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nengibo:
Hahahaha
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fratermathy:
I don't really care about this summit because it is not the first and won't be the last. So far, nothing has been done. South-South minorities like us never fail to realise that the Nigerian nation recognises only THREE ETHNIC GROUPS (IGBO, YORUBA, HAUSA)! The rest of us are like pawns and the nearest neighbour, being the Igbo, never fail to use us to their advantage, with sinister motives or not. I don't want to go into the politics of this forceful SS/SE union but I want to make some facts clear here as an Urhobo/Isoko, a Deltan and a SSner.

1. Obaino860 declared on this thread that SS is 90% Igbo and that all SS groups, including IJAW, speak Igbo and bear Igbo names. That is a blatant lie. It is lies like this that make us mistrust the Igbo motive in our affairs. In the SS, ONLY Delta North (Anioma) and Rivers (except Ijaw, Andoni and Ogoni) have connections with Igbo in any way. These people do not even make up to 20% of the entire SS region so where then have Obaino860 gotten this fact from? Urhobos/Isokos speak their own mutually intelligible languages that ARE IN NO WAY RELATED TO IGBO EVEN REMOTELY, Ijaws speak numerous mutually unintelligible languages that ARE IN NO WAY RELATED TO IGBO, Ogonis speak their own mutually unintelligible languages that ARE IN NO WAY RELATED TO IGBO, the Ibibiod ethnic cluster speak their own mutually intelligible languages that ARE IN NO WAY RELATED TO IGBO, Ekoi/Bette-Bendi/Ejagham and other Cross Riverian groups speak mutually unintelligible languages that ARE IN NO WAY RELATED TO IGBO, even some so-called Delta/Rivers Igboid groups, like Ukwuani, CLAIM to have their own languages!
On the issue of onomastics, the aforementioned groups, exceptions maintained, have no names that are similar to Igbo names. If there are any of such, it is pure happenstance and they definitely mean different things. Even culturally, the SS non-Igboid groups HAVE NOTHING in common with Igbo. This status quo is maintained politically and otherwise.

2. The SS/SE have every right to meet and talk about their future, just as the SS has same rights to do so with the SW, from whence many of the Edo/Delta groups politically evolved from. There is NOTHING special about this meeting. It is simply a political move engineered mostly by the SE, hence the Owerri location. The SS groups have different struggles from the SE. Although some of our struggles (such as true federalism) may overlap, we ultimately have different problems and aspirations. No matter how much we look at it, Igbo remains a MAJORITY ethnic group in Nigeria and thus, directly or indirectly, its people have joined the rest of the country to loot the SS region of its natural resources.

3. TippyTop, and many others, opined that the SS (especially the former Mid-Western Region) look up to the SE! This is another provocative lie to massage the Igbo ego. The former Mid-Western region comprises modern day Delta and Edo States and the people of these states, save for the 30% Anioma people in Delta and 1%(?) Ika in Edo, are IN NO WAY related to the SE politically, culturally or otherwise. In fact, I can assertively state that the South West and the North hold more influence in the SS (especially Edo/Delta States) than the SE does. This is especially true of our migratory patterns. Urhobos, for instance, NEVER migrate to the SE except something IMPORTANT takes them there. This contrasts greatly with the SW, where we have settled in large numbers. Same applies for Isoko, our sister tribe, and the pan-Edo groups. In fact, it is Igbos that settle in our areas.

4. The SE should start by getting its acts right and putting its house in order before extending whatever hands of friendship they want to. It also behoves the SSners to define THEIR FUTURE BY THEMSELVES!!! No group/region was appointed as our mouthpiece. In fact, no pan-SS group CAN EVER speak for the individual groups in the SS region. Each to his own tent. The only thing that binds us all together is the geopolitical term "South-South"! Consequently, the said summit that this thread informs us of is simply the device of a FEW people who have their own intents. As an Urhobo, I only pay allegiance to Urhobo Progress Union (UPU). Any other socio-political or economic group that claims to speak on behalf of my group is simply delusional!

5. On the issue of Biafra, which someone brought up, almost all the ethnic groups in the SS, including Urhobo (UPU), have made their stand clear on this. There is no need beating around the bush. Biafra is an IGBO ONLY affair and I support it wholeheartedly. Take your Igboid groups if they want but never extend your reach beyond your borders to drag actively or passively uninterested groups into it without proper consultations with the designated mouthpieces of these groups.


Finally, I stand for unity at all times. Nigeria, as a nation, needs unity. If this means that we have to extend hands of friendships to our closest neighbours, then we should. However, we must draw the line between unity and hegemony. When larger groups attempt to hegemonise smaller groups, caution must be applied. In Nigeria, political interest is all that matters. As it is now, the SS and SE have different political interests. Any act of unity is done simply by virtue of the NIGERIAN CAMARADERIE SPIRIT!!!!, NOTHING ELSE!!! So all those cogitating deeply on the said summit should stop reading meanings to things that are not there.


Semper Fi!!!


***If you quote me to spew bigoted bunkum, I will use your own medicine against you.

Amarabae:
what do you mean by that statement? Can you explain.

nengibo:
Hahahaha
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nengibo:
Ask your ipob brothers

RickyTan:
Mr NO TRIBE pls be quiet.
General Achuzie of Asaba - head of Ipob himself will fix you
Your entire tribe I m sure is not even 1 million and you here making noise
Greater Aba alone is more than 1 million and you here talking.
Oya we dey wait you now. COme

nengibo:
Lol, yet the people from the tribe of 10 billion are forming attache and can't produce president

RickyTan:
The millions upon millions of Igbos in Lagos state alone pass your entire tribe
When Igbos were producing president your papa neva own bicycle
Second there is nothing like attache. Igbo is Igbo.
From Igboakiri ( Igbanke) to Afikpo
From Igwuocha to Nsukka

nengibo:
Attache, from the tribe of 10 billion with the power 10 votes

RickyTan:
Obviously you are just repeating your self bc you have no argument
The Igbo nation is proud. Just Try us if you dare
No need for further time wasting with you

fratermathy:
I don't really care about this summit because it is not the first and won't be the last. So far, nothing has been done. South-South minorities like us never fail to realise that the Nigerian nation recognises only THREE ETHNIC GROUPS (IGBO, YORUBA, HAUSA)! The rest of us are like pawns and the nearest neighbour, being the Igbo, never fail to use us to their advantage, with sinister motives or not. I don't want to go into the politics of this forceful SS/SE union but I want to make some facts clear here as an Urhobo/Isoko, a Deltan and a SSner.

1. Obaino860 declared on this thread that SS is 90% Igbo and that all SS groups, including IJAW, speak Igbo and bear Igbo names. That is a blatant lie. It is lies like this that make us mistrust the Igbo motive in our affairs. In the SS, ONLY Delta North (Anioma) and Rivers (except Ijaw, Andoni and Ogoni) have connections with Igbo in any way. These people do not even make up to 20% of the entire SS region so where then have Obaino860 gotten this fact from? Urhobos/Isokos speak their own mutually intelligible languages that ARE IN NO WAY RELATED TO IGBO EVEN REMOTELY, Ijaws speak numerous mutually unintelligible languages that ARE IN NO WAY RELATED TO IGBO, Ogonis speak their own mutually unintelligible languages that ARE IN NO WAY RELATED TO IGBO, the Ibibiod ethnic cluster speak their own mutually intelligible languages that ARE IN NO WAY RELATED TO IGBO, Ekoi/Bette-Bendi/Ejagham and other Cross Riverian groups speak mutually unintelligible languages that ARE IN NO WAY RELATED TO IGBO, even some so-called Delta/Rivers Igboid groups, like Ukwuani, CLAIM to have their own languages!
On the issue of onomastics, the aforementioned groups, exceptions maintained, have no names that are similar to Igbo names. If there are any of such, it is pure happenstance and they definitely mean different things. Even culturally, the SS non-Igboid groups HAVE NOTHING in common with Igbo. This status quo is maintained politically and otherwise.

2. The SS/SE have every right to meet and talk about their future, just as the SS has same rights to do so with the SW, from whence many of the Edo/Delta groups politically evolved from. There is NOTHING special about this meeting. It is simply a political move engineered mostly by the SE, hence the Owerri location. The SS groups have different struggles from the SE. Although some of our struggles (such as true federalism) may overlap, we ultimately have different problems and aspirations. No matter how much we look at it, Igbo remains a MAJORITY ethnic group in Nigeria and thus, directly or indirectly, its people have joined the rest of the country to loot the SS region of its natural resources.

3. TippyTop, and many others, opined that the SS (especially the former Mid-Western Region) look up to the SE! This is another provocative lie to massage the Igbo ego. The former Mid-Western region comprises modern day Delta and Edo States and the people of these states, save for the 30% Anioma people in Delta and 1%(?) Ika in Edo, are IN NO WAY related to the SE politically, culturally or otherwise. In fact, I can assertively state that the South West and the North hold more influence in the SS (especially Edo/Delta States) than the SE does. This is especially true of our migratory patterns. Urhobos, for instance, NEVER migrate to the SE except something IMPORTANT takes them there. This contrasts greatly with the SW, where we have settled in large numbers. Same applies for Isoko, our sister tribe, and the pan-Edo groups. In fact, it is Igbos that settle in our areas.

4. The SE should start by getting its acts right and putting its house in order before extending whatever hands of friendship they want to. It also behoves the SSners to define THEIR FUTURE BY THEMSELVES!!! No group/region was appointed as our mouthpiece. In fact, no pan-SS group CAN EVER speak for the individual groups in the SS region. Each to his own tent. The only thing that binds us all together is the geopolitical term "South-South"! Consequently, the said summit that this thread informs us of is simply the device of a FEW people who have their own intents. As an Urhobo, I only pay allegiance to Urhobo Progress Union (UPU). Any other socio-political or economic group that claims to speak on behalf of my group is simply delusional!

5. On the issue of Biafra, which someone brought up, almost all the ethnic groups in the SS, including Urhobo (UPU), have made their stand clear on this. There is no need beating around the bush. Biafra is an IGBO ONLY affair and I support it wholeheartedly. Take your Igboid groups if they want but never extend your reach beyond your borders to drag actively or passively uninterested groups into it without proper consultations with the designated mouthpieces of these groups.


Finally, I stand for unity at all times. Nigeria, as a nation, needs unity. If this means that we have to extend hands of friendships to our closest neighbours, then we should. However, we must draw the line between unity and hegemony. When larger groups attempt to hegemonise smaller groups, caution must be applied. In Nigeria, political interest is all that matters. As it is now, the SS and SE have different political interests. Any act of unity is done simply by virtue of the NIGERIAN CAMARADERIE SPIRIT!!!!, NOTHING ELSE!!! So all those cogitating deeply on the said summit should stop reading meanings to things that are not there.


Semper Fi!!!


***If you quote me to spew bigoted bunkum, I will use your own medicine against you.

nengibo:
Look at the title of this thread and you will see that your chest beating is pointless, "try us if you dare" how old are u? 7? , if being igbo helped anybody, Ojukwu would have been president

Cc..self acclaimed slaves of Nigeria

obaino860:
I hope you will end up telling Asari dokubo and Co this trash.....you that is claiming SS....are SS united in anyway....An akawibom man has much to do with an abia man because they are a major neighbour,than your so called urhobo people....
The distance from ur Edo/urhobo is far from portharcout, bayelsa,akawibom,cross river....than the whole southeastern state....
Last week the Obong of calabar in crossriver state was clamouring that road should be dualized from calabar to Aba....
So young man...we don't need you people...urhobo/Edo...you are trouble makers....Anioma is where the capital is,and we have a good relationship with them....
Go and embrace the northerners and westerners...we don't care...after all they are ur closest neighbors...... you can go with the isekiri...because we don't need noise makers like you people....

obaino860:
Afonjas should go and meet their Muslim brothers..... For your information, we the SS/SE are 100% Christian.

Tflex01:
So if Oba of Benin is clamoring for the dualization of Benin-Akure or Benin-Ore road, we can assume Yorubas and Binis are up to something serious together right?

RickyTan:
The millions upon millions of Igbos in Lagos state alone pass your entire tribe
When Igbos were producing president your papa neva own bicycle
Second there is nothing like attache. Igbo is Igbo.
From Igboakiri ( Igbanke) to Afikpo
From Igwuocha to Nsukka

RickyTan:
Senseless post from a certified IGBO hater.
FYI much greater men with far more means than you have fought and hated on the IGBOS and yet we still here and have recovered from the war. [s]We have bought up Lagos and Abuja from 20 pounds. Rebuilt our industries and WE THANK OUR GOD, CHUKWU OKIKE ABIAMA for HIS MANY BLESSINGS.[/s]

As for president, Buhari is President yet Emir Sanusi is complaining about hordes of northern beggars threatening the north. President Ojukwu is a bonafide legend. The missiles and weapons that he was producing in the 1960s, Nigeria cannot even produce today.

The long and short is that the Igbo nation is blessed and ALL you can do is hate.

ichukwu48:
The saddest thing about this whole scenario is that you don't even realize writing this entire novel to try and explain why your tribal identity claiming keep switching up left and right makes you GUILTY as Bleep as a wannabe.
Like seriously dude?

That's the saddest thing about it.

Anyway, I would prompt you to go into writing. You'll make a good novelist. Thank you for the story.

RickyTan:
You are a liar. Yoruba lair
Ikwerre is 100% Igbo Clan.
Ask Igbo man Gov Chibuike Amaechi

Niger Delta is a geographical region.
Anyways Igbos full Niger Delta region to start with
From Calabar to Igwuocha to Asaba and back

Tflex01:
So if Oba of Benin is clamoring for the dualization of Benin-Akure or Benin-Ore road, we can assume Yorubas and Binis are up to something serious together right?

YelloweWest:
Hahahahaha very funny. I'm Ikwerre.

Just call any Ikwerre man Igbo and you'll see his quick response.

We call igbo people nde isoma. Ikwerre may have migrated from Igbo land but they want nothing to do with biafra.

I have nothing against biafra movement but just trying to drama the Niger Delta region into it.

obaino860:
Afonja man claiming Ikwerre.....
let me ask you simple question....
My mum is an Ikwerre woman and she is from abali clam...
what clam are you from ikwerre

obaino860:
That is to tell you how it will benefit them economically.......someone can not leave vital tons behind and start clamouring for sometin that will not benefit him....
Amaechi on assumption of office as transport minister, immediately commissioned a rail coach that will shuttle Aba and portharcout everyday..
Godswill akpabio first dualise ikotekpene --Aba road first before any other road in akawaibom...
Da know what benefits them economically.....

You can not stay in your Oshogbo town of 1 million miles from here and dictate to us what happens in our region...
SS/SE are close and are just 1km apart...you go and mingle with ur northern neighbours.....
SW/north are majorly Muslim...we are Christian...

bakynes:
Guy have noticed your post since the first few pages. Use your sense in issues. There is no tribe called SS we know the entire SE is 98% Igbo with a few igalas,SW 98% Yoruba. SS has many tribes just like the North central many of which are in no way related to Igbos. So stop trying to force people into your Biafra. Edo people,Itshekiri,Isoko,Ogoni,Ijaw,Ibibio,Urhobo and many more are in no way related to Igbos.

If you want to form your Biafra go with your Igbo speaking brothers in the SS but to lump the entire SS into your biafra means you have an evil agenda.

Even before the creation of Mid-west region Old Bendel was part of Western region.

I know you will be needing their Seaport and Oil to thrive but ask politely if they would like to join you in Biafra don't do attachee by force as if they are closely related to Igbos.

YelloweWest:
What family in abali??

I'm from Orije
Are u satisfied?

obaino860:
Afonja....Oya come down all the way from Oshogbo of 1million kilometer and separate two brothers that are not up to 1km apart....
I have always told you, we are not Muslims...we are christian, we don't have anything to do with you people......

bakynes:
See this idiot who can't engage me constructively just shouting Afonja Up and down. Yoruba's are even more recognized in Christianity than Igbos.

Which brothers? Igbo and Benin get anything in common or Igbos and Itshekiri has anything in common.

Is Obvious you are looking for who to play with this morning I don't have your time.

Tflex01:
It's like I've stayed in this region more than some of you guys claiming SS/SE.....


There are Muslims in all the 11 states..... In fact, there are more Muslims in Edo than Ekiti state. Fact!

Amarabae:
what do you mean by that statement? Can you explain.

YelloweWest:
You are quite correct! If u have screenshots of me claims to be ijaw u should also have some of me claiming to be ikwerre as well cos I claim both tribes jointly.

Now let me school u.

I am both Ikwerre and Ijaw! You must be a REAL MAN to marry me or my sisters cos you'll pay bride price twice. By the way we were all married before age 26. All Dr's or lawyers.

Now my great grandfather who was a prominent chief in Ikwerre had no male child. He had 3 daughter. The first 2 got married. The last one which is my grandma got pregnant in her father's house and gave birth to a boy!

Her father was so happy he decided she will never marry but only have more children in her father's house.

However she met my grandfather. A rich and prominent Kalabari chief. He was educated. A one time controlers of Petroleum resources throught out the former estern region. And later a member of house of representatives. His father was a Major in the army and also educated. He was one of the few translators we had between us and the colonial masters.

As a prominent man he came to marry my grandmother but her father refused to collect the bride price. Every other ceremony was done.

My grandma lived withe him and the had 7 kids the fist son of which is my dad!

After the death of my grandma's father ( the Ikwerre cheif) she would often return back to her father's house with her kids (except for my father, cos bring a first son his father the Kalabari cheif refused.) because her father begged her not to allow his properties to fall into the hands of his brothers that she and all her children should inherit his property.

Today my father built his house on the land he inherited from his maternal grandfather. But we are still Kalabari. We bear our Kalabari surname. However we don't deny being Ikwerre.

When my parents and siblings returned back to Nigeria we settled in my father's house in Ogbumunabali. I lived there till I got married.

So there is no deception. I am both Kalabari and Ikwerre!

From the beautiful and blessed Niger Delta.

RickyTan:
Senseless post from a certified IGBO hater.
FYI much greater men with far more means than you have fought and hated on the IGBOS and yet we still here and have recovered from the war. We have bought up Lagos and Abuja from 20 pounds. Rebuilt our industries and WE THANK OUR GOD, CHUKWU OKIKE ABIAMA for HIS MANY BLESSINGS.

As for president, Buhari is President yet Emir Sanusi is complaining about hordes of northern beggars threatening the north. President Ojukwu is a bonafide legend. The missiles and weapons that he was producing in the 1960s, Nigeria cannot even produce today.

The long and short is that the Igbo nation is blessed and ALL you can do is hate.

bakynes:
See this idiot who can't engage me constructively just shouting Afonja Up and down. Yoruba's are even more recognized in Christianity than Igbos.

Which brothers? Igbo and Benin get anything in common or Igbos and Itshekiri has anything in common.

Is Obvious you are looking for who to play with this morning I don't have your time.