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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 1:00am On Apr 07, 2017
aribisala0:
I would not have NPP do anything. What I would have YOU do is produce one clipping where any Yoruba called Eboes betrayers or even criticised Eboes for that.We had no problem with it because we do not know you before and do not believe you owe us anything. So why all this nonsense now when you are in opposition? We did not start any radio Our or any of this chilldish nonsense you are doing. We did not join NPP or NON. We stuck with the consequences of our electoral choices. That is real bravery and character

Betrayal? How? Did NPP adopt Shagari as their presidential candidate?

Was NPP coalesced into NPN. Did NPN ever win any presidential election in Igboland( Imo and Anambra) between 1979-83?

How can you compare the NPP scenario with what happened in 2014, when Yorubas coalesced ACN into ANPP and CPC with the sole aim of wrestling power out of a Southern President. Simply because they are angry that he was giving a level play ground for Ndiigbo and not playing the 95%-5% game of marginalization?

No. You are simply comparing apples with oranges here.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by aribisala0(m): 7:25am On Apr 07, 2017
pazienza:


Betrayal? How? Did NPP adopt Shagari as their presidential candidate?

Was NPP coalesced into NPN. Did NPN ever win any presidential election in Igboland( Imo and Anambra) between 1979-83?

How can you compare the NPP scenario with what happened in 2014, when Yorubas coalesced ACN into ANPP and CPC with the sole aim of wrestling power out of a Southern President. Simply because they are angry that he was giving a level play ground for Ndiigbo and not playing the 95%-5% game of marginalization?

No. You are simply comparing apples with oranges here.
You are funny Yoruba don't have political allegiance to anyone north or south so we will never talk of betrayal you are the one trying to be clever with that nonsense. Politically we have always been ALONE .Stop this nonsense sentiment of Southern President because it means nothing to us.Yoruba voted for him in 2011 and didn't in 2015 we owe no one any explanation.
Please don't twist things and put words in my mouth. We can never talk of betrayal because unlike you we think like ADULTS. We don't believe anyone owes us and we have no sense of belonging to any so called SOUTH. Where were Eboe leaders in 2011 when the likes of Wole Soyinka and Tunde Bakare were fighting for the so called SOUTHERN President?

The Yoruba have ALWAYS stood alone politically in Nigeria in opposition. Why are the Eboes so afraid of this and now decamping to the so called Yoruba party? Shameless

Can you provide evidence of Yoruba ever calling anyone betrayers or complaining about the political choices of anyone
If people don't side with us that is their right maybe we can persuade them next time, that is our attitude. We understand their right to act in their own interests and respect it. We don't start abusing them or acting like a jilted lover.That is childish
You are free to do what you want politically why can't you respect the right of others to do so

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by ElsonMorali: 7:45am On Apr 07, 2017
tifany89:


[s]Loads of gibberish. Truth is u r not a wise person. U keep mentioning Igbos come to ur land for sustainance n am forced to ask u how? Is it the the fact that they set up businesses n r doing fine dat is ur problem? Didn't they pay for rent? Or r d shops free? Healthcare,house rent,transport n all is being paid for so wtf? Even tax to the government. why don't u go n compete if u think u v d capacity after all d market is big enough for all. Moreover are there no yorubas in the east as tailors n doing other businesses? R dey not thriving? So what is ur problem? Plz dz line of argument is actually stale oga afterall dey left before but ur forebears went to them n insist on them staying to d extent of fighting a war. You v plenty of your people benefiting from the Igbos doing business in ur land. I know some landlords who would v barely been able to feed if not for d houses dey inherited from their parents. So plz say something else. Igbos owe u nothing[/s]

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by kingzizzy: 9:48am On Apr 07, 2017
Slonge2:
The fact is that the Igbo's are too uncultured, unpragmatic, emotionally unstable, cry babies and politically unsophisticated to be in any kind of alliance with the Yoruba's.


They lack hindsight and foresight, and are experts in blame shifting. They hate taking responsibility for their actions and inactions and would rather blame others for their inadequacies and limitations. They also aren't strategic thinkers and lack comprehension of the dynamism of Nigeria political system.

And of what is point of all this if Igbos are saying they dont want to be in the same country as you?
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by aribisala0(m): 11:28am On Apr 07, 2017
kingzizzy:


And of what is point of all this if Igbos are saying they dont want to be in the same country as you?
Nothing to do with us Eboes can go back to Jerusalem for all we care. Just don't create violence in our neighbourhood. We cannot ignore irresponsible actions that would have consequences for our peace and security .
We have not forgotten the attack on Ore or Laos. Any future
Eboe nation MUST be demilitarised and will not be allowed to have any military forces

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by kingzizzy: 11:50am On Apr 07, 2017
aribisala0:
Nothing to do with us Eboes can go back to Jerusalem for all we care. Just don't create violence in our neighbourhood. We cannot ignore irresponsible actions that would have consequences for our peace and security .
We have not forgotten the attack on Ore or Laos. Any future
Eboe nation MUST be demilitarised and will not be allowed to have any military forces

The attack in Ore? Igbos had already packed up, returned to the East, declared their own country and left Nigeria in peace. You Nigerians would not leave us alone and came down to the East to fight. When we retaliated, you people started shouting Ore!

It was the Nigerian/Biafran war and Ore was in Nigeria. You guys are lucky we didnt attack Ibadan

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by aribisala0(m): 11:51am On Apr 07, 2017
kingzizzy:


The attack in Ore? Igbos had already packed up, returned to the East, declared their own country and left Nigeria in peace. You Nigerians would not leave us alone and came down to the East to fight. When we retaliated, you people started shouting Ore!

It was the Nigerian/Biafran war and Ore was in Nigeria. You guys are lucky we didnt attack Ibadan
Good job
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 12:53pm On Apr 07, 2017
Can you provide evidence of Yoruba ever calling
anyone betrayers or complaining about the political
choices of anyone
If people don't side with us that is their right
maybe we can persuade them next time, that is our
attitude. We understand their right to act in their
own interests and respect it. We don't start
abusing them or acting like a jilted lover.That is
childish
You are free to do what you want politically why
can't you respect the right of others to do so


Lol! Yorubas continuously propagate the propaganda of Zik stopping Awolowo and Yoruba from secession from Nigeria.
They accuse Zik and NCNC of forming alliance with NPC instead of Awolowo, without telling themselves the whole story.

The only people not respecting people's right to do what they want politically are Yorubas, who were most vocal in 60's in calling for Igbo extermination because of our secession political choice. The same Yorubas who are all over the internet today convulsing over Igbo political orientation of self determination. Yorubas are the one all over the internet calling Biafra Biafrau.d, Goading the NA and NPF to shoot innocent Biafran protesters, and going into joyous frenzy once the Gore pics of massacred Biafrans circulate the internet.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 12:58pm On Apr 07, 2017
Where were
Eboe leaders in 2011 when the likes of Wole
Soyinka and Tunde Bakare were fighting for the so
called SOUTHERN President?


Never knew that Bakare and Soyinka are now Akunyili who called the bluff of Turai kitchen cabinet. Keep deceiving yourselves.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 1:06pm On Apr 07, 2017
The Yoruba have ALWAYS stood alone politically in
Nigeria in opposition. Why are the Eboes so afraid
of this and now decamping to the so called Yoruba
party? Shameless


Lol! How you lots can keep straight face while reeling out these lies is still a wonder.

Awolowo stood with Northern minority party UMBC in 1959, could have probably sealed a deal with NPC later, if Zik was no savvy enough to move faster.

Kayode and Akintola led Yorubas into a union with NNA in 1964 under NNDP. Akintola was the premier of the Western region and had many Yoruba supporters.

Awolowo and Yoruba went into union with the North and Gowon in 1967, and were the mouthpiece of Gowon and the North during the war.

Obasanjo was a Northern yes man.

Buhari had Babatunde Idiagbon as his Deputy in the 80's

The list is endless.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by papikay247: 1:34pm On Apr 07, 2017
mightyhaze:
It's simple,..yorubas shd give igbos unalloyed support and solidarity for igbos to rule,dis will earn dem igbo trust. Because the problem here is yoruba betrayal over the years from 1966 to date!

Igbos have actually forgiven yoruba tracheary,by supporting obj to rule for atleast 8yrs under civil rule,..and have allowed yorubas and hausas to rule in peace during military era. Igbos too hav supported hausa fulani candidates atleast twice under civil rule viz shagari and yaradua rules.

The only logical/reasonable thing 2 do now is to gv igbos unwavering support 2 rule. By so doing,nigeria will not only be doin the only just thing,but will be giving itself an opportunity 2 be revamped and set on d road 2 greatness,since the great igbo tribe has been tested and found 2 possess that touch of midas!


Finally igbos don't hate yorubas,..they just not ready 2 be stabbed at the back again and again,..so they being quite cautious! The onus is on yorubas 2 redeem their image b4 the igbo race they have so actively schemed against for atleast 51years!
, before any betrayal or backstabbing, there must be an ALLIANCE. Could you please tell us anytime the Igbos have had an alliance with the Yorubas that the Yorubas betrayed them in the history of this country?

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by aribisala0(m): 1:39pm On Apr 07, 2017
papikay247:
, before any betrayal or backstabbing, there must be an ALLIANCE. Could you please tell us anytime the Igbos have had an alliance with the Yorubas that the Yorubas betrayed them in the history of this country?
Yoruba can never have alliance with Eboes in politics maybe in crime,fraud,forgery and drugs they can do collabos

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Ovamboland(m): 2:56pm On Apr 07, 2017
pazienza:


Akintola teamed up with Balewa/ Saraduna in a classical re enactment of Alimi/Afonja season 2 to jail Awolowo who himself was found to be corrupt and as such made himself an easy prey for Akintola( who sought to Usurp him as the Yoruba leader) and Saraduna( Who saw Akintola folly as a chance to get a foothold on Yorubaland, politically, in typical Alimi style).

Why is it hard for Yorubas to admit the above, instead of bringing an unconcerned Zik and Igbo elites into your mess?

What sort of people are you lots?

Revisonist and lies, it was Zik and ibos who broke southern solidarity first in 1960 by teaming up with Fulani led government. Akintola was a renegade government in Yoruba under whom the region became ungovernable due to popular Yoruba revolt.
Akintola found solace in Zik and Balewa government as a tool to be used to cut Awolowo to size.
ZIK choose alliance with Fulani believing them to be stupid and not needing to compete with Yoruba for appointment.Thats why ibos were appointed to head schools like Unilag, UI. When the selfish calculation failed to yield adequate returns and Zik made strictly a spectator in government, he now started the song of southern solidarity.
With Awolowo out of the way in jail he now attempted to harvest Yoruba votes based on Igbo led UPGA. The renegade Akintola repaid Zik in his own coin and did exactly what Zik did in 1960.

Akintola saw through Zik deceit and chose alliance with Fulani for that he became bad to Ibos while Zik remains good to the ibos for alliance with same Fulani.

For Akintola dalliance with Zik and Saraduna to jail Awolowo and for joining Yorubas to unwanted government he was never accepted as leader by Yorubas. That's why Akintola was not missed in the west when a faction of his central government friends came to kill him.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by tifany89(m): 2:57pm On Apr 07, 2017
[quote author=ElsonMorali post=55340243][/quote]
Typical. I would have been really surprised if you could come up with something intelligent. Get lost dude
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by amc: 3:34pm On Apr 07, 2017
So why was Nnamdi Kanu calling for the killing of Yorubas?

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by aribisala0(m): 3:38pm On Apr 07, 2017
pazienza:
Where were
Eboe leaders in 2011 when the likes of Wole
Soyinka and Tunde Bakare were fighting for the so
called SOUTHERN President?


Never knew that Bakare and Soyinka are now Akunyili who called the bluff of Turai kitchen cabinet. Keep deceiving yourselves.
Akunyuli? You folk have no shame. You just lie like children

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Nobody: 3:44pm On Apr 07, 2017
kingzizzy:


And of what is point of all this if Igbos are saying they dont want to be in the same country as you?
if you want to secede, do so, it is non-of our business. we arent stoping you from anything, or do you need our blessings to secede?



you can see why i said your folks are crybabies, irrational and witless
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Nobody: 3:56pm On Apr 07, 2017
Ghj

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by chibuzorAbia: 4:47pm On Apr 07, 2017
ALLIANCE WITH Igbo!!!

GOD FORBID! undecided

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 6:46pm On Apr 07, 2017
Revisonist and lies, it was Zik and ibos who broke
southern solidarity first in 1960 by teaming up with
Fulani led government. Akintola was a renegade
government in Yoruba under whom the region
became ungovernable due to popular Yoruba
revolt.


Akintola was a Yoruba premier with Yoruba supporters.
Only you know what you are rambling about.

Akintola supporters who were Yorubas were fighting with Awolowo supporters who were also Yorubas. That's what happened, it wasn't different from what you lots were doing during Kiriji. Political maturity and peaceful resolution of intra ethnic conflicts had never beenYoruba strong points.

Akintola and Awo treachery left Zik with no choice in 1959.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 6:51pm On Apr 07, 2017
Akintola found solace in Zik and Balewa
government as a tool to be used to cut Awolowo to
size.


Akintola was never friends with Zik or Ndiigbo. He was Igbophobic by default, as is expected of most Yorubas.

Akintola found solace in Saraduna/Balewa, just like Afonja took in solace in Alimi. It was Akintola Afonjaic nature calling out to him.

Your attempts at puting Zik and Ndiigbo into Akintola re enactment of Afonja season 2, is at best desperate.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 7:06pm On Apr 07, 2017
ZIK choose alliance with Fulani believing them to
be stupid and not needing to compete with Yoruba
for appointment.Thats why ibos were appointed to
head schools like Unilag, UI. When the selfish
calculation failed to yield adequate returns and Zik
made strictly a spectator in government, he now
started the song of southern solidarity.
With Awolowo out of the way in jail he now
attempted to harvest Yoruba votes based on Igbo
led UPGA. The renegade Akintola repaid Zik in his
own coin and did exactly what Zik did in 1960.


Awolowo and Akintola treachery forced Zik into alliance with the North.
Igbos were heads in those schools as with most things in those era, because they were the best of the bests, and would still head most things in today's Nigeria, if Federal character is removed. Deal with it.

Akintola and his hordes of Yoruba supporters were never in for Southern Solidarity, he was in North making plans to form union with Balewa, while Awolowo was in Enugu telling Zik about Southern solidarity. Double agents!

Akintola it was who broke Southern unity in 1964, when he united with NNA.He was Yoruba premier with many Yoruba supporters who were willing to kill for him. Deal with it.

Awolowo was sent to prison by Akintola, who sought to replace Awolowo as the leader of Yorubas and like Afonja, needed the help of Alimi to do that.
With Awolowo in jail, Akintola needed to strike the rod when it was still hot, so he started his moves to take total control of the Western parliament. The Awoist stood in his way and Western region became engulfed in Anarchy.

This was the story of Akintola- Awolowo and Saraduna as we knew it.

It was the classical repeat of Afonja/Alimi story. Any attempts to distort facts and make Azikiwe/ Ndiigbo part of the story, in other to save face, by the Yorubas, will always be exposed as falsehood it is, and remains.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by AshiwajuFoward: 7:07pm On Apr 07, 2017
Yigbos are such shameless hypocrites. Smh. Zik formed alliance with Abokis because he was 'left without a choice'. cheesy But Akintola (and by extension Yorubas) supposedly (according to them) 'broke' their phantom 'Southern Solidarity' by going into an alliance with the same Abokis after Zik's Aboki collabo broke down. That's typical yigbo sick reasoning in full glare. Smh.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 7:12pm On Apr 07, 2017
Akintola saw through Zik deceit and chose alliance
with Fulani for that he became bad to Ibos while
Zik remains good to the ibos for alliance with
same Fulani.
For Akintola dalliance with Zik and Saraduna to jail
Awolowo and for joining Yorubas to unwanted
government he was never accepted as leader by
Yorubas. That's why Akintola was not missed in
the west when a faction of his central government
friends came to kill him.


Akintola was a typical Afonja that started seeking out his Alimi since 1959. His attempts as aligning with the NPC in 1959 was what forced Zik into alliance with the North to curtail that.
Akintola would not stop. He successfully invited Saraduna Who helped him unseat Awolowo, imprisoned him using hard core evidences and sealed a union with Arewa.

Akintola was well supported as a Yoruba leader, he had his supporters all over the Western region. Just as Awolowo had his. Both of them tore the region into two Waring factions.

Yorubas cried about Akintola death after the coup, and accused Igbos of being behind his death till this day, because they believed that Yorubas stood to profit from Akintola NNDP New alliance with the North.

You deceive no one.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 7:18pm On Apr 07, 2017
AshiwajuFoward:
Yigbos are such shameless hypocrites. Smh. Zik formed alliance with Abokis because he was 'left without a choice'. cheesy But Akintola (and by extension Yorubas) supposedly (according to them) 'broke' their phantom 'Southern Solidarity' by going into an alliance with the same Abokis after Zik's Aboki collabo broke down. That's typical yigbo sick reasoning in full glare. Smh.

In one breathe, Akintola was a renegade, a non Yoruba leader, and in another, he becomes a Wise Yoruba leader whose union with Arewa was smart and aimed at saving Yorubas from phantom Igbo domination. You lots have to atleast try and keep your story straight.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by obaaderemi: 7:21pm On Apr 07, 2017
AshiwajuFoward:
Yigbos are such shameless hypocrites. Smh. Zik formed alliance with Abokis because he was 'left without a choice'. cheesy But Akintola (and by extension Yorubas) supposedly (according to them) 'broke' their phantom 'Southern Solidarity' by going into an alliance with the same Abokis after Zik's Aboki collabo broke down. That's typical yigbo sick reasoning in full glare. Smh.
Who cares what the ibos think?and I don't think right thinking ibos also care what yorubas think.But many ibos like the one who has been running amok here keep twisting the narrative to sooth his tortured soul.Both groups(ibos and Yorubas)through their leaders made decisions the consequences of which both groups face today.But one group continues to cry and blame everyone else for what it faces today.That group remains embittered eternally.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by AshiwajuFoward: 7:35pm On Apr 07, 2017
pazienza:


In one breathe, Akintola was a renegade, a non Yoruba leader, and in another, he becomes a Wise Yoruba leader whose union with Arewa was smart and aimed at saving Yorubas from phantom Igbo domination. You lots have to atleast try and keep your story straight.


Guy STFU. Whether Akintola was widely accepted as a Yoruba leader relative to Awo isn't important here. The FACT that you can't wish away remains that your Yigbo leader Zik set the precedent of breaking your so-called Southern solidarity. You excuse that away by claiming Zik was left without a choice. How convenient. undecided

It's ok for you pricks to romance Balewa and Shagari as second in-command ('President' and VP), not once but twice (fvck southern solidarity when that happened coz Yigbos are allowed to do that, coz both times y'all were left with no choice). Where the fvck was Southern solidarity then?? Who are you fooling if not yourself. Shior.

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by aribisala0(m): 7:36pm On Apr 07, 2017
The bottom line is Yorubas are indifferent to Eboes, they are irrelevant to us. The only reason this rubbish carries on is Eboes hatred and impotent desire to get even for perceived wrongs. So we have to constantly react to their pesky attempts to rewrite history otherwise they are inconsequential to us as a people and their land.If we agreed that everyone should stay in their place Yorubas have no problem the entire Eboeland is smaller than Oyo state

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Nobody: 7:53pm On Apr 07, 2017
back from 1week ban...Ok
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Nobody: 7:56pm On Apr 07, 2017
aribisala0:
The bottom line is Yorubas are indifferent to Eboes, they are irrelevant to us. The only reason this rubbish carries on is Eboes hatred and impotent desire to get even for perceived wrongs. So we have to constantly react to their pesky attempts to rewrite history otherwise they are inconsequential to us as a people and their land.If we agreed that everyone should stay in their place Yorubas have no problem the entire Eboeland is smaller than Oyo state
Igboland smaller than Oyo state...After all of awolowo free education..

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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by aribisala0(m): 8:03pm On Apr 07, 2017
ikeadewole:

Igboland smaller than Oyo state...After all of awolowo free education..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_states_by_area

Kontinu claiming other people's lands Kontinu
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Nobody: 8:12pm On Apr 07, 2017
aribisala0:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_states_by_area

Kontinu claiming other people's lands Kontinu
so google is saying lie...Why is the governor of delta and rivers Igbo....There is a diffreance between tribe/state/region you this descendent of fallen angel..

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