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MrMontella:
the bible is a collection of human written books.

Is it not the same human written books u have been reading? Dis ur belief in non existence of God is it not influenced by the so called logical and intellectual works of mere men like u that gave u d conviction?

Man was born with zero sin; except you believe in reincarnation.

ntbeatz:
seun why is it easy for Atheists and Muslims to access Christian threads and spill gibberish here? I don't see that on Islamic threads.

If you're not a Muslim, you can't enter their threads, why does anything go on christian threads?

answers please.

Seun will not answer you...he owns this forum, he can do whatever he likes. More over the mod in that section has brain more than that of this Christian section and Seun dares not mess with the Muslim section, he will not want to risk the possibility of suicide bombers or beheaders at his door step.
And finally seun is not really an atheist, he would have treated both religious section equally if he is. Seun is simply antichrist, anti christian anti bible, anti-anything that smells like the gospel.

I don't really blame him, he's probably a infotech guru that views everything from the logical point of view...we all know the Gospel isn't really strolling on the lane of the logical mind.

MrMontella:
go and learn what a TRUE SACRIFICE is/means.

What is a true sacrifice to u? As a good parent, will u tell ur child that he or she has the freedom to do any wrongdoings,that they already got ur forgiveness? Jesus paid the sacrifice knowing fully well that as humans we r bound in sin, buh that those who will recognise their limitations and allow him to lead their lives, already got forgiven their past demeanors!

Elliot2:
What is a true sacrifice to u? As a good parent, will u tell ur child that he or she has the freedom to do any wrongdoings,that they already got ur forgiveness? Jesus paid the sacrifice knowing fully well that as humans we r bound in sin, buh that those who will recognise their limitations and allow him to lead their lives, already got forgiven their past demeanors!

please what are you saying?

MrMontella:
gravity, All things in space spin ,/spin on their axis.
gravity conserves the momentum by revolving the earth around a larger body with a greater pull of gravity.

it's easier fpr u to say gravity,like u gave it d task to do wat it does

MrMontella:
that is not evolution..
go and verify what evolution is

Human evolution . Human evolution is the lengthy process of change by which people originated from apelike ancestors. ... Humans and the great apes (large apes) of Africa -- chimpanzees (including bonobos, or so-called “pygmy chimpanzees”) and gorillas -- share a common ancestor that lived between 8 and 6 million years ago.
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that is from Google, I know what am saying

nanizle:
"different versions of a product exist" This is the first time I am hearing this line of argument

I'd like to understand you better. Are you implying that the various religions we have are just different fake versions of one original version?

when the children of Israel lost patience to wait for Moses and went about making the golden calf to worship, it was the same concept-they needed someone to save and lead them! The very essence of believing in god or not is the same-everyone wants their fears removed.

Elliot2:
Is it not the same human written books u have been reading? Dis ur belief in non existence of God is it not influenced by the so called logical and intellectual works of mere men like u that gave u d conviction?

I believe in God...just not your god.
logic supersedes books bro.

walls01:
organism are believed to have developed from earlier forms during the history of the earth.
2. the gradual development of something.


What is evolution ? | Facts | yourgenome.org
www​.yourgenome.org/.../ what-is-evoluti ...
In biology, evolution is the change in the characteristics of a species over several generations and relies on the process of natural selection. The theory of evolution is based on the idea that all species? are related and gradually change over time.


this is from Google, I know what am saying

please bring the evolutionary website that said apes turned into humans

walls01:
not like humans. this things they do are already programmed, they repeat the same thing over and over again. the ape do not show any knowledge if not he would have improved on his tool
dogs know when they do wrong but man commit evil

lol what are you saying?
how can you be directly comparing 1 to 10, apples to oranges

MrMontella:
please bring the evolutionary website that said apes turned into humans

Human evolution . Human evolution is the lengthy process of change by which people originated from apelike ancestors. ... Humans and the great apes (large apes) of Africa -- chimpanzees (including bonobos, or so-called “pygmy chimpanzees”) and gorillas -- share a common ancestor that lived between 8 and 6 million years ago.
Introduction to Human Evolution - Smithsonian's
Human Origins
humanorigins .si.edu/.../introduction- hum...
Introduction to Human Evolution - Smithsonian's
Human Origins
humanorigins .si.edu/.../introduction- hum...
Human evolution . Human evolution is the lengthy process of change by which people originated from apelike ancestors. ... Humans and the great apes (large apes) of Africa -- chimpanzees (including bonobos, or so-called “pygmy chimpanzees”) and gorillas -- share a common ancestor that lived between 8 and 6 million years ago.

MrMontella:
please bring the evolutionary website that said apes turned into humans

.

go to Google and type how human originated according to evolution

Because horus was immaculately conceived by isis in ancient Egyptian mythology thousands of years before the emergence of Christianity.

All the bible scholars did was copied the stories of ancient mythologies that existed way before them in different evolving cultures of old to make up myths that still fools present day deluded,dysfunctional and,irrational africans.

MrMontella:
lol what are you saying?
how can you be directly comparing 1 to 10, apples to oranges

what I am trying to say is, humans possess a kind of knowledge never found in any animal.
evolution has never address this not even ones

Elliot2:
it's easier fpr u to say gravity,like u gave it d task to do wat it does

what do you mean easier?
it's the simple truth Na.

it's a force ooo.. not a being or spirit as per; task.

walls01:
Human evolution . Human evolution is the lengthy process of change by which people originated from apelike ancestors. ... Humans and the great apes (large apes) of Africa -- chimpanzees (including bonobos, or so-called “pygmy chimpanzees”) and gorillas -- share a common ancestor that lived between 8 and 6 million years ago.
I
that is from Google, I know what am saying

look at the bolded words carefully,
do they mean the same thing with :

"humans evolved from apes"?
obviously not.

MrMontella:
look at the bolded words carefully,
do they mean the same thing with :

"humans evolved from apes"?
obviously not.

when I watch the documentary of the gradual evolution from this apelike animals, they classify them as ape. this animals are no where to be found. in fact no transformation of one animal to another has ever been documented or found

MrMontella:
what do you mean easier?
it's the simple truth Na.

it's a force ooo.. not a being or spirit as per; task.

looks like i am chatting with gravitational voice, or could u please convince me u are human n not some force,cos i find it hard believing the former since i can't see,feel,or touch u?

MrMontella:
I believe in God...just not your god.
logic supersedes books bro.

lol. if only ur belief system is determined solely by ur observed facts! i fit bet sey ur faith now was influenced 99% by others and not ur logic! truth is, u r brainwashed, likewise me.

Elliot2:
u r talking about indoctrination as if u r left alone, r u not also brainwashed to believe that there is no God? Is ur conviction not borne out of what u read from others,or u mean to tell me that they are solely a result of your experiences? Don't ever think that your resolution not to believe in God makes u more intelligent than those who do! Mind you, your entire knowledge about d universe is only but a tire grain of sand in d beach of sands, so don't get yourself too excited!

Where did I say that there's no God?

There may or may not be one. I choose to live my life regardless of whether God exists or not. But as for religion as we know it, all na scam.

I don't believe that I'm more intelligent than believers. But I do believe that believers should try and reason more rather than swallow all they read or everything they are told hook, line and sinker.

Of course the human knowledge base is still quite small but we are getting there. That's why we have science.

Please wake up from your slumber

walls01:
but this instructions is not to destroy.
Jesus said love your neugbour as your self he did not say your religion
men are acting on their free will. I speak about the bible, Christans and pastors are not doing what Jesus said

Should I start quoting bible verses where Jesus or God sanctions violence? or should I remind you of the numerous genocides committed by the biblical God?

Any religion that promises death, destruction, eternal damnation for non-believers should not be classified as a peaceful religion.

and you can't really have free will if you believe in God.

The bible teaches that there's no free will!

palsenator:
To all believers, this OP is confused and manipulative... He didn't talk about the war that Horus fought and Jesus never fought a war. Ask this idiot the source of his write up and he will say the book of the dead. It will interest you to know that there is no book as the book of the dead. Just collections that were never made a book. Osiris the father of Horus was killed by Seth his enemy whereas Joseph was never recorded to be killed. There was no Anup the baptizer in Egypt Mythology. He just read without facts to prove that the lies are true. The ritual he was talking about was performed by the gods on Horus which means it was a spiritual and never happened in reality whereas for Christ, it not by the gods or God. This Op has watched Zeitgeist and he is delusional. Am waiting for his reply so I can open. his eyes to the truth. My fellow Christians, we have the honour to have Jesus as our lord and that is the hatred they have now doing everything to be like them. In Christ Jesus we believe.

now carefully read where d OP started and stopped and where an atheist started his comments. u called me an idiot, its ok no qualms

If your wife come and tell you "I got pregnant by the holly ghost", will you believe her?

alBHAGDADI:
Nice write up

If Christ was born of a virgin, where did he get his blood from?


The Islamic faith claims to believe in Yahshua whom they also say they love, but they strongly protest against any believe that says he is the Son of God cos they believe God has no wife for him to even have a son. In doing this they weaken God, cos why would anyone believe that a God who created heaven and earth and made Adam from dust would still lack the power to have a son without a wife? Well, that's not the point of this discuss.

Their Quran scriptures, which they say is directly from God, speaks of the miraculous conception of Yahshua. Pls read below.

Quran 19:20-21

She said: “How can I have a son when no man has touched me, neither have I been unchaste?” (19.20)

He said: “Thus Your Lord has said: ‘It is easy for Me. And so that We may make of him a sign for people and a mercy from Us, and it is a matter that has been ordained.’” (19.21)

From the above Quran passage, we can see that Christ was not a product of a sperm from a man. His conception was divine. Now, be patient a little as I go into brief science. It is an established fact that a man's sperm is what fertilizes a woman's egg to form a baby. That sperm develops and has its own BLOOD, provided by the father, which means that it doesn't get blood from its mother, only oxygen and nutrition.

In the case of Yahshua, who was not a product of a man's sperm fertilizing an egg, as established by the Holy Bible and the Quran, we all have the right to ask where his blood came from. If his conception was a miracle by God, as confirmed by the Bible and Quran, then it means that his blood must have come from the same God. If God is the provider of that blood, then it means that Yahshua the Messiah is the Son of the Almighty God. This also means that he didn't inherit any of the contaminated blood of sinful Adam. This is a huge reason why his blood is precious and redemptive, redeeming mankind from sin and death.

So, before Muslims go about telling us that Christ is not the son of God, they should tell us how he got his blood since they also believe he was conceived without sexual intercourse or a man's sperm involved.

So in summary, you mean your god used his sperm
You wee also tell us whose blood or sperm was used for Adam

This is wat we call a big Fallacy, pls how can Paul opinion be follow and he never Saw jesus he claim .the guy paul apostle as used is opinion by writting unwanted books to destroy the beautiful teaching of Jesus christ.

NamieNamie:
What make you say God is good when he is revengeful, full of hate and wants you to burn in hell for not believing in him? God is hate.

On the contrary, God made a plan for you to escape the result of the sinful nature you inherited by birth by making it so simple. So simple even religious folks can't understand it. Simply confess with your mouth and believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is Lord, and pronto...you are saved. Saved from Hell. God never created hell for humans. Its the same devil who is hardening your heart that wants you to accompany him there. Refuse to follow him by accepting the FREE GIFT OF GOD Now!. And its so simple. Just say 'Jesus Christ is my Lord and Personal Saviour' and BELIEVE it in your heart. eg mean it when you say it. You will experience the unsearchable, endless, pure, super, amazing, fantastic Love of God that passes all understanding. And your life will automatically become so sweet and pleasant and peaceful. I did it a long time ago and I am still enjoying the peace and prosperity and of course, the escape from hell is certain. Join me in enjoying Christ.

alBHAGDADI:
Nice write up

If Christ was born of a virgin, where did he get his blood from?


The Islamic faith claims to believe in Yahshua whom they also say they love, but they strongly protest against any believe that says he is the Son of God cos they believe God has no wife for him to even have a son. In doing this they weaken God, cos why would anyone believe that a God who created heaven and earth and made Adam from dust would still lack the power to have a son without a wife? Well, that's not the point of this discuss.

Their Quran scriptures, which they say is directly from God, speaks of the miraculous conception of Yahshua. Pls read below.

Quran 19:20-21

She said: “How can I have a son when no man has touched me, neither have I been unchaste?” (19.20)

He said: “Thus Your Lord has said: ‘It is easy for Me. And so that We may make of him a sign for people and a mercy from Us, and it is a matter that has been ordained.’” (19.21)

From the above Quran passage, we can see that Christ was not a product of a sperm from a man. His conception was divine. Now, be patient a little as I go into brief science. It is an established fact that a man's sperm is what fertilizes a woman's egg to form a baby. That sperm develops and has its own BLOOD, provided by the father, which means that it doesn't get blood from its mother, only oxygen and nutrition.

In the case of Yahshua, who was not a product of a man's sperm fertilizing an egg, as established by the Holy Bible and the Quran, we all have the right to ask where his blood came from. If his conception was a miracle by God, as confirmed by the Bible and Quran, then it means that his blood must have come from the same God. If God is the provider of that blood, then it means that Yahshua the Messiah is the Son of the Almighty God. This also means that he didn't inherit any of the contaminated blood of sinful Adam. This is a huge reason why his blood is precious and redemptive, redeeming mankind from sin and death.

So, before Muslims go about telling us that Christ is not the son of God, they should tell us how he got his blood since they also believe he was conceived without sexual intercourse or a man's sperm involved.

And you think God is not powerful enough to even make mary conceive without any blood? ?
How do you even know that God has blood?? Blasphemy.

MrMontella:
if Jesus came as a final and perfect sacrifice for sin, and yet after his sacrifice, sin still is in abundance and relative to punishment, then he failed woefully

Hahaha

bravo, bravo at least nw I know am not alone in this Sunday school story trash.