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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 1:00am On Apr 07, 2017 |
aribisala0: Betrayal? How? Did NPP adopt Shagari as their presidential candidate? Was NPP coalesced into NPN. Did NPN ever win any presidential election in Igboland( Imo and Anambra) between 1979-83? How can you compare the NPP scenario with what happened in 2014, when Yorubas coalesced ACN into ANPP and CPC with the sole aim of wrestling power out of a Southern President. Simply because they are angry that he was giving a level play ground for Ndiigbo and not playing the 95%-5% game of marginalization? No. You are simply comparing apples with oranges here. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by aribisala0(m): 7:25am On Apr 07, 2017 |
pazienza:You are funny Yoruba don't have political allegiance to anyone north or south so we will never talk of betrayal you are the one trying to be clever with that nonsense. Politically we have always been ALONE .Stop this nonsense sentiment of Southern President because it means nothing to us.Yoruba voted for him in 2011 and didn't in 2015 we owe no one any explanation. Please don't twist things and put words in my mouth. We can never talk of betrayal because unlike you we think like ADULTS. We don't believe anyone owes us and we have no sense of belonging to any so called SOUTH. Where were Eboe leaders in 2011 when the likes of Wole Soyinka and Tunde Bakare were fighting for the so called SOUTHERN President? The Yoruba have ALWAYS stood alone politically in Nigeria in opposition. Why are the Eboes so afraid of this and now decamping to the so called Yoruba party? Shameless Can you provide evidence of Yoruba ever calling anyone betrayers or complaining about the political choices of anyone If people don't side with us that is their right maybe we can persuade them next time, that is our attitude. We understand their right to act in their own interests and respect it. We don't start abusing them or acting like a jilted lover.That is childish You are free to do what you want politically why can't you respect the right of others to do so 14 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by ElsonMorali: 7:45am On Apr 07, 2017 |
tifany89: 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by kingzizzy: 9:48am On Apr 07, 2017 |
Slonge2: And of what is point of all this if Igbos are saying they dont want to be in the same country as you? |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by aribisala0(m): 11:28am On Apr 07, 2017 |
kingzizzy:Nothing to do with us Eboes can go back to Jerusalem for all we care. Just don't create violence in our neighbourhood. We cannot ignore irresponsible actions that would have consequences for our peace and security . We have not forgotten the attack on Ore or Laos. Any future Eboe nation MUST be demilitarised and will not be allowed to have any military forces 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by kingzizzy: 11:50am On Apr 07, 2017 |
aribisala0: The attack in Ore? Igbos had already packed up, returned to the East, declared their own country and left Nigeria in peace. You Nigerians would not leave us alone and came down to the East to fight. When we retaliated, you people started shouting Ore! It was the Nigerian/Biafran war and Ore was in Nigeria. You guys are lucky we didnt attack Ibadan 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by aribisala0(m): 11:51am On Apr 07, 2017 |
kingzizzy:Good job |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 12:53pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Can you provide evidence of Yoruba ever calling anyone betrayers or complaining about the political choices of anyone If people don't side with us that is their right maybe we can persuade them next time, that is our attitude. We understand their right to act in their own interests and respect it. We don't start abusing them or acting like a jilted lover.That is childish You are free to do what you want politically why can't you respect the right of others to do so Lol! Yorubas continuously propagate the propaganda of Zik stopping Awolowo and Yoruba from secession from Nigeria. They accuse Zik and NCNC of forming alliance with NPC instead of Awolowo, without telling themselves the whole story. The only people not respecting people's right to do what they want politically are Yorubas, who were most vocal in 60's in calling for Igbo extermination because of our secession political choice. The same Yorubas who are all over the internet today convulsing over Igbo political orientation of self determination. Yorubas are the one all over the internet calling Biafra Biafrau.d, Goading the NA and NPF to shoot innocent Biafran protesters, and going into joyous frenzy once the Gore pics of massacred Biafrans circulate the internet. 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 12:58pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Where were Eboe leaders in 2011 when the likes of Wole Soyinka and Tunde Bakare were fighting for the so called SOUTHERN President? Never knew that Bakare and Soyinka are now Akunyili who called the bluff of Turai kitchen cabinet. Keep deceiving yourselves. 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 1:06pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
The Yoruba have ALWAYS stood alone politically in Nigeria in opposition. Why are the Eboes so afraid of this and now decamping to the so called Yoruba party? Shameless Lol! How you lots can keep straight face while reeling out these lies is still a wonder. Awolowo stood with Northern minority party UMBC in 1959, could have probably sealed a deal with NPC later, if Zik was no savvy enough to move faster. Kayode and Akintola led Yorubas into a union with NNA in 1964 under NNDP. Akintola was the premier of the Western region and had many Yoruba supporters. Awolowo and Yoruba went into union with the North and Gowon in 1967, and were the mouthpiece of Gowon and the North during the war. Obasanjo was a Northern yes man. Buhari had Babatunde Idiagbon as his Deputy in the 80's The list is endless. 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by papikay247: 1:34pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
mightyhaze:, before any betrayal or backstabbing, there must be an ALLIANCE. Could you please tell us anytime the Igbos have had an alliance with the Yorubas that the Yorubas betrayed them in the history of this country? 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by aribisala0(m): 1:39pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
papikay247:Yoruba can never have alliance with Eboes in politics maybe in crime,fraud,forgery and drugs they can do collabos 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Ovamboland(m): 2:56pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
pazienza: Revisonist and lies, it was Zik and ibos who broke southern solidarity first in 1960 by teaming up with Fulani led government. Akintola was a renegade government in Yoruba under whom the region became ungovernable due to popular Yoruba revolt. Akintola found solace in Zik and Balewa government as a tool to be used to cut Awolowo to size. ZIK choose alliance with Fulani believing them to be stupid and not needing to compete with Yoruba for appointment.Thats why ibos were appointed to head schools like Unilag, UI. When the selfish calculation failed to yield adequate returns and Zik made strictly a spectator in government, he now started the song of southern solidarity. With Awolowo out of the way in jail he now attempted to harvest Yoruba votes based on Igbo led UPGA. The renegade Akintola repaid Zik in his own coin and did exactly what Zik did in 1960. Akintola saw through Zik deceit and chose alliance with Fulani for that he became bad to Ibos while Zik remains good to the ibos for alliance with same Fulani. For Akintola dalliance with Zik and Saraduna to jail Awolowo and for joining Yorubas to unwanted government he was never accepted as leader by Yorubas. That's why Akintola was not missed in the west when a faction of his central government friends came to kill him. 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by tifany89(m): 2:57pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
[quote author=ElsonMorali post=55340243][/quote] Typical. I would have been really surprised if you could come up with something intelligent. Get lost dude |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by amc: 3:34pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
So why was Nnamdi Kanu calling for the killing of Yorubas? 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by aribisala0(m): 3:38pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
pazienza:Akunyuli? You folk have no shame. You just lie like children 5 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Nobody: 3:44pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
kingzizzy:if you want to secede, do so, it is non-of our business. we arent stoping you from anything, or do you need our blessings to secede? you can see why i said your folks are crybabies, irrational and witless |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Nobody: 3:56pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Ghj 5 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by chibuzorAbia: 4:47pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
ALLIANCE WITH Igbo!!! GOD FORBID! 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 6:46pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Revisonist and lies, it was Zik and ibos who broke southern solidarity first in 1960 by teaming up with Fulani led government. Akintola was a renegade government in Yoruba under whom the region became ungovernable due to popular Yoruba revolt. Akintola was a Yoruba premier with Yoruba supporters. Only you know what you are rambling about. Akintola supporters who were Yorubas were fighting with Awolowo supporters who were also Yorubas. That's what happened, it wasn't different from what you lots were doing during Kiriji. Political maturity and peaceful resolution of intra ethnic conflicts had never beenYoruba strong points. Akintola and Awo treachery left Zik with no choice in 1959. 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 6:51pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Akintola found solace in Zik and Balewa government as a tool to be used to cut Awolowo to size. Akintola was never friends with Zik or Ndiigbo. He was Igbophobic by default, as is expected of most Yorubas. Akintola found solace in Saraduna/Balewa, just like Afonja took in solace in Alimi. It was Akintola Afonjaic nature calling out to him. Your attempts at puting Zik and Ndiigbo into Akintola re enactment of Afonja season 2, is at best desperate. 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 7:06pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
ZIK choose alliance with Fulani believing them to be stupid and not needing to compete with Yoruba for appointment.Thats why ibos were appointed to head schools like Unilag, UI. When the selfish calculation failed to yield adequate returns and Zik made strictly a spectator in government, he now started the song of southern solidarity. With Awolowo out of the way in jail he now attempted to harvest Yoruba votes based on Igbo led UPGA. The renegade Akintola repaid Zik in his own coin and did exactly what Zik did in 1960. Awolowo and Akintola treachery forced Zik into alliance with the North. Igbos were heads in those schools as with most things in those era, because they were the best of the bests, and would still head most things in today's Nigeria, if Federal character is removed. Deal with it. Akintola and his hordes of Yoruba supporters were never in for Southern Solidarity, he was in North making plans to form union with Balewa, while Awolowo was in Enugu telling Zik about Southern solidarity. Double agents! Akintola it was who broke Southern unity in 1964, when he united with NNA.He was Yoruba premier with many Yoruba supporters who were willing to kill for him. Deal with it. Awolowo was sent to prison by Akintola, who sought to replace Awolowo as the leader of Yorubas and like Afonja, needed the help of Alimi to do that. With Awolowo in jail, Akintola needed to strike the rod when it was still hot, so he started his moves to take total control of the Western parliament. The Awoist stood in his way and Western region became engulfed in Anarchy. This was the story of Akintola- Awolowo and Saraduna as we knew it. It was the classical repeat of Afonja/Alimi story. Any attempts to distort facts and make Azikiwe/ Ndiigbo part of the story, in other to save face, by the Yorubas, will always be exposed as falsehood it is, and remains. 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by AshiwajuFoward: 7:07pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Yigbos are such shameless hypocrites. Smh. Zik formed alliance with Abokis because he was 'left without a choice'. But Akintola (and by extension Yorubas) supposedly (according to them) 'broke' their phantom 'Southern Solidarity' by going into an alliance with the same Abokis after Zik's Aboki collabo broke down. That's typical yigbo sick reasoning in full glare. Smh. 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 7:12pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Akintola saw through Zik deceit and chose alliance with Fulani for that he became bad to Ibos while Zik remains good to the ibos for alliance with same Fulani. For Akintola dalliance with Zik and Saraduna to jail Awolowo and for joining Yorubas to unwanted government he was never accepted as leader by Yorubas. That's why Akintola was not missed in the west when a faction of his central government friends came to kill him. Akintola was a typical Afonja that started seeking out his Alimi since 1959. His attempts as aligning with the NPC in 1959 was what forced Zik into alliance with the North to curtail that. Akintola would not stop. He successfully invited Saraduna Who helped him unseat Awolowo, imprisoned him using hard core evidences and sealed a union with Arewa. Akintola was well supported as a Yoruba leader, he had his supporters all over the Western region. Just as Awolowo had his. Both of them tore the region into two Waring factions. Yorubas cried about Akintola death after the coup, and accused Igbos of being behind his death till this day, because they believed that Yorubas stood to profit from Akintola NNDP New alliance with the North. You deceive no one. 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by pazienza(m): 7:18pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
AshiwajuFoward: In one breathe, Akintola was a renegade, a non Yoruba leader, and in another, he becomes a Wise Yoruba leader whose union with Arewa was smart and aimed at saving Yorubas from phantom Igbo domination. You lots have to atleast try and keep your story straight. 4 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by obaaderemi: 7:21pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
AshiwajuFoward:Who cares what the ibos think?and I don't think right thinking ibos also care what yorubas think.But many ibos like the one who has been running amok here keep twisting the narrative to sooth his tortured soul.Both groups(ibos and Yorubas)through their leaders made decisions the consequences of which both groups face today.But one group continues to cry and blame everyone else for what it faces today.That group remains embittered eternally. 4 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by AshiwajuFoward: 7:35pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
pazienza: Guy STFU. Whether Akintola was widely accepted as a Yoruba leader relative to Awo isn't important here. The FACT that you can't wish away remains that your Yigbo leader Zik set the precedent of breaking your so-called Southern solidarity. You excuse that away by claiming Zik was left without a choice. How convenient. It's ok for you pricks to romance Balewa and Shagari as second in-command ('President' and VP), not once but twice (fvck southern solidarity when that happened coz Yigbos are allowed to do that, coz both times y'all were left with no choice). Where the fvck was Southern solidarity then?? Who are you fooling if not yourself. Shior. 6 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by aribisala0(m): 7:36pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
The bottom line is Yorubas are indifferent to Eboes, they are irrelevant to us. The only reason this rubbish carries on is Eboes hatred and impotent desire to get even for perceived wrongs. So we have to constantly react to their pesky attempts to rewrite history otherwise they are inconsequential to us as a people and their land.If we agreed that everyone should stay in their place Yorubas have no problem the entire Eboeland is smaller than Oyo state 5 Likes |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Nobody: 7:53pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
back from 1week ban...Ok |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Nobody: 7:56pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
aribisala0:Igboland smaller than Oyo state...After all of awolowo free education.. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by aribisala0(m): 8:03pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
ikeadewole:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_states_by_area Kontinu claiming other people's lands Kontinu |
Re: Igbo Yoruba Cold War. And The Winner Is! by Nobody: 8:12pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
aribisala0:so google is saying lie...Why is the governor of delta and rivers Igbo....There is a diffreance between tribe/state/region you this descendent of fallen angel.. 2 Likes |
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