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Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by mickeyrova(m): 3:10pm On Apr 09, 2017
MICHEALADEX:
is like he's got brain mucus and thanks for noting that.

I feel like flogging somebody
cool
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by xerxes456(m): 3:10pm On Apr 09, 2017
Let her go to court, the media is full of people most of whom are very gullible especially when it's a case against a man of God... so she's taking advantage of it to gather fans, supporters etc just to get more followers and gain popularity...
Go To Court and prove ur case OTOBOTOBO...
which kain name be dat sef?

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Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by fratermathy(m): 3:16pm On Apr 09, 2017
southpole:

Your argument about Suleiman's picture made me to doubt your argument. I am neither supporting him nor among those crucifying him except that I am interested in reading critical thinking arguments. The fact that Google does not have his pictures in its search engine does not mean that it can not be found anywhere. By the way Google and all other search engines and directorates do not contain everything except those uploaded by humans. Suleiman has written many booklets and other print materials that carry his pictures both on the cover and inside which anybody can scan and use, there are thousands of his church posters with his photographs pasted in some major cities in Nigeria which can also be extracted. Also anybody cab snap him with a camera during church service or programme like is very common in Nigeria... there are so many ways to get his photograph please.

So from your explanation now, this picture below was gotten from a book cover or a church poster? Can you provide any single source where she may have gotten the photo from?



Kindly reply please since you know so much about how Su-LAIR-man's private picture can turn up on the Internet.

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Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by fratermathy(m): 3:20pm On Apr 09, 2017
Daddybright1986:


All this Muslims Afonjas who thinks through anus.........wat trash have you just type.... D rat of God will soon befalls you guys.....kontinu

I'm not a Muslim and I'm not Yoruba.

Funny enough, I'm from the same region as Su-LAIR-man.

But I don't let religion and ethnicity becloud me from the facts of this matter and the simple truth is that Su-LAIR-man has not done anything to prove his innocence other than threatening innocent members with death should they criticise "men-of-God."

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Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by Ijaya123: 3:22pm On Apr 09, 2017
kolaaderin:


Can you hear yourself out, he could send millions to someone living in Canada when 80% of people he could see every day in Nigeria only needs few thousands of naira to keep surviving. Talk of misplaced priority in spending peoples money.

Do you know how many people the man gives money and other gifts to from time to time?

Guess you missed that part in my comment in your desperation to condemn the man. Moreover, are his church members complaining?

Misplaced criticism.
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by Caseless: 3:25pm On Apr 09, 2017
Georgville:
It could be she took the screen shots same day they chatted, hence the time indicator on the messages.
you get brain.
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by dominusgai(m): 3:26pm On Apr 09, 2017
fratermathy:
Sometimes you should think. Yorubas would say "ronu"!

She returned to Canada, got a new device, logged in with BBID, recovered messages saved on BES and Blackberry Backup. This also explains why the time is in the present.

She released her statement of account showing UBA official stamp. I hope you are aware that UBA can even lock her up immediately for that? Has UBA refuted the said document yet?

As for the BBM chat, there are two timelines here: one is from when they initially started, hence the Canadian network (Fido) showing there. The others are from when things went sour, hence the Etisalat (she was presumably in Nigeria then as her story also confirms).

The FaceTime screenshot she shared has been authenticated already so it's old news but even if it was fake, WHERE DID SHE GET HIS PICTURES FROM? I searched for Su-LAIR-man's pics online and couldn't see any that featured in the FaceTime chats and even these BBM DPs.

Even Su-LAIR-man has not denied any of these claims, he only deflected them. He's busy running from pillar to post doing media control, further making him ridiculous. He should just shut up and go to the sidelines if he doesn't want to confess YET. I emphasised "yet" because he would eventually do that whether he likes it or not.

Why am I surprised you can't piece together the puzzle? Sheep aren't known for being very bright. Even if a video is released, you guys will come out and shout that it was videoshopped! Some of you are asking for pictures of both of them together. If that is released today, you will come and say it is also photoshopped. Finally, you guys' opinion on this matter won't change the glaring facts. After all, you are the ones that also lied that Otobo went to Auchi to confess when that was also a lie! Like "apostle", like sheeple.

As for Su-LAIR-man, better go and confess your evildoings. Your media crew and defenders are only making things worse for you. Silly defences such as these reveal that they are ready to be blinded forever. Imagine him telling those who "contemplated believing" the scandal to knock themselves from "stupidity"! Later he threatened that anyone who criticises him or any pastor would have his/her life cut short. What a pastor!

If any of you sheeple dare quote/mention me to say rubbish, I will ridicule you and the man that you worship further.

I must first of all say you are talking nonsense.
As for message retrieval, even if you retrieve a bbm message, it will still only show the date of creation not date of retrieval. I have flashed and recovered numerous Bb devices. not one device has ever shown the date of retrieval, only the date of creation

for the statement of account, pastor Suleiman said before that he sent her money cos she asked. I personally know people that have received money from pastors.

for the face time picture, please who authenticated it? was it facetime ? I know for a fact face time will not do that without a court order. and bro, hope you do know they are at least nine people in the world that looks exactly like you. I have seen more that four people that are completely unrelated but look so much alike you can argue they are the same person. so I can believe she found someone that looked like Suleiman, took a pic and claimed it was him. that is why us will never convict a victim based on video recording alone without eye witness or fingerprints.

And bro, pastor Suleiman has indeed denied the claim.

then use ur brain o. if you can snap a face time pic, you can as well record a face time video. why no video recording of the chat

she said they were sleeping in one protea hotel. all protea hotels have security cams. and a good reporter should be able to get a cam video of both of them coming in at the same day.
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by fratermathy(m): 3:29pm On Apr 09, 2017
dominusgai:


I must first of all say you are talking nonsense.
As for message retrieval, even if you retrieve a bbm message, it will still only show the date of creation not date of retrieval. I have flashed and recovered numerous Bb devices. not one device has ever shown the date of retrieval, only the date of creation

for the statement of account, pastor Suleiman said before that he sent her money cos she asked. I personally know people that have received money from pastors.

for the face time picture, please who authenticated it? was it facetime ? I know for a fact face time will not do that without a court order. and bro, hope you do know they are at least nine people in the world that looks exactly like you. I have seen more that four people that are completely unrelated but look so much alike you can argue they are the same person. so I can believe she found someone that looked like Suleiman, took a pic and claimed it was him. that is why us will never convict a victim based on video recording alone without eye witness or fingerprints.

And bro, pastor Suleiman has indeed denied the claim.

then use ur brain o. if you can snap a face time pic, you can as well record a face time video. why no video recording of the chat

she said they were sleeping in one protea hotel. all protea hotels have security cams. and a good reporter should be able to get a cam video of both of them coming in at the same day.

All these ones you are saying is for you and your fellow sheeple.
The BBM messages I retrieved in 2015 looked exactly like the one Otobo released so I don't know what the hell you are talking about.

So Otobo, the "stripper", "marine agent", "BMC and EMC agent", "prostitute", etc, was sent millions repeatedly by the shepherd abi? Just like that? Okay na. Kwantinue!

Since people resemble each other, go and look for the Suleiman look alike and show us because until I see one, that picture remains his!

He never denied anything. He only deflected it. Check what the word means.

Dominusgai, I'll let you believe what you want. You are entitled to your idiocy. It's a fundamental human right after all.

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Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by dominusgai(m): 3:34pm On Apr 09, 2017
SenatorAiyzik:
No jokes here ..no sentiments..i believe Otobo 100%. If she has faked all these then the pastor should come our openly like she did and prove otherwise. Stephanie keeps giving us proofs at everytime but johnson has nothing to conflict/contradict these proofs.. fellow Nigerians, if it were to be a court of law johnson would have lost this case and be thrown in jail. Let's remove religious sentiments.. imagine if this was going on between two ordinary persons where no one is a public figure, we would all believe Stephanie.. so why is it different now ...why are we throwing defenses?? Simple..because its suleiman, because we are bringing in religious sentiments.. because some of us are from Omega Fire...haba nairalaaaaand!
bro, the burden of proof is not on the defender but on the accuser. I have no obligation to provide proof against a claim when I see that the proof provided by the accuser would not fly in court.
if you say I committed a crime, it is your job to bring unreproachable proof and so far so good, all the evidence this girl is bringing is highly reproachable.

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Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by ISTANDWITHBUHAR: 3:35pm On Apr 09, 2017
Georgville:
It could be she took the screen shots same day they chatted, hence the time indicator on the messages.

God bless you, No mind the OP trying to defend his daddy G.O... Yahoo boy pastors..

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Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by dominusgai(m): 3:51pm On Apr 09, 2017
ILoveToFuCcK:

You mumu o...
You're using a q10 she's using an IPhone

The bbm of blackberry itself show dates while that of IPhone doesn't show dates

Oya talk another one undecided

brother, you are wrong. the bbm of iPhone does carry date. I had a boss with bbm on her iPhone. the date of the message is shown clearly. also you can goggle it

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Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by dominusgai(m): 3:58pm On Apr 09, 2017
ISTANDWITHBUHAR:


God bless you, No mind the OP trying to defend his daddy G.O... Yahoo boy pastors..

Brother, stop being foolish. there is no need screen shooting a chat message for proof when you can wait a day or two and get a date that will not be contested. u no get sense. if na u wan blackmail person in three months, na dat same day when e send message u go snap am. when Beckham was accused of infidelity, all messages posted by the accuser showed the date of creation. you cannot want to show a message and show only time and expect the world to accept it.
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by linearity: 4:04pm On Apr 09, 2017
felixomor:


Bros, she lives in Canada, allegedly. Who received thousands of Euros as claimed.
They dont joke with womens health there.
Or u think roadside chemists dey there.....

Try again.
I am sorry to disappoint you, there roadside chemists and quack Doctors in the US, Canada, UK, etc, just like in Nigeria.

In some states in the US no hospital can perform abortion for you, but people still get them done in those states. Besides, where she might have done it is not relevant as she might have done anywhere, including Nigeria or some other countries...it is your assumption that, s such procedures are always documented is in error here.

Beside, the Pastor's camp said she collaborated with terrorists like Boko Haram and also that her lawyers are planning to kill her in order to blame it on the Pastor. One will think, given your tenacity for documented proofs, you would have been chasing down that proof as well. Because, I sensed that, had it been she was the one that made that allegation, you will be asking for the documented proof of the address of those BK in Sambisa forest, the IMEI number of their phone, the series number of their ak47, including the signed documents or video chat of the alleged killers.

My guy, your bias and hypocrisy is so glaring and open, I can ride a whole horse through it. Try, to be objective, be open minded, give both sides the benefits of a doubt and if you want to apply any yardstick at all, apply it to both sides equally.

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Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by AlanSugar(m): 4:04pm On Apr 09, 2017
Antares:

Me? Asked you that? Are you flying on crack?
I want to see you show me that question in quotes

So why did you swallow panadol for another man's headache Mr Antares? Gentle007 had asked the question and in that one line response of mine you threatened me with a deserved insult, why? Is dat what your god Suleman teaches you? You now see why you guys are the scum of this earth? A lot of people are in the know of what you church lot are into and that those who refuse to Key into your pranks should not be treated with disdain like you just attempted to do with me. I pray you change, knowledge they say is power, which is what Christ himself wished you when he said, "man, know thyself"

Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by dominusgai(m): 4:06pm On Apr 09, 2017
sircrabo:



Lol. BBM chats are automatically wiped after a period of time, I wonder how her phone managed to save chats for that long. Unless she screen grabbed it and saved for future use.

bro, bbm chats are never automatically wiped for any reason. it is only wiped when you destroy the sdcard that stores the messages.
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by felixomor: 4:07pm On Apr 09, 2017
linearity:

I am sorry to disappoint you, there roadside chemists and quack Doctors in the US, Canada, UK, etc, just like in Nigeria.

In some states in the US no hospital can perform abortion for you, but people still get them done in those states. Besides, where she might have done it is not relevant as she might have done anywhere, including Nigeria or some other countries...it is your assumption that, s such procedures are always documented is in error here.

Beside, the Pastor's camp said she collaborated with terrorists like Boko Haram and also that her lawyers are planning to kill her in order to blame it on the Pastor. One will think, given your tenacity for documented proofs, you would have been chasing down that proof as well. Because, I sensed that, had it been she was the one that made that allegation, you will be asking for the documented proof of the address of those BK in Sambisa forest, the IMEI number of their phone, the series number of their ak47, including the signed documents or video chat of the alleged killers.

My guy, your bias and hypocrisy is so glaring and open, I can ride a whole horse through it. Try, to be objective, be open minded, give both sides the benefits of a doubt and if you want to apply any yardstick at all, apply it to both sides equally.

I mentioned Canada but u cleverly started talking about America....
Its only a child u can catch like that, not me....

Please try again bro.
And please give me 3 reasons why she would patronize a quack? Knowing that someone was already allegedly attemting to kill her?
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by TrumpDonald2: 4:09pm On Apr 09, 2017
motherfucker:
I would expect to see a PAST date in Otobo BBM Chat for something that happened in the Past or is she telling us that Apostle suleiman is still chatting with her?

Look at the date of her own chat and ask yourself why is it having recent timing and dates?

Where are your dates? Only seeing the time.
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by dominusgai(m): 4:12pm On Apr 09, 2017
fratermathy:


All these ones you are saying is for you and your fellow sheeple.
The BBM messages I retrieved in 2015 looked exactly like the one Otobo released so I don't know what the hell you are talking about.

So Otobo, the "stripper", "marine agent", "BMC and EMC agent", "prostitute", etc, was sent millions repeatedly by the shepherd abi? Just like that? Okay na. Kwantinue!

Since people resemble each other, go and look for the Suleiman look alike and show us because until I see one, that picture remains his!

He never denied anything. He only deflected it. Check what the word means.

Dominusgai, I'll let you believe what you want. You are entitled to your idiocy. It's a fundamental human right after all.

your level of stupidity should not even be possible. but I don't want to argue much. if you are willing to make a bet. let us go to computer village, backup a Bb message, flash the phone and restore the message and see the date it carries.
stop peddling lies u idiot. I was a phone engineer for over three years. now am a web developer. there is no way you retrieve a message from 2015 and it does not carry the date. I am ready to put my money where my mouth is, are u?
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by paulpery: 4:13pm On Apr 09, 2017
Don't defend him. Let him go to court to defend himself. abi you be his church member?
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by Olulinks(m): 4:15pm On Apr 09, 2017
rusher14:

Doesn't matter if that was her intention.

The question should be was the pastor, a married man having an amorous relationship with her?
I don't know. That one, I can't answer. God knows all that's seems hidden to man.
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by Jerryolumide(m): 4:18pm On Apr 09, 2017
Georgville:
It could be she took the screen shots same day they chatted, hence the time indicator on the messages.
The question you should ask is why would she take SS of their chat?
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by voicelez: 4:18pm On Apr 09, 2017
motherfucker:
Hello everyone,

Otobo is truly a blackmailer. She keep shoving her "proof" down our throat like we were there when things was going on between them.

It's pity people are not using their brain or they are also part of the blackmail trying to pull the Apostle down.

All her supporters should tell her to carry her "proof" to court where it is highly needed and not social media. Only blackmailer does what she is currently doing and we are not stupid to believe her lies.

Sahara Reporter used "When things were good" to describe their report which means the date of the proof is in the Past and not current.


Look for a way to get Suleman attention to this your post. You just saved his image, wen he rewards you... don't forget me grin grin grin nice observation
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by fratermathy(m): 4:18pm On Apr 09, 2017
dominusgai:


your level of stupidity should not even be possible. but I don't want to argue much. if you are willing to make a bet. let us go to computer village, backup a Bb message, flash the phone and restore the message and see the date it carries.
stop peddling lies u idiot. I was a phone engineer for over three years. now am a web developer. there is no way you retrieve a message from 2015 and it does not carry the date. I am ready to put my money where my mouth is, are u?

And you think I'm not a web designer or don't have enough knowledge of phones? I write PHP, C#, Java and ASP!

I'm telling you that BB messages backed on BES server with BBID comes out exactly the way this one did. Those backed up on memory cards or internal storage is a different case entirely.

So stop acting like a guru and accept that your lord and master shined the congo of Otobo!
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by noblesteve(m): 4:21pm On Apr 09, 2017
;DWe are not compatible after you don smash finish
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by dominusgai(m): 4:25pm On Apr 09, 2017
fratermathy:


And you think I'm not a web designer or don't have enough knowledge of phones? I write PHP, C#, Java and ASP!

I'm telling you that BB messages backed on BES server with BBID comes out exactly the way this one did. Those backed up on memory cards or internal storage is a different case entirely.

So stop acting like a guru and accept that your lord and master shined the congo of Otobo!

Brother, let's put our money where our mouth is. take the bet if u are confident. cos I have retrieved messages both from sim cards and bbm backup. and I am telling you you are lying.
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by fratermathy(m): 4:49pm On Apr 09, 2017
dominusgai:


Brother, let's put our money where our mouth is. take the bet if u are confident. cos I have retrieved messages both from sim cards and bbm backup. and I am telling you you are lying.
And I'm saying I've confirmed it just the way she posted it. So?
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by MarieSucre(f): 4:50pm On Apr 09, 2017
Macwytt:
It pains me to see girls like this perpetrate such act and still be proud of it. What is her aim? Even if it's true, she should cover her head in shame for sleeping with a man of God knowing he's married. Girls of these days are to be feared, cus even the devil himself fears them.

Honestly, I have thought of this too myself. If I ever find out that the man I am dating is actually married. I fear I might do worse. I cannot let you make a fool out of me and just go back to your perfect life with your wife.

Hmmnn it'll take the grace of God for me to choose the option if forgiving and not confrontation.
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by snowblaq(f): 4:51pm On Apr 09, 2017
motherfucker:
the chance of such is very likely tend to zero. You know why? Let's assume they had a thing, which means all was going well with heightened excitements and you know when we are excited, keeping such records will be the last thing on our mind EXCEPT things turn sour. From going well to turning sour will take nothing less than 3 months. So,back dating is the key here.

...or is she trying to tell us that she has been screen grabbing all their chats since they began chatting ..in the hopes that wen things go wrong she would bring it out
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by ISTANDWITHBUHAR: 4:51pm On Apr 09, 2017
dominusgai:


Brother, stop being foolish. there is no need screen shooting a chat message for proof when you can wait a day or two and get a date that will not be contested. u no get sense. if na u wan blackmail person in three months, na dat same day when e send message u go snap am. when Beckham was accused of infidelity, all messages posted by the accuser showed the date of creation. you cannot want to show a message and show only time and expect the world to accept it.


You are the one that should stop being foolish and be reasonable for once, I don't care about the chat message, But what job did she do for Pastor Sule to make him send her #1million? Don't tell me the statement of account is also fake too..

Useless worshiper daddy G.O..
Re: Apostle Suleman: The Lies In Stephanie Otobo's BBM Chat by MarieSucre(f): 4:52pm On Apr 09, 2017
motherfucker:
be careful. You might be the next victim of a blackmail. It's no news that in Lagos some men have helped ladies by giving them a free ride only to be accused of sleeping with them without paying. Most of these men didn't know they were carrying prostitutes but they were subjected to public embarrassment to pay for crime they didn't commit and when crowd begin to gather, you would be damn not to comply.

Be careful not to send an innocent man to the grave like the ALUU4

We need to drill what is presented to us abi no b she carry her proof come like say we b court and expect the "court" not scrutinise what she presented?

This is very true. We know that people are very wary of men of Gid these days for a good reason at that. But let us calm our horses and examine the evidence. We must be careful not to roast an innocent man on the altar of public opinion. I am waiting for more info to come out.

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