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Most pastors knows that there are more than 50,000 errors in the bible.
If it was divinely inspired,then why would it have so many really obvious contradictions?
Theological doctrines:
1. God is satisfied with his works
Gen 1:31
dwells in chosen temples
2 Chron 7:12,16
God dwells not in temples
Acts 7:48
3. God dwells in light
Tim 6:16
God dwells in darkness
1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2
4. God is seen and heard
Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
Ex 24:9-11
God is invisible and cannot be heard
John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16
5. God is tired and rests
Ex 31:17
God is never tired and never rests
Is 40:28
6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things
Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21
God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all
things
Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8
7. God knows the hearts of men
Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries men to find out what is in their heart
Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12
8. God is all powerful
Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26
God is not all powerful
Judg 1:19
9. God is unchangeable
James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19
God is changeable
Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/
Ex 33:1,3,17,14
10. God is just and impartial
Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25
God is unjust and partial
Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12
11. God is the author of evil
Lam 3:38/ Jer 18:11/ Is 45:7/ Amos 3:6/ Ezek 20:25
God is not the author of evil
1 Cor 14:33/ Deut 32:4/ James 1:13
12. God gives freely to those who ask
James 1:5/ Luke 11:10
God withholds his blessings and prevents men from receiving
them
John 12:40/ Josh 11:20/ Is 63:17
etc
Speculative Doctrines
108. Christ is equal with God
John 10:30/ Phil 2:5
Christ is not equal with God
John 14:28/ Matt 24:36
109. Jesus was all-powerful
Matt 28:18/ John 3:35
Jesus was not all-powerful
Mark 6:5
110. The law was superseded by the Christian dispensation
Luke 16:16/ Eph 2:15/ Rom 7:6
The law was not superseded by the Christian dispensation
Matt 5:17-19
111. Christ's mission was peace
Luke 2:13,14
Christ's mission was not peace
Matt 10:34
112. Christ received not testimony from man
John 5:33,34
Christ did receive testimony from man
John 15:27
etc
Google 50000 Errors in Bible by Sheikh Ahmed Deedat and see for yourselves and why some books where added and some omitted like the gospel of barnabas

baakus:
Most pastors knows that there are more than 50,000 errors in the bible.
If it was divinely inspired,then why would it have so many really obvious contradictions?
Theological doctrines:
1. God is satisfied with his works
Gen 1:31
dwells in chosen temples
2 Chron 7:12,16
God dwells not in temples
Acts 7:48
3. God dwells in light
Tim 6:16
God dwells in darkness
1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2
4. God is seen and heard
Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
Ex 24:9-11
God is invisible and cannot be heard
John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16
5. God is tired and rests
Ex 31:17
God is never tired and never rests
Is 40:28
6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things
Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21
God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all
things
Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8
7. God knows the hearts of men
Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries men to find out what is in their heart
Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12
8. God is all powerful
Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26
God is not all powerful
Judg 1:19
9. God is unchangeable
James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19
God is changeable
Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/
Ex 33:1,3,17,14
10. God is just and impartial
Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25
God is unjust and partial
Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12
11. God is the author of evil
Lam 3:38/ Jer 18:11/ Is 45:7/ Amos 3:6/ Ezek 20:25
God is not the author of evil
1 Cor 14:33/ Deut 32:4/ James 1:13
12. God gives freely to those who ask
James 1:5/ Luke 11:10
God withholds his blessings and prevents men from receiving
them
John 12:40/ Josh 11:20/ Is 63:17
etc
Speculative Doctrines
108. Christ is equal with God
John 10:30/ Phil 2:5
Christ is not equal with God
John 14:28/ Matt 24:36
109. Jesus was all-powerful
Matt 28:18/ John 3:35
Jesus was not all-powerful
Mark 6:5
110. The law was superseded by the Christian dispensation
Luke 16:16/ Eph 2:15/ Rom 7:6
The law was not superseded by the Christian dispensation
Matt 5:17-19
111. Christ's mission was peace
Luke 2:13,14
Christ's mission was not peace
Matt 10:34
112. Christ received not testimony from man
John 5:33,34
Christ did receive testimony from man
John 15:27
etc
Google 50000 Errors in Bible by Sheikh Ahmed Deedat and see for yourselves and why some books where added and some omitted like the gospel of barnabas

There is no difference between the bible and the quran. Hardly any difference,so the so calles sheikh should shut his trap already.

I just kept quiet when i saw the name sheihk, i wish he would come out and explain the Hadith to us

You read but U don't have understanding ask holy spirit to open your understanding and re-read the scripture

Kdon2:
There is no difference between the bible and the quran. Hardly any difference,so the so calles sheikh should shut his trap already.

Oga they are not the same

baakus:
Oga they are not the same

The diference please. They are basically 70% about isrealites. So whats the diference?

baakus:
Most pastors knows that there are more than 50,000 errors in the bible.

Just curious: why would you spend so much time & energy looking for "errors"?

Kdon2:
The diference please. They are basically 70% about isrealites. So whats the diference?

da differences r bible is full of errors n contradictions while quran is free from all those but if u doubt it you can go ahead and point out just 1 error or 1contradiction from d quran

Seun Osewa & His Muslim biased mod will be happy seeing this thread

aminusanti:
da difference r bible is full of errors n contradictions while quran is free from all those but if u doubt it you can go ahead and point out just 1 error or 1contradiction from d quran

The story in the quran is 95% the story of jewish people written by another arabs abeg.

Kdon2:
The story in the quran is 95% the story of jewish people written by another arabs abeg.

Very wrong .. who is feeding u with all dis?

aminusanti:
da differences r bible is full of errors n contradictions while quran is free from all those but if u doubt it you can go ahead and point out just 1 error or 1contradiction from d quran

The Koran called Mary the sister of Aaron. The Koran said one of Joseph's companions in the prison was crucified. Crucifixion was not in existence until thousands of years later. The Koran says the sun sets in pool of murky water. The Koran says shooting starts are used to shoot demons spying on God. Can I go on?

aminusanti:
Very wrong .. who is feeding u with all dis?

so all the prophet yakub(job),prophet dauda(king David), prophet Suleiman(king Solomon)prophet Yusuf(Joseph) etc. all Jewish leaders why are they occupying most of the Quran? how many Arab prophet do you have in the quran.? please enlighten me.

[quote author=baakus post=55770098]Most pastors knows that there are more than 50,000 errors in the bible.
If it was divinely inspired,then why would it have so many really obvious contradictions?
Theological doctrines:
1. God is satisfied with his works
Gen 1:31
dwells in chosen temples
2 Chron 7:12,16
God dwells not in temples
Acts 7:48
3. God dwells in light
Tim 6:16
God dwells in darkness
1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2
4. God is seen and heard
Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
Ex 24:9-11
God is invisible and cannot be heard
John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16
5. God is tired and rests
Ex 31:17
God is never tired and never rests
Is 40:28

THE POSTER OF THIS BULL SHIT IS IN NO BIT INTELLIGENT. IT SHOWS YOU DIDNT DO ANY CRITICAL FINDINGS EXCEPT TO COPY AND PASTE IN ORDER TO STIR CONTROVERSIES. HOW CAN YOUR VAIN THOUGHT EVEN CAPTURE YAHWEHS OMNI PRESENCE BESIDES THERE RE TEMPLE MADE OF HANDS AND WE CHRISTAINS EVEN RE GODS TEMPLE. ION EVEN AVE TIME 4 DIS BULLSHIT

ilynem:
The Koran called Mary the sister of Aaron. The Koran said one of Joseph's companions in the prison was crucified. Crucifixion was not in existence until thousands of years later. The Koran says the sun sets in pool of murky water. The Koran says shooting starts are used to shoot demons spying on God. Can I go on?

are u real dis time around or you r just here to kill time arguing blindly as usual?? I can proceed to address all ur queries without any issue but once u startd ur cherry picking old trick I wont waste a sec on you again.. agreed?

aminusanti:
are u real dis time around or you r just here to kill time arguing blindly as usual?? I can proceed to address all ur queries without any issue but once u startd ur cherry picking old trick I wont waste a sec on you again.. agreed?

Stop speaking grammar and address the numerous historical and scientific errors in your Koran. Should I include the thousands of errors in your hadith as well?

LIES IN THE HADITH:

Adam was a 90 foot giant.
The hadith say humans were created in the physical image of Allah. Thus they began as tall as 90ft giants (60 cubits is the equivalent of 90 feet), and have been decreasing in height ever since. The oldest human remains found in Ethiopia (Lucy and Ardi) were actually shorter in height than us, thus Archaeological science has disproved this belief.

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall. When He created him, He said to him, "Go and greet that group of angels, and listen to their reply, for it will be your greeting (salutation) and the greeting (salutations of your offspring." So, Adam said (to the angels), As-Salamu Alaikum (i.e. Peace be upon you). The angels said, "As-salamu Alaika wa Rahmatu-l-lahi" (i.e. Peace and Allah's Mercy be upon you). Thus the angels added to Adam's salutation the expression, 'Wa Rahmatu-l-lahi,' Any person who will enter Paradise will resemble Adam (in appearance and figure). People have been decreasing in stature since Adam's creation.
Sahih Bukhari 4:55:543 ;
Sahih Muslim 40:6809 and Sahih Muslim 32:6325

LIES IN THE HADITH

Geocentrism: The sun goes under Allah's chair.

Narrated Abu Dhar: The Prophet asked me at sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know better." He said, "It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west.

Sahih Bukhari 4:54:421

LIES IN THE HADITH

The inanimate sun can prostrate like a human


It is narrated on the authority of Abu Dharr that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) one day said: Do you know where the sun goes? They replied: Allah and His Apostle know best. He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Verily it the Sun glides till it reaches its resting place under the Throne. Then it falls prostrate and remains there until it is asked: Rise up and go to the place whence you came, and it goes back and continues emerging out from its rising place and then glides till it reaches its place of rest under the Throne and falls prostrate and remains in that state until it is asked: Rise up and return to the place whence you came, and it returns and emerges out from it rising place and the it glides (in such a normal way) that the people do not discern anything ( unusual in it) till it reaches its resting place under the Throne. Then it would be said to it: Rise up and emerge out from the place of your setting, and it will rise from the place of its setting. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said. Do you know when it would happen? It would happen at the time when faith will not benefit one who has not previously believed or has derived no good from the faith.

Sahih Muslim 1:297

LIES IN THE KORAN

1. In Sura 41:9-12 Allah claims to have made our planet Earth first and after that the sun and other stars. This is clearly untrue as we know the Earth is about 4.5 billion years old and the Universe about 13.7 billion;

2. Sura 78:6-7 declares that Allah put mountains on Earth to stabilize it and stop it from shaking, but mountains are the result of instability as tectonic plates collide or volcanoes erupt;

3. In Sura 28:9 we are told that Pharaoh’s wife discovered Moses in the river yet clearly from history it was the daughter of Pharaoh who took Moses from the river. allahh is not a good historian here.

aminusanti:
are u real dis time around or you r just here to kill time arguing blindly as usual?? I can proceed to address all ur queries without any issue but once u startd ur cherry picking old trick I wont waste a sec on you again.. agreed?

Come on. We are friends aren't we? Just two people trying to learn. We don't have to hostile. Like I said, I always want to learn. So please, address these issues for me thank you.

WHEN ISLAM FULLY DEVELOPED, MOHAMMED SAID ISLAM STARTED FROM THE CREATION OF MAN, AND SO ADAM WAS D FIRST MUSLIM. BEFORE THEN, HOWEVER, THE QURAN SAYS IN SURA 6:14,163 THAT MOHAMMED WAS THE FIRST TO SURRENDER TO ALLAH AND BECOME A MUSLIM. YET AGAIN IN SURA 7:143, MOSES IS SAID TO BE THE FIRST MUSLIM.

MTCHEW, TOO MANY OF SUCH CONTRADICTORY THINGS IN THE QURAN, I THINK ALLAH AND MUHAMMED(GOD PUNISH HIM) ARE STUPID AND DULL BEINGS FOR THINKING THEY COULD SANDWICH EVERY ONE IN THIS CONTEMPORARY TIME TO BELIEVE THOSE BULL SHIT.

true2god:
Stop speaking grammar and address the numerous historical and scientific errors in your Koran. Should I include the thousands of errors in your hadith as well?

Get to know the difference.. let me help u out of ur ignorance..

* Quran = Word of God Almighty through the prophet Mohammad (S.A.W) (Error free)
* Hadith (Report) = Each hadith consists of two parts, the isnad (Arabic: 'support'), or the chain of transmitters through which a scholar traced the matn, or text, of a hadith back to the Prophet. Individual hadith are classified by Muslim clerics and jurists as sahih ("authentic", hasan ("good" or da'if ("weak".

Yes you can find errors in the weak hadith dat arent corresponding with the Quran which is a straight forward thing unlike your man made book (bible)that consist of all in one, men, prophet, historians, archeologists, etc and you are all saying they were inspired by God and thats why you can get endless errors and contradictions in it.
If you really want to know the words of jesus (word of God) go and read red letter bible.

aminusanti:
Get to know the difference.. let me help u out of ur ignorance..

* Quran = Word of God Almighty through the prophet Mohammad (S.A.W) (Error free)
* Hadith (Report) = Each hadith consists of two parts, the isnad (Arabic: 'support'), or the chain of transmitters through which a scholar traced the matn, or text, of a hadith back to the Prophet. Individual hadith are classified by Muslim clerics and jurists as sahih ("authentic", hasan ("good" or da'if ("weak".

Yes you can find errors in the weak hadith dat arent corresponding with the Quran which is a straight forward thing unlike your man made book (bible)that consist of all in one, men, prophet, historians, archeologists, etc and you are all saying they were inspired and why you can get endless errors and contradictions in it.
If you really want to know the words of jesus (word of God) go and read red letter bible.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/222641/false-dichotomy-moderate-muslims-vs-radicals-dr-majid-rafizadeh

What makes you think your Allah is true and Yahweh is false?

akintom:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/222641/false-dichotomy-moderate-muslims-vs-radicals-dr-majid-rafizadeh

What makes you think your Allah true and Yahweh is false?

are u asking to know or u are just mocking around??

I have a simple question for you.

God created everything perfectly and goodly, everyone believe that. So why still do we have slowpoke, cripples, all physically challenged from birth.

Your answer is what i have for you

Kdon2:
so all the prophet yakub(job),prophet dauda(king David), prophet Suleiman(king Solomon)prophet Yusuf(Joseph) etc. all Jewish leaders why are they occupying most of the Quran? how many Arab prophet do you have in the quran.? please enlighten me.

According to you "the quran is 95% the story of jewish "
Tell us what covers the remaining 5% then if you are smart enough to know 95% of the Quran is all about jewish..

aminusanti:
According to you "the quran is 95% the story of jewish "
Tell us what covers the remaining 5% then if you are smart enough to know 95% of the Quran is all about jewish..

Poo.

aminusanti:
According to you "the quran is 95% the story of jewish "
Tell us what covers the remaining 5% then if you are smart enough to know 95% of the Quran is all about jewish..

Poo is the remaining.

Kdon2:
Poo is the remaining.

ok. NEXT

jaymejate:
I have a simple question for you.

God created everything perfectly and goodly, everyone believe that. So why still do we have slowpoke, cripples, all physically challenged from birth.

Your answer is what i have for you

All God created is perfect.

Before I decided to quote you I said to myself how do I explain to this person seeing you dont believe in Gods existence.
It takes you to believe God exists for you to believe Satan does. So What Im going to say may not make sense to you.

And I take it to be your Cup of Nescafe


Now back to your question

"God created everything perfectly and goodly, everyone believe that. So why still do we have slowpoke, cripples, all physically challenged from birth"

ANSWER

After the Creation of Adam and Eve, To create man God did not have to go through the process used to create the First man and Woman.

He had created men and women in the body of the man in form of Spermatozoa .

That is the beginning of those physically challenged you mention and they were perfect.

Or Have you heard of cripple, blind, foolish, deaf Sperm cells before?

They were perfect untill they became fetuses and it is at that stage that humans are deformed due to carelessness of the pregnant woman or some form of physical accidents that happened while in the womb.

When God created the sperm it was perfect it is only there in the womb to grow and that is where damages are done to change the fate of the unborn Child.
And what has brought that to humans SATAN

I know that is another point for argument. Satan

Thats left for another day.

Your aguements are always decorated with flaws of different kinds and only shows the level of reasoning of all Atheists

You guys in your "smartness" display gross foolishness.

Sorry if it sounds abusive. So sorry