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Kog45:
Stop it my man,nobody is saying creating a slot for any home based.If they merit it,they should be called ASAP.They are Nigerian and super eagle is not meant for only foreign based.

I believe PSG is worse than River United with this result,so what a fuss.

My point is cleared,it is better for Rohr to look inward than inviting player from obscure league of Bosnia,Cyprus or division 3.

I already agreed with u that no local good for Eaagles coz u watched d league and i don't have d opportunity of recent.

We shouldn't call a guy from Bosnia but u were sad that olisadebe was overlooked while he was playing in an obscure league (the Polish league).

BascoVanVeli:
That same team won 3-0 at home., they are not a bad team but Nigerian clubs in general have trouble traveling. I bet even a world class player won't be so world class when put through the conditions these men work in.
As for Odey, i have clearly said we should wait on inviting NPFL players for the good of the league but not because they are not good enough.

Spot-on, with the bolded... The conditions for improving players is not available on the local scene.

Chisom Egbuchulam came in as an 86th minute sub in his first game for Hacken in Sweden. His team lost 3:1.

Don't forget how hostile these Arabs can be even to fellow Arabs. I read on supersport.com.ng that the fans attacked our boys when they got to Sudan and they were threatening fire and brimstone. Now think of what such condition can do to a players confidence when he knows he ain't safe should they win. And to the ref's confidence too

Thank God Hayatou who was leaking their (North african) smelly ass has been ousted, and I hope Ahmad addresses this issue ASAP. I'm a staunch Rangers fan but I hope rivers file a case against AL merrick on the treatment meted on them.

any news about Derick osede. he plays for real Madrid team B. has Nigerian father and Spanish mother

Icon4s:
Exactly my thoughts.

When are Rangers playing?

Results like this do not necessarily represent a good measure of talents abound in a league.
I will take France as a case study. I can't remember the last time a French club won the champions league or even the Europa league. Nevertheless products from that league dominate European football. Even a forgotten man like Payet came to England and swept everyone away.

Again, I will use the example of Eupen in Belgium. A team which can be described as the weeping boys of Belgium. Throughout the seaon they have been loosing left, right, Centre but a lot of people still clamour for the inclusion of a player in such a team Henry Onyekuru.

As a person, I don't think it makes sense to argue that about 700+ players registered by the LMC this season,we can't find 2 or 3 who can make super eagles team in a friendly against Senegal and Burkina Faso.

I remember back in 2002, a team of home based players were assembly by Eguavoun to play a much better Senegalese team than the ones we face next week,coming after the high at the Korea world cup. The bunch of home bases players out played the Senegalese in Dakar. If I recall, it was Temple Moneke or Lucky Idaho who scored from about 45 yards.
Remember, this Senegalese side was packed with the likes of fadiga, Diouf. Diao and Aliou Cisse. Fifteen years later, not even one single home based player will make the team to play Senegal in a friendly game. That can't be right.

Even the Burkina Faso team we will play against are rolling in with some of their home based players from reports. Are there better talented players in Burkina faso than in Nigeria?
Let's call a spade a spade. Rohr didn't do well to ignore the Npfl players like he did.

Kakamorufu:
any news about Derick osede. he plays for real Madrid team B. has Nigerian father and Spanish mother

Osede plays for Bolton now in the English League 1.

goldfish80:
Results like this do not necessarily represent a good measure of talents abound in a league.
I will take France as a case study. I can't remember the last time a French club won the champions league or even the Europa league. Nevertheless products from that league dominate European football. Even a forgotten man like Payet came to England and swept everyone away.

Again, I will use the example of Eupen in Belgium. A team which can be described as the weeping boys of Belgium. Throughout the seaon they have been loosing left, right, Centre but a lot of people still clamour for the inclusion of a player in such a team Henry Onyekuru.

As a person, I don't think it makes sense to argue that about 700+ players registered by the LMC this season,we can't find 2 or 3 who can make super eagles team in a friendly against Senegal and Burkina Faso.

I remember back in 2002, a team of home based players were assembly by Eguavoun to play a much better Senegalese team than the ones we face next week,coming after the high at the Korea world cup. The bunch of home bases players out played the Senegalese in Dakar. If I recall, it was Temple Moneke or Lucky Idaho who scored from about 45 yards.
Remember, this Senegalese side was packed with the likes of fadiga, Diouf. Diao and Aliou Cisse. Fifteen years later, not even one single home based player will make the team to play Senegal in a friendly game. That can't be right.

Even the Burkina Faso team wide will play are rolling in with some of their home based players from reports. Ate their better talented players in Burkina faso than in Nigeria?
Let's call a spade a spade. Rohr didn't do well to ignore the Npfl players like he did.

1. Eupen are not the weeping boys of the Belgian league. They comfortably survived relegation through the exploits of Onyekuru. Onyekuru's influence was critical and that is why he is getting rave reviews.

2. We have to be honest about the quality of our league, if this was under 20 or under 17, no problem, the exposure will help young players move ahead with their careers. Players who play at that standard outside Nigeria will not be given a call-up. We do not even call North African talents.

3. Nigeria has more talents outside the country than Burkina faso, so competition is stiffer for places.

4. We should not apply sentiments in selection because they are home-based.

tbaba1234:
1. Eupen are not the weeping boys of the Belgian league. They comfortably survived relegation through the exploits of Onyekuru. Onyekuru's influence was critical and that is why he is getting rave reviews.

2. We have to be honest about the quality of our league, if this was under 20 or under 17, no problem, the exposure will help young players move ahead with their careers. Players who play at that standard outside Nigeria will not be given a call-up. We do not even call North African talents.

3. Nigeria has more talents outside the country than Burkina faso, so competition is stiffer for places.

4. We should not apply sentiments in selection because they are home-based.

Eupen may have survived the drop but it doesn't mean they were are a great team. The Eupen team I watched a couple of times this season were as rubbish a team as they come.

The quality of our league have been improving. If the LMC can find their bearing on logistics it will be much better.

Was it not Barcelona who got a player straight out of our league. Can you imagine? We rely on Europeans to do our scouting for us. What does that tell you?

I watched Enyimba vs Mfm last week on TV. A certain. Enyimba player scored a peach of a goal. A much better goal than the celebrated strike by Olatumbosun. The way he turned and took the shot on a volley with a bicycle kick would have had this thread go nuts if Henry onyekuru scored that in Belgium.

Do you really think we don't have more Etebors in this league? You've got to be kidding me.

BascoVanVeli:
Dived is such a strong word, more like he went down lol.

goldfish80:
Eupen may have survived the drop but it doesn't mean they were are a great team. The Eupen team I watched a couple of times this season were as rubbish a team as they come.

The quality of our league have been improving. If the LMC can find their bearing on logistics it will be much better.

Was it not Barcelona who got a player straight out of our league. Can you imagine? We rely on Europeans to do our scouting for us. What does that tell you?

I watched Enyimba vs Mfm last week on TV. A certain. Enyimba player scored a peach of a goal. A much better goal than the celebrated strike by Olatumbosun. The way he turned and took the shot on a volley with a bicycle kick would have had this thread go nuts if Henry onyekuru scored that in Belgium.

Do you really think we don't have more Etebors in this league? You've got to be kidding me.

Barcelona B plays in the Third tier of spanish football... That is probably worse than league 1 in England.. Biko, apart from the name Barca, Ezekiel Bassey is not playing at a high level at the moment. Was Ekpolo not in Barca B? Is he not now in league 2?

There is talent in the league but they do not last or slowly depreciate because of the standard that they are playing.

If our league players can not do well in CHAN and in the African Champions league, we have to doubt the quality to compete at the international level where there are much better players.

As regards good goals, watch the indian, malaysian and indonesian league, you will see great goals. It does not mean the players can cut it at a higher level.

ChrisKels:
We shouldn't call a guy from Bosnia but u were sad that olisadebe was overlooked while he was playing in an obscure league (the Polish league).

Pls can u compare polish league of late 90s to early 2000s to present Bosnia or Cyprus league.

Olisadebe single-handedly took Poland to world cup and was one of d best striker in Europe then with great review all over d world.

Pls check polish league then and u w understand what am saying that they are far ahead of present Bosnia or Cyprus league.

Pls name a reputable club in Bosnia or Cyprus

tbaba1234:
Barcelona B plays in the Third tier of spanish football... That is probably worse than league 1 in England.. Biko, apart from the name Barca, Ezekiel Bassey is not playing at a high level at the moment. Was Ekpolo not in Barca B? Is he not now in league 2?

There is talent in the league but they do not last or slowly depreciate because of the standard that they are playing.

If our league players can not do well in CHAN and in the African Champions league, we have to doubt the quality to compete at the international level where there are much better players.

As regards good goals, watch the indian, malaysian and indonesian league, you will see great goals. It does not mean the players can cut it at a higher level.

So we should continue to wait for Europeans to come down and scout for talents in our league while we sit fingers crossed, pray and wait till they blow before we invite them to the national team. Dont you see the folly in this line of thought?


The league in Spain is so structured that teams tin the top tier are allowed to have their 2nd team participate in the lowest division. Instead of having an U23 league like they do in England. I can recall Arsene Wenger a few years ago suggested to the FA to adopt this to the benefit of young players who often are sent on loan to clubs in the lower leagues where they meet a culture shock and a total different style of football to their parent clubs.
Having this system in place will eliminate this problem of adaptation of players which could turn their development anti clockwise. Lots of talented players have been lost to this English loan system as they have it.

Barcelona B were playing in the 2nd division Spain before they were demoted. Their players are entitled to make match day squad of the main Barca team. Where do you think Sergio Robeto and the likes came from?

When was the last time a French team did well in the Champions league and Europa league? Don't players from that league move for multi million pounds every transfer window. Football is much more than just results.

Even if our home based payers win Chan, you will still grudge if Rohr invites a couple. It's already an established mindset. Dont hide under chan to throw shots.

tbaba1234:
PSG lost to Barca, arguably the best team in the world.

Rivers United got pummeled by a team from Sudan.

Is the Nigerian league better than the league in Cyprus or Bosnia? Is it not the same obscure leagues where many top players in the Nigerian league end up?

We have talents in the league but let us be honest, if they stay in the league too long, they lose it. The best Nigerian players do not stay in the league.

Bosnia or Cyprus league?i surrender

jotey:
thank God u said it yourself

iheanacho played 9 matches before he was invited
iheanacho was consistent

same cannot b said about solanke ..solanke has not played 90minutes this season and you want I'd to invite him. Chai

solanke is a bench warmer and cannot b invited chikena

about onomah....onomah is not consistent enough....

who do you think onomah can displace in this current SE

oga think na

Was Alex Iwobi (an Arsenal U19) consistent with Arsenal first team before he was invited to play for Nigeria?

Kog45:
Bosnia or Cyprus league?i surrender

How many Nigerian players have ended up in Malta or Cyprus or even Bosnia?

goldfish80:
So we should continue to wait for Europeans to come down and scout for talents in our league while we sit fingers crossed, pray and wait till they blow before we invite them to the national team. Dont you see the folly in this line of thought?

The league in Spain is so structured that teams tin the top tier are allowed to have their 2nd team participate in the lowest division. Instead of having an U23 league lieutenant do in England. I can recall Arsene Wenger a few years ago suggested to the FA to adopt this to the benefit of young players who often are sent on loan to clubs in the lower leagues where they meet a culture shock and a total different style of football to their parent clubs.
Having this system in place will eliminate this problem of adaptation of players which could turn their development anti clockwise. Lots of talented players have been lost to this English loan system as they have it.

Barcelona B where playing in the 2nd division Spain before they were demoted. Their players are entitled to make match day squad of the main Barca team. Where do you think Sergio Robeto and the likes came from?

When was the last time a French team did well in the Champions league and Europa league? Don't players from that league move for multi million pounds every transfer window. Football is much more than just results.

Even if our home based payers win Chan, you will still grudge if Rohr invites a couple. It's already an established mindset. Dont hide under chan to throw shots.

Barca B is still playing at a lower level same as Real Madrid Castilla. The structure in Spain is the same as in Holland and Portugal. Porto has Porto B, Ajax has Jong Ajax. Many of their players never make it to the top flight. Our own Derik Osede is now in league 1 after playing for Real madrid Castilla.

If i see a clearly outstanding talent in the league, I will come here to advocate for the player. I was in Nigeria a couple of years ago and watched many league games. I can not say, i was blown away by the quality. Chisom Egbuchulam, who was Nigeria's best player last year could only secure a loan deal in Sweden. That is not to say there are not players that could possibly make the super eagles squad but they are few. After all, Kante was picked from lower divisions.There are always diamonds in the rough, let them play CHAN and show themselves.

I started actively following the Nigerian league in the early 1990s and followed several teams through those years. I am not an enemy of the league but at this time, we have better players outside.

Ryan Sanusi goal for Sparta Rotherdam:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pZtl40Jt4g&sns=tw

Orji Okonkwo Brace for Bologna in the Viareggio Cup, beautiful free kick


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovbvHFS7U0o&feature=youtu.be

forgiveness:
Was Alex Iwobi (an Arsenal U19) consistent with Arsenal first team before he was invited to play for Nigeria?

iwobi came down to Lagos to train with the Nigeria u-23
to show his commitment with his fatherland ...besides the SE's attack was full of average players then compared to now

ojo cannot break into our starting 11 @ the moment
chikena

tbaba1234:
Spot-on, with the bolded... The conditions for improving players is not available on the local scene.

They improve but the conditions make it hard to show quality 100% of the time.

tbaba1234:
How many Nigerian players have ended up in Malta or Cyprus or even Bosnia?

I keep on mentioning Bosnia and Cyprus coz of Super Eagles players like Musa muhammed(Bosnia)and Shehu Abdullahi(Cyprus)such league w not aid their development compare to their counterparts in Belgian or Dutch league not to talk of EPL,La liga,Bundesliga,Portuguese league.

I'm of opinion that it is better to look inward than inviting player from such league so that it w discouraged our talented players from going into such league.

Honestly i rate Musa Mohammed and Shehu Abdullahi very high.

tbaba1234:
Osede plays for Bolton now in the English League 1.

thats great. He's willing to play for naija tho. Rohr shld call him. I fink he's good too

forgiveness:
Was Alex Iwobi (an Arsenal U19) consistent with Arsenal first team before he was invited to play for Nigeria?

Fifa rules require that an application be made from the
interested association seeking for permission before a
player switches his allegiance, but the world football
ruling body clarified that the Gunner can represent
Nigeria as he did not feature for England in an official
game.
All invited players are expected to arrive in Belgium on
October 5, 2015.
THE FULL SQUAD
Goalkeepers: Vincent Enyeama (Lille OSC, France); Carl
Ikeme (Wolverhampton Wanderers, England); Ikechukwu
Ezenwa (Sunshine Stars); Femi Thomas (Enyimba FC)
Defenders: Leon Balogun (FSV Mainz 05, Germany);
Abdullahi Shehu (Uniao da Madeira, Portugal); Elderson
Echiejile (AS Monaco, France); Chima Akas (Sharks FC);
Godfrey Oboabona (Caykur Rizespor, Turkey); William
Troost Ekong (FK Haugesund, Norway); Kenneth Omeruo
(Kasimpasa SK, Turkey); Austin Oboroakpo (Abia
Warriors)
Midfielders: Ogenyi Onazi (SS Lazio, Italy); Paul Onobi
(Sunshine Stars); Obiora Nwankwo (Coimbra FC,
Portugal); John Mikel Obi (Chelsea FC, England); Rabiu
Ibrahim (AS Trencin, Slovakia)
Forwards: Ahmed Musa (CSKA Moscow, Russia);
Emmanuel Emenike (Al Ain, UAE); Sylvester Igbonu (FC
UFA, Russia); Moses Simon (KAA Gent, Belgium); Victor
Moses (West Ham United, England); Odion Ighalo
(Watford FC, England); Prince Aggrey (Sunshine Stars);
Alex Iwobi (Arsenal FC, England)




abi shey na price agrrey wan prevent iwobi call up ?


looking @ this list the SE has changed alot

kudos to rohr

Kog45:
I keep on mentioning Bosnia and Cyprus coz of Super Eagles players like Musa muhammed(Bosnia)and Shehu Abdullahi(Cyprus)such league w not aid their development compare to their counterparts in Belgian or Dutch league not to talk of EPL,La liga,Bundesliga,Portuguese league.

I'm of opinion that it is better to look inward than inviting player from such league so that it w discouraged our talented players from going into such league.

Honestly i rate Musa Mohammed and Shehu Abdullahi very high.

If we do not invite Musa or Shehu, there are several other options outside Nigeria that the league players have to compete with. Esiti, Mikel Agu for DM.. Brian Idowu/ Odubanjo right back

tbaba1234:
If we do not invite Musa or Shehu, there are several other options outside Nigeria that the league players have to compete with. Esiti, Mikel Agu for DM.. Brian Idowu/ Odubanjo right back

Ok Esiti,Agu but i don't see Brian Idowu or Odubanjo as options coz allegiance to Nigeria is still secrecy.Abi what do u think

ChrisKels:
How many of these English guys wanna don the green and white Jersey of the Eagles? This should be the question.

Ejaria no doubt, won't turn us down because when he was passing through a rough patch, Nigeria gave a helping hand by giving him an invitation to join the 2013 u17 set... We all know the story.

Ibeh, ojo, Akpom, Aina, Ebuehi have been met and they asked to be giving more time which simply mean they ain't ready. To me, since we've made our proposal, it is now incumbent on them to reach out to us, when they are ready since we've shown them that we want them, that's the sense of belonging u talked about. Ebuehi called back that he was ready after after asking to me given more time initially but how many of these innit boys have called back?

Solanke, akpoguma, iyoha stated clearly that Nigeria ain't an option. They wanna represent their country of birth.

Odubajo shunned our invitation to the u23 though he cited the timing as his reason and promise to honor our invitation if not for his injuries.

Tammy Abraham has met with Pinnick, I don't think he said no with what Pinnick said, but like others, he asked to be given more time.

Adarabioyo said no.

Onyedinma was neither here nor there with his response.

Ademola was a member of team Nigeria UK handled by Doherty. Now he is enjoying a kinda purple patch he is more concerned with cementing his place in the first team than getting distracted with nationality wahala. I doubt he would turn us down anyways. But is this d right time to call him up?

Dominic iorfa senior said his son would play for Eagles but not until he is 23 and above. He said he ain't mature for international football yet, but trust me, should d 3 lions call him up today, automatically, he would be mature. Iorfa we know ur motive.

Well am behind Rohr with his German call up. Noah is a gem and I hope he gets us Jordan torunarigha of Hertha BSc also. Had those innit boys not ask for more time, I believe some of them would have gotten their invites alongside Noah and Ebuehi.


People I think we should be clamoring for are guys like Manuel Akanji of Basel who never hides the Nigerian part of him, inform Aluko and others who see themselves as Nigerians.

Shout from now till morrow, a guy like Solanke can hardly see naija as an option.

Why do some us find it difficult to appreciate what we have? I nearly kicked out on d guy before me in a queue d moment I read that Success is a waste. Chai my people make una take am easy with anything foreign.

Innit boys are holding out for the opportunity to serve the Queen hence they are asking for more time. If d 3 lions had come knocking, dey would celebrate it instead of asking for more time. I see their excuses as a ploy to weigh their chances with England before considering us. This is the truth and I don't know why some of u are shying away from it.

Give me a German talent with huge future but still plies his trade in the 2 Bundesliga who is happy to get a call from Rohr, and will take him any day, any time over an epl kid using us to play ludo

I cannot deny the fact that u wrote true.....
I think rohr should be encouraged and not criticized

Kakamorufu:
thats great. He's willing to play for naija tho. Rohr shld call him. I fink he's good too

a player who plays for league 1....
do u want rohr to loose his job?

tbaba1234:
How many Nigerian players have ended up in Malta or Cyprus or even Bosnia?

many sir...some even in Finland...
abeg the desperation amongs this home based players is too much...they are so quick to jump on anything foreign deals...even Vietnam

jotey:
iwobi came down to Lagos to train with the Nigeria u-23
to show his commitment with his fatherland ...besides the SE's attack was full of average players then compared to now

ojo cannot break into our starting 11 @ the moment
chikena

You can only deceive an ignoramus mumu not me.

You said you don't want academy players invited to the national team but how come you don't know why Alex Iwobi was invited to the Super Eagles when he was an academy player, U19 for that matter? I am asking you ooooooo.

jotey:
iwobi came down to Lagos to train with the Nigeria u-23
to show his commitment with his fatherland ...besides the SE's attack was full of average players then compared to now

ojo cannot break into our starting 11 @ the moment
chikena

Where you expecting an academy player, Alex Iwobi to break into the Nigerian national team?

Kog45:
Stop it my man,nobody is saying creating a slot for any home based.If they merit it,they should be called ASAP.They are Nigerian and super eagle is not meant for only foreign based.

I believe PSG is worse than River United with this result,so what a fuss.

My point is cleared,it is better for Rohr to look inward than inviting player from obscure league of Bosnia,Cyprus or division 3.

I already agreed with u that no local good for Eaagles coz u watched d league and i don't have d opportunity of recent.

The way people are going about clamouring for the inclusion of home based players depicts creation of slots for them. Words like "just to encourage the league players..." is the most common reason.

You must prove ur worth to merit the Super Eagles jersey. Period.