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Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by intruxive(m): 2:07pm On Mar 31, 2017
I didnt read, am sure she is ipob and this thread was created to chest beat grin
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by jbhill(m): 2:11pm On Mar 31, 2017
sarrki:
following
thats not a statement,say something bruh.
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by jbhill(m): 2:13pm On Mar 31, 2017
intruxive:
I didnt read, am sure she is ipob and this thread was created to chest beat grin
rise above hate.
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by Nobody: 2:37pm On Mar 31, 2017
paschu:
Unfortunately the reality is that gun ban only prevents GOOD people to pursue self-defence. But it does not stop bad people from procuring guns. If it did, we would not have armed robbers and other terribly armed anti-social groups.

Thus a blanket ban on gun simply gives the bad guys a monopoly on violence; and makes the good people weak, vulnerable and cut off from self-defence.
No no no what about those countries who don't need guns to 'defend' themselves. Why should they want to defend themselves with guns when there are NO MEANS for the bad guys to get guns. Sure A FEW will find their way to BUT more people are dying from those guns from 'defending' themselves than they will be if there was a ban. Europe doesn't have such and their crimes are waaaaaaaaaay lower than that of the USA
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by AZeD1(m): 2:38pm On Mar 31, 2017
ttmacoy:
This is not advocating for guns to be allowed on campus or not, but saying no guns means you don't need to protect yourself isn't correct e.g. look at London where guns are not easily available yet knife killings persist. Also those criminals who really want one are still able to get guns though underground means.

While not at the level of the US, there has been an increase in gun shootings as well in London.
I said you don't need to protect yourself from someone with a gun.
You cannot eradicate crime so its best to limit it, now in London your best option is a knife and the question is can you enter a club and kill 30 people with a knife? No but with a semi - automatic, once you start shooting, even people with guns will duck before they remember they have a gun.
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by guychidile: 2:42pm On Mar 31, 2017
Anambra no dey carry last,you can see the archivements of late pro Dora Akunyiri..,senator Ekwunife the iron lady,mama Anambra and first female governor in Nigeria .,Dame V. Etiaba just to mention but a few.Anambra girls and ladies continue be the light to other girls.
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by ElsonMorali: 3:02pm On Mar 31, 2017
Idoko619:
Some thing must kill a man...wu wan die go die....its beta to b able t defend ursef dat bin killed like a chicken....
That's the Nigerian mentality. The state should be able to protect you. There's a reason you pay tax.

The society will turn to a lawless one If everyone is the prosecutor, the judge and the executioner.
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by oluwaahmed: 3:03pm On Mar 31, 2017
ElsonMorali:
Uhm... I like it when a Nigerian is making waves (good ones of course) outside the country.

But advocating for carrying concealed weapons in school campuses where it is known that there are lots of weed smokers is actually dumb dumb.

I pray she doesn't become a victim of what she's championing.
Anoda Afonja who probably went to OFA cheesy cheesy is tukin abt wat he doesn't know
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by ElsonMorali: 3:23pm On Mar 31, 2017
oluwaahmed:
Anoda Afonja who probably went to OFA cheesy cheesy is tukin abt wat he doesn't know
Pls pls pls, we are having an intellectual debate here.

It's either you stay outside this thread and watch from the window or you slink back into the slimy, puke-ridden, maggot-infested sewer from whence you came.
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by ziga: 3:44pm On Mar 31, 2017
Great achievement, but I'm sorry to say, she is not Nigerian. She is American.

She is smart and knows that Nigerians don't respect true intelligence or maturity.

That is why she is not contesting for a position in the SE of Nigeria!!!

That is why we are led by....
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by LordKushmann(m): 4:04pm On Mar 31, 2017
ElsonMorali:
Hasn't it occurred to you that the more there are guns in a location the more the possibility of gun related deaths?

Everybody is carrying a gun because they can afford or steal or borrow one.

Next stop is to start popping off each other for perceived insults or slights, real or imagined.
If that was the case, there'd be no one living in Finland as everyone there has a gun. What leads to gun violence is lack of tolerance and hatred. No matter how armed you are, you won't pop your blood relation. No matter how secure guns are, it won't stop you from popping someone you hate
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by ElsonMorali: 4:23pm On Mar 31, 2017
LordKushmann:
If that was the case, there'd be no one living in Finland as everyone there has a gun. What leads to gun violence is lack of tolerance and hatred. No matter how armed you are, you won't pop your blood relation. No matter how secure guns are, it won't stop you from popping someone you hate
Don't compare Finland with the United States.

When was the last time you heard of high school shootings or theatre shootings in Finland, besides majority of the guns owned by individuals or families in Finland are hunting rifles mainly kept in cabins.

Here, we are talking about relaxing the possession of guns in colleges and university campuses in a country notorious for school shootings and other forms of violence.

People will always hate each other and some people will always wish they had the means of gunning down the object of their hate.

It would be irresponsible for the government to make this means readily available.

The law right now restricts access and carriage of firearms by civilians and look at How unsafe their schools are.

Remove those legal restrictions and you'll have chaos.
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by ttmacoy: 4:25pm On Mar 31, 2017
Ok that's clearer.

Lol @ bolded, definitely.


AZeD1:
I said you don't need to protect yourself from someone with a gun.
You cannot eradicate crime so its best to limit it, now in London your best option is a knife and the question is can you enter a club and kill 30 people with a knife? No but with a semi - automatic, once you start shooting, even people with guns will duck before they remember they have a gun.
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by davidif: 4:58pm On Mar 31, 2017
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by Idoko619(m): 6:09pm On Mar 31, 2017
ElsonMorali:
That's the Nigerian mentality. The state should be able to protect you. There's a reason you pay tax.

The society will turn to a lawless one If everyone is the prosecutor, the judge and the executioner.
So dre is stl some 1 out dre dat beliv in d Govt!
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by ElsonMorali: 6:49pm On Mar 31, 2017
Idoko619:
So dre is stl some 1 out dre dat beliv in d Govt!
Go out and shoot someone and watch the government fry your ass. undecided
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by LordKushmann(m):
ElsonMorali:
Don't compare Finland with the United States.

When was the last time you heard of high school shootings or theatre shootings in Finland, besides majority of the guns owned by individuals or families in Finland are hunting rifles mainly kept in cabins.

Here, we are talking about relaxing the possession of guns in colleges and university campuses in a country notorious for school shootings and other forms of violence.

People will always hate each other and some people will always wish they had the means of gunning down the object of their hate.

It would be irresponsible for the government to make this means readily available.

The law right now restricts access and carriage of firearms by civilians and look at How unsafe their schools are.

Remove those legal restrictions and you'll have chaos.
You obviously haven't been watching the news as it concerns America. It's all about racial struggle. For centuries, white people have benefited from open carry regulations which sees it normal for a white guy to openly display a firearm so long as it's in open view but the same laws are biased against black people who get thrown in jail for possession of firearms and marijuana whereas white people don't get convicted for similar offences. With A. Okafor now, young black folks can be benefit from open carry regulations and won't be so defenseless when assailed by white folks. If you've been following the news, you can see increasing hostility towards black folks since the trump takeover. Hundreds of black folks are kidnapped and sold everyday especially young girls and no one is freaking out yet asking for nationwide search for the missing girls because they are not White, coupled with the hazards of being targets for organ harvesters who have commercialised black vital organs sold to the highest bidder. There is a war coming up, Okafor is just trying to make sure her people are not defenseless when it starts. She is Igbo and by nature, she is very concerned about the dignity of the Black man.
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by Whoeppme(m): 7:06pm On Mar 31, 2017
Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw39aaEZ8uQ

Antonia Okafor on Campus Carry
Nice video...very Educating
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by mikolo80: 7:08pm On Mar 31, 2017
ExplorerReturns:
who on earth is surprised by this news? WE ARE ALREADY THE MOST INTELLIGENT BLACK RACE IN THE WORLD







AFONJA
yet can't solve simple erosion problem
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by Nobody: 6:58am On Apr 01, 2017
ElsonMorali:
Uhm... I like it when a Nigerian is making waves (good ones of course) outside the country.

But advocating for carrying concealed weapons in school campuses where it is known that there are lots of weed smokers is actually dumb dumb.

I pray she doesn't become a victim of what she's championing.
Thing is....the bad guys will always get the guns....that is the most empirically demonstrable gun fact in history. You can only disarm the good and law-abiding citizens with laws. You can't disarm those who WANT to break the law.

Best to give power to the people to protect themselves cos u can't have law enforcement for everybody 24/7. Sounds like jungle justice? The world just became more 'junglier' grin fyi
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by Nobody: 7:01am On Apr 01, 2017
guychidile:
Anambra no dey carry last,you can see the archivements of late pro Dora Akunyiri..,senator Ekwunife the iron lady,mama Anambra and first female governor in Nigeria .,Dame V. Etiaba just to mention but a few.Anambra girls and ladies continue be the light to other girls.
But their marriage list no be here ooo grin
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by KingsleyCEO: 7:47am On Apr 01, 2017
Let me run before Biafra, Ipob and massob take over this place.

Wait o, is it that massob has gone into extinction? Or they have finally gotten small sense?
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by ElsonMorali: 8:19am On Apr 01, 2017
TheLordIsGr8:
Thing is....the bad guys will always get the guns....that is the most empirically demonstrable gun fact in history. You can only disarm the good and law-abiding citizens with laws. You can't disarm those who WANT to break the law.

Best to give power to the people to protect themselves cos u can't have law enforcement for everybody 24/7. Sounds like jungle justice? The world just became more 'junglier' grin fyi
So How does giving everybody guns stop people from killing each other?

Having a gun at home doesn't stop armed robbers from visiting?

Look at banks. They have armed personnel manning the doors, yet...

Saying that because you can't stop bad guys from access to gun so let everybody have access to gun so that they can protect themselves is a defeatist attitude, showing a government ready to abandon it's primary duty of protection of lives and properties.

Even the police won't be safe because everybody now carries a firearm.
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by Nobody: 8:32am On Apr 01, 2017
ElsonMorali:
So How does giving everybody guns stop people from killing each other?
And how does removing it from ONLY the law-abiding citizens stop people from killing each other? People kill with all knives. Please propose knife control.

ElsonMorali:
Having a gun at home doesn't stop armed robbers from visiting?
Having a police baracks next door doesn't stop them from coming if they know the police have no guns. If they knew you have guns....well...

ElsonMorali:
Look at banks. They have armed personnel manning the doors, yet...
Bank security advertize their defenses so the robbers plan in advance. A single unanticipated gun would be a game changer.

ElsonMorali:
Saying that because you can't stop bad guys from access to gun so let everybody have access to gun so that they can protect themselves is a defeatist attitude
Saying that everybody is simply going to kill each other so let us limit the casualties to the law-abiding citizens is a criminal attitude.

ElsonMorali:
showing a government ready to abandon it's primary duty of protection of lives and properties.
The primary duty of government is to protect law-abiding citizens. Not criminals

ElsonMorali:
Even the police won't be safe because everybody now carries a firearm.
Even now the police are unsafe. Just ask why your police unit doesn't respond to robbery situation. Guns.

Lastly, gun control doesn't work. Ask Anders Breivik of Norway.
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by ElsonMorali: 9:04am On Apr 01, 2017
[quote author=TheLordIsGr8 post=55153488]
And how does removing it from ONLY the law-abiding citizens stop people from killing each other? People kill with all knives. Please propose knife control.
So proposing a stricter and more stringent gun law is "removing it from ONLY the law abiding citizens"? undecided

You take a knife to school and you take a submachine gun or Uzi to school, Please compare the causality rates undecided

Having a police baracks next door doesn't stop them from coming if they know the police have no guns. If they knew you have guns....well...
I don't even know what you're trying time say here.

A police department located close to your house has no guns but your own house has and will deter armed robbers or killers assassin? Really? Like How many guns are we talking about here in your house alone?


Bank security advertize their defenses so the robbers plan in advance. A single unanticipated gun would be a game changer.
When everybody carries a gun, then whoever is going to attack you will work under the assumption that you're carrying a concealed weapon even If you aren't. So, an attack that you might have survived before everybody had access will now become fatal because the attacker presumes you are armed when you are not.


Saying that everybody is simply going to kill each other so let us limit the casualties to the law-abiding citizens is a criminal attitude.
How does arming everybody protect the law abiding citizen? In getting tried of this back and forth with you If I have to explain obvious stuff. That the states makes a law allowing everybody to carry a firearm doesn't mean that everybody can AFFORD one.

Have you tried purchasing a gun before? Do you know How much it costs including bullets and all?

Even If it works that way and everybody was able to afford a piece, How many people do you think will actually have the guts to fire their guns? How many do you think will have the expertise to actually hit their target? How many accidental discharged do you think will occur due to misfire and stray bullets? Are you aware that lots of people will settle their grievances with a gun because it is now available and within reach?

Have you thought of the increase in suicide rates that might otherwise have been prevented if there were just limited to overdose or the noose?

Just think of the possibilities.


The primary duty of government is to protect law-abiding citizens. Not criminals
The duty of the government is to protect everybody resident in that country.

It is only the courts who decide who is a criminal or not.

If this function is left to citizens who carry weapons about, you can imagine the number of innocent souls who will die because they have been prejudged and executed by"law abiding citizens" based on...?

There was a time being black in the US was a crime. There are all ripple effects of that even till today, and you want such a society to arm it's citizens?


Even now the police are unsafe. Just ask why your police unit doesn't respond to robbery situation. Guns.
So just imagine If everybody has a gun...

Lastly, gun control doesn't work. Ask Anders Breivik of Norway.
Then they should plug the loop holes and find a way to make it work. That is their job not mine. That's why they were elected in the first place.

If they can't do that job and would rather pass the buck to the citizens by arming them to protect themselves, then they need to resign.
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by Nobody: 9:25am On Apr 01, 2017
ElsonMorali:
Then they should plug the loop holes and find a way to make it work
New flash!!! There is just no way.

To keep looking for a way even when reality is telling a different thing is quite crazy (watch out for that defeatist attitude argument). But they can keep looking. Meanwhile they should allow people defend themselves.

The only way I see is if everybody loves one another. But good luck with that. Its the same reason why man, of himself, cannot achieve immortality. Because man wants man to die. Sad but true. But I digress.

The greatest obstacle to my being for gun control is that the people who make those laws have armed guards with big guns around 24/7. Puts them above the law if you ask me.

Give that up and I'm all for gun control.
What is good for the gender is good for the uganda grin
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by backtosender: 9:29am On Apr 01, 2017
She's IPOB product blood is ticker than water
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by paschu(op): 1:09pm On Apr 01, 2017
That girl is not an immigrant. She's a native born American with Igbo ancestory. Her parents may be immigrants, but she's not.

cstr151:
An igbo immigrant who is pro-gun?
If she has a good head on her shoulders, i expect the neo-cons to take advantage and market her.
Anything i don't see her going too far in the American politicosphere. Black people will never support such politics.
A poor man's Ben carson.
Re: Antonia Okafor Taking America's Political Scene By Storm by paschu(op): 1:26pm On Apr 01, 2017
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin ROTF


Dude, you just made my day. Thanks. Jeeez grin grin


TheLordIsGr8:
New flash!!! There is just no way.

To keep looking for a way even when reality is telling a different thing is quite crazy (watch out for that defeatist attitude argument). But they can keep looking. Meanwhile they should allow people defend themselves.

The only way I see is if everybody loves one another. But good luck with that. Its the same reason why man, of himself, cannot achieve immortality. Because man wants man to die. Sad but true. But I digress.

The greatest obstacle to my being for gun control is that the people who make those laws have armed guards with big guns around 24/7. Puts them above the law if you ask me.

Give that up and I'm all for gun control.
What is good for the gender is good for the uganda grin
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