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MrBrownJay1:
This thread is further proof how really DUMB some religious people are....and probably why they are so easy to brainwash into becoming follow-follow sheep

Atheist who dont believe there is a god should Prove that God exist bwaaaaaasaah. This is as clueless as saying that I don't believe in martians so I should prove they exist.

Wilgrea7:
I'm not a theist-atheist kind of person but i just want to clarify something....

the op's question “define God" is invalid except in some situations.... let me explain... its only valid when there is a misunderstanding between the theist and the atheist on the concept of “God".... but then... that's a wrong way to ask the question... it should rather be “what view of God are you talking about?"
basically... different people have different definitions for “God" cuz God is not a name but a title... some Christians/muslims/few other theists still view God as a white bearded man in the sky... others call “God" energy... some say the universe is God... some say the universe is the soul of God... basically, people have different views of God and different things they call “God"... majority of atheists are against the white bearded man mentality .... so a theist cannot tell an atheist to define God... the theist has to bring forth his own definition of God first... then maybe... if there is a misunderstanding in the discussion whereby the atheist seems to be arguing against a different view from the theist, then the theist can now ask the atheist to “define God(or better still... ask for the view of God he is arguing against)" so that the theist can understand the concept of God the atheist is arguing against and then correct it... let me give an instance

wilgrea7: i believe in God(christian/muslim)

atheist: i don't believe in God

in the above, the atheist must have understood the concept of the Christian/muslim God... then asking the atheist to define God would be a waste of time and a bad thing to do... cuz we both know the concept of God we're dealing with...

second scenario

wilgrea7: i believe in God(religion/faith not stated)

atheist: i don't believe in God..

wilgrea7:the universe is the soul of God
(atheist not understanding, then starts arguing against the white bearded view of God)

wilgrea7: define God(or better still) .. what view of God are you talking about

atheist: *lists his view*(white bearded man)

wilgrea7: that is not my view... i believe that all the galaxies etc are the soul of God.. i don't believe in the white bearded man view

atheist: (then understands and can now reject or argue against the panentheistic view)

note: the second scenario is very rare and only applies in case of misunderstanding.... however... the question “define God" is invalid... if there is a misunderstanding, the theist should ask “what view of God are you arguing against?".... again... only applies in case of misunderstanding...

Wilgrea7:
I'm not a theist-atheist kind of person but i just want to clarify something....

the op's question “define God" is invalid except in some situations.... let me explain... its only valid when there is a misunderstanding between the theist and the atheist on the concept of “God".... but then... that's a wrong way to ask the question... it should rather be “what view of God are you talking about?"
basically... different people have different definitions for “God" cuz God is not a name but a title... some Christians/muslims/few other theists still view God as a white bearded man in the sky... others call “God" energy... some say the universe is God... some say the universe is the soul of God... basically, people have different views of God and different things they call “God"... majority of atheists are against the white bearded man mentality .... so a theist cannot tell an atheist to define God... the theist has to bring forth his own definition of God first... then maybe... if there is a misunderstanding in the discussion whereby the atheist seems to be arguing against a different view from the theist, then the theist can now ask the atheist to “define God(or better still... ask for the view of God he is arguing against)" so that the theist can understand the concept of God the atheist is arguing against and then correct it... let me give an instance

wilgrea7: i believe in God(christian/muslim)

atheist: i don't believe in God

in the above, the atheist must have understood the concept of the Christian/muslim God... then asking the atheist to define God would be a waste of time and a bad thing to do... cuz we both know the concept of God we're dealing with...

second scenario

wilgrea7: i believe in God(religion/faith not stated)

atheist: i don't believe in God..

wilgrea7:the universe is the soul of God
(atheist not understanding, then starts arguing against the white bearded view of God)

wilgrea7: define God(or better still) .. what view of God are you talking about

atheist: *lists his view*(white bearded man)

wilgrea7: that is not my view... i believe that all the galaxies etc are the soul of God.. i don't believe in the white bearded man view

atheist: (then understands and can now reject or argue against the panentheistic view)

note: the second scenario is very rare and only applies in case of misunderstanding.... however... the question “define God" is invalid... if there is a misunderstanding, the theist should ask “what view of God are you arguing against?".... again... only applies in case of misunderstanding...

A88C:
fictional you call it.hope you know what that mean.you claim there is no GOD. you should be able to tell me what is god so i can measure and compare to what i understand by GOD. supposed i tell you nigeria is in europe [color=#009900]i should be able to identify nigeria map located within europe map[/color] and [color=#660033]if i can not it means i am not truthful[/color]

A88C:
from your post i can easily conclude you do not even know why you are an athiest. you said it is not true should you not be alble to provide what is the true. if i tell you lagos is in the north should i not be able to tell you where in the north lagos is located

A88C:
from your post i can easily conclude you do not even know why you are an athiest. you said it is not true should you not be alble to provide what is the true. if i tell you lagos is in the north should i not be able to tell you where in the north lagos is located

A88C:
from your post i can easily conclude you do not even know why you are an athiest. you said it is not true should you not be alble to provide what is the true. if i tell you lagos is in the north should i not be able to tell you where in the north lagos is located

johnydon22:
you are already failing in simple tenets of argument. You cannot make a proposition and ask someone who doubts your proposition to prove the negate.

the onus is on your who asserts the existence of a God to prove this not the person who doubts it.

now to demonstrate, there is a red cup on the table {image attached} now prove there isn't

Wilgrea7:
I'm not a theist-atheist kind of person but i just want to clarify something....

the op's question “define God" is invalid except in some situations.... let me explain... its only valid when there is a misunderstanding between the theist and the atheist on the concept of “God".... but then... that's a wrong way to ask the question... it should rather be “what view of God are you talking about?"
basically... different people have different definitions for “God" cuz God is not a name but a title... some Christians/muslims/few other theists still view God as a white bearded man in the sky... others call “God" energy... some say the universe is God... some say the universe is the soul of God... basically, people have different views of God and different things they call “God"... majority of atheists are against the white bearded man mentality .... so a theist cannot tell an atheist to define God... the theist has to bring forth his own definition of God first... then maybe... if there is a misunderstanding in the discussion whereby the atheist seems to be arguing against a different view from the theist, then the theist can now ask the atheist to “define God(or better still... ask for the view of God he is arguing against)" so that the theist can understand the concept of God the atheist is arguing against and then correct it... let me give an instance

wilgrea7: i believe in God(christian/muslim)

atheist: i don't believe in God

in the above, the atheist must have understood the concept of the Christian/muslim God... then asking the atheist to define God would be a waste of time and a bad thing to do... cuz we both know the concept of God we're dealing with...

second scenario

wilgrea7: i believe in God(religion/faith not stated)

atheist: i don't believe in God..

wilgrea7:the universe is the soul of God
(atheist not understanding, then starts arguing against the white bearded view of God)

wilgrea7: define God(or better still) .. what view of God are you talking about

atheist: *lists his view*(white bearded man)

wilgrea7: that is not my view... i believe that all the galaxies etc are the soul of God.. i don't believe in the white bearded man view

atheist: (then understands and can now reject or argue against the panentheistic view)

note: the second scenario is very rare and only applies in case of misunderstanding.... however... the question “define God" is invalid... if there is a misunderstanding, the theist should ask “what view of God are you arguing against?".... again... only applies in case of misunderstanding...

MrBrownJay1:
NONSENSE!!!!
I say there is NO GOD, and if you say there is a god then YOU should be proving that there is one.... Not me, duh!
This is simple logic.

But if you want proof, here is one: if there was indeed a BS god then there wouldn't be so many innocent children dying in the world. So much suffering or so many dumbass in church being defrauded by these criminals in robe. Dwell on that!

A88C:
fantastic.simple logic you can give what you dont know.becuse you do not see GOD does not mean he did not exist or is absence of an idea equal to an extablished fact. why are some children suffrng？ do you know what is call test？ this is part of what make us human. in school some are privilledge to be more smarter than the other even if they are taught under the same condition and do you still no why？ it is called test. i will post more enlightment on test soon

CatfishBilly:
Concudee has defined god for you naa, tackle it.

A88C:
pls repost it

God is a/an entity/word/ used by the primitives to explain incomprehensible events

A88C:
pls repost it

A88C:
1 DEFINE GOD？
This question may sound absurd to him but it is logical （example）if i argue that this is not a religious thread.i should be able to give an understanding of what is expected of a religious thread.

ask them to define God and you will realised they have less to say but much to argue.

2ask them personally to tell you how they belive GOD do not exist personally not using a generic argument.

you will realised again they will have less to say but much to argue.

THE BELIVER CAN ADD MORE WHILE THE THREAD IS OPEN FOR A DEBATE WITH AN ATHIEST

CatfishBilly:
Does ugbelegbele exist ?
Please answer

A88C:
you mean you can not defined what is not real.then you should be able to tell us what it should be if it is real. i have no problem of,whom GOD IS YOU DO

A88C:
fantastic.simple logic you can give what you dont know.becuse you do not see GOD does not mean he did not exist or is absence of an idea equal to an extablished fact. why are some children suffrng？ do you know what is call test？ this is part of what make us human. in school some are privilledge to be more smarter than the other even if they are taught under the same condition and do you still no why？ it is called test. i will post more enlightment on test soon

A88C:
catfish belly. GOD do not exist you say,then you should be able to tell me what is GOD if he did not exist as you claim.you must have gotten a proper understanding of whom GOD should be if he exist.or should i assume you have less to say but much to argue .

A88C:
i understand athiest verywell, mind you the topic says two question to end a debate with an athiest. YOU HAVE LESS TO SAY BUT MUCH TO ARGUE and that is whom you are .

A88C:
ATHIEST HAVE LESS TO SAY BUT MUCH TO ARGUE. if you can not answer the above question dont expect me to help you. i HAVE MUCH TO SAY BUT LESS TO ARGUE. let it marinate

A88C:

CatfishBilly post=55265081:
Then, I guess this thread is dead on arrivalOr, does ugbelegbele exist?

YOU HAVE LESS TO SAY BUT MUCH TO ARGUE .

Wilgrea7:
I'm not a theist-atheist kind of person but i just want to clarify something....

the op's question “define God" is invalid except in some situations.... let me explain... its only valid when there is a misunderstanding between the theist and the atheist on the concept of “God".... but then... that's a wrong way to ask the question... it should rather be “what view of God are you talking about?"
basically... different people have different definitions for “God" cuz God is not a name but a title... some Christians/muslims/few other theists still view God as a white bearded man in the sky... others call “God" energy... some say the universe is God... some say the universe is the soul of God... basically, people have different views of God and different things they call “God"... majority of atheists are against the white bearded man mentality .... so a theist cannot tell an atheist to define God... the theist has to bring forth his own definition of God first... then maybe... if there is a misunderstanding in the discussion whereby the atheist seems to be arguing against a different view from the theist, then the theist can now ask the atheist to “define God(or better still... ask for the view of God he is arguing against)" so that the theist can understand the concept of God the atheist is arguing against and then correct it... let me give an instance

wilgrea7: i believe in God(christian/muslim)

atheist: i don't believe in God

in the above, the atheist must have understood the concept of the Christian/muslim God... then asking the atheist to define God would be a waste of time and a bad thing to do... cuz we both know the concept of God we're dealing with...

second scenario

wilgrea7: i believe in God(religion/faith not stated)

atheist: i don't believe in God..

wilgrea7:the universe is the soul of God
(atheist not understanding, then starts arguing against the white bearded view of God)

wilgrea7: define God(or better still) .. what view of God are you talking about

atheist: *lists his view*(white bearded man)

wilgrea7: that is not my view... i believe that all the galaxies etc are the soul of God.. i don't believe in the white bearded man view

atheist: (then understands and can now reject or argue against the panentheistic view)

note: the second scenario is very rare and only applies in case of misunderstanding.... however... the question “define God" is invalid... if there is a misunderstanding, the theist should ask “what view of God are you arguing against?".... again... only applies in case of misunderstanding...

A88C:
1 DEFINE GOD？This question may sound absurd to him but it is logical （example）if i argue that this is not a religious thread.
i should be able to give an understanding of what is expected of a religious thread.

ask them to define God and you will realised they have less to say but much to argue.

2ask them personally to tell you how they believe GOD does not exist personally not using a generic argument.

you will realised again they will have less to say but much to argue.

THE BELIVER CAN ADD MORE WHILE THE THREAD IS OPEN FOR A DEBATE WITH AN ATHIEST

CatfishBilly:
You can't tell me to define what I don't believe in

CatfishBilly:
You say God exists, the onus is on you to define, then we'll tackle your definition of God.

What you're doing now is onus probandi (shifting the burden of proof)

A88C:
catfish belly. GOD do not exist you say, then you should be able to tell me what is GOD if he did not exist as you claim.
you must have gotten a proper understanding of whom GOD should be if he exist.
or should i assume you have less to say but much to argue.

CatfishBilly:
If I say a fictional animal ugbelegbele exists, you'll say no,
and I ask you to define ugbelegbele, it doesn't make sense right?
Same thing asking me to define God who I say doesn't exist.

A88C:
if i may conclude no athiest has been able to define whom is GOD.

coolgee26:
Let's get going Mr Man

God is a/an entity/word/ used by the primitives to explain incomprehensible events

coolgee26:
If the definition isn't convincing, provide yours since you claim to know the right and appropriate definition

coolgee26:
At least, attempt was made....

coolgee26:
If this thread pass page 2 with definition of god from religious fellas, make una cut my d!ck

CatfishBilly:
Okay, MuttleyLaff and A88C, I'll bite.
God is a concept created by humans to explain what they can't explain.
Here, you have it.

A88C:
1 DEFINE GOD？
This question may sound absurd to him but it is logical （example）if i argue that this is not a religious thread.i should be able to give an understanding of what is expected of a religious thread.

ask them to define God and you will realised they have less to say but much to argue.

2ask them personally to tell you how they belive GOD do not exist personally not using a generic argument.

you will realised again they will have less to say but much to argue.

THE BELIVER CAN ADD MORE WHILE THE THREAD IS OPEN FOR A DEBATE WITH AN ATHIEST