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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by stonemasonn: 6:25am On Apr 06, 2017
Dear OP, the southerners had the opportunity to dominate under OBJ and GEJ. OBJ tried a little but still played into the hands of the north. I don't want to sound tribalistic but GEJ was worst. The southerners must elect a fearless and just nationalist when power rotates back to the south else forget southern unity.
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by ConqueredWest: 6:39am On Apr 06, 2017
kingzizzy:
Asking Igbos and Yorubas to unite is like asking oil and water to mix, not possible. The problem the OP has is that he is still trying to see Igbo/Yoruba from the context of 'Nigeria'

To understand why Yoruba and Igbo will never unite, one has to go back to when there was no Nigeria. What kind of people were Igbos and Yorubas?

History tells us that the Yorubas have never been able to exist alone. They once chased an empire from present day Nigeria to Togo. This 'empire creating' nature of Yorubas has never left them. Igbos on the other hand never had an empire and had no desire have one. The Igbo man is republican, egalitarian and very independent.

Unfortunately for Igbos, of the 3 main ethnic groups, Igbos are the only ones who are not empire creators and thats why Yorubas will continually unite with the Hausa/Fulani oligarchy of the North to undemine Igbos.

Yorubas and Hausa/Fulani are going to fight forever to keep the empire of Nigeria without caring about if the empire works of if Igbos want it.

Yorubas are no friends of us Igbos and we Igbos are fully aware of their antics. A people who threw away their right of self deternination to uphold the empire of Nigeria cannot be trusted


This is why Yorubas always fool themselves that Nigeria is a great country

Their empire building nature is influencing them

Even Awo jettison his secessionist dream due to this nature

You are a deep thinker to have identify this nature of them cool


You earn my respect as a deep thinker kiss

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by ConqueredWest: 6:42am On Apr 06, 2017
The problem of southern unity lies with the Yorubas

They betrayed Igbos in 1967

They betrayed Southern minorities in 2015 angry


Treachery is acceptable in Yoruba culture

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Etogist: 6:48am On Apr 06, 2017
MrMaestro:


Point of correction. The South-South has the majority of the oil reserves in this country, not the igbos.

But yes the southwest, specifically Lagos alone, controls the commercial sector of the economy, with 25% of Nigeria's GDP, that's without oil. And if ranked as a country it is the 5th largest economy in Africa. Not to mention being home to the tech startup hub in yaba And with Ogun attracting 75% of Nigeria's foreign direct investment, the southwest in totality seems to be on the rise. And yes, the Southwest controls the media. The only thing thing the Yorubas don't dominantly control is oil (but as you can tell the southwest doesn't really need to), and the political sphere (even though Yorubas greatly influence it through media). The Yorubas also dominate Nigeria's music and film industry.

So to recount, the Yorubas own the commercial capital of the country and the tech investment scene (Lagos), the investment capital of the country (Ogun), owns the media, owns majority of the movie industry, and owns the majority of the music industry. The only thing the Yorubas don't easily dominate is politics. But while everyone is focusing on politics, the Yorubas focused on what is important. The U.S. didn't become a powerhouse by having great diplomats or being political savants. Neither did any other superpower. They became a superpower by controlling the MONEY and the MEDIA. Washington may be the political center, but Wall Street and New York are the true rulers of the United States.

Now with that being said, the Yorubas don't need the igbos or any other tribe to achieve anything. The Yorubas have all the power to do it on alone and could control Nigeria if that was the goal. It's funny because the Yorubas have been the least hungry for that. But it's only a matter of time before Yorubas start exercising that power to control major aspects of this country, including politics. It will come naturally and with time. Power never goes unexercised, and the Yorubas are amassing significant power in this country, that's just a fact. The Oba of Lagos made a comment against the entire igbos, and not only did they do nothing, they still live and work and go to Lagos in droves. Because they have no other choice. That's the signifier of power. It only began with the Oba of Lagos. We'll see more of that in the future.

What is this one saying?

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by ElsonMorali: 6:55am On Apr 06, 2017
Sorry. I don't see that happening anytime soon.

We know those who come online to open silly threads about their hosts.

It's never going to work.

The prayer point of most indigenes of the southwest is that Biafra is granted or the Jews find their lost brethren and have them shipped back to Jerusalem. Whichever comes first.

No, we are not interested in any southern unity. It'll always be a mirage.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by wristbangle: 7:12am On Apr 06, 2017
mightyhaze:
It's simple,..yorubas shd give igbos unalloyed support and solidarity for igbos to rule,dis will earn dem igbo trust. Because the problem here is yoruba betrayal over the years from 1966 to date!

Igbos have actually forgiven yoruba tracheary,by supporting obj to rule for atleast 8yrs under civil rule,..and have allowed yorubas and hausas to rule in peace during military era. Igbos too hav supported hausa fulani candidates atleast twice under civil rule viz shagari and yaradua rules.

The only logical/reasonable thing 2 do now is to gv igbos unwavering support 2 rule. By so doing,nigeria will not only be doin the only just thing,but will be giving itself an opportunity 2 be revamped and set on d road 2 greatness,since the great igbo tribe has been tested and found 2 possess that touch of midas!


Finally igbos don't hate yorubas,..they just not ready 2 be stabbed at the back again and again,..so they being quite cautious! The onus is on yorubas 2 redeem their image b4 the igbo race they have so actively schemed against for atleast 51years!

Sometimes when I hear the word " the yorubas stabbed the igbos at the back", am like how exactly because from your point of view, some of you twist the story to make it look as if it was a betrayal.

I agree igbos in a way have been sidelined for too long but somehow you guys are too rigid in political affairs. An indigene from SS region was an ex president was voted massively by SW in 2011 presidential election which he won. He lost 2015 election because of his shameless leadership and since then igbos have been crying wolf SW betrayed them (Is he an igbo?, you people are even crying more than the bereaved sef) but I can't say the fulani goro who won is working neither. It's just like the decision btw the devil and the deep blue sea.

By 2019 if igbos can field someone competent to rule, I will gallantly vote for him. I would have preferred rochas okorocha due to the fact that he is a political neutral man but he has not earned that respect enough as he is not living up to the task for imolites. Someone like obiano would make sense but I sense he maybe biased.

I just want good leadership in this country and I don't care wherever tribe he or she comes from.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by ElsonMorali: 7:13am On Apr 06, 2017
[quote author=mightyhaze post=55305241]

It's simple,..yorubas shd give igbos unalloyed support and solidarity for igbos to rule,dis will earn dem igbo trust. Because the problem here is yoruba betrayal over the years from 1966 to date!

And what makes you think that the Yorubas want to earn your trust? You guys are so full of yourselves to think the Yorubas give a hoot about you.

Mention just one instance of "Yoruba betrayal" of Igbos.

Igbos have actually forgiven yoruba tracheary,by supporting obj to rule for atleast 8yrs under civil rule,..and have allowed yorubas and hausas to rule in peace during military era. Igbos too hav supported hausa fulani candidates atleast twice under civil rule viz shagari and yaradua rules.

cheesy cheesy you have forgiven us? Awwwwnnnn... How generous of you. Is that why you've decided to keep coming to our abode for sustenance?

Please How did you allow the Yorubas to rule in peace during the military era? Do you even know what you are talking about?

The only logical/reasonable thing 2 do now is to gv igbos unwavering support 2 rule. By so doing,nigeria will not only be doin the only just thing,but will be giving itself an opportunity 2 be revamped and set on d road 2 greatness,since the great igbo tribe has been tested and found 2 possess that touch of midas!

The only support you'll get from the Yorubas is getting your Biafra and that's all. Well we could also help you pack your bags and luggage and probably give you transport fare when you get your country and decide to leave the southwest.


Finally igbos don't hate yorubas,..they just not ready 2 be stabbed at the back again and again,..so they being quite cautious! The onus is on yorubas 2 redeem their image b4 the igbo race they have so actively schemed against for atleast 51years!

I'm sure you are trying hard to believe what you have typed. In case you are delusional about Igbo's hatred for the Yorubas, take a stroll around the politics and culture sections of this forum.

If that isn't enough, go back to the east from whence you came and ask how many Yorubas have been able to buy land successfully.

Then search your heart for the unadulterated truth about How you truly feel about the Yorubas. Not that we give a sh1t anyway.

Mention one instance when the Yorubas stabbed you in the back undecided

The Igbos should concentrate on redeeming their drug - battered, excessive money - loving, and crime-induced image, locally and internationally instead of waiting for an apology from the Yorubas that will never come, not in a trillion years

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by BabaRamota1980: 7:16am On Apr 06, 2017
Divide the country so peple of North, West, East can go separate ways.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Emycord: 7:23am On Apr 06, 2017
From now on yoruba is my friend

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Emycord: 7:24am On Apr 06, 2017
From now on yoruba is my friend but they should stop supporting hausa and fulani when dey kill us
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by WorldRichest: 7:40am On Apr 06, 2017
ConqueredWest:
The problem of southern unity lies with the Yorubas

They betrayed Igbos in 1967

They betrayed Southern minorities in 2015 angry


Treachery is acceptable in Yoruba culture

These stories that your drunk grandfathers told you is the same thing that is destroying you fools and idiots. Yoruba betrayed Ibos. What a senseless statement from fools. Please who betrayed who when Nnamdi Azikiwe was ceremonial President while Tafawa Bello was Prime Minister while they two idiots kept Awolowo in Calabar Prison? Who betrayed who when Alex Ekweme was Vice to Shehu Sagari? Who betrayed who when Aikhiomu was Vice to IBB? Who betrayed who when the drunk ineffectual buffoon was Vice to Yar'Adua? I think your drunk grandfathers must be mad for telling you that Yorubas betrayed Ibos.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by virud: 7:42am On Apr 06, 2017
MrMaestro:


Point of correction. The South-South has the majority of the oil reserves in this country, not the igbos.

But yes the southwest, specifically Lagos alone, controls the commercial sector of the economy, with 25% of Nigeria's GDP, that's without oil. And if ranked as a country it is the 5th largest economy in Africa. Not to mention being home to the tech startup hub in yaba And with Ogun attracting 75% of Nigeria's foreign direct investment, the southwest in totality seems to be on the rise. And yes, the Southwest controls the media. The only thing thing the Yorubas don't dominantly control is oil (but as you can tell the southwest doesn't really need to), and the political sphere (even though Yorubas greatly influence it through media). The Yorubas also dominate Nigeria's music and film industry.

So to recount, the Yorubas own the commercial capital of the country and the tech investment scene (Lagos), the investment capital of the country (Ogun), owns the media, owns majority of the movie industry, and owns the majority of the music industry. The only thing the Yorubas don't easily dominate is politics. But while everyone is focusing on politics, the Yorubas focused on what is important. The U.S. didn't become a powerhouse by having great diplomats or being political savants. Neither did any other superpower. They became a superpower by controlling the MONEY and the MEDIA. Washington may be the political center, but Wall Street and New York are the true rulers of the United States.

Now with that being said, the Yorubas don't need the igbos or any other tribe to achieve anything. The Yorubas have all the power to do it on alone and could control Nigeria if that was the goal. It's funny because the Yorubas have been the least hungry for that. But it's only a matter of time before Yorubas start exercising that power to control major aspects of this country, including politics. It will come naturally and with time. Power never goes unexercised, and the Yorubas are amassing significant power in this country, that's just a fact. The Oba of Lagos made a comment against the entire igbos, and not only did they do nothing, they still live and work and go to Lagos in droves. Because they have no other choice. That's the signifier of power. It only began with the Oba of Lagos. We'll see more of that in the future.

Politics my dear, is a game of numbers. The candidate with the highest NUMBER of votes wins.
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by virud: 7:56am On Apr 06, 2017
For the avoidance of doubt, no single ethnic group can win the presidency of the country on the goodwill of her ethnography.

Judging from the geographic structure of Nigeria, you need at least ONE of the three major ethnic groups to sail.

Igbos, judging from past circumstances and the recent clamour for a new country, would naturally not align with the north. An Igbo / Yoruba alliance is frankly more likely to occur irrespective of political maneuvers.
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by mightyhaze: 8:47am On Apr 06, 2017
[quote author=ElsonMorali post=55307253][/quote] igbos have forgiven yorubas for their betrayal of igbos and south in general from time immemorial!

Wot is left is for yorubas 2 forgive demselves and gv Nigeria a fighting chance by massively supporting an igbo candidate for presidency!


Let me ask u a simple question,hav u ever voted an igbo candidate in ur life,like I have voted a yoruba candidate?

While d sense of guilt arising 4m dat question dawn devastatingly on u, may I chip dis in,daat it's only a hopeless fool dat keeps doin same tin over and over again (with different excuses,..in ur case,tribalism/ethnicism),then hoping for a different outcome. The yoruba/hausa rule of over 50yrs has made Nigeria a laffn stock,despite our great potentials. Hunger and starvation is the new order,despite all our potentials,..courtesy of ur voting in a clueless ancestor all in the name of spiting a region!


Make una enjoy sha
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by WorldRichest: 8:49am On Apr 06, 2017
virud:
For the avoidance of doubt, no single ethnic group can win the presidency of the country on the goodwill of her ethnography.

Judging from the geographic structure of Nigeria, you need at least ONE of the three major ethnic groups to sail.

Igbos, judging from past circumstances and the recent clamour for a new country, would naturally not align with the north. An Igbo / Yoruba alliance is frankly more likely to occur irrespective of political maneuvers.

Don't type this shit again. Yorubas will never ever align with children of hate and anger. Yorubas want one Nigeria, Ibos want Biafra where they can flourish in drug trafficking, fake drugs, rituals, armed robbery and all social vices. Yorubas will never align with Igbos.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by kamalcole3000: 9:02am On Apr 06, 2017
mightyhaze:
It's simple,..yorubas shd give igbos unalloyed support and solidarity for igbos to rule,dis will earn dem igbo trust. Because the problem here is yoruba betrayal over the years from 1966 to date!

Igbos have actually forgiven yoruba tracheary,by supporting obj to rule for atleast 8yrs under civil rule,..and have allowed yorubas and hausas to rule in peace during military era. Igbos too hav supported hausa fulani candidates atleast twice under civil rule viz shagari and yaradua rules.

The only logical/reasonable thing 2 do now is to gv igbos unwavering support 2 rule. By so doing,nigeria will not only be doin the only just thing,but will be giving itself an opportunity 2 be revamped and set on d road 2 greatness,since the great igbo tribe has been tested and found 2 possess that touch of midas!


Finally igbos don't hate yorubas,..they just not ready 2 be stabbed at the back again and again,..so they being quite cautious! The onus is on yorubas 2 redeem their image b4 the igbo race they have so actively schemed against for atleast 51years!

This your orientation and thought pattern is the reason why Hausa Fulani will continue to Lord it over both Yoruba and igbos despite their exposure.

Respect is not demanded it si earned.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by dreamwords: 9:08am On Apr 06, 2017
We dont care, we need biafra

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by virud: 9:12am On Apr 06, 2017
WorldRichest:


Don't type this shit again. Yorubas will never ever align with children of hate and anger. Yorubas want one Nigeria, Ibos want Biafra where they can flourish in drug trafficking, fake drugs, rituals, armed robbery and all social vices. Yorubas will never align with Igbos.

Am sorry if you find my past offensive, but I won't take it back. I will not recant.

Yoruba / Igbo alignment is achievable in the nearest future unlike an Igbo / Hausa political marriage which is, frankly speaking, highly unlikely due to sentiments.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Ovamboland(m): 9:43am On Apr 06, 2017
mightyhaze:
It's simple,..yorubas shd give igbos unalloyed support and solidarity for igbos to rule,dis will earn dem igbo trust. Because the problem here is yoruba betrayal over the years from 1966 to date!

Igbos have actually forgiven yoruba tracheary,by supporting obj to rule for atleast 8yrs under civil rule,..and have allowed yorubas and hausas to rule in peace during military era. Igbos too hav supported hausa fulani candidates atleast twice under civil rule viz shagari and yaradua rules.

The only logical/reasonable thing 2 do now is to gv igbos unwavering support 2 rule. By so doing,nigeria will not only be doin the only just thing,but will be giving itself an opportunity 2 be revamped and set on d road 2 greatness,since the great igbo tribe has been tested and found 2 possess that touch of midas!


Finally igbos don't hate yorubas,..they just not ready 2 be stabbed at the back again and again,..so they being quite cautious! The onus is on yorubas 2 redeem their image b4 the igbo race they have so actively schemed against for atleast 51years!

Do not be under any illusion that Igbos have ever supported Yoruba candidate in any election. Ibos rejected the candidate of the Yorubas, Olu Falae and voted en mass for the Fulani cum military choice Obasanjo. In June 12 1993, Abiola lost the Ibo vote to Tofa a fulani man. In the struggle to chase away the military from power championed by Yorubas, over 95% of Ibo elites and politicians joined the military to fight Yoruba, collecting contracts, appointments and yearning for extended military rule, until Yoruba strategy worked at discrediting the military/Fulani/Ibo position and making rule by force untenable.

Unlike Yorubas who voted for Ibo candidate GEJ in the 2011 election, there's no record of Ibos interest ever converging with Yoruba. It appears whenever Yoruba takes a position on any matter Ibos become duty bound to oppose it as a duty. Even during the Jonathan conference, Ibos opposed state police championed by Yorubas years before the meeting. Today Ibos like everyone else now call on the Fulani led federal Police and Army to save them from Fulani herdsmen, how Ironic

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by dacovajnr: 9:47am On Apr 06, 2017
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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Ovamboland(m): 10:16am On Apr 06, 2017
ConqueredWest:
The problem of southern unity lies with the Yorubas

They betrayed Igbos in 1967

They betrayed Southern minorities in 2015 angry


Treachery is acceptable in Yoruba culture

And when Ibos abandoned Yoruba and teamed up with Fulani in 1960 that is not treachery and not anti southern unity?


You guys dish out meals you claimed is unpalatable when served back

At which meeting did Yorubas agree to vote back Jonathan in 2015 that was later renegade on? It's obvious low quality education makes people use words they lack understanding of its meaning. Was Jonathan not warned and he decided to call Yoruba bluff only to later come begging with dollars?

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by mightyhaze: 10:25am On Apr 06, 2017
Ovamboland:


Do not be under any illusion that Igbos have ever supported Yoruba candidate in any election. Ibos rejected the candidate of the Yorubas, Olu Falae and voted en mass for the Fulani cum military choice Obasanjo. In June 12 1993, Abiola lost the Ibo vote to Tofa a fulani man. In the struggle to chase away the military from power championed by Yorubas, over 95% of Ibo elites and politicians joined the military to fight Yoruba, collecting contracts, appointments and yearning for extended military rule, until Yoruba strategy worked at discrediting the military/Fulani/Ibo position and making rule by force untenable.

Unlike Yorubas who voted for Ibo candidate GEJ in the 2011 election, there's no record of Ibos interest ever converging with Yoruba. It appears whenever Yoruba takes a position on any matter Ibos become duty bound to oppose it as a duty. Even during the Jonathan conference, Ibos opposed state police championed by Yorubas years before the meeting. Today Ibos like everyone else now call on the Fulani led federal Police and Army to save them from Fulani herdsmen, how Ironic
what is this one saying?

Why are u shifting goal posts?

Is obasanjo a yoruba man or not?

Did igbos support both his candidature and subsequent rule or not? How many igbo candidates have u ever thumbprinted for in ur life??

Now,if delusion of superiority is not ur prob,how will u justify the attempted humiliation of the igbo race by abiola who had d audacity 2 say dat igbos are inconsequential in Nigerian politics and dat anyone can win elections without them? U expected the proud igbo race 2 fall over themselves 2 vote such person? Moreover,abiolas betrayers where all yoruba elders. He was betrayed by his own kinsmen wich led 2 his incarceration and eventual demise

Now ur talking about supporting jonathan an ijaw man. Are u a clown or wot?

Is jonathan an igbo man? Is shifting and rearranging goal posts ur favorite hobby? We ralkinhg igbo and yoruba here and ur bringing in jonathan,an ijawman from south south. Moreover there was no such time yoruuba even gave jonathan a wholehearted support!

The reverse of ur argument is the case. Yorubas are the ones dat are awake n studious, looking for anything dat will benefit the igbos and the entire south to counter it,so they can look good 2 the hausa fulani. That is the object of contention here,south of Nigeria!

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by stonemasonn: 10:29am On Apr 06, 2017
virud:


Igbos, judging from past circumstances and the recent clamour for a new country, would naturally not align with the north. An Igbo / Yoruba alliance is frankly more likely to occur irrespective of political maneuvers.
hahahahahaha.. You make me laugh. Igbo and Yorubas will betray themselves anytime. The Hausa-Fulanis don't need to do anything.
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by orisa37: 10:33am On Apr 06, 2017
Fulani Herdsmen.
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by ElsonMorali: 10:45am On Apr 06, 2017
[quote author=mightyhaze post=55309915]

igbos have forgiven yorubas for their betrayal of igbos and south in general from time immemorial!

Wasnt aware were asked for your forgiveness undecided

Please pocket it.

Wot is left is for yorubas 2 forgive demselves and gv Nigeria a fighting chance by massively supporting an igbo candidate for presidency!

Igbo presidency uh. You don't want Biafra anymore


Let me ask u a simple question,hav u ever voted an igbo candidate in ur life,like I have voted a yoruba candidate?

Which one will I vote for?

If they ask Igbos to produce a candidate for presidency, 5million Igbos will come out to contest.

No, I can't vote Igbo to be president. What you guys need is a country of your own, far away from Yoruba land. Were are ready to support you for that.

While d sense of guilt arising 4m dat question dawn devastatingly on u, may I chip dis in,daat it's only a hopeless fool dat keeps doin same tin over and over again (with different excuses,..in ur case,tribalism/ethnicism),then hoping for a different outcome. The yoruba/hausa rule of over 50yrs has made Nigeria a laffn stock,despite our great potentials. Hunger and starvation is the new order,despite all our potentials,..courtesy of ur voting in a clueless ancestor all in the name of spiting a region!


Make una enjoy sha


Lolest. I really don't blame you. You must be one of these indomie children running up and down this forum.

I'm guessing you attended primary and secondary school at a time government scrapped history studies from the curriculum. Take a look at this:

Nnamdi Azikiwe, first Nigerian president after independence - Igbo man.

Kaduna Nzeogwu and Emmanuel Ifeajuna, first Nigerian coup plotters - Igbo men

Major General John Thomas Umunnakwe Aguiyi-Ironsi, Nigeria's second military head of state- Igbo man

Alex Ekwueme, former vice president of Nigeria - Igbo man.

Nwafor Orizu, former Senate president, (1963-1966) - Igbo man

Ameh Ebute, former Senate president elect (1993) -Igbo man

Evan Enwerem, former Senate president, (1999)- Igbo man

Chuba Okadigbo, former Senate president, (1999-2000)- Igbo man

Anyim Pius Anyim, former Senate president, (2000-2003)- Igbo man

Ken Nnamani, former Senate president, (2005-2007)- Igbo man.

Goodluck EBELE AZIKIWE Jonathan, former president, (2009-2015)- Adopted Igbo son. grin




So, you were saying...?

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Basic123: 10:49am On Apr 06, 2017
kingzizzy:
Asking Igbos and Yorubas to unite is like asking oil and water to mix, not possible. The problem the OP has is that he is still trying to see Igbo/Yoruba from the context of 'Nigeria'

To understand why Yoruba and Igbo will never unite, one has to go back to when there was no Nigeria. What kind of people were Igbos and Yorubas?

History tells us that the Yorubas have never been able to exist alone. They once chased an empire from present day Nigeria to Togo. This 'empire creating' nature of Yorubas has never left them. Igbos on the other hand never had an empire and had no desire have one. The Igbo man is republican, egalitarian and very independent.

Unfortunately for Igbos, of the 3 main ethnic groups, Igbos are the only ones who are not empire creators and thats why Yorubas will continually unite with the Hausa/Fulani oligarchy of the North to undemine Igbos.

Yorubas and Hausa/Fulani are going to fight forever to keep the empire of Nigeria without caring about if the empire works of if Igbos want it.

Yorubas are no friends of us Igbos and we Igbos are fully aware of their antics. A people who threw away their right of self deternination to uphold the empire of Nigeria cannot be trusted
lolz...yinmun for you..who do you trust self...do you guyz even trust yourself?...if not ojukwu will not absconded to ivory coast for his followers to be massacred by nigerian army and the same party founded by ojukwu you claim to love is grasping for breath while you are embracing PDP created by fulanis all around.
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Ovamboland(m): 10:50am On Apr 06, 2017
mightyhaze:
what is this one saying?

Why are u shifting goal posts?

Is obasanjo a yoruba man or not?

Did igbos support both his candidature and subsequent rule or not? How many igbo candidates have u ever thumbprinted for in ur life??

Now,if delusion of superiority is not ur prob,how will u justify the attempted humiliation of the igbo race by abiola who had d audacity 2 say dat igbos are inconsequential in Nigerian politics and dat anyone can win elections without them? U expected the proud igbo race 2 fall over themselves 2 vote such person? Moreover,abiolas betrayers where all yoruba elders. He was betrayed by his own kinsmen wich led 2 his incarceration and eventual demise

Now ur talking about supporting jonathan an ijaw man. Are u a clown or wot?

Is jonathan an igbo man? Is shifting and rearranging goal posts ur favorite hobby? We ralkinhg igbo and yoruba here and ur bringing in jonathan,an ijawman from south south. Moreover there was no such time yoruuba even gave jonathan a wholehearted support!

The reverse of ur argument is the case. Yorubas are the ones dat are awake n studious, looking for anything dat will benefit the igbos and the entire south to counter it,so they can look good 2 the hausa fulani. That is the object of contention here,south of Nigeria!

Anyone voting in 1999 had no choice than to vote either Yoruba men as the only two candidates. The other option is to abstain.
At no time did Yoruba beg for Ibos votes because the candidate is Yoruba as Ibos now want to blackmail Yorubas to do for them.

You might forget but Yorubas remember that the process that led to two Yoruba men as sole contestants was vehemently resisted by Ibos elites by going to dance for Abacha and championing his conference.

Except you were a kid then the 1999 election effectively delivered power back to those who opposed democratic governance and sustained military rule and it was the candidate of this group that most Ibos supported. Did you know not that IBB who annulled 1993 election went to Obasanjo to Persuade his candidacy?

No Ibo candidate with a chance has ever presented himself to the public for election. The nearest is Pat Utomi who got my vote even though I knew he stood no chance. Ojukwu who wanted dismemberment of the country couldn't get my vote.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Basic123: 10:53am On Apr 06, 2017
mightyhaze:
what is this one saying?

Why are u shifting goal posts?

Is obasanjo a yoruba man or not?

Did igbos support both his candidature and subsequent rule or not? How many igbo candidates have u ever thumbprinted for in ur life??

Now,if delusion of superiority is not ur prob,how will u justify the attempted humiliation of the igbo race by abiola who had d audacity 2 say dat igbos are inconsequential in Nigerian politics and dat anyone can win elections without them? U expected the proud igbo race 2 fall over themselves 2 vote such person? Moreover,abiolas betrayers where all yoruba elders. He was betrayed by his own kinsmen wich led 2 his incarceration and eventual demise

Now ur talking about supporting jonathan an ijaw man. Are u a clown or wot?

Is jonathan an igbo man? Is shifting and rearranging goal posts ur favorite hobby? We ralkinhg igbo and yoruba here and ur bringing in jonathan,an ijawman from south south. Moreover there was no such time yoruuba even gave jonathan a wholehearted support!

The reverse of ur argument is the case. Yorubas are the ones dat are awake n studious, looking for anything dat will benefit the igbos and the entire south to counter it,so they can look good 2 the hausa fulani. That is the object of contention here,south of Nigeria!
have you ever presented a common candidate.20 igbos can show interest in presidency at a time??.......you yourself,when ojukwu contested in 2003 did you vote for him?.....lolz,igbos and illogicality.
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by mightyhaze: 10:54am On Apr 06, 2017
[quote author=ElsonMorali post=55313484][/quote] I was mentally forming an adequate rebuttal b4 I read where u unnecessarily called out names of the first coup plotters,..nzeogwu and ifeajuna,while conveniently fogetting ademoyega and banjo!



Why shd I waste mental energy on som1 who mischievously refers to goodluck jonathan an ijaw man 4m ssouth,as an igbo man.

Clear! angry

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Nobody: 10:56am On Apr 06, 2017
The fact is that the Igbo's are too uncultured, unpragmatic, emotionally unstable, cry babies and politically unsophisticated to be in any kind of alliance with the Yoruba's.


They lack hindsight and foresight, and are experts in blame shifting. They hate taking responsibility for their actions and inactions and would rather blame others for their inadequacies and limitations. They also aren't strategic thinkers and lack comprehension of the dynamism of Nigeria political system.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Basic123: 11:00am On Apr 06, 2017
ConqueredWest:
The problem of southern unity lies with the Yorubas

They betrayed Igbos in 1967

They betrayed Southern minorities in 2015 angry


Treachery is acceptable in Yoruba culture

Igbos are more treacherous than yorubas

Igbos betrayed Awolowo in 1979

Igbos betrayed Abiola in 1993

Recall, Yoruba led( wole soyinka,Odumakin,Tunde bakare and co) Save nigerian group SNG was at the forefront of campaigning to make GEJ president an acting president even edwin clark,asari dokubo,ibori(GEJ enemy),kalu were all silent then even his own Aodoanka when protest were going on in ibadan and lagos.When he contested in 2011 he won in all yoruba state except osun.

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