benzics:

You are basically saying God doesn't exist, since you seem to know how he behaves.

I might as well create a God who provides rain, and then I tell people to pray for rain, if they eventually see rain, "all glory be to the God of rain", if they don't, "the God of rain answers when he deems fit"... And there you go, I've completely deceived people to believe in the imaginary God I created!

Jesus didn't say "ask, and if I like it, I'll give", he rather said "ask and you will receive"... Stop modifying your" infallible" book

DoctorAlien:


What will happen?

I believe you can read and I believe you have a functional brain. Reread that exposition; this time slowly.

So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.

DoctorAlien:


Read 1 Jn. 5:14; James 4:3.

James 4:3 (NIV)

When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.

1 John 5:14 (NIV)

14 This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.

benzics:
How will the sun go down if it is not shining?
So the sun would Have to stop shining IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SKY so as to create darkness?

DoctorAlien:
Below is an exposition by Dr. Claude Mariottini.

In Hebrew, the word translated “stand still” literally means “be silent.” In this context, Joshua was commanding the sun “to be silent,” that is, to keep from shining.

benzics:


I thought you believe Jesus is God?



So you mean a common man like James or even John will tell you more about how God behaves than God himself??

DoctorAlien:
First of all, I use only the KJV, because it is the most correct translation of the Bible. Take note.



Be free from mental myopia.

American King James Version
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves on their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the middle of heaven, and hurried not to go down about a whole day.

King James 2000 Bible
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hastened not to go down about a whole day.

DoctorAlien:


But James wrote his letter under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. So, all the contents of his letter are in accordance with GOD's will.

benzics:

Actually, you are the one suffering from mental myopia.

I've read different versions and arrived at the intended conclusion, but you only read a certain version and ignore all others, isn't that myopic?

Well even your KJV says
I see no difference

DoctorAlien:
Below is an exposition by Dr. Claude Mariottini.

In Hebrew, the word translated “stand still” literally means “be silent.” In this context, Joshua was commanding the sun “to be silent,” that is, to keep from shining. Since the sun was rising in the east, his command to the sun was that it refrains from shining.

DoctorAlien:
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DoctorAlien:
Does any "freethinker" or, indeed, anybody have any meaningful objection(that is not strawman argument) to the argument contained in the OP?

benzics:

You understand that the above quote is coming from an Apologist born thousands of years after that passage was written, there was nowhere in the bible that signified Joshua prayed for darkness..

Unless an Apologist knows more about the bible than the writers themselves, same way James and John know more than Jesus

DoctorAlien:
Does any "freethinker" or, indeed, anybody have any meaningful objection(that is not strawman argument) to the argument contained in the OP?

benzics:

You understand that the above quote is coming from an Apologist born thousands of years after that passage was written, there was nowhere in the bible that signified Joshua prayed for darkness..

Unless an Apologist knows more about the bible than the writers themselves, same way James and John know more than Jesus

4kings:

benzics has served you already, and you are still requesting for more.

Have you read on how the various scriptures of the bible and apocrypha came about?

DoctorAlien:
First of all, I use only the KJV, because it is the most correct translation of the Bible. Take note.

4kings:

benzics has served you already, and you are still requesting for more.

Have you read on how the various scriptures of the bible and apocrypha came about?

AgentOfAllah:


On what authority is this fantastical claim made? Even more correct than the original Greek and Hebrew manuscripts upon which it is based?

DoctorAlien:
benzics, below is an exposition by Dr. Claude Mariottini.

In Hebrew, the word translated “stand still” literally means “be silent.” In this context, Joshua was commanding the sun “to be silent,” that is, to keep from shining. Since the sun was rising in the east, his command to the sun was that it refrains from shining.

When Joshua came to fight against the Amorites, he came at night and caught them by surprise. Joshua was aided by the darkness caused by a huge storm that produced hail so big that it killed many people. In fact, the biblical text says that more people died from the hailstones than the people of Israel killed with the sword.

Since the hailstorm did not affect the army of Israel, Joshua needed the storm to last so that the hail could continue decimating the army of the Amorites. Consequently, Joshua’s prayer was for more darkness (the continuation of the storm) and not for more light. The reason Joshua’s army did not kill many soldiers was because the storm prevailed most of that day.

DoctorAlien:


According to Richard Elliot Friedman, Prof. David Sperling and Rabbi were following the claims of archaeologists. Those archaeologists' claims that the exodus never happened are not based on evidence, but largely on its absence. The archaeologists claimed to have combed the Sinai and found no evidence for the exodus as stated in the Bible. Well, the claim is false, as no major excavations have been done in the Sinai, and it certainly has not been combed.

DoctorAlien:


Because you won't think before you talk, you did not see the word "translation" in my post.

dalaman:


Wow, such blatant lies and spin. This is the reason why people never take apologist seriously. The bible clearly says that the sun stood still and did not go down for a whole day. Even in churches people are taught that the sun stood still so that the Jews can see their enemies and kill them, but this deluded apologist of yours is saying that the sun standing still isn't what the bible means, standing still to him means silence which also means darkness. You are an unserious clown.

dalaman:


The same Richard Elliot Friedman admits that the exodus never happened as the bible says it did that's if it happened at all. His interview that was put up by KingEbukasBlog showed that the exodus is a myth because the exodus story alone was written in over a period of 500 years. He clearly admist in his interview that the story about 6 hundered thousand men(0ver 2 Million including women and kids) leaving Egypt as the bible puts it is non historical. It never happened, his theory is that a much less number of the Israelites left Egyptian during the Exodus and the one written inside the bible is a mythological embellishment.

DoctorAlien:


Can you prove that the Bible is not always true?
What do you know about the Bible and how it came to be?

Wilgrea7:


care to tell??
I'm all ears

4kings:
I asked you a simple question!!!

DoctorAlien:


The exodus definitely happened. It has been proven many times. You can look up "The Bible and Egypt" on the site "amazingdiscoveries.org"

DoctorAlien:


I have read them.

4kings:

Ok, let's start from the beginning.
What do you have to say about the similarities of the book of genesis and the ancient sumerian texts

DoctorAlien:


Those sumerian texts definitely plagiarized the teachings of the Patriarchs, starting from Adam, which was handed down orally from generation to generation, until Moses put them down in the book of Genesis.

Adam taught his son Seth about the living GOD, and how He created all that exists, and the might works which He has done. Seth taught his children, until Enoch, who taught Methuselah, until Noah, Abraham, and then until Moses, who wrote them down.

During the time the Patriarchs walked this earth, the pagans came in contact with them, and with their teachings. But they distorted them, and enshrouded them is fables.

CatfishBilly:

Do you even have proof for all these stuff you're spewing?

DoctorAlien:


Those sumerian texts definitely plagiarized the teachings of the Patriarchs, starting from Adam, which was handed down orally from generation to generation, until Moses put them down in the book of Genesis.

Adam taught his son Seth about the living GOD, and how He created all that exists, and the might works which He has done. Seth taught his children, until Enoch, who taught Methuselah, until Noah, Abraham, and then until Moses, who wrote them down.

During the time the Patriarchs walked this earth, the pagans came in contact with them, and with their teachings. But they distorted them, and enshrouded them is fables.

DoctorAlien:
4kings, follow the link below for answers to your question about the Pharoah that drowned.

[url]amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_archaeology_Egypt_Moses[/url]