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Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by Andrewkinggg: 3:27pm On May 14, 2017
Lilimax:
Bros, I was among the people that boasted on the highlighted for years; but when I encountered God in his word personally, I began to sing another song smiley

Bros, what word encountering did you have with God? Worshipping GOD is a thing of the heart and purpose, your heart and purpose took you away from the Catholic Church.

I didn't have my early years in the Catholic Church, I was in a Protestant church before my family went back fully into the Catholic Church by my father and ever since then I've become a member ever since. Catholic Church has imbided a lot of virtues in my life right now.

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Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by Eddygourdo(m): 3:27pm On May 14, 2017
Amberon:
Lmao... Catholism has faultless foundations? What a way to deny proven facts. Mr man, you cannot run away from history nor try to distort it. Your catholic church committed worse crimes than Mohammed did. You are simply making a mockery of yourself by disputing them. Anyone with half a brain knows that fact.

How do you think the Anglican church came into being? have you asked questions or you are just a blind sheep waiting for another apparition from God knows who.

You can't even construct proper sentences and you dare speak of education. Take several seats.
lol, I told you all, he is a protestant. we know them. you keep protesting and the church keeps growing. the church you follow Wat are it's roots, even the Christianity you follow what do you know about it's roots, other than growing up and having it thrusted into your consciousness. don't come here in your uneducated state to talk about mundane history. we all know it, yet we are screaming "proudly catholic" . I know it hurts your protestant beliefs. why don't you seek a transformer and kindly hug it
Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by cyrilamx(m): 3:30pm On May 14, 2017
Stop beating about the bush, counter my scriptural quotes of Matt. 9:1-8 and Jn 20:23, perhaps u more learned than the apostles and fathers of the Church. Well it not strange you sticking to ur personal interpretation which is the hallmark of protestantism/pentecoslism or our local parlance usage...man-made or sole proprietorship church. I even wonder if u even delve into church history to comprehend more historical truths of early Christian deeds. My dear is only a proud sinner that says he only confesses to God. If Christ empowered his apostles to forgive sins which can only happen through confession, who are u to go against Christ's injunctions. Maybe u tell me if the counselling going on in ur church ain't a type of confession. I can see ur pride..."mere flesh" no different from how the pharisees attacked Jesus in Matt. 9:1-8. Without theology there couldn't have been the Bible...because it was theologians-priests and Bishops alike that congregated at the councils of Hippo (393 A.D) and Carthage (397 A.D.) under the chairmanship of the Holy and great African bishop, St. Augustine to determine which of the numerous early christian writings will make the canons of the Bible. Afterwards, they submitted their findings to Pope Damasus for approval. So before u run ur ignorant brain against theology, think again.
Iamzik:


Mr theologian Weldone sir. Im not sure how much of theology is required for salvation though. But the Bible is clear.

Every man has access to God to receive forgiveness directly through Jesus. If you think you are not worthy of such direct access then no one will force you. Go through your priest and Pope.

As for me the Bible says I belong to a Royal priesthood and Christ is the High Priest.

A sinful man in the flesh that cannot forgive himself who is also a sinner is forgiving someone else. Now who is playing nairabet with his salvation between me and you.

Both you and your reverend father are sinners who need to ask God for forgiveness for sins known and unknown. Keep confessing to your reverend father.

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Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by KENFERDYOORI(m): 3:31pm On May 14, 2017
free2ryhme:
Thou shall not bow before any graven image undecided
Seek for enlightenment!
Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by UjSizzle(f): 3:32pm On May 14, 2017
iaamxavier:


Ode be reading back of bible



The first commandment of God is: I am the Lord thy God; thou shalt
not have strange gods before Me.
Thou shalt not have strange Gods before me. Thou shalt not make to
thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of anything that is in heaven
above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the
waters under the earth. (Exodus 20:3-4)

Where did u see bow? And have u seen any catholic bow to another God be wallowing in ignorance
Not intending to be a part of this argument or whatever, but did you deliberately leave out the 5th verse?

"You shall not bow down to them or serve them..."


The bible is the complete truth. You can't cut it up to prove a point.


**Going away now.

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Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by faoz: 3:33pm On May 14, 2017
thesuave10:
[/b] THIS FATIMA STORY IS FAKE. THOSE CHILDREN ARE DELUSIONAL AND ARE IN HELL. THIS POPE FRANCIS DOESN'T HAVE SENSE. [b]


Broz can't u see that something is wrong with u mentally They are been canonized after 100yrs(from the year they were dead), and u here ranting wit that sceptic tank u called mouth saying the story is fake. So u think say na lastnite dey die abi Odee yeye boy no go find solution to ur mental problem.
Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by KENFERDYOORI(m): 3:33pm On May 14, 2017
Iamzik:
One man Declaring another as SAINT. It is well o

God knows his Saints.

poor awareness!
Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by KENFERDYOORI(m): 3:36pm On May 14, 2017
heykims:
Sinner declaring another saint, funny..

And who makes you the arbitrator....

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Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by UjSizzle(f): 3:40pm On May 14, 2017
It's unnecessary arguments like this that makes me weep for the church. When Christ prayed for unity among the saints in John 17, I'm certain he did not intend for it to become a denominational battle.

You all need to let go of denominational Christianity. Stop boasting about your doctrines and church and centuries old traditions, and start boasting about Christ himself and his finished work.

Y'all are exhausting. I don't even know how many of the people arguing here are yet to detach themselves from their parent's apron and know God for themselves. When you do, then you'll stop making blanket statements like "I'm a [insert denomination] till I die." You will genuinely begin to understand what the apostle was talking about in Romans 8:28-30 and Christ in John15:16.

Stop glorifying your denomination above God. It's an ignorant and stupid act.

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Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by SABAXY: 3:42pm On May 14, 2017
jesus gave the power to do so
Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by An2elect2(f): 3:46pm On May 14, 2017
Nomswilli:
its clear that u were properly brainwashed.... If u no tell me the name of ur Church.. Then no quote me again cos I no go respond.....make we start there then we enter bible wink
Did you say you are 1.2 billion? That should scare every thing in you because the majority are always on the road to destruction.

(Matthew 7:13 KJV) Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by daveP(m): 3:49pm On May 14, 2017
Nonsense. Saints are living peeps and believers. Who gave this mortal man the right to decide who and who doesn't become a saint to be prayed to? Iyepe lasanlasan. Is it not the same RC that removed one from being a saint cos he never existed? So how come someone they claim prays on their behalf never existed, but was made a saint to be prayed to. Crappie crap, and more crap!!!!!

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Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by Iamzik: 3:50pm On May 14, 2017
cyrilamx:
Stop beating about the bush, counter my scriptural quotes of Matt. 9:1-8 and Jn 20:23, perhaps u more learned than the apostles and fathers of the Church. Well it not strange you sticking to ur personal interpretation which is the hallmark of protestantism/pentecoslism or our local parlance usage...man-made or sole proprietorship church. I even wonder if u even delve into church history to comprehend more historical truths of early Christian deeds. My dear is only a proud sinner that says he only confesses to God. If Christ empowered his apostles to forgive sins which can only happen through confession, who are u to go against Christ's injunctions. Maybe u tell me if the counselling going on in ur church ain't a type of confession. I can see ur pride..."mere flesh" no different from how the pharisees attacked Jesus in Matt. 9:1-8. Without theology there couldn't have been the Bible...because it was theologians-priests and Bishops alike that congregated at the councils of Hippo (393 A.D) and Carthage (397 A.D.) under the chairmanship of the Holy and great African bishop, St. Augustine to determine which of the numerous early christian writings will make the canons of the Bible. Afterwards, they submitted their findings to Pope Damasus for approval. So before u run ur ignorant brain against theology, think again.

No need to insult me. We are having a civil conversation here.

Talking about Pharisees: I said Jesus alone has the prerogative to forgive sins and I encourage you to go to him directly. Your pope and priest said you cannot go directly but through them. Now if you know anything about Pharisees at all you should know who is the real Pharisee here.

If Christ sent out his disciples and gives them power to forgive after baptising them in the Holy Ghost, does that not tell you that he only delegated authority? All they do and say is in his name.

When your priest declare you are forgiven. Who does the actual forgiveness? God or your priest?? If God then why Go through the priest. If you say it's the priest then you don't need God.

And have you had any instance where your priest used his so called "power" to retain the sin of the one who confessed?

It's like a court warder telling you that you are discharged and acquitted....He's only wishing you well cos he doesn't have that authority. Only the judge does.

Theology and dogmatic doctrines have been used to keep your likes in bondage for long.

Jesus died for me to have;
God-Jesus -Me

Why should I opt for ;
God-Jesus -Mary-Angel-Saint-Pope-Priest-Me

Pharisees were unnecessary middle men just as the ones above. And Christ has done away with them.

Peace
Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by Syncan(m): 3:51pm On May 14, 2017
JMAN05:


Syncan, I don't understand why someone had to die before ur church will declare him saint. Why?


Just think of the way someone had to be knighted before you use Sir for him, while Sir is still a respectful form of address used for men. If you can understand this example, it will be clear to you.

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Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by Syncan(m): 3:56pm On May 14, 2017
An2elect2:
Did you say you are 1.2 billion? That should scare every thing in you because the majority are always on the road to destruction.

(Matthew 7:13 KJV) Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:


Don't worry about that, in the earlier centuries, even before we compiled the bible, our ratio to heretics was a lot more than what it is today to protestants.

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Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by Youdondeymad: 4:00pm On May 14, 2017
Iamzik:


If you don't know that Catholics and protestants both believe in Jesus (which is the central belief of Christianity) then then you need serious schooling.

You seem to know so much about every other person's belief but your own. Educate us about your own beliefs. Perhaps you can convince the rest of us to become a free thinker like you.

My guts tell me you know nothing about free thinking but you just think its fashionable to claim to be one online. I can bet your parents are Christians.

This FREE THINKER wanna be sef grin grin grin grin
Stop speaking from both sides of your mouth,most Pentecostal members including you and your pastors do not believe that catholics are Christians.For instance,let's check the comments made by Pentecostal members on this thread alone and see if truly you saying the truth.Pentecostal churches are known or want to be known as "Bible Christians",bible believing churches, bla bla bla...they always accuse other churches especially the Catholic and white garment churches of not being Bible believing.

About my belief,it is the opposite of yours,it is all about mental freedom.From your post I can see that you are a Christian just because your parents are also Christians.You are right about my parents, oh yeah! they are Christians,my dad is a Catholic while my mum is a Pentecostal member but I'm not like you.Nobody can impose his or her religion on me unlike you,I believe in love,peace and unity.I believe in only one human race,I don't have to go inside my room and start shouting out prayers to God,often in the morning or late at night when people are sleeping.

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Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by Syncan(m): 4:02pm On May 14, 2017
UjSizzle:
It's unnecessary arguments like this that makes me weep for the church. When Christ prayed for unity among the saints in John 17, I'm certain he did not intend for it to become a denominational battle.

You all need to let go of denominational Christianity. Stop boasting about your doctrines and church and centuries old traditions, and start boasting about Christ himself and his finished work.

Y'all are exhausting. I don't even know how many of the people arguing here are yet to detach themselves from their parent's apron and know God for themselves. When you do, then you'll stop making blanket statements like "I'm a [insert denomination] till I die." You will genuinely begin to understand what the apostle was talking about in Romans 8:28-30 and Christ in John15:16.

Stop glorifying your denomination above God. It's an ignorant and stupid act.


When you're convinced about what you're doing, You can boast about it. When the early Christians preached against heretics, they boasted about the Church's teaching and about dying as members of the Church. You should be concerned about being in the fold, lest the wolves get hold of you. St Paul in Gal.2:2 was concerned such that he had to take what he was preaching to Peter and the other apostles, "lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vaint". You should be worried.
Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by Iamzik: 4:07pm On May 14, 2017
Youdondeymad:
Stop speaking from both sides of your mouth,most Pentecostal members including you and your pastors do not believe that catholics are Christians.For instance,let's check the comments made by Pentecostal members on this thread alone and see if truly you saying the truth.Pentecostal churches are known or want to be known as "Bible Christians",bible believing churches, bla bla bla...they always accuse other churches especially the Catholic and white garment churches of not being Bible believing.
No
About my belief,it is the opposite of yours,it is all about mental freedom.

Mental freedom Kwa?
Biko expantiate what does it feel like to be a free thinker so that the rest of us who are not "mental free" can be free at last.

No more thinking in bondage. FREE THINKING all the way.... grin grin grin grin
Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by krack89: 4:14pm On May 14, 2017
free2ryhme:


i dont need to research all i need is to read my bible...


Tell me where it is written that we must go through men to get to God


If I call you fool it will be like I insulted you... keep deceiving yourself with "where is it written in the bible"... you've not read in book of John that if everything that Jesus did were to be written in the bible that books would not contain it. .. did bible also tell you that Jesus took his bath or didn't he... I pity you... even you don't even know that bible contain larger books that we have now.. most of the books were removed.. even your bible is 5 books short of roman Catholic bible
Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by Youdondeymad: 4:18pm On May 14, 2017
Iamzik:


Mental freedom Kwa?
Biko expantiate what does it feel like to be a free thinker so that the rest of us who are not "mental free" can be free at last.

No more thinking in bondage. FREE THINKING all the way.... grin grin grin grin
I just modified my post.


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Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by UjSizzle(f): 4:21pm On May 14, 2017
Syncan:



When you're convinced about what you're doing, You can boast about it. When the early Christians preached against heretics, they boasted about the Church's teaching and about dying as members of the Church. You should be concerned about being in the fold, lest the wolves get hold of you. St Paul in Gal.2:2 was concerned such that he had to take what he was preaching to Peter and the other apostles, "lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vaint". You should be worried.
And this is your justification for all the denominational wars?
Has any of these churches who are supposedly protestants preached anything that contradicts what the bible says?
When one church does so, do you lash out against that church or is the default mode yet again Catholics vs Protestants?

I'm tires abeg.
Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by louismariae(m): 4:23pm On May 14, 2017
Iamzik:
One man Declaring another as SAINT. It is well o

God knows his Saints.

This Sunday sun must be scorching you really hard, for you to have missed where it read " after due deliberation and frequent prayer for divine assistance, and having sought the counsel of many of our brother Bishops, we declare and define Blessed Francisco Marto and Jacinta Marto to be saints,”
Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by Syncan(m): 4:26pm On May 14, 2017
UjSizzle:

And this is your justification for all the denominational wars?
Has any of these churches who are supposedly protestants preached anything that contradicts what the bible says?
When one church does so, do you lash out against that church or is the default mode yet again Catholics vs Protestants?

I'm tires abeg.


Stop acting all Innocent. This is a thread talking about an activity of the Catholic church, I wasn't the one that ran in here talking about "You shall not bow down to them or serve them...", only to turn around and claim not liking arguments. It was you, and that's hypocrisy. Tell yourself the truth, how many Catholics go into threads accusing Non Catholics of this or that? If you want to stop the war against Catholics, which you call denominational wars, then leave Catholics alone.

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Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by Iamzik: 4:30pm On May 14, 2017
louismariae:


This Sunday sun must be scorching you really hard, for you to have missed where it read " after due deliberation and frequent prayer for divine assistance, and having sought the counsel of many of our brother Bishops, we declare and define Blessed Francisco Marto and Jacinta Marto to be saints,”

On the contrary it's not sunny where I am.

Meanwhile

after due deliberation and frequent prayer for divine assistance, and having sought the counsel of many of our brother Bishops, we declare and define blessed louismariae to be saint


Congratulations!! You too are now a Saint
Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by atm090: 4:38pm On May 14, 2017
SS Francisco and Jacinta, pray for us

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Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by Youdondeymad: 4:42pm On May 14, 2017
Iamzik:


Mental freedom Kwa?
Biko expantiate what does it feel like to be a free thinker so that the rest of us who are not "mental free" can be free at last.

No more thinking in bondage. FREE THINKING all the way.... grin grin grin grin
A free thinker is someone who thinks for him/herself,they don't accept what pastor,daddy and mommy told them about the origins of the universe.They ask questions and think deeply,they believe that the affairs of human beings should be governed not by faith in the supernatural but by a reliance on reason and evidence adduced from the natural world.I have modified the former post,check it.


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Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by Iamzik: 4:45pm On May 14, 2017
Youdondeymad:
Stop speaking from both sides of your mouth,most Pentecostal members including you and your pastors do not believe that catholics are Christians.For instance,let's check the comments made by Pentecostal members on this thread alone and see if truly you saying the truth.Pentecostal churches are known or want to be known as "Bible Christians",bible believing churches, bla bla bla...they always accuse other churches especially the Catholic and white garment churches of not being Bible believing.

About my belief,it is the opposite of yours,it is all about mental freedom.From your post I can see that you are a Christian just because your parents are also Christians.You are right about my parents, oh yeah! they are Christians,my dad is a Catholic while my mum is a Pentecostal member but I'm not like you.Nobody can impose his or her religion on me unlike you,I believe in love,peace and unity.I believe in only one human race,I don't have to go inside my room and start shouting out prayers to God,often in the morning or late at night when people are sleeping.

Good clap for yourself! Your parents did their best and I respect them. At least you have heard the gospel. Salvation is personal. Your way, your choice.

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Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by jacoik(m): 4:52pm On May 14, 2017
Trueigbo:
Wow thats great after about 100yrs.

I remember the song we sang those days about the little children......

na obodo fatima na 1917 ezenwayi nke eligwe biawuteru umuaka ito osifa kpebe ekpere osifa mebe opipia.......
bro u for complete the song na. Honestly I have been singing the song since morning but don't really know it again till end
Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by Youdondeymad: 4:53pm On May 14, 2017
Iamzik:


Good clap for yourself! Your parents did their best and I respect them. At least you have heard the gospel. Salvation is personal. Your way, your choice.
grin Oh! it is a pleasure, have a great week ahead.I want you to know one thing before I leave,religion is the opium of the masses...no offence.



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Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by atm090: 4:59pm On May 14, 2017
keep on wasting your time while the church keeps growing and populating heaven. wondering how beautiful are mansions of SS Francisco and Jacinta.
Re: Pope Francis Canonizes Jacinta And Francisco, Two Child Saints, Makes History by Iamzik: 5:05pm On May 14, 2017
Youdondeymad:
grin Oh! it is a pleasure, have a great week ahead.I want you to know one thing before I leave,religion is the opium of the masses...no offence.



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The very nature of man makes its necessary to have some form of ideology, philosophy or belief system. In the absence of religion, yours is free thinking.

Unless you are the father of free thinking then I must say it's your opium as well.

Have a great productive week.

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