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Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by samofson: 3:06pm On Mar 12, 2017
PapaBrowne:
They don't have to move their headquarters if they don't want to.

The states in question should come up with a tax called Offshore Headquarters Tax.

So a simple law is enacted that says if you are an extractive company, you should have your headquarters located at least 200km from your highest concentration of extractive activity.

Now if you don't want to comply, it isn't a crime. You just have to pay the Offshore Headquarters Tax which should be minimum 20% of profits from extractive activity.
The best answer ever ...out of the box thinking !!!!!!!nice one brother !! How is wish I could give more than 1 like
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Nobody: 3:11pm On Mar 12, 2017
Gucciboss:
There is an international airport in portharcourt
Liars are liable to die young
have you bothered to ask yourself how many international flights on board from there? The Airport that uses Tarpaulin . Oga, many things one would expect in the ND are not there. I say it over and over ND should be Abhudabi of Nigeria. It's not about FG now, it's more of the leaders that these states have produced.

Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by ApexTitan(m): 3:14pm On Mar 12, 2017
Gabbysky:
At boldened, who is telling you all these plenty nonsense?
Maybe he/she meant to type something else. Or maybe he/she completely ignorant. cheesy
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by ApexTitan(m): 3:20pm On Mar 12, 2017
Guyman02:
There excuses are now obsolete, hand out the oil blocks to Chinese and Russian firms and see them build world class HQs in the Niger Delta.
These Westerners should understand that Igbos have opened the eyes of Niger Delta through IPOB radio and campaigns.
Where does this faith in the Russians and Chinese come from? What makes you think they will be more generous in a profit-driven venture than Westerners? Have you any examples of this anywhere in the world?
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by EternalTruth: 3:33pm On Mar 12, 2017
Ademat7:
3,5,6,7,8 is absent in AKS in the real sense of it: hv u been to Lagos? I served in AKS
u served in aks and yet u say aks lacks 35678?
oh jeez u never served in aks pls stop day dreaming.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by EternalTruth: 3:35pm On Mar 12, 2017
gameboyo:
U served in aks but knows nothing about it. Stop exposing your ignorance status here. I'm from aks and I don't see any of the above listed not presence in d state
the guy is just plain dumb.

I've quoted him. it's apparent he was serving in aks in his fantasy world.
.imagine? akwa ibom lacks professionals, hotels, tourism and even commercial hub??
the guy is just dumb
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by EternalTruth: 3:37pm On Mar 12, 2017
koma1:
If FG want all oil companies to move their headquarters to Niger Delta then they should start by moving NNPC first.
exactly
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Codes151(m): 3:49pm On Mar 12, 2017
Ademat7:
3,5,6,7,8 is absent in AKS in the real sense of it: hv u been to Lagos? I served in AKS
you are a cow! To think being posted to a one local school in one remote village gives u the accurate knowledge to have a say about issues pertaining to a state that you haven't actually lived in! Na person like u be the real otondo
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by aribisala0(m): 3:52pm On Mar 12, 2017
PapaBrowne:
They don't have to move their headquarters if they don't want to.

The states in question should come up with a tax called Offshore Headquarters Tax.

So a simple law is enacted that says if you are an extractive company, you should have your headquarters located at least 200km from your highest concentration of extractive activity.

Now if you don't want to comply, it isn't a crime. You just have to pay the Offshore Headquarters Tax which should be minimum 20% of profits from extractive activity.
There is one thing I have observed,the truth is often a secret and when you publish it people ignore it because they don't like it.

It is a myth that somehow the Location of company Headquarters means great revenues to those hosting the headquarters.

It means some revenue ,to be fair ,but what exactly.?

State governments are entitled to income tax/PAYE deductions. They cannot tax the company on its profits onl the FG can.

So in a copany like Shell e.g what percentage of its staff are based in Headquarters and what percentage in the field.

Under the present rules it is the Personal Income tax that will accrue and NOT copany tax.

Let e introduce another FACT

PAYE is deducted at source and is perhaps, the most unavoidable tax.It has been paid forever.

In 1999 when Tinubu took over as Governor in Lagos State IGR which included these PAYE and everty other tax was 500 million a month. Today it is 20 billion. Where did the difference come from? Oil comanies? No!! They were already in the net.

If the argument is for a greater share of oil revenues fine but it has very little to do with Oil company headquarters location. One must always match the right argument to the right problem.
Governent is responsible to people and not companies. I am all for increased revenue to oil producing communities buut that has absolutely nothing to do with this
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Gucciboss: 4:00pm On Mar 12, 2017
majekdom2:
have you bothered to ask yourself how many international flights on board from there? The Airport that uses Tarpaulin . Oga, many things one would expect in the ND are not there. I say it over and over ND should be Abhudabi of Nigeria. It's not about FG now, it's more of the leaders that these states have produced.
Shatap grin
Who is responsible for the Airport, state government or FG?

So the Governors should construct East - West, while the FG handle Lagos - Ibandan express way with over 50 billion abi

So your states produce good leaders and you are still in darkness for over 50 years abi grin
Your states produce good leaders and your people are dying to get UK visa.
Nigerians sha
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by COMPAQ(m): 4:08pm On Mar 12, 2017
fliXzz:
How does development get to cities?
How else will these things you said aren't available start being available if not through means as this ?
Move Mobil HQ to Akwa Ibom , and you will see the level of transformation that it will bring about in a state within a short period of time.

Enough of the over-concentration on one state. Let the growth and development spread through taking 0advantage as 'little' opportunities as this.
Not quite sure what magic develolment you think it will bring! Already like half of Mobil staff (if not more) are based in eket. What magic will the other half bring. SPDC is headquartered in PH. What fantastic change did it bring? Is there anything fantastic about Port Harcourt? She'll had only operations in Warri, before they sold their OML's there and Warri is now a shadow of itself. Just to let you know that even without having HQ in Warri and only operational base, Shell was making an impact in Warri. Maybe more useful to ask for proper accountability for the states of the Niger Delta, from NDDC etc. We Nigerians find it easy to go and protest in front of shell gate, but will never go and protest at government house. Poverty mentality! No disrespect to the people of the ND, but the mentality and reasoning faculty of the average ND is pretty poor. Too much entitlement mentality like someone said before. Which is why cult killings, kidnapping etc thrice so much in these areas. Which oil company would want to come to such a place that isn't safe. And coming here won't change much cos the oil companies cannot employ beyond what they need. Even if every single shell staff is from ND, highest that's 2500 people. What of the other millions from ND?
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Emmalondon: 4:11pm On Mar 12, 2017
Ademat7:
3,5,6,7,8 is absent in AKS in the real sense of it: hv u been to Lagos? I served in AKS
When you say things you are not sure about it makes you sound stupid. How can you say that 3,5,6,7,8 is absent in AKS in the real sense of it. You said you served in akwa ibom but it is very obvious that you know nothing about AKS.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Nobody: 4:20pm On Mar 12, 2017
Ademat7:
3,5,6,7,8 is absent in AKS in the real sense of it: hv u been to Lagos? I served in AKS
UR COMMENT ARE FLAWED, I DONT THINK YOU MOVED AROUND AKWA IBOM DURING UR STAY THERE.
EXCEPT FOR ITEM-7 (CONSULAR OFFICE) WHICH IS NOT CRITICAL FOR THEIR OPERATION WITHIN AKWA IBOM, EVERY OTHER ITEM IS AVAILABLE IN ABUNDANCE WITHIN THE STATE.
IS LAGOS STATE MORE SAFE OR SERENE THAN AKWA IBOM WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC AND SECURITY ISSUES IN LEKKI.?
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Nobody: 4:20pm On Mar 12, 2017
Gucciboss:
Shatap grin
Who is responsible for the Airport, state government or FG?

So the Governors should construct East - West, while the FG handle Lagos - Ibandan express way with over 50 billion abi

So your states produce good leaders and you are still in darkness for over 50 years abi grin
Your states produce good leaders and your people are dying to get UK visa.
Nigerians sha
Some of these monikers on Nairaland are run by kids still eating "mummy tank you". They don't know the reality of life
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by sundid(m): 4:25pm On Mar 12, 2017
It is high time the concentration of industries in Lagos state needs reconsideration. Mostly, the multinationals that have their operation in a place, and office differently. The issue of developing the community would be urgently tackled, cos the restiveness from youths would be paramount in their mind if Head quarter are sited in their state of operation.The banks on their part have been faced with several closure from various state govt on issue bordering on remittance of taxes to the state govt. Whereas taxes deducted from staff salary from other states are always remitted to state where they have their Headquarter, mostly Lagos state.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by laudate: 4:26pm On Mar 12, 2017
aribisala0:
There is one thing I have observed,the truth is often a secret and when you publish it people ignore it because they don't like it.

It is a myth that somehow the Location of company Headquarters means great revenues to those hosting the headquarters.

It means some revenue ,to be fair ,but what exactly.?

State governments are entitled to income tax/PAYE deductions. They cannot tax the company on its profits onl the FG can.

So in a copany like Shell e.g what percentage of its staff are based in Headquarters and what percentage in the field.

Under the present rules it is the Personal Income tax that will accrue and NOT copany tax.

Let e introduce another FACT

PAYE is deducted at source and is perhaps, the most unavoidable tax.It has been paid forever.

In 1999 when Tinubu took over as Governor in Lagos State IGR which included these PAYE and everty other tax was 500 million a month. Today it is 20 billion. Where did the difference come from? Oil comanies? No!! They were already in the net.

If the argument is for a greater share of oil revenues fine but it has very little to do with Oil company headquarters location. One must always match the right argument to the right problem.
Governent is responsible to people and not companies. I am all for increased revenue to oil producing communities buut that has absolutely nothing to do with this
Hmmn...good point!! wink
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by laudate: 4:29pm On Mar 12, 2017
COMPAQ:
Not quite sure what magic develolment you think it will bring! Already like half of Mobil staff (if not more) are based in eket. What magic will the other half bring. SPDC is headquartered in PH. What fantastic change did it bring? Is there anything fantastic about Port Harcourt? She'll had only operations in Warri, before they sold their OML's there and Warri is now a shadow of itself. Just to let you know that even without having HQ in Warri and only operational base, Shell was making an impact in Warri. Maybe more useful to ask for proper accountability for the states of the Niger Delta, from NDDC etc. We Nigerians find it easy to go and protest in front of shell gate, but will never go and protest at government house. Poverty mentality! No disrespect to the people of the ND, but the mentality and reasoning faculty of the average ND is pretty poor. Too much entitlement mentality like someone said before. Which is why cult killings, kidnapping etc thrice so much in these areas. Which oil company would want to come to such a place that isn't safe. And coming here won't change much cos the oil companies cannot employ beyond what they need. Even if every single shell staff is from ND, highest that's 2500 people. What of the other millions from ND?
Your post make sense, die! cheesy Abeg, collect one chilled bottle from Mama Tamuno's shop down the road. Let her know that all the drinks are on me! cool
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Ademat7(m): 4:33pm On Mar 12, 2017
Codes151:
you are a cow! To think being posted to a one local school in one remote village gives u the accurate knowledge to have a say about issues pertaining to a state that you haven't actually lived in! Na person like u be the real otondo
Thumbs up bro
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Ademat7(m): 4:37pm On Mar 12, 2017
Codes151:
you are a cow! To think being posted to a one local school in one remote village gives u the accurate knowledge to have a say about issues pertaining to a state that you haven't actually lived in! Na person like u be the real otondo
Thumbs up bro,this are d statement that bring development to lagos
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Nobody: 4:44pm On Mar 12, 2017
Gucciboss:
Shatap grin
Who is responsible for the Airport, state government or FG?

So the Governors should construct East - West, while the FG handle Lagos - Ibandan express way with over 50 billion abi

So your states produce good leaders and you are still in darkness for over 50 years abi grin
Your states produce good leaders and your people are dying to get UK visa.
Nigerians sha
keep waiting and comparing.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Codes151(m): 4:57pm On Mar 12, 2017
Ademat7:
Thumbs up bro,this are d statement that bring development to lagos
that local school in Akwa Ibom has all the basic requirements that all local schools in Lagos lack! As a copper how was the camp you stayed? Compared to that NYSC orientation camp at Iyana IPaja, Lagos.

As u can see there is a big gap! You don't make noise bout Lagos after being aided with other people's cash n talents!
Try to be objective.

Well, u served there! Probably one of them kids that just finished school! Trying seeing Lagos for what is it... own up to the good of Lagos n the bad! the inside of Ajegunle, Amukoko, Ijora Badia, Agege, Makoko, etc. The dirty and slummy areas in Lagos Island, Alimosho, Ojo, Badagry, Alagbado etc. Then you will not open your mouth To talk crap about a state that has done a lot singled handedly
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by obongitiad(m): 5:14pm On Mar 12, 2017
PapaBrowne:
They don't have to move their headquarters if they don't want to.

The states in question should come up with a tax called Offshore Headquarters Tax.

So a simple law is enacted that says if you are an extractive company, you should have your headquarters located at least 200km from your highest concentration of extractive activity.

Now if you don't want to comply, it isn't a crime. You just have to pay the Offshore Headquarters Tax which should be minimum 20% of profits from extractive activity.
This is a great idea but there is a little challenge here, States cannot make laws concerning natural resources in Nigeria. Only the Federal Government as in Senators can do that.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Ademat7(m): 5:24pm On Mar 12, 2017
Codes151:
that local school in Akwa Ibom has all the basic requirements that all local schools in Lagos lack! As a copper how was the camp you stayed? Compared to that NYSC orientation camp at Iyana IPaja, Lagos.

As u can see there is a big gap! You don't make noise bout Lagos after being aided with other people's cash n talents!
Try to be objective.

Well, u served there! Probably one of them kids that just finished school! Trying seeing Lagos for what is it... own up to the good of Lagos n the bad! the inside of Ajegunle, Amukoko, Ijora Badia, Agege, Makoko, etc. The dirty and slummy areas in Lagos Island, Alimosho, Ojo, Badagry, Alagbado etc. Then you will not open your mouth To talk crap about a state that has done a lot singled handedly
@bolded what's ur definition of single handedly?
A state that received the highest federal allocation +13% derivative, bro if u are the biblical Joseph; Egypt will suffer great famine in history under ur watch.
P.S: the funny thing is that u don't know d intellectual acumen of who u r dealing with but what u've posted on this forum speaks a lot about you.
Much respect to u bro.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by DozieInc(m): 5:28pm On Mar 12, 2017
DMeanMan:
The oil producing communities have this over demanding mentality. Always thinking they're entitled to everything. Always coming with rediculous demands and expectations, and once they're not met they resort to violence. Forget the Oil, no one wants to do business in those conditions.

The Local Chiefs' still ask for Cows (and some other rediculous things to celebrate Christmas and New Year) from companies in Trans Amadi, PH. Common! It's 2017 guys.

You guys should chill out and take a cue from Lagos. Take seriously the people you choose to represent you and be sure their views and opinion about issues aligns with what you have in mind.
You think the FG is doing the OIL COMMUNITIES any sort of favour?
The Nigerian state should be thankful everyday for the OIL COMMUNITIES because they literally "spoon feeds" the rest of the country. Saying they are OVER demanding is actually biting the finger that feeds you.

Speaking of violence.
What is happening to the PIB (Petroleum Industrial Bill) ? Or the recommendations of the CONFAB concerning OIL COMMUNITIES?
The govt merely pays lip service to real issues concerning the OIL communities, and any bill that seems to benefit them is dead on arrival at the national assembly.
Injustice and oppression of the people by the Nigerian state are the actual causes of violence.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Blue3k(m): 5:39pm On Mar 12, 2017
You can't tell these guys didn't read story. Mobil Producing Nigeria said 80% of its staff is in Akwa Ibom. Majority of commuity development is there. They already have liason office for these kind of talks. The majority of business centered on Akwa Ibom.

They hardly want to protest government waste in state owned oil company. That own is fully accountable to them. State own oil refineries is FUBAR. The government should stronger with environmental protection. As in Don't let fish die because of oil spill.


COMPAQ:
Not quite sure what magic develolment you think it will bring! Already like half of Mobil staff (if not more) are based in eket. What magic will the other half bring. SPDC is headquartered in PH. What fantastic change did it bring? Is there anything fantastic about Port Harcourt? She'll had only operations in Warri, before they sold their OML's there and Warri is now a shadow of itself. Just to let you know that even without having HQ in Warri and only operational base, Shell was making an impact in Warri. Maybe more useful to ask for proper accountability for the states of the Niger Delta, from NDDC etc. We Nigerians find it easy to go and protest in front of shell gate, but will never go and protest at government house.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Dareomo(m): 5:51pm On Mar 12, 2017
May be we should thank God for a listening leader like PYO who is ready to Work the Talk.
But we should also reason with the IOC who may not be able to relocate, and therefore forge a common way of relishing beneficial project to the people of the land.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by aribisala0(m): 5:53pm On Mar 12, 2017
There is one particular tribe in the Delta that insist on this.When given work they don't turn up and if you don't pay they threaten to burn everything down .We all know who they are
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by naijaking1: 6:13pm On Mar 12, 2017
coputa:
Siting their headquarters in Lagos gave them(Yorubas) a lot of advantages.Firstly,they recruit them into management positions,this explains why they dominates the strategic positions in these oil companies leaving the crumbs for those that has the oil,this is unfair.
The same parasites who suddenly woke up and are claiming Lagos as their inheritance, asking other tribes to go home, will now come to tell us why a company that ravages the environment in Akwa Ibom should maintain a pristine head office complex in far away Lagos staffed by blood sucking, tribalistic, and short sighted group of Nigerians--you know who.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by Maduawuchukwu(m): 6:14pm On Mar 12, 2017
So far I like the contributions on this thread. It reminds me of the Nairaland I started observing in 2008; very informative and enlightening. We don't need all these "afonja" or "Igbo" insults here because they distract from much we can learn here.
On my part I believe that oil coys should have their HQ in the region were they derive their resources from but they should not be forced to relocate as it is an anti-free trade move. Akwa-ibom cannot implement laws that use fiscal measures to compel the movement of oil coys back to its state because the Federal government is the only body allowed to make laws as regards companies and allied matters.
The structure of Nigeria does not allow the states to effectively compete with each other for economic development as many of the tools to do so are with the federal government. A state cant compete very well when it can't use the strongest tool which is the fiscal one to its advantage.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by laudate: 6:18pm On Mar 12, 2017
naijaking1:
The same parasites who suddenly woke up and are claiming Lagos as their inheritance, asking other tribes to go home, will now come to tell us why a company that ravages the environment in Akwa Ibom should maintain a pristine head office complex in far away Lagos staffed by blood sucking, tribalistic, and short sighted group of Nigerians--you know who.
Are you referring to the same Mobil that already has over 80% of its staff living and working in Akwa Ibom? huh
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by naijaking1: 6:20pm On Mar 12, 2017
Maduawuchukwu:
So far I like the contributions on this thread. It reminds me of the Nairaland I started observing in 2008; very informative and enlightening. We don't need all these "afonja" or "Igbo" insults here because they distract from much we can learn here.
On my part I believe that oil coys should have their HQ in the region were they derive their resources from but they should not be forced to relocate as it is an anti-free trade move. Akwa-ibom cannot implement laws that use fiscal measures to compel the movement of oil coys back to its state because the Federal government is the only body allowed to make laws as regards companies and allied matters.
The structure of Nigeria does not allow the states to effectively compete with each other for economic development as many of the tools to do so are with the federal government. A state cant compete very well when it can't use the strongest tool which is the fiscal one to its advantage.
A federal law that was purposely designed to enslave a group of people to be benefit of others has to be resisted, and righteously too. Federal government run by Hausa/Fulani/Yoruba people designed a law that not only takes away 90% of the oil resources from the east to their own locale.
It's not not right, it's an evil law that must be resisted at all cost, no matter how many plasters you use to cover this wound, the cure of wound is to clean the wound from the inside.
Re: Why We Can’t Relocate From Lagos To Akwa Ibom – Exxonmobil by naijaking1: 6:23pm On Mar 12, 2017
laudate:
Are you referring to the same Mobil that already has over 80% of its staff living and working in Akwa Ibom? huh
No my friend, they are not. Don't mind the screwed up stats. If Mobil is an Akwa Ibom based company, it would be headquartered somewhere in Uyo, it would pay more attention to the environment, because they are also there. When politicians make them headquarter in Lagos or Kaduna, it doesn't make any sense, and must be corrected.
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