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pascal558:
sure u can,I enjoy interracting with guys from the otherside

I really av time for dis now and I love u for not arguing that's what I don't like instead u bring up another topic
Open ur bible and read what's in (mathew 21:10-11)

hazan041:
Tell me where u pple go to worship just as we have makkah. What's d diffrence btw a church and a studio abeg?

we don't have a place of worship,anywhere is a place of worshipp,the bible say where 2 or three are gathered He is in their midst that is y u can see churches in vacant class rooms,unnder mango trees e.t.c. And as for the studio nd church I knw u said that because of the intruments in churches,but little did u knw that God actually loved them, if not the isrealites of. Old would nt have to use tamborines,david won't have to play his harp as he sings nd dance to the Lord,so when the church has instruments its to worship the lord just like the isrealite did with various instruments available at their time!!!

pascal558:
we don't have a place of worship,anywhere is a place of worshipp,the bible say where 2 or three are gathered He is in their midst that is y u can see churches in vacant class rooms,unnder mango trees e.t.c. And as for the studio nd church I knw u said that because of the intruments in churches,but little did u knw that God actually loved them, if not the isrealites of. Old would nt have to use tamborines,david won't have to play his harp as he sings nd dance to the Lord,so when the church has instruments its to worship the lord just like the isrealite did with various instruments available at their time!!!

I now see why u only go and dance in church thinking u are woshiping! Jesus(your god our Prophet) didn't get married so where u take see how to get marry in Christianity abeg or no be jesus u dey follow?

hazan041:
I really av time for dis now and I love u for not arguing that's what I don't like instead u bring up another topic
Open ur bible and read what's in (mathew 21:10-11)

When Jesus entered Jerusalem, the
whole city was stirred and asked, “Who is
this?”
The crowds answered, “This is Jesus,
the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee.”
10
11

pascal558:
When Jesus entered Jerusalem, the
whole city was stirred and asked, “Who is
this?”
The crowds answered, “This is Jesus,
the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee.”
10
11

Even though u are not using the original bible it still indicate he's a prophet now tell me how did he turned out to be God?
Your last question for tonight pls its late but answer mine first

hazan041:
I now see why u only go and dance in church thinking u are woshiping! Jesus(your god our Prophet) didn't get married so where u take see how to get marry in Christianity abeg or no be jesus u dey follow?

Jesus never got married but he taaught about marriage severally in the scripture,for this cause a man shall leave his parents nd cling unto his wife and they shall become one,Jesus knnew the task ahead of him and his purpose here was not to come and populate the earth just as u nd I have different purpose for comming to this earth but severally in the scripture he taught abt marriage,abt family and all nd this will shock u that think heaven is a place. Of seven virgins,when the pharisees asked Jesus who owns a woman among to brothers who married her her on earth, who will now be her real husband in heaven??the reply of Jesus to them already shows that heaven is not a place for marriage or sex or 7virgins

pascal558:
from all u just quoted its seems u support the killings nd u are using the bible of same christians u kill as a guide,ok let me ask u a question do u know why Jesus was killed by the Jew(his own) in the first place? Cos he fought against most of those things nd wanted to bring a change and that's the change christians celebrate today,how will u take something u can't give all in the name of religion life is precious no matter who is involved ,I had to post this cos am sick of streaming youtube to see poeple beheaded!!!tell your muslim brothers to turn away from those evil acts...

..The post is to let you know that you just don't quote the two scriptures(bible and quran) anyhow.I was expecting you Christians to come and explain why those bible verses I quoted don't mean a green card to kill people so it can be used to justify the need for you also to search objectively for the explanations to those quran verses which were purposely quoted by the OP to demonize islam from the islamic scholars.

pascal558:
Jesus never got married but he taaught about marriage severally in the scripture,for this cause a man shall leave his parents nd cling unto his wife and they shall become one,Jesus knnew the task ahead of him and his purpose here was not to come and populate the earth just as u nd I have different purpose for comming to this earth but severally in the scripture he taught abt marriage,abt family and all nd this will shock u that think heaven is a place. Of seven virgins,when the pharisees asked Jesus who owns a woman among to brothers who married her her on earth, who will now be her real husband in heaven??the reply of Jesus to them already shows that heaven is not a place for marriage or sex or 7virgins

U can't answer without making errors u tried sha I've faced sum more pple like u before

hazan041:
Even though u are not using the original bible it still indicate he's a prophet now tell me how did he turned out to be God?
Your last question for tonight pls its late but answer mine first

looool was that response from Jesus of from the crowd?the bible call every believer a god,I taught u followed the old testament,its in the book of psalm 'ye are gods,the children of the most high" ..to clear ur question go nd readup the baptism of Jesus christ if u believe the crowd called him a prophet in the book of mathew that same book talked about how he was baptised nd how a voice from heaven said "this is my beloved sonn inn whom I am well pleased" what other proof do u need to show He is the son... Nd did ur quran not call him THE WORD OF GOD?

pascal558:
looool was that response from Jesus of from the crowd?the bible call every believer a god,I taught u followed the old testament,its in the book of psalm 'ye are gods,the children of the most high" ..to clear ur question go nd readup the baptism of Jesus christ if u believe the crowd called him a prophet in the book of mathew that same book talked about how he was baptised nd how a voice from heaven said "this is my beloved sonn inn whom I am well pleased" what other proof do u need to show He is the son... Nd did ur quran not call him THE WORD OF GOD?

Every worshipper is a god meaning u ar a god too?
And being word of God means he's d Almighty God? Reason even if for once "word of God" meaning there is a superior over him which is d God

Basic123:
..The post is to let you know that you just don't quote the two scriptures(bible and quran) anyhow.I was expecting you Christians to come and explain why those bible verses I quoted don't mean a green card to kill people so it can be used to justify the need for you also to search objectively for the explanations to those quran verses which were purposely quoted by the OP to demonize islam from the islamic scholars.

do u knw christianity is different from judaism but where both born out of isreal.... Do u knw the jew still hold on to the old testament doctrine of an eye for an eye nd don't go close to uncircuncised cos the are unclean nd sinners,fight nd e.t.c but christianity on the other hand Jesus taught us to pray for our enimies,turn the other side of ur cheek for someone who already slapped one side,so my brother when u guys post scriptures learn abt it firstly by knowing the meaning nd to whom the word was intended to so u won sounnd off track

hazan041:
Every worshipper is a god meaning u ar a god too?
And being word of God means he's d Almighty God? Reason even if for once "word of God" meaning there is a superior over him which is d God

if Jesus is the word of God then will u agree with me that He have been with God even b4 creation?

pascal558:
do u knw christianity is different from judaism but where both born out of isreal.... Do u knw the jew still hold on to the old testament doctrine of an eye for an eye nd don't go close to uncircuncised cos the are unclean nd sinners,fight nd e.t.c but christianity on the other hand Jesus taught us to pray for our enimies,turn the other side of ur cheek for someone who already slapped one side,so my brother when u guys post scriptures learn abt it firstly by knowing the meaning nd to whom the word was intended to so u won sounnd off track

Now you are trying to explain.if I tell you the explanation to the verses posted by the OP to demonize islam which is the reason why me as a muslim have not killed my Christian aunt,cousin and friends,will you agree?...I doubt it if you will agree due to your grandplan of demonizing and stereotyping islam as part of your overt christianization agenda which the muslims are very much aware of.

So,when you guys post to demonize islam,learn about it first by know the reasons for revelations and its meaning!!!!...

pascal558:
if Jesus is the word of God then will u agree with me that He have been with God even b4 creation?

Hell no! What if God didn't alter a word until his creation? Hmmm....and that God who is he?
Its late I need to sleep drop ur question or any area of confusion ill get back to u tomao! Sleep well dear!

Yes I am a god unto this earth cos after creation God gave man power over everything on earth it was the sin of Adam nd Eve that seperated us from that promise but Jesus came as a bridge to reunite us... The bible say we where made in the image nd likeness of God,so when u say peter is like his father what does that mean,it simply means peter is not his father but he has all the atributes of his fathe like his height,talks like his father,skin colour e.t.c that's just how u nd I posses the atribute of God but many of us are ignorant of that just like a child...when a child is young he can get boxed around by even the house girl in his fathers house but when that child matures he now knw this is my fathers house nd I should take orders from no one,that's how ignorant many are today,they don knw who they are cos if they do they won't have. To kill. Another brother who does not believe in what the believe cos the will now understand that we are from one father

hazan041:
Hell no! What if God didn't alter a word until his creation? Hmmm....and that God who is he?
Its late I need to sleep drop ur question or any area of confusion ill get back to u tomao! Sleep well dear!

there are things I won't like to discuss nd that's the nature of God,He is too big for me to discuss abt him so am nt gona talk about anything that happened bs creation though I have an answer to that....see u 2morow then sleep well my friend!!

Basic123:
Now you are trying to explain.if I tell you the explanation to the verses posted by the OP to demonize islam which is the reason why me as a muslim have not killed my Christian aunt,cousin and friends,will you agree?

So,when you guys post to demonize islam,learn about it first by know the reasons for revelations and its meaning!!!!

that's because u not a true follower of islam,In times of war then u will knw a muslim can never be your friend u will see the begger u usually give alms to who is a cripple shooting arrows at u,the sharia war in kaduna is a good example of it,even soldier that where surpose to make peace at that time fuelled it all when christian running for their lives saw an army person they run to them for safety but what happen at the the The muslim soldiers joined in the killing to....y have the fulani herdsmen nt been arrested or attacked just like the niger delta militants Cos the president is a muslim nd the killings to him is normal but kill 1herdman u will see the house of assembly debating on it,goes to show muslims enjoy seeing others suffer ask shekau y he is killing today what u sill hear him say is HOLY WAR

pascal558:
that's because u not a true follower of islam,In times of war then u will knw a muslim can never be your friend u will see the begger u usually give alms to who is a cripple shooting arrows at u,the sharia war in kaduna is a good example of it,even soldier that where surpose to make peace at that time fuelled it all when christian running for their lives saw an army person they run to them for safety but what happen at the the The muslim soldiers joined in the killing to....y have the fulani herdsmen nt been arrested or attacked just like the niger delta militants Cos the president is a muslim nd the killings to him is normal but kill 1herdman u will see the house of assembly debating on it,goes to show muslims enjoy seeing others suffer ask shekau y he is killing today what u sill hear him say is HOLY WAR

Lolz,typical of a Christian,shallow,bigot,hypocritical and myopic thought.He is telling how islamic i'm.if I tell you the
explanation to the verses posted by the OP to
demonize islam which is the reason why me as a
muslim have not killed my Christian aunt,cousin and
friends,will you agree?...I doubt it if you will agree due
to your grandplan of demonizing and stereotyping
islam as part of your overt christianization agenda
which the muslims are very much aware of.
So,when you guys post to demonize islam,learn about
it first by know the reasons for revelations and its
meaning!!!!...

for your information.No religion has a monopoly of violence.Both Christianity and islam have had their own share of violent extreme individual both now and in the past.See these:

Mission
Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) in 782 had 4500 Saxons,
unwilling to convert to Christianity, beheaded. [DO30]
Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay
suffocating church taxes: between 5,000 and 11,000
men, women and children slain 5/27/1234 near
Altenesch/Germany. [WW223]
Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered.
[DO235]
15th century Poland: 1019 churches and 17987 villages
plundered by Knights of the Order. Victims unknown.
[DO30]
16th and 17th century Ireland. English troops "pacified
and civilized" Ireland, where only Gaelic "wild Irish",
"unreasonable beasts lived without any knowledge of
God or good manners, in common of their goods, cattle,
women, children and every other thing." One of the more
successful soldiers, a certain Humphrey Gilbert, half-
brother of Sir Walter Raleigh, ordered that "the heddes
of all those (of what sort soever thei were) which were
killed in the daie, should be cutte off from their
bodies... and should bee laied on the ground by eche
side of the waie", which effort to civilize the Irish
indeed caused "greate terrour to the people when thei
sawe the heddes of their dedde fathers, brothers,
children, kinsfolke, and freinds on the grounde".
Tens of thousands of Gaelic Irish fell victim to the
carnage. [SH99, 225]
Crusades (1095-1291)

Crusades (1095-1291) First Crusade: 1095 on command of pope Urban II. [WW11-41] Semlin/Hungary 6/24/96 thousands slain. Wieselburg/ Hungary 6/12/96 thousands. [WW23] 9/9/96-9/26/96 Nikaia, Xerigordon (then turkish), thousands respectively. [WW25-27] Until Jan 1098 a total of 40 capital cities and 200 castles conquered (number of slain unknown) [WW30] after 6/3/98 Antiochia (then turkish) conquered, between 10,000 and 60,000 slain. 6/28/98 100,000 Turks (incl. women & children) killed. [WW32-35] Here the Christians "did no other harm to the women found in [the enemy's] tents—save that they ran their lances through their bellies," according to Christian chronicler Fulcher of Chartres. [EC60] Marra (Maraat an-numan) 12/11/98 thousands killed. Because of the subsequent famine "the already stinking corpses of the enemies were eaten by the Christians" said chronicler Albert Aquensis. [WW36] Jerusalem conquered 7/15/1099 more than 60,000 victims (jewish, muslim, men, women, children). [WW37-40] (In the words of one witness: "there [in front of Solomon's temple] was such a carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood of our foes", and after that "happily and crying for joy our people marched to our Saviour's tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of gratitude" The Archbishop of Tyre, eye-witness, wrote: "It was impossible to look upon the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay fragments of human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of the slain. It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated limbs strewn in all directions that roused the horror of all who looked upon them. Still more dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping with blood from head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who met them. It is reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels perished." [TG79] Christian chronicler Eckehard of Aura noted that "even the following summer in all of palestine the air was polluted by the stench of decomposition". One million victims of the first crusade alone. [WW41] Battle of Askalon, 8/12/1099. 200,000 heathens slaughtered "in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ". [WW45] Fourth crusade: 4/12/1204 Constantinople sacked, number of victims unknown, numerous thousands, many of them Christian. [WW141-148] Rest of Crusades in less detail: until the fall of Akkon 1291 probably 20 million victims (in the Holy land and Arab/Turkish areas alone). [WW224] Note:

Basic123:
Lolz,typical of a Christian,shallow,bigot,hypocritical and myopic thought.He is telling how islamic i'm.if I tell you the
explanation to the verses posted by the OP to
demonize islam which is the reason why me as a
muslim have not killed my Christian aunt,cousin and
friends,will you agree?...I doubt it if you will agree due
to your grandplan of demonizing and stereotyping
islam as part of your overt christianization agenda
which the muslims are very much aware of.
So,when you guys post to demonize islam,learn about
it first by know the reasons for revelations and its
meaning!!!!...

like as I said earlier muslims are friends of muslims only others they can kill,imagine a man killed nd bury his wife for attending a church invitation,he did not stop there he buried her kids with her calling them abormination with ur long sightedness since christians are short sighted in front of u does that make sense?? Ur parents get angry when they see ur daughters with us but or parents allow our daughters marry ur sons hoping that one day God will change the man gradually but ur case is different everything must be by force!

Religious Wars 15th century: Crusades against Hussites, thousands slain. [DO30]

1538 pope Paul III declared Crusade against apostate England and all English as slaves of Church (fortunately had not power to go into action).
[DO31] 1568 Spanish Inquisition Tribunal ordered extermination of 3 million rebels in (then Spanish) Netherlands. Thousands were actually slain.

[DO31] 1572 In France about 20,000 Huguenots were killed on command of pope Pius V. Until 17th century 200,000 flee.

[DO31] 17th century: Catholics slay Gaspard de Coligny, a Protestant leader. After murdering him, the Catholic mob mutilated his body, "cutting off his head, his hands, and his genitals... and then dumped him into the river [...but] then, deciding that it was not worthy of being food for the fish, they hauled it out again [... and] dragged what was left ... to the gallows of Montfaulcon, 'to be meat and carrion for maggots and crows'."

[SH191] 17th century: Catholics sack the city of Magdeburg/ Germany: roughly 30,000 Protestants were slain. "In a single church fifty women were found beheaded," reported poet Friedrich Schiller, "and infants still sucking the breasts of their lifeless mothers." [SH191] 17th century 30 years' war (Catholic vs. Protestant): at least 40% of population decimated, mostly in Germany. [DO31-32] Jews

pascal558:
like as I said earlier muslims are friends of muslims only others they can kill,imagine a man killed nd bury his wife for attending a church invitation,he did not stop there he buried her kids with her calling them abormination with ur long sightedness since christians are short sighted in front of u does that make sense?? Ur parents get angry when they see ur daughters with us but or parents allow our daughters marry ur sons hoping that one day God will change the man gradually but ur case is different everything must be by force!

Forget it,you Christians are doing worse.I have Christians relatives.It is just that we Muslims don't publicize it perhaps due the fact that we are not interested in demonizing you guys or your being educationally advantaged give you the opportunity of being in control of the media.

The history line u posted have read over nd over again,its just a copy nd paste I see every muslims using to defend their religion..y don't u say the truth for once ?if something is bad u dnt defend it u say it out!! Nd for u to think am trying to demonlize islam is an understatement cos if that was my intention I would go online download videos,open a blog,youtube chanel,facebook page nd even pay for jinggles on TV just to tell the world how bad islam is,but what will I benefit at the end? Nothing!! So ur accusation is false ,just got tired of seeing xtianns burnt or beheaded on my screen!

20th Century Church Atrocities
Catholic extermination camps Surpisingly few know that Nazi extermination camps in World War II were by no means the only ones in Europe at the time. In the years 1942-1943 also in Croatia existed numerous extermination camps, run by Catholic Ustasha under their dictator Ante Paveli, a practising Catholic and regular visitor to the then pope.
There were even concentration camps exclusively for children! In these camps - the most notorious was Jasenovac, headed by a Franciscan friar - orthodox-Christian serbians (and a substantial number of Jews) were murdered. Like the Nazis the Catholic Ustasha burned their victims in kilns, alive (the Nazis were decent enough to have their victims gassed first). But most of the victims were simply stabbed, slain or shot to death, the number of them being estimated between 300,000 and 600,000, in a rather tiny country. Many of the killers were Franciscan friars.

The atrocities were appalling enough to induce bystanders of the Nazi "Sicherheitsdient der SS", watching, to complain about them to Hitler (who did not listen). The pope knew about these events and did nothing to prevent them. [MV] Catholic terror in Vietnam.

In 1954 Vietnamese freedom fighters - the Viet Minh - had finally defeated the French colonial government in North Vietnam, which by then had been supported by U.S. funds amounting to more than $2 billion. Although the victorious assured religious freedom to all (most non-buddhist Vietnamese were Catholics), due to huge anticommunist propaganda campaigns many Catholics fled to the South. With the help of Catholic lobbies in Washington and Cardinal Spellman, the Vatican's spokesman in U.S. politics, who later on would call the U.S. forces in Vietnam "Soldiers of Christ", a scheme was concocted to prevent democratic elections which could have brought the communist Viet Minh to power in the South as well, and the fanatic Catholic Ngo Dinh Diem was made president of South Vietnam. [MW16ff] Diem saw to it that U.S. aid, food, technical and general assistance was given to Catholics alone, Buddhist individuals and villages were ignored or had to pay for the food aids which were given to Catholics for free. The only religious denomination to be supported was Roman Catholicism.

The Vietnamese McCarthyism turned even more vicious than its American counterpart. By 1956 Diem promulgated a presidential order which read: "Individuals considered dangerous to the national defense and common security may be confined by executive order, to a concentration camp. "

Supposedly to fight communism, thousands of buddhist protesters and monks were imprisoned in "detention camps." Out of protest dozens of buddhist teachers - male and female - and monks poured gasoline over themselves and burned themselves. ( Note that Buddhists burned themselves: in comparison Christians tend to burn others ).


Meanwhile some of the prison camps, which in the meantime were filled with Protestant and even Catholic protesters as well, had turned into no-nonsense death camps. It is estimated that during this period of terror (1955-1960) at least 24,000 were wounded - mostly in street riots - 80,000 people were executed, 275,000 had been detained or tortured, and about 500,000 were sent to concentration or detention camps. [MW76-89].


To support this kind of government in the next decade thousands of American GI's lost their life....

Basic123:
Forget it,you Christians are doing worse.I have Christians relatives.It is just that we Muslims don't publicize it perhaps due the fact that we are not interested in demonizing you guys or your being educationally advantaged give you the opportunity of being in control of the media.

education is thesame reason we acting civilized nd keeping calm,just imagined it was the other way round that christians where killing a muslim By now I trust the muslims cos they won't exitate to go to war!!

pascal558:
The history line u posted have read over nd over again,its just a copy nd paste I see every muslims using to defend their religion..y don't u say the truth for once ?if something is bad u dnt defend it u say it out!! Nd for u to think am trying to demonlize islam is an understatement cos if that was my intention I would go online download videos,open a blog,youtube chanel,facebook page nd even pay for jinggles on TV just to tell the world how bad islam is,but what will I benefit at the end? Nothing!! So ur accusation is false ,just got tired of seeing xtianns burnt or beheaded on my screen!

lolz......The phrase "copy and paste" is the only thing you guyz is also using to defend those historical act of terrorism by Christianity.


Anyway,you are carrying out the demonization agenda in your own little capacity here on nairaland.Your brothers are handling other platforms in their own capacity because its a grand plan which the muslims are very much aware of.

pascal558:
education is thesame reason we acting civilized nd keeping calm,just imagined it was the other way round that christians where killing a muslim By now I trust the muslims cos they won't exitate to go to war!!

lolz....it is that same education that made you to commit those historical grand-scale act of terrorism.

#demonizing to Christianize.....we are aware of it.we will see how successful you will be with it.

hazan041:
Is this d right section? Even though its meaningless

Real meaningless aswear, Op who told u that Muslims are the terrorists? Thou I don't knw ur state of origin n also don't knw d states u've visited if I would've let u knw what's missin upstairs. So I rest my case

Basic123:
lolz....it is that same education that made you to commit those historical grand-scale act of terrorism.

#demonizing to Christianize.....we are aware of it.we will see how successful you will be with it.

Emir of Kano, Muhammadu Sanusi II, has said
that should Nigerian be broken into smaller
components today, the northern part of the
country would be the poorest of the regions.
The Emir also urged Muslims to imbibe and
adopt western education and stop using
religion and culture to set the region backward.
Emir Sanusi said this in his key note address
during the opening ceremony of Kaduna State’s
investment ands economic summit
(KADINVEST), titled ‘Promoting Investment
Amidst Economic Challenges’.
The emir then urged that it would be wrong to
mirror living standard in the north in line with
the oil rich Niger Delta, commercially viable
Lagos and business oriented south-east.
He also said that the North East and West are
the most poorest in the country and even in
the world.
Other Muslim countries have pushed on. We
are fighting culture, we are fighting civilisation.
You tell me that you should not write love book
in northern Nigerian. He also says it is wrong to
burn books of science based on religion.
“What is the crime of those books?” he asks.
Going further, he questioned the right of
people in having more children in the region
without having the resource to take care of
them.
“Of what benefit is it to the north, having three
million children roaming about?” he asks.
.
.
That's the Emir talking,everyone is begining to see that islam spells darkness nd babarism...

othman11:
You need to be flogged @op....The Quran never said that. Stop spreading False information

Ignorant, ppl lyk op are called EBUGI 4mah language.

pascal558:
this is not about looking for trouble,its about telling ourselves the truth without guiding it by sentiment,everyday u hear terrorist attacks on tv,today its america,2morrow france,nigeria,turkey,belgium nd all are from a single set of people...nd out of curiosity I just found out that its neva gona end cos they born to be killers,study ur quran properly nd tell me what u knw about the holy war!!

abeg siddan jare