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koning:
again blinded by tribal sentiments, these cowards refuse to decode 'Buhari's' letter.

The president is NOT ON VACATION. Secondly, he NEVER said that he is "unable to discharge the functions of his office". This makes nonsense of this section 145 you guys keep quoting.
He travelled out for a medical check up. Do I need to explain more. His letter left a lot of loopholes.

anigbajumo:
I tire oo,What is the noise all about, the opening paragraph said "in compliance with section 145 (1) of 1999 constitution......". Let's step back and see what does the section say before we start yelling and shouting. The section stated that once the senate receives a letter from the president informing them of his vacation or leave, the Vice President will henceforth serve as the acting President, until the president returns.

My question, is buhari not referred to the section that empowers osinbanjo as acting president??

These fools need to see the copy of the letter b4 yearning gibberish here and there....

AntiWailer:
That is a Medical vacation Olodo.

When u are at work and you write your boss that you are travelling to attend to your health without stating when you will be back.

What is that ?

Sorry you sell spare part and you might not understand these things.

Ignoramus.

MaziOmenuko:
Just like I said in the other thread about this controversy...


You guys don't understand the point Mao Ohuabunwa was trying to make and I am with him on this. The letter is ambiguous and open to various interpretation.

Yes, we all know what the constitution says and in view of that, Osinbajo is the acting president. But look at it from this perspective: He may give an order or sign a law or budget and someone somewhere will go to court challenging him on the signed law insisting that he was not the acting president and lacked powers to sign such all in a bid to buy time. Please note that the person challenging this knows the outcome already but would want to buy time. He will seek interpretation from the lower courts, then appeal the judgement, and later head to the supreme courts with various court injunctions inbetween and before you say jack, 2 years has elapsed and the culprit is still free because while he is at the courts, all actions will be pending awaiting the court verdict.

This is the lacuna Mao is trying to bring to light. After Osinbajo signs the budget, someone somewhere will spend above the budget next year or next 2 years and when EFCC wades in, he will go to court to buy time, hinging his case on this same thing.

Do not forget that Ngozi Okonnjo Iweala was coordinating Minister under GEJ and we know theirs no powers attached to such portfolio.

The letter could have been innocently scripted, otherwise, it could have been crafted by some mischievous powers surrounding the presidency. Mao is not ignorant of what section 145 says so he knows exactly what he is saying; we call him "Ancient Mao" in Abia North and we have a saying that what an elder sees while sitting down, the youths will not see even if they climb the iroko.

ceeethru:
Number two citizen is now a school monitor or coordinator. We warned you guys but called us wailers. Very soon they address him as errand boy Osinbajo. Cabals really at work.

koning:
"Medical Vacation" hahahahaha... what the hell is that?. I laugh at your idiocy. Medical vacation does not exist in our constitution. The president has already had his annual leave. This recent trip is for a medical check up. To make matters worse, the cabal may even call it 'Routine' medical check up.
Don't forget he alluded to that when he returned from his extended VACATION. Shut your mouth and learn.

seunmsg:
The choice of words used by those that crafted the letter in the second paragraph is irrelevant. Osinbajo immediately became the acting president immediately the senate president read the first paragraph and until another letter is sent to the senate that Buhari is ready to resume, the powers of the office of the president remain vested in Yemi Osinbajo.

seunmsg:
I don't understand your argument. So, if someone goes to court today against the acting president, will the legal action stop Osinbajo from acting?

We should stop over flogging a non issue. Buhari had complied with section 145 of the constitution and that is what really matters. All other grammar after the first paragraph of the letter are irrelevant turanshi.

AntiWailer:
Section 145 :
‘Whenever the President is proceeding on vacation or is otherwise unable to discharge the functions of his office, he shall transmit a written declaration to the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives to that effect, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, the Vice President SHALL perform the functions of the President as Acting President.’


Buhari cited that section of the constitution that mandate him to transmit the letter

The section does not even empower him to mention anybody as acting President if not he could have nominated his wife or mentioned any other person.

As soon as that letter was read on the floor, the VP becomes the acting President AUTOMATICALLY until another letter comes indicating that the President is back.

The reason Jonathan had issues was because such letter does not exist and it led to a constituional crisis hence DOCTRINE of NECESSITY was invoked to be able to recognise the then VP as Acting President.


STOP looking for trouble where none exist.

When you mix hatred, mediocrity, ignorance and sentiments together, we will not know how to help you.

Pending the time we know what your problem is, we will assume it is just a combination of ignorance and mediocrity.

Extremely f00lish set of people.

" Never underestimate the power of f00lish people in large numbers"

Anonymous.

iforten:
As shared on Reno Omokris page



https://mobile.twitter.com/renoomokri/status/862087390541733888

seunmsg:
Deranged wailers and ipobs messing up the cyberspace with their nonsense.

MaziOmenuko:
Just like I said in the other thread about this controversy...


You guys don't understand the point Mao Ohuabunwa was trying to make and I am with him on this. The letter is ambiguous and open to various interpretation.

Yes, we all know what the constitution says and in view of that, Osinbajo is the acting president. But look at it from this perspective: He may give an order or sign a law or budget and someone somewhere will go to court challenging him on the signed law insisting that he was not the acting president and lacked powers to sign such all in a bid to buy time. Please note that the person challenging this knows the outcome already but would want to buy time. He will seek interpretation from the lower courts, then appeal the judgement, and later head to the supreme courts with various court injunctions inbetween and before you say jack, 2 years has elapsed and the culprit is still free because while he is at the courts, all actions will be pending awaiting the court verdict.

This is the lacuna Mao is trying to bring to light. After Osinbajo signs the budget, someone somewhere will spend above the budget next year or next 2 years and when EFCC wades in, he will go to court to buy time, hinging his case on this same thing.

Do not forget that Ngozi Okonnjo Iweala was coordinating Minister under GEJ and we know theirs no powers attached to such portfolio.

The letter could have been innocently scripted, otherwise, it could have been crafted by some mischievous powers surrounding the presidency. Mao is not ignorant of what section 145 says so he knows exactly what he is saying; we call him "Ancient Mao" in Abia North and we have a saying that what an elder sees while sitting down, the youths will not see even if they climb the iroko.

Victornezzar:
Is Reno Omokri an igbo man

topgear:
First and foremost.

The constitution of our great country does not give room for coordinating president.

When writing the letter to the Senate. PMB quoted section 145 of the constitution which says

"145.- Acting president during temporary absence of president

(1) Whenever the President transmits to the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives a written declaration that he is proceeding on vacation or that he is otherwise unable to discharge the functions of his office, untill he transmits to them in written declaration to the contrary, such functions shall be discharged by Vice-President as Acting President. "

Look at the heading of the section 145

" Acting president during temporary absence of president"

Its quite clear that VP osinbajo is Acting President..

And please recall that the presidency has said that he will sign the budget and swear in the two new ministers.
Those are functions of the president either acting or substantive.

Its funny how nigerians can make a fuzz about nothing..

Please lets put an end to this controversy

Partnerbiz:
Well, he is improving. After all he was a mere commissioner before.

MaziOmenuko:
Just like I said in the other thread about this controversy...


You guys don't understand the point Mao Ohuabunwa was trying to make and I am with him on this. The letter is ambiguous and open to various interpretation.

Yes, we all know what the constitution says and in view of that, Osinbajo is the acting president. But look at it from this perspective: He may give an order or sign a law or budget and someone somewhere will go to court challenging him on the signed law insisting that he was not the acting president and lacked powers to sign such all in a bid to buy time. Please note that the person challenging this knows the outcome already but would want to buy time. He will seek interpretation from the lower courts, then appeal the judgement, and later head to the supreme courts with various court injunctions inbetween and before you say jack, 2 years has elapsed and the culprit is still free because while he is at the courts, all actions will be pending awaiting the court verdict.

This is the lacuna Mao is trying to bring to light. After Osinbajo signs the budget, someone somewhere will spend above the budget next year or next 2 years and when EFCC wades in, he will go to court to buy time, hinging his case on this same thing.

Do not forget that Ngozi Okonnjo Iweala was coordinating Minister under GEJ and we know theirs no powers attached to such portfolio.

The letter could have been innocently scripted, otherwise, it could have been crafted by some mischievous powers surrounding the presidency. Mao is not ignorant of what section 145 says so he knows exactly what he is saying; we call him "Ancient Mao" in Abia North and we have a saying that what an elder sees while sitting down, the youths will not see even if they climb the iroko.

MaziOmenuko:
You are the one that failed to read or digest my point; maybe because you have comprehension issues.
Read my 2nd paragraph again...carefully this time, especially where I said that we all know what the constitution says. You have zero idea what some mischievous people can make out of that letter which is open to different interpretations.

Its difficult trying to make a point these days; everyone is clouded in the veil of either religion of tribalism.

MaziOmenuko:
Just like I said in the other thread about this controversy...


You guys don't understand the point Mao Ohuabunwa was trying to make and I am with him on this. The letter is ambiguous and open to various interpretation.

Yes, we all know what the constitution says and in view of that, Osinbajo is the acting president. But look at it from this perspective: He may give an order or sign a law or budget and someone somewhere will go to court challenging him on the signed law insisting that he was not the acting president and lacked powers to sign such all in a bid to buy time. Please note that the person challenging this knows the outcome already but would want to buy time. He will seek interpretation from the lower courts, then appeal the judgement, and later head to the supreme courts with various court injunctions inbetween and before you say jack, 2 years has elapsed and the culprit is still free because while he is at the courts, all actions will be pending awaiting the court verdict.

This is the lacuna Mao is trying to bring to light. After Osinbajo signs the budget, someone somewhere will spend above the budget next year or next 2 years and when EFCC wades in, he will go to court to buy time, hinging his case on this same thing.

Do not forget that Ngozi Okonnjo Iweala was coordinating Minister under GEJ and we know theirs no powers attached to such portfolio.

The letter could have been innocently scripted, otherwise, it could have been crafted by some mischievous powers surrounding the presidency. Mao is not ignorant of what section 145 says so he knows exactly what he is saying; we call him "Ancient Mao" in Abia North and we have a saying that what an elder sees while sitting down, the youths will not see even if they climb the iroko.

nerodenero:
The stone which the builders rejected will become the cornerstone

CuddleMe:
Same with is people

streamsofjoy:
You are the one yanning gibberish Becos u knw nothing about interpretation of an instrument neither do you know the cannon of interpretation that states " the express mention of a thing excludes the other". Like the writer whom u replied said, whoever goes to court on this issue knows the possible outcome. The issue is not that naming the VP a coordinator voids wat second 145 says, the issue is giving room for any person to construe otherwise.

MaziOmenuko:
Just like I said in the other thread about this controversy...


You guys don't understand the point Mao Ohuabunwa was trying to make and I am with him on this. The letter is ambiguous and open to various interpretation.

Yes, we all know what the constitution says and in view of that, Osinbajo is the acting president. But look at it from this perspective: He may give an order or sign a law or budget and someone somewhere will go to court challenging him on the signed law insisting that he was not the acting president and lacked powers to sign such all in a bid to buy time. Please note that the person challenging this knows the outcome already but would want to buy time. He will seek interpretation from the lower courts, then appeal the judgement, and later head to the supreme courts with various court injunctions inbetween and before you say jack, 2 years has elapsed and the culprit is still free because while he is at the courts, all actions will be pending awaiting the court verdict.

This is the lacuna Mao is trying to bring to light. After Osinbajo signs the budget, someone somewhere will spend above the budget next year or next 2 years and when EFCC wades in, he will go to court to buy time, hinging his case on this same thing.

Do not forget that Ngozi Okonnjo Iweala was coordinating Minister under GEJ and we know theirs no powers attached to such portfolio.

The letter could have been innocently scripted, otherwise, it could have been crafted by some mischievous powers surrounding the presidency. Mao is not ignorant of what section 145 says so he knows exactly what he is saying; we call him "Ancient Mao" in Abia North and we have a saying that what an elder sees while sitting down, the youths will not see even if they climb the iroko.

EasyWork001:
Too much logic. This is exactly what I thought, but simply refused to spell out in ABC's for morons to understand. Its just not worth the energy. Thanks for spelling it out clearly.

I fully expect exactly what you stated to occur ESPECIALLY with regards to the 2017 budget. Its important to note that the way 'corrupt' individuals (Oronsaye, the latest) are getting off the EFCC hook on technicalities originates from this common source as well. Can I call it administrative incompetence? Lets keep watching, but I daresay a few people in the National Assembly are salivating over this letter. I'll leave it at that.

MaziOmenuko:
Just like I said in the other thread about this controversy...


You guys don't understand the point Mao Ohuabunwa was trying to make and I am with him on this. The letter is ambiguous and open to various interpretation.

Yes, we all know what the constitution says and in view of that, Osinbajo is the acting president. But look at it from this perspective: He may give an order or sign a law or budget and someone somewhere will go to court challenging him on the signed law insisting that he was not the acting president and lacked powers to sign such all in a bid to buy time. Please note that the person challenging this knows the outcome already but would want to buy time. He will seek interpretation from the lower courts, then appeal the judgement, and later head to the supreme courts with various court injunctions inbetween and before you say jack, 2 years has elapsed and the culprit is still free because while he is at the courts, all actions will be pending awaiting the court verdict.

This is the lacuna Mao is trying to bring to light. After Osinbajo signs the budget, someone somewhere will spend above the budget next year or next 2 years and when EFCC wades in, he will go to court to buy time, hinging his case on this same thing.

Do not forget that Ngozi Okonnjo Iweala was coordinating Minister under GEJ and we know theirs no powers attached to such portfolio.

The letter could have been innocently scripted, otherwise, it could have been crafted by some mischievous powers surrounding the presidency. Mao is not ignorant of what section 145 says so he knows exactly what he is saying; we call him "Ancient Mao" in Abia North and we have a saying that what an elder sees while sitting down, the youths will not see even if they climb the iroko.

Atmmachine:

Osubande is a mere commissioner

These Afonjas wants every opportunity to rule Nigerian

I pray that the president returns safe and healthy and rule Nigeria for 80 more years

Afonjas have been relegated

Correction

magoo10:
get it,that letter was deliberately drafted as we all know buhari is not himself and in the state of mind to draft such letter.
A coordinator is someone chosen amongst other equals to oversee activities of the generality ,a good example is the coordinating minister under GEJ .
[s]As it stands osibanjo is equal to other federal executive members and that is how they see him,you don't even have to go to court for interpretation as other members of the executives will only see him as the coordinator of govt than acting president.[/s]
You people should be happy that there are bold people such as Mao ohabunwa who can point out such craftiness and illegality even in the face of tyranny.