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Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by menxer: 11:00am On Mar 12, 2017
PapaBrowne:
They don't have to move their headquarters if they don't want to.

The states in question should come up with a tax called Offshore Headquarters Tax.

So a simple law is enacted that says if you are an extractive company, you should have your headquarters located at least 200km from your highest concentration of extractive activity.

Now if you don't want to comply, it isn't a crime. You just have to pay the Offshore Headquarters Tax which should be minimum 20% of profits from extractive activity.
A very tactically apt solution.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by tinkinjow: 11:02am On Mar 12, 2017
Mobil must relocate to Akwa Ibom State full stop. No analysis needed.
If i was the state governor by now i would hv through the state house of assembly imposed a tax that'll force them down to the state.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by ransomed: 11:05am On Mar 12, 2017
Any oil company that hesitates to relocate to Niger Delta region should be Nationalized and taken over by NNPC. They treat us with disdain in their country of origin and want to lord over us in our land. They should be directed to cease all operations asap. and get out of Nigeria afterall, Trump does not want us in his country.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by AZeD1(m): 11:17am On Mar 12, 2017
PapaBrowne:
No sir. The term Headquarters has a definition.
Head- The bosses as in C-Suite
Quarters- base

Basically means where the Ogas-at-the-top are based. Everything revolves around the Heads. Financial decision making. Contract disbursement. Top management employment. Etc.

I was in Forcados 3 years ago. Shell has its supposed largest operation there. The terminal overseas most of Shell's export running into millions of USD daily. It even has an airport on site.

You know what, Shell had barely 20 workers there with the remaining over 500 being contract workers.
The bosses visit like once in 3 years kind of thing.
While it's OK for companies to make their decisions (I am very much for liberty of private enterprise) I think laws should be made to guide especially extractive organizations towards supporting communities in which they operate.
The Shell example should tell you that you can't force them anywhere. Up until 2016, Shell did not have an office in Lagos.
The question you should be asking is why don't they want to move there?

You can force a horse to the stream but you can't force it to drink water.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by kpacity(m): 11:17am On Mar 12, 2017
[quote author=DMeanMan post=54504311]The oil producing communities have this over demanding mentality. Always thinking they're entitled to everything. Always coming with rediculous demands and expectations, and once they're not met they resort to violence. Forget the Oil, no one wants to do business in those conditions.

The Local Chiefs' still ask for Cows (and some other rediculous things to celebrate Christmas and New Year) from companies in Trans Amadi, PH. Common! It's 2017 guys.

The other day I was listening to the radio, a community head was ranting on Radio about how he was not consulted when RSUST compensated the family of 16 year old that died when one of its telecom mast fell. The slowppoke didn't even at anytime show any remorse or regard for the girl that died. Didn't at anytime criticise the School for allowing such to happen. He was bitter because the compensation was small and he wasn't consulted.

You guys should chill out and take a cue from Lagos. Take seriously the people you choose to represent you and be sure their views and opinion about issues aligns with what you have in mind.


U are the bigest fool i hv ever seen on the planet earth. Must u comment on every post? If ur community hv oil yet the pple does not feel the positive impact on the indigen. How wll u feel. Or is it paining u dat ur community do nt hv oil. Then go and hug any available Transformer around ur visinity
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Nobody: 11:28am On Mar 12, 2017
It's simple... have 2 headquaters
1. Operational HQ- the ND states
2. Administrative HQ- Lagos
Well, who can we blame If not the leaders of the NDelatans. Why is there no international airport in the south south, where are the ports not functioning as they ought to? These are factors to consider for a giant oil and gas business.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Nackzy: 11:49am On Mar 12, 2017
The problem is the govt... I wish they can jst tell them to leave Nigeria completely...i swear we are not getting anything from mobil, nepotism n favouritism is dia watch word ...am a geologist...nothing Good has ever come out from Mobil.only God will judge them
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by hatchy: 11:58am On Mar 12, 2017
Ademat7:
3,5,6,7,8 is absent in AKS in the real sense of it: hv u been to Lagos? I served in AKS
You are suffering from delusional idiosyncracy.

Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Kirigidi(m): 12:13pm On Mar 12, 2017
oduastates:
What were they thinking?
Factors important to businessee

1 Security
2 Transportation infrastructure
3 Human resources and professional services
4 Schools for staff children
5 Leisure and entertainment
6 Housing and Hotels
7 Consulars services
8 commercial Hubs


It is for these reason and many more that investment banks and the media are based in New York and not Alabama or Kentucky.

How many oil firms in texas is HQed in New York.

Austin ,Houston and Dallas are world class cities and they are easily accessible. Lagos is the closest to that level and with Ghana,Benin ,Togo, and ivory coast within 500 miles , they can easily access more opportunities and control assets from one central position . They can use the Accra airport ,they can chill on the beach in Lome etc .Oil companies in Texas do not have to site corporate headquarters in New york for the reasons I have listed. The same reason silicon valley is on the outskirts of San Francisco (another world class city)
You are just been sentimental because the present settings favour you Yoruba people. Thank GOD you mentioned that most of the oil companies in the USA have their headquarters in Texas [an oil producing state] and not New York [a non-oil producing state]. aren't you contradicting yourself? Texas is the most important oil producing region in the United States just as the Niger-Delta is the most important oil bearing region in Nigeria, and it's therefore economically and socially wise to located their headquarters in Texas rather than New York which is a non oil producing region. New York is a non-oil producing state just like Lagos, and it's therefore not economically and morally justifiable for the American oil multinationals to take their headquarters to New York when the oil fields are in Texas. Furthermore you listed some factors important for their business/ operations to thrive, i.e. security, transportation, housing, leisure, e.t.c., which according to your insinuation are absent in the Niger-Delta, yet the oil multi-nationals have refused to close down production and quit the Niger-Delta region and move their drilling tools to Yorubaland which you claim is more business friendly. In summary, if they say the Niger Delta region is not conducive for siting their headquarters then the region is not also conducive for their extraction of our oil wealth. Period!
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Bizibi(m): 12:32pm On Mar 12, 2017
PapaBrowne:
They don't have to move their headquarters if they don't want to.

The states in question should come up with a tax called Offshore Headquarters Tax.

So a simple law is enacted that says if you are an extractive company, you should have your headquarters located at least 200km from your highest concentration of extractive activity.

Now if you don't want to comply, it isn't a crime. You just have to pay the Offshore Headquarters Tax which should be minimum 20% of profits from extractive activity.
gbam,
If u are an aka ibom person here,suggest this to the gov.....infact 20% is too little sef
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by evexx1(f): 12:32pm On Mar 12, 2017
Kingspin:
Boring excuses. Relocate or the government should impose heavy tax on you. Like what president Trump is doing to companies that want to relocate from US.
Well said!
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Nobody: 12:37pm On Mar 12, 2017
PapaBrowne:
They don't have to move their headquarters if they don't want to.

The states in question should come up with a tax called Offshore Headquarters Tax.

So a simple law is enacted that says if you are an extractive company, you should have your headquarters located at least 200km from your highest concentration of extractive activity.

Now if you don't want to comply, it isn't a crime. You just have to pay the Offshore Headquarters Tax which should be minimum 20% of profits from extractive activity.
With this type of comment I have renewed hope on the intelligence of Nigerians and some persons on Nairaland. You'll go places with this type of IQ..
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by akoko11:
These are just excuses, pls relocate to Niger Delta, it's time to dev the ND, if you can't relocate to ibom, then u can't drill their oil. All these nonsense been condole by our fathers won't be accepted by us. Let the delta gas city, deep water port and petrochemical & fertilizer began now now. All the oil companies must relocate their hqs to Niger Delta it's time to decongest Lagos State.

Long live Delta State!
Long live Niger Delta!!
Long live fiscal federalism of Nigeria
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Nobody: 1:39pm On Mar 12, 2017
NormalCodes:
Akwa Ibom has at least 5 of these things in place......
Point of correction Sir, Akwa Ibom states has all those things he mentioned and many more
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by SuperS1Panther: 1:45pm On Mar 12, 2017
PapaBrowne:
They don't have to move their headquarters if they don't want to.

The states in question should come up with a tax called Offshore Headquarters Tax.

So a simple law is enacted that says if you are an extractive company, you should have your headquarters located at least 200km from your highest concentration of extractive activity.

Now if you don't want to comply, it isn't a crime. You just have to pay the Offshore Headquarters Tax which should be minimum 20% of profits from extractive activity.
h

The tax cannot work in this instance because the land and the resources therein belong to Federal Govt. It is beyond the jurisdiction of the state because states have areas of exclusive right which they can pass law on a stated in the constitution.

The tax law will be dead on arrival.

How will it pass through the National Assembly when the PIB with all its benefits to the nation is still in someone's drawer.

If it gets to the National Assembly, the oil giants will settle the legislooters and promise Employment for one kid per law maker. That is the end.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by inforesource: 1:47pm On Mar 12, 2017
Put this in formal writing to AKS govt and you will be applaud by it. What a thoughtful comment you made there. Keep it up!
PapaBrowne:
They don't have to move their headquarters if they don't want to.

The states in question should come up with a tax called Offshore Headquarters Tax.

So a simple law is enacted that says if you are an extractive company, you should have your headquarters located at least 200km from your highest concentration of extractive activity.

Now if you don't want to comply, it isn't a crime. You just have to pay the Offshore Headquarters Tax which should be minimum 20% of profits from extractive activity.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Nobody: 1:51pm On Mar 12, 2017
AZeD1:
The Shell example should tell you that you can't force them anywhere. Up until 2016, Shell did not have an office in Lagos.
The question you should be asking is why don't they want to move there?

You can force a horse to the stream but you can't force it to drink water.
At boldened, who is telling you all these plenty nonsense?
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Gucciboss: 1:55pm On Mar 12, 2017
Old news republish by Sahara lies.
Why can't Nigerians take time to read for once?
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by emmykk(m): 1:57pm On Mar 12, 2017
Ademat7:
3,5,6,7,8 is absent in AKS in the real sense of it: hv u been to Lagos? I served in AKS
You did not go to school in the first place,otherwise you will not be ranting.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Nobody: 1:57pm On Mar 12, 2017
SuperS1Panther:
NLNG is in Bonny, Warri and Lagos.

Shell is in PH and Lagos.

Total is in PH and Lagos.

Agip is in PH and Lagos

Mobil is in Eket and Lagos

That says something -- Lagos is commercial hub that cannot be ignored.

All transactions in this country and major transactions in West Africa passes through Lagos.

With or without the oil companies, Lagos will always be. What is th population of oil worker residing in Lagos? What is their impact an contribution to Lagos?
Ignorance Bro, with all due respect.
Please conduct a research regarding the boldened
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Gucciboss: 1:58pm On Mar 12, 2017
majekdom2:
It's simple... have 2 headquaters
1. Operational HQ- the ND states
2. Administrative HQ- Lagos
Well, who can we blame If not the leaders of the NDelatans. Why is there no international airport in the south south, where are the ports not functioning as they ought to? These are factors to consider for a giant oil and gas business.
There is an international airport in portharcourt
Liars are liable to die young

Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by SuperS1Panther: 1:59pm On Mar 12, 2017
Gabbysky:
Ignorance Bro, with all due respect.
Please conduct a research regarding the boldened
Funny you.

Tell us the impact. Is it difficult for you. Just tell us.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by ubyways(m): 2:15pm On Mar 12, 2017
SuperS1Panther:
h

The tax cannot work in this instance because the land and the resources therein belong to Federal Govt.

The tax law will be dead on arrival.
sir, u re wrong in ur assertion. In true fiscal federalism, each states control and manage the proceeds from her natural resources and remit a certain % to the federal unit not the other way. Recently Governor Fayose enacted law that is against indiscriminate grazing and there are some cases which defaulters has been apprehended. what explanation can u give to this? let us learn how do things right. If Akwa Ibom is conducive for oil drilling, then what stop mobil headquarter not to be cited in the state.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by fliXzz(m): 2:38pm On Mar 12, 2017
Ademat7:
3,5,6,7,8 is absent in AKS in the real sense of it: hv u been to Lagos? I served in AKS
How does development get to cities?
How else will these things you said aren't available start being available if not through means as this ?
Move Mobil HQ to Akwa Ibom , and you will see the level of transformation that it will bring about in a state within a short period of time.

Enough of the over-concentration on one state. Let the growth and development spread through taking advantage as 'little' opportunities as this.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Guyman02: 2:46pm On Mar 12, 2017
There excuses are now obsolete, hand out the oil blocks to Chinese and Russian firms and see them build world class HQs in the Niger Delta.
These Westerners should understand that Igbos have opened the eyes of Niger Delta through IPOB radio and campaigns.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Guyman02: 2:48pm On Mar 12, 2017
PapaBrowne:
They don't have to move their headquarters if they don't want to.

The states in question should come up with a tax called Offshore Headquarters Tax.

So a simple law is enacted that says if you are an extractive company, you should have your headquarters located at least 200km from your highest concentration of extractive activity.

Now if you don't want to comply, it isn't a crime. You just have to pay the Offshore Headquarters Tax which should be minimum 20% of profits from extractive activity.
You need to patent this idea. Very sound and it made my day. Thanks for sharing
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Nobody:
Gabbysky:
Point of correction Sir, Akwa Ibom states has all those things he mentioned and many more
That is why I said at least, and oh, some of them are minimally available.

I know cos I live in one of the highly posh areas in Uyo, and know Uyo very well too.

What I like about moving the HQ to Aka is that these services will be in demand, and people will go into making them available.

Case will be solved, simple.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by oduastates: 2:50pm On Mar 12, 2017
Kirigidi:
You are just been sentimental because the present settings favour you Yoruba people. Thank GOD you mentioned that most of the oil companies in the USA have their headquarters in Texas [an oil producing state] and not New York [a non-oil producing state]. aren't you contradicting yourself? Texas is the most important oil producing region in the United States just as the Niger-Delta is the most important oil bearing region in Nigeria, and it's therefore economically and socially wise to located their headquarters in Texas rather than New York which is a non oil producing region. New York is a non-oil producing state just like Lagos, and it's therefore not economically and morally justifiable for the American oil multinationals to take their headquarters to New York when the oil fields are in Texas. Furthermore you listed some factors important for their business/ operations to thrive, i.e. security, transportation, housing, leisure, e.t.c., which according to your insinuation are absent in the Niger-Delta, yet the oil multi-nationals have refused to close down production and quit the Niger-Delta region and move their drilling tools to Yorubaland which you claim is more business friendly. In summary, if they say the Niger Delta region is not conducive for siting their headquarters then the region is not also conducive for their extraction of our oil wealth. Period!
How does it favour me or the SW ?
Mobil has had an head office selling their products in yorubaland before 1 drop of oil was exported from Nigeria .Engine oil , grease , petrol stations etc.
Every town had at least one of each of texaco , Agip, mobile , BP, Shell outlets. Many had multiples . In fact , there were no independent marketers.
Today, they still sell branded products across Africa beyond pumping oil from the Niger delta .
The total number of shell's full time employees ( expartriate and Nigerians) in Nigeria is less than 6000.
Most of them are in the Niger delta.
The businees will always make lbusiness decision about operations .
All it takes them to move their entire business out of Nigeria is a click of a mouse .
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by SuperS1Panther: 2:53pm On Mar 12, 2017
ubyways:
sir, u re wrong in ur assertion. In true fiscal federalism, each states control and manage the proceeds from her natural resources and remit a certain % to the federal unit not the other way. Recently Governor Fayose enacted law that is against indiscriminate grazing and there are some cases which defaulters has been apprehended. what explanation can u give to this? let us learn how do things right. If Akwa Ibom is conducive for oil drilling, then what stop mobil headquarter not to be cited in the state.
Are you practising true fiscal federalism in Nigeria or Unitarism?

Is the law enacted by Fayose on natural resources?

Oga read up, I can't wait my time on shallow comments such as this.
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