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Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by wintersnow(m): 6:12pm On Apr 20, 2017
Russia's Supreme Court ruled on Thursday that Jehovah's Witnesses was an "extremist" organisation and must hand over all its property to the state, Russian news agencies reported.

Interfax news agency quoted Sergei Cherepanov, a Jehovah's Witnesses representative, as saying that the group will appeal the decision in the European Court of Human Rights.


"We will do everything possible," he said.

Russian authorities have put several of the group's publications on a list of banned extremist literature and prosecutors have long cast it as an organisation that destroys families, fosters hatred and threatens lives.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN17M1ZT
Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Nobody: 6:20pm On Apr 20, 2017
Persecuting Christian is not the right thing to do, at least this of people preacher about been a better person

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by An2elect2(f): 6:37pm On Apr 20, 2017
HsLBroker:
Persecuting Christian is not the right thing to do, at least this of people preacher about been a better person
You can't be a Christian if you deny the deity of Christ. Neither can you be one by being "a better person" They are not Christians. Just another apostate religious system.

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Ubenedictus(m): 7:59pm On Apr 20, 2017
An2elect2:
You can't be a Christian if you deny the deity of Christ. Neither can you be one by being "a better person" They are not Christians. Just another apostate religious system.


I don't call non trinitarians christians...but these people profess Jesus as Lord, have a little compassion.

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by analice107: 8:34pm On Apr 20, 2017
HsLBroker:
Persecuting Christian is not the right thing to do, at least this of people preacher about been a better person
Jehovah's Witnesses is not a Christian organization pls.

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by analice107: 8:37pm On Apr 20, 2017
Ubenedictus:
I don't call non trinitarians christians...but these people profess Jesus as Lord, have a little compassion.
I think they deny Christ his divinity.


The Holy Spirit is just a life force, nothing more.

Jesus was an Angel before coming to earth, now that He is gone back to heaven, He went back to being and Angel Michael.

My brother biko.
Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by NLEFCC(m): 8:47pm On Apr 20, 2017
lets get some reasons...
Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Nobody: 9:01pm On Apr 20, 2017
analice107:

Jehovah's Witnesses is not a Christian organization pls.
OK ma, I said this because they are always calm people with decency

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Nobody: 9:02pm On Apr 20, 2017
An2elect2:
You can't be a Christian if you deny the deity of Christ. Neither can you be one by being "a better person" They are not Christians. Just another apostate religious system.


but they have thought me before about Jesus, only thing is that they ask a lot of questions

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Rikze: 9:30pm On Apr 20, 2017
An2elect2:
You can't be a Christian if you deny the deity of Christ. Neither can you be one by being "a better person" They are not Christians. Just another apostate religious system.



Madam/ Sir, you know little or nothing about the Witnesses. They teach people everywhere about Jesus Christ, you are simply a HATER who believes only in here say. Ask them a million questions about Jesus they'll give you biblical answers.

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by potent5(m): 9:34pm On Apr 20, 2017
An2elect2:
You can't be a Christian if you deny the deity of Christ. Neither can you be one by being "a better person" They are not Christians. Just another apostate religious system.


Gbam.
Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Jaymaxxy(m): 9:40pm On Apr 20, 2017
If it is in my country, it is an islamization plan

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by potent5(m): 9:42pm On Apr 20, 2017
They may preach Christ but they are not Christians. They do not want to be seen in the same light as Christians and that's why they self-styled witnesses. I wonder what they are witnessing that other Christians are not.

You need to get close to them to really know how segregating they can get, how hypocritical they can be, etc
Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Mark4reel: 9:45pm On Apr 20, 2017
An2elect2:
You can't be a Christian if you deny the deity of Christ. Neither can you be one by being "a better person" They are not Christians. Just another apostate religious system.


And how do u know they not Christnx is it d bible that told u so, cos d bible i read says JW are d true Christians

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by dhope: 9:49pm On Apr 20, 2017
Rikze:


Madam/ Sir, you know little or nothing about the Witnesses. They teach people everywhere about Jesus Christ, you are simply a HATER who believes only in here say. Ask them a million questions about Jesus they'll give you biblical answers.
can u tell us what dey teach abt Jesus Christ in d bible? Pple dt will only hammer on d biblical points that support their doctrine and become angry when u refer them to other verses in bible that doesnt support their view. U cant claim to believe in bible partially and judge d word literally and claim to be a xtian. Check out their own bible version, no other xtian denominatn uses it and that is y u can see dt John 1:1 in those versions are different. I know what am saying because i once dated their lady b4 and am close to them

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Mark4reel: 9:51pm On Apr 20, 2017
potent5:
They may preach Christ but they are not Christians. They do not want to be seen in the same light as Christians and that's why they self-styled witnesses. I wonder what they are witnessing that other Christians are not.

You need to get close to them to really know how segregating they can get, how hypocritical they can be, etc
U are very wrong about us read ur very well and know who are really Jesus true followers today , or u tink all this muchroom churches u attend are leading u to God sorry

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Mark4reel: 10:00pm On Apr 20, 2017
dhope:

can u tell us what dey teach abt Jesus Christ in d bible? Pple dt will only hammer on d biblical points that support their doctrine and become angry when u refer them to other verses in bible that doesnt support their view. U cant claim to believe in bible partially and judge d word literally and claim to be a xtian. Check out their own bible version, no other xtian denominatn uses it and that is y u can see dt John 1:1 in those versions are different. I know what am saying because i once dated their lady b4 and am close to them
They teach that true Xtians are no part of d world John 17:16, Jehovah is the only true God Rev 4:11, Deut 6:4 ,That true Xtians preach d good news about Gods kingdom Matt 24:14 which no other churches do , they are d only ones who truely love oneanother as Jesus said John 13:35, They are the only ones who trully respect d Bible as Gods word and practice its teachings to d letter John17:17 I can goon and on

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Rikze: 10:04pm On Apr 20, 2017
dhope:

can u tell us what dey teach abt Jesus Christ in d bible? Pple dt will only hammer on d biblical points that support their doctrine and become angry when u refer them to other verses in bible that doesnt support their view. U cant claim to believe in bible partially and judge d word literally and claim to be a xtian. Check out their own bible version, no other xtian denominatn uses it and that is y u can see dt John 1:1 in those versions are different. I know what am saying because i once dated their lady b4 and am close to them

Being close to them doesn't mean you know what they teach in detail. At least I learnt the Ransom from them, Resurrection of Christ, some prophecies that fulfilled in Christ and so many others

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by potent5(m): 10:16pm On Apr 20, 2017
Mark4reel:
U are very wrong about us read ur very well and know who are really Jesus true followers today , or u tink all this muchroom churches u attend are leading u to God sorry
You see what I mean? You are here calling a fellow Christian gathering 'muchroom' and thereby confirming what I said.

FYI I've associated with you guys long enough to know what you stand for. You guys do all you can to control your members lives in totality.

You discourage your members from developing the earth but instead you go about fooling yourselves on how you'll inherit other people's buildings. Only a handful of your members have their own houses no matter how rich.

You control the kind of education a member can receive.

You cause the death of of innocent persons due to your doctrine against blood transfusion; I wonder where the Bible says you shouldn't donate blood to save lives. Even Jesus donated his own blood

. You deny people their rights to marry anyone they love; a witness can only marry a witness. As a result, there are many disgruntled spinsters all over the place, etc.

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Nobody: 10:34pm On Apr 20, 2017
I hope every country follows suit... The families and life's this cult like organization has shattered is overwhelming. Is quite funny how all the shunning atrocities by active jws go on in the world without notice..
Thank you Russia for being truthful.

Well deserved.
A religion with many honest decent people unfortunately with wired and Christian extremist view

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Gurusblend(m): 10:35pm On Apr 20, 2017
potent5:

You see what I mean? You are here calling a fellow Christian gathering 'muchroom' and thereby confirming what I said.

FYI I've associated with you guys long enough to know what you stand for. You guys do all you can to control your members lives in totality.

You discourage your members from developing the earth but instead you go about fooling yourselves on how you'll inherit other people's buildings. Only a handful of your members have their own houses no matter how rich.

You control the kind of education a member can receive.

You cause the death of of innocent persons due to your doctrine against blood transfusion; I wonder where the Bible says you shouldn't donate blood to save lives. Even Jesus donated his own blood

. You deny people their rights to marry anyone they love; a witness can only marry a witness. As a result, there are many disgruntled spinsters all over the place, etc.
So Jesus also donate his blood to who? Please I need an answer!!!!!

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Nobody: 10:41pm On Apr 20, 2017
Then-NPR correspondent Corey Flintoff went one to elaborate:

"Sivulsky says the accusation of extremism is based on a false understanding of the Jehovah's Witnesses' assertion that theirs is the only true religion. Prosecutors have alleged that means they are promoting 'religious discord.'
" 'And of course, it's totally wrong,' Sivulsky says, 'because every religion feels that they have the only true religion. This is the nature of any religion, otherwise, why are you following a false religion?'
"Some opponents of the Jehovah's Witnesses say their claims are more than just polite disagreement, though.
" 'In their literature, there are some very harsh statements and very insulting statements about other faiths,' says Alexander Dvorkin, a former Russian Orthodox priest who now teaches the history of religion and cult studies at St. Tikhon University in Moscow. 'Of course, every religion has the right to criticize other faiths, but that should be done in a non-insulting manner, especially if you are talking about the faith of the majority.' "



Did you notice that even thejw lawyer knows that jws are lying when they say they have " the truth"??
Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Hairyrapunzel: 10:49pm On Apr 20, 2017
If jws won the case they would have said they have jehovahs backing now they have lost this case it's biblical /jehovahs prophecy being fulled. In either case it's a win win situation for them. Also If it's jehovahs prophecy why use Satan's earthly courts to avert the prophecy? So much double speak by jws
Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Ubenedictus(m): 12:44am On Apr 21, 2017
analice107:

I think they deny Christ his divinity.


The Holy Spirit is just a life force, nothing more.

Jesus was an Angel before coming to earth, now that He is gone back to heaven, He went back to being and Angel Michael.

My brother biko.
I know all these, i know jw teachings, i grew up with their books...it was with their books i practiced how to read so i know them well.

But they believe in God, they profess Christ as they understand him, they are pacifist and do not fight any war except with words. It is harsh to call them extremist. This ban is against their fundamental human right i.e freedom of religion.

Be very careful what you support, today it is the witness, tomorrow it may be your church, next tomorrow maybe it will be my church and we will be banned for intolerance and bigotry against gay.
This can happen to anyone, be careful what u support.

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by potent5(m): 3:34am On Apr 21, 2017
Gurusblend:
So Jesus also donate his blood to who? Please I need an answer!!!!!
He shed his blood to save mankind.

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by dhope: 6:26am On Apr 21, 2017
potent5:

You see what I mean? You are here calling a fellow Christian gathering 'muchroom' and thereby confirming what I said.

FYI I've associated with you guys long enough to know what you stand for. You guys do all you can to control your members lives in totality.

You discourage your members from developing the earth but instead you go about fooling yourselves on how you'll inherit other people's buildings. Only a handful of your members have their own houses no matter how rich.

You control the kind of education a member can receive.

You cause the death of of innocent persons due to your doctrine against blood transfusion; I wonder where the Bible says you shouldn't donate blood to save lives. Even Jesus donated his own blood

. You deny people their rights to marry anyone they love; a witness can only marry a witness. As a result, there are many disgruntled spinsters all over the place, etc.
it seems u also know this religion very well. All Russia needed to do is just to help them to live separately by relocating them to Mars or Jupiter since they have that technology. Even God support that we respect current earthly govt even as it seems it is controlled by d wicked pple but dey will tell u dey wont vote and partake in census. i wonder where dey find that in bible

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Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by donnie(m): 6:44am On Apr 21, 2017
The JWs are not Christians but we as christians should be careful what laws we support. Especialy when it has to do with atheist governments like Russia.

That might just be the same platform that'll be used to shut down those bible believing, tongue talking, miracle working churches which are already being persecuted in Russia.
Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by true2god: 6:44am On Apr 21, 2017
I fully support the Russian government's decision on this. Any organization, in the name of religious belief, whose doctrine and practice go against the law of the land and whose practice could jeopardize public safety, through unwanted pacifism instead of patriotism, should be banned.

Any organization that discourages it members from serving in the armed or paramilitary forces but will expect others to risk their lives for their safety should be banned. Any organization that discouraged his people from active public service should be banned. Any organization that destroys family units in the name of religion should be banned.

Jehovah's witnesses fall into these categories and should be banned.
Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Ubenedictus(m): 9:41am On Apr 21, 2017
donnie:
The JWs are not Christians but we as christians should be careful what laws we support. Especialy when it has to do with atheist governments like Russia.

That might just be the same platform that'll be used to shut down those bible believing, tongue talking, miracle working churches which are already being persecuted in Russia.
russia isnt atheistic, they are orthodox... and yes we should be careful what we support.
Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Nobody: 3:48pm On Apr 21, 2017
Ubenedictus:
I know all these, i know jw teachings, i grew up with their books...it was with their books i practiced how to read so i know them well.

But they believe in God, they profess Christ as they understand him, they are pacifist and do not fight any war except with words. It is harsh to call them extremist. This ban is against their fundamental human right i.e freedom of religion.

Be very careful what you support, today it is the witness, tomorrow it may be your church, next tomorrow maybe it will be my church and we will be banned for intolerance and bigotry against gay.
This can happen to anyone, be careful what u support.


Brother,
While you and I have some differing belief systems in certain areas, you are absolutely correct in saying the following:

Be very careful what you support, today it is the witness, tomorrow it may be your church, next tomorrow maybe it will be my church and we will be banned for intolerance and bigotry against gay.
This can happen to anyone, be careful what u support


And what this ruling has done is set a precedent for what's about to happen with other religious groups (trickle down theory) unfortunately (regardless of the particular subject).
This is not a good move...it tramples on a group's right to have Religious Liberty. Regardless of what they or any group believes, under the law (well at least in the U.S.), they have a right to believe it. Things will change soon though.
Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by ichuka(m): 5:23pm On Apr 21, 2017
Christianity IS Christ and the Life of a Christain is also Christ!!
Without Christ a Christain has no LIFE!!
Because Christ is our Life,He's our Source,our Reason and our God.
Any other permutation is of the World and has no place/standing before Him.
Gal2:20
Re: Russia Supreme Court Shuts Down Jehovah Witness In Russia by Ubenedictus(m): 7:31pm On Apr 21, 2017
MZLady39:



Brother,
While you and I have some differing belief systems in certain areas, you are absolutely correct in saying the following:

Be very careful what you support, today it is the witness, tomorrow it may be your church, next tomorrow maybe it will be my church and we will be banned for intolerance and bigotry against gay.
This can happen to anyone, be careful what u support


And what this ruling has done is set a precedent for what's about to happen with other religious groups (trickle down theory) unfortunately (regardless of the particular subject).
This is not a good move...it tramples on a group's right to have Religious Liberty. Regardless of what they or any group believes, under the law (well at least in the U.S.), they have a right to believe it. Things will change soon though.
Thank God u agree. It is a dangerous precedent and I am suprised some are happy about it.

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