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tbaba1234:
Porto B players train with Porto, Jong Ajax players trained with Ajax first team.. This structure is in Germany too. The exceptional ones make it to the first team but most of them don't.

Chisom Egbuchulam was taken on loan.. He was not signed by the swedish club. Signing him is subject to his performance over the loan period. For the best player in the Nigerian league last season, that is poor.

I have no doubt that there are gems in the Nigerian league but they have to show it. Good thing, they have the CHAN to show how good they are.

chrisooblog:
bro I have no problem with him being called up what I am against is him being used as an excuse to discredit other players like success and Moses Simon I appreciate his talents and feel he can still Be an asset to the super Eagles

goldfish80:
Beautiful that you mentioned this yourself. All these clubs you listed have their players registered and train with the first team while playing in a league against professional teams in the lower leagues.
In England, their 2nd team play in the U23 league or reserve league. The scenario would have been totally different if for instance, Liverpool B were playing in the championship against solid teams like Sheffield or Newcastle Utd like you have in other countries.

I don't understand your point in reference to the Chisom Egbuchulam deal. Are you saying Chisom is not a good player because he could only secure a deal in Sweden? Did he go on trial and fail at Real Madrid? I really want to know why you referenced Chisom whenever you want to spite the Npfl players.
Not so long ago, you called a 25yr old Chisom Egbuchulam an "old player" not until people started correcting you that you stopped.

Your disdain towards the Npfl is the reason why this country and is in a mess economically. We always wait for the white man to come take our raw materials, process and refine only to resale the finished product back to us. The Aba and Nnewi boys who are trying to produce locally aren't being encouraged. No support system is in place to protect these guys like a simple loan or a freaking Aba fashion week to showcase their products to the world.
We would rather wait for our oyinbo masters to ship footwares, suits and corn flakes down to us while we do absolutely nothing. We have brought this same attitude to football. We need to validation of an oyinbo scout to believe a player is good.

Aren't we ashamed Europeans leave their countries, come down here and scout for players like in the case of Ndidi, Gent purchased him from Nath boys for 2 bottles of whisky and resold same player 2 years down the line to Leicester for £15M. Who is fooling who?

Since you love the Chan so much, why aren't you advocating that Rohr should have included some homebased players in the friendlies against African oppositions like Senegal and burkina to prepare them for Chan? Don't hide behind Chan to make a case against the homebased players. Am too smart for that. I can read your stream of thought very well.

goldfish80:
Beautiful that you mentioned this yourself. All these clubs you listed have their players registered and train with the first team while playing in a league against professional teams in the lower leagues.
In England, their 2nd team play in the U23 league or reserve league. The scenario would have been totally different if for instance, Liverpool B were playing in the championship against solid teams like Sheffield or Newcastle Utd like you have in other countries.

I don't understand your point in reference to the Chisom Egbuchulam deal. Are you saying Chisom is not a good player because he could only secure a deal in Sweden? Did he go on trial and fail at Real Madrid? I really want to know why you referenced Chisom whenever you want to spite the Npfl players.
Not so long ago, you called a 25yr old Chisom Egbuchulam an "old player" not until people started correcting you that you stopped.

Your disdain towards the Npfl is the reason why this country and is in a mess economically. We always wait for the white man to come take our raw materials, process and refine only to resale the finished product back to us. The Aba and Nnewi boys who are trying to produce locally aren't being encouraged. No support system is in place to protect these guys like a simple loan or a freaking Aba fashion week to showcase their products to the world.
We would rather wait for our oyinbo masters to ship footwares, suits and corn flakes down to us while we do absolutely nothing. We have brought this same attitude to football. We need to validation of an oyinbo scout to believe a player is good.

Aren't we ashamed Europeans leave their countries, come down here and scout for players like in the case of Ndidi, Gent purchased him from Nath boys for 2 bottles of whisky and resold same player 2 years down the line to Leicester for £15M. Who is fooling who?

Since you love the Chan so much, why aren't you advocating that Rohr should have included some homebased players in the friendlies against African oppositions like Senegal and burkina to prepare them for Chan? Don't hide behind Chan to make a case against the homebased players. Am too smart for that. I can read your stream of thought very well.

BlackAlbino6:
Sir Icon4s pls give this Man 2 strokes of the cane for coming late

forgiveness:
Did you read where I complained about Iwobi's inclusion to play for Nigeria while he he was still playing with Arsenal U19 team?

No, My reference on Iwobi's inclusion was to buttress my case that an identified potential talented academy player eligible to play for other countries and Nigeria should be called to the national team. Period.

I have proven that.

goldfish80:
Beautiful that you mentioned this yourself. All these clubs you listed have their players registered and train with the first team while playing in a league against professional teams in the lower leagues.
In England, their 2nd team play in the U23 league or reserve league. The scenario would have been totally different if for instance, Liverpool B were playing in the championship against solid teams like Sheffield or Newcastle Utd like you have in other countries.

I don't understand your point in reference to the Chisom Egbuchulam deal. Are you saying Chisom is not a good player because he could only secure a deal in Sweden? Did he go on trial and fail at Real Madrid? I really want to know why you referenced Chisom whenever you want to spite the Npfl players.
Not so long ago, you called a 25yr old Chisom Egbuchulam an "old player" not until people started correcting you that you stopped.

Your disdain towards the Npfl is the reason why this country and is in a mess economically. We always wait for the white man to come take our raw materials, process and refine only to resale the finished product back to us. The Aba and Nnewi boys who are trying to produce locally aren't being encouraged. No support system is in place to protect these guys like a simple loan or a freaking Aba fashion week to showcase their products to the world.
We would rather wait for our oyinbo masters to ship footwares, suits and corn flakes down to us while we do absolutely nothing. We have brought this same attitude to football. We need to validation of an oyinbo scout to believe a player is good.

Aren't we ashamed Europeans leave their countries, come down here and scout for players like in the case of Ndidi, Gent purchased him from Nath boys for 2 bottles of whisky and resold same player 2 years down the line to Leicester for £15M. Who is fooling who?

Since you love the Chan so much, why aren't you advocating that Rohr should have included some homebased players in the friendlies against African oppositions like Senegal and burkina to prepare them for Chan? Don't hide behind Chan to make a case against the homebased players. Am too smart for that. I can read your stream of thought very well.

TheGoodJoe:
I agree with you. No one us asking for an automatic shirt or preference for our home based players but for Rohr to also search in. I think most of the blame should fall on our indigenous coaches working with Rohr. Have they gone to the live games to scout players. They must not travel round the country but watch most games in their state capital. Then pencil down names who can give our foreign pros a run for their money. This, I doubt.

tbaba1234:
I do not get why you are bringing us English B sides?? The point is that Barca B is playing in the third tier and Bassey is still playing at a low level. Training once in a while with the first team does not change that.

Home based players should not automatically be given a quota whether friendly or not. They are playing at a low level. Until, the player can show they can cut it. That is why CHAN is a good place to test them against other African teams. There are several Nigerians playing at higher levels that are not getting opportunities. Aluko, Fanendo Adi, Esiti, Agu, etc..

Chisom went to Sweden and all they offered him was a loan deal till they were fully convinced. That is the best player in the league. I use hm as a reference to the overall quality of the league. Biko, i have nothing against the player. I wish him all the best. I do not drag arguments here. I still believe that being in Sweden at 25 is old but there is no need to drag arguments here. Obaje also failed a trial at Spartak Moscow.. Many of the players that excel straight out of Nigeria are youth players not those who have spend above 5 years in the league.

No sentiments. Let them show themselves at a higher stage (continental level or CHAN)... I will come here and advocate for their invitation too.

tbaba1234:
Fanendo Adi scores again Perhaps, this guy can solve our striker issues.. Joseph1013


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJE4kHKyJWg

Icon4s:
Solving our strikers issue?
An MLS player?
How?

tbaba1234:
I am just throwing it in the air...

tbaba1234:
Rohr should be allowed to make his selections. I really hope that he is not been pressured by all the talk of home-based players. Let him be allowed to select the best.

tbaba1234:
Fanendo Adi scores again Perhaps, this guy can solve our striker issues.. Joseph1013


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJE4kHKyJWg

tbaba1234:
Theo Solomon's goal..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D1JjEmvwWw&sns=tw

Icon4s:
I was enjoying your story until the last paragraph.

Pls can you justify the call for the inclusion of home based players into this team?

Icon4s:
A good goal from the guy once nick-named 'the Nigerian Ronaldo'.

We may soon need to start selecting players for the 2019 AAG and 2020 Olympics qualifiers a good number of these young players are eligible.

AAG qualifiers starts next yr. All players who are presently 20yrs and below will make up the Dream team VII. At least this should be an opportunity for a player like Steven Odey

We jst need a good coach with unbiased selection process. I tip that team to do well.

Azubuike Okechukwu, Sadiq Umar, Nura Abdulahi, All Amuneke's U17 2015 boys, Ifeanyi Mathew, Musa Yahaya, Chidera Ezeh, Taiwo Awoniyi, Chidozie Awaziem, Osarenren Obazee, among others.

We can also send invitations to the English duo of Lookman And Abraham.

joseph1013:
I have said it before that these people shouting MLS this, MLS that cannot boast that come what may the Super Eagles will beat Columbia, Uruguay, Chile, or USA. In the FIFA ranking, USA is 30th, Uruguay is 9th, Columbia is 7th, Chile is 4th. Nigeria is 41 o. Some of the players of these teams play in the MLS, Fernando Adi is bossing them week in week out. Even Kaka was invited to the Brazilian team while playing in MLS.

We have players from Cameroun, Ivory Coast, and Mexico playing in the MLS.

So what's the excuse for not inviting Adi when he is regularly showing his quality in the league. It's not just the goals, it's the ways he scores them. Is MLS not better than Cyprus league? What about Bosnia?

According to a 2016 ranking, here are the top 10 leagues in the world:

1 Spanish La Liga 48
2 Premier League 47
3 Bundesliga 42
4 Italian Serie A 37
5 Portuguese Liga 35
6 French Ligue 1 31
7 Dutch Eredivisie 27
8 Argentine League 21
9 Brazilian Serie A 20
10 USA MLS 20


Source: http://www.totalsportek.com/football/ranking-best-league-in-the-world/

I repeat: What's the excuse? Why not invite him to camp and let him compete. Glad the likes of Siasia and Oliseh are out of the settings with their lies that he cannot undertake rigorous workouts.

Icon4s:
Can PSG lose 6-0 to a team from Cyprus or Albania,?

The players u are referring to as playing in Bosnia, Cyprus or division are Musa Mohammed, Shehu Abdullahi and Dele Alampasu right?

Firstly these are seasoned former youth internationals that we already know their capabilities.

Musa was captain at U17 and U20. Winning d golden boot award at the AYC. Though i do not consider him as matured enough to be in the starting 11 but he is at least good enough to be in that 25man squad.

Shehu Abdullahi played U20 under John Obu. He was part of the Keshi's 2014 CHAN team, he played under Oliseh, and also the Siasia's Egypt double header.

He even performed very well at Rio Olympics. Shehu is a kind of player that will always make the team sheet bc he is a utility player. He plays DMF, CMF and RB all very comfortably well.

For Shehu to leave the NPFL to Cyprus speaks a lot abt our local league. Shehu IMO is better than the league he finds himself playing. He is even nominated as part of the team of the season in Cyprus.

As for Dele Alampasu. He is not on this list so where does division3 come in here now?
Or tell me which player(s) from that Rohr's list that players division3 football.

I dnt base my arguments on sentiments but objectivity and facts.

U mentioned today that u dnt watch the NPFL so you are in no way in a position to advice Rohr or anybody on that.

You said Rohr should look inwards,

who told u he and his crew have not been watching the league?

If they found no player worthy would you force it upon them to pick any player?

Besides is Ikechukwu Ezenwa not a Homebased player anymore?

Was there not a time when Enyeama was the only home based player in the Super Eagles?

TheGoodJoe:
The only excuse that will fly is that Rohr wants a younger team. When it comes to talent, Aluko is up there with the very best Nigerian players we have today. We were also part of the reason Aluko fell off at Hull City. After few good games with the Super Eagles, we never gave him a call-up. A cycle we must break.

Aluko is on fire and the call for him is not to discredit any other player. Aluko in one of the months was the Championship player of the month. That to me is enough to show his quality is not debatable. He is still maintaining the quality and deserves a call-up. On merit, there is no way Aluko should not have made the call-up.

Kog45:
My man let end it here,we all want d best for Eagles either with foreign or home based players.

komekn:
Aluko was excluded intentionally by a hungry shameless assistant national coach who he refused to play financial Maradona with.

Basically he refused to settle, the concept was alien to him he felt he was there on merit. So why must he have to pay inducement and add insult to Injury sack his agent and take the recommended agent given by the coach. NUFF SAID.

Icon4s:
Ok you said so.

That is as far as debating it with you is concerned bc that does not stop me from airing my view about it with someone else. Except you want us to stop all discussions, close this thread and go our ways.

goldfish80:
Stephen Odeh has been scoring all kinds of goals this season against almost every team he has played against.
Scoring with his Left foot, right foot, head tells me he has little weakness to his game. Bernard Ovoke at Rivers Utd can also make the squad. He proved his quality last season and so far this season he has been quality. He's left footed with low centre gravity who can get past people and create dangerous moments in the final 3rd. He was the 2nd best player last season behind Chisom Egbuchulam if I were to rate.
Take a look at Rohr's team to these friendlies, I noticed Iwobi was the only creative midfielder called up. In my opinion, I think Obinna Nwobodo can stake a claim in this team going by what he brings to the table.

These three names I mentioned are qualified to make this team if given the ground was level. I don't need the verdict of a scout from Gent to know these guys are good players.

goldfish80:
Stephen Odeh has been scoring all kinds of goals this season against almost every team he has played against.
Scoring with his Left foot, right foot, head tells me he has little weakness to his game. Bernard Ovoke at Rivers Utd can also make the squad. He proved his quality last season and so far this season he has been quality. He's left footed with low centre gravity who can get past people and create dangerous moments in the final 3rd. He was the 2nd best player last season behind Chisom Egbuchulam if I were to rate.
Take a look at Rohr's team to these friendlies, I noticed Iwobi was the only creative midfielder called up. In my opinion, I think Obinna Nwobodo can stake a claim in this team going by what he brings to the table.

These three names I mentioned are qualified to make this team if given the ground was level. I don't need the verdict of a scout from Gent to know these guys are good players.

kingphilip:
I think from one of Rohr's press conference he said he left the local coaches with the task to select the best from the league who can fit into the team's philosophy and tell him

It's either the local coaches haven't seen one or they're afraid to introduce them to Rohr..

For me I'll clamor for the team's selection to be left to Rohr.. If he fails with the foreign pro or with the local players everything will be on him without room for excuses as to why he failed due to him not been the sole selector of his team

We can only suggest to him and not compel him to take our choices

tbaba1234:
I do not get why you are bringing us English B sides?? The point is that Barca B is playing in the third tier and Bassey is still playing at a low level. Training once in a while with the first team does not change that.

Home based players should not automatically be given a quota whether friendly or not. They are playing at a low level. Until, the player can show they can cut it. That is why CHAN is a good place to test them against other African teams. There are several Nigerians playing at higher levels that are not getting opportunities. Aluko, Fanendo Adi, Esiti, Agu, etc..

Chisom went to Sweden and all they offered him was a loan deal till they were fully convinced. That is the best player in the league. I use him as a reference to the overall quality of the league. Biko, i have nothing against the player. I wish him all the best. I do not drag arguments here. I still believe that being in Sweden at 25 is old but there is no need to drag arguments here. Obaje also failed a trial at Spartak Moscow.. Many of the players that excel straight out of Nigeria are youth players not those who have spent above 5 years in the league.

No sentiments. Let them show themselves at a higher stage (continental level or CHAN)... I will come here and advocate for their invitation too.