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CatfishBilly:
This would be a great read. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_HIV/AIDS
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_early_HIV/AIDS_cases
But I've noticed a shocking lack of reading culture in these parts, so I won't be surprised if no one reads this.

Where is Spacetacular biko?
I need a doctor here.

Pastafarian:
I'm not the type that just rubbishes things without at least proper thoughts, so if I did rubbish a link its definitely worth rubbishing

Funny how you are the one commending yourself. Shouldn't you allow a kin observer to say that of you?

Outside logicboy in this forum, I fine you to be one of the most illogical individuals here.

Anything that has to do with God, you don't even need to read it, it's trash.

Pastafarian:
why should they be "kept separate"?

you're pulling improbable hypothetical scenarios to somehow justify logically your being against homosexuality

and to even take you up on this hypothesis, a gay guy can go to doctor, deposit sperm, a lesbian can come to the same doctor and receive the sperm

they don't need to meet at all, they're still separate aren't they?

Oh dear. you asked a question and i answer you by drawing this inference.
Why is homosexuality wrong? is the question. And, as far as you are concerned we should keep God aside, fine i kept God aside.

Now, i said, homosexuality is wrong because it works against nature. Nature works with procreation, posterity and homosexuality ends posterity.
You said, they can procreate, and i asked how?

Can they who have decided to tie up their chromosomes have kids between themselves without Ovaries and sperms?
Why should a gay guy want a child when he is depositing his sperms into the anus of another man instead of doing so in the cervix of a woman?
If a lesbian decides to shun a pinis which is a rod-like straw with the liquid which naturally plunges into the mouth of the Ovary for the fertilization of her egg, then she shd decide to stay without a child.

Every thing God commands, satan subverts and perverts.

You are not Gay (i hope) but, you have the propensity to justify it's absurdity every time the case comes up.

Homosexuality is wrong, incest is wrong, pedophilia is wrong, animal mating is wrong and they are all sinful.

Akiintom:
Psychological conclusions on Christian apologists, are every day being confirmed on NL.

Just check this out!

Have you observed that non of the Christian here, has CLEARLY and UNAMBIGUOUSLY admitted the fact, that they're calling Homosexuality evil, demonic and sinful, because their BIBLE says so?

Why should the Christians talk outside the Bible?

God created man and demanded that man procreates for the purpose of posterity, you say no. Okay let's all say No to posterity and see how the world copes.

Doesn't even nature itself teach you that homosexuality is an abnormality?

If you want to keep the Bible aside, do so and but do not demand that of me.

Let me ask you, what in homosexuality do you think is right? Will you give your baby up for adoption to homo parents? Yes you will.

analice107:
Will you give your baby up for adoption to homo parents? Yes you will.

I will continue this conversation with you, on the condition that you don't bring ME into the thread.

analice107 post=56792453
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Let me ask you, what in homosexuality do you think is right?.

What's right?

*Homosexuality is a sexual orientation variant and not deviant. Scientifically speaking.

*therefore, Homosexuality is not a sexual orientation by choice.

*Homosexuals should therefore not be demonized, stigmatized, condemned or killed.

The above are what makes Homosexuality right, and require rational processing.

CatfishBilly:
We haven't been able to demonstrate that animals can give consent to sex, it's purely conjecture, so, until we can demonstrate, they can't​ give consent, and assuming consent is wrong, got Kemen kicked out of the house like I said earlier.

Parent having sex with an offspring is wrong because, the child in question hasn't gotten to the age of consent and to properly understand the consequences of the said action, so they can't give informed consent. Assumed age of competence is 18.
If a parent makes sexual advances towards an offspring, the said parent is abusing her position of authority like a Principal sleeping with his student, and empathy in humans doesn't allow for abuse of position of authority, so, it is wrong.
But if they are 2 adult siblings​, consenting and not having children, it's their business.
I have explained my position why bestiality and incest is wrong.

So if the son is above 18? Is it OK to sleep with the mother? And your comparison with principal, student is just weak. Its funny how you will see "abusing if authority" as morally wrong but abusing the normal sexual practise as OK.

ilynem:
So if the son is above 18? Is it OK to sleep with the mother? And your comparison with principal, student is just weak. Its funny how you will see "abusing if authority" as morally wrong but abusing the normal sexual practise as OK.

If the son is above 18, it's still not okay, the parent is abusing the position of authority. The comparison is not weak, it's another example of someone abusing their position of authority.

What is your definition of normal?
If something isn't well represented in the population in terms of population, does it make the said thing abnormal?

CatfishBilly:
If the son is above 18, it's still not okay, the parent is abusing the position of authority. The comparison is not weak, it's another example of someone abusing their position of authority.

What is your definition of normal?
If something isn't well represented in the population in terms of population, does it make the said thing abnormal?

There is a reason why homosexuality is not popular and it is not because of religious beliefs. It is the same reason why incest is not normal. You gave your reason of incest not being normal with medical backing. But we didn't always know this. People in the past didn't know this and yet they saw incest as an abomination.
Supporting homosexuality and bashing incest or mother-son dating is double standards at best. The mother abusing her authority? The son can say no. But he gave his consent! There is absolutely no abuse.

Akiintom:
I will continue this conversation with you, on the condition that you don't bring ME into the thread.



What's right?

*Homosexuality is a sexual orientation variant and not deviant. Scientifically speaking.

*therefore, Homosexuality is not a sexual orientation by choice.

*Homosexuals should therefore not be demonized, stigmatized, condemned or killed.

The above are what makes Homosexuality right, and require rational processing.

Scientifically speaking? Are the scientist who have proven that it's not a deviant? because till today science hasn't found anything about homosexuality that makes it natural.
It's a mental condition so it's wrong.

So far science hasn't ascertain that Homosexuality is natural.

ilynem:
How long before they start asking for their rights? Their excuse will be "I was born to be sexually attracted to children". Lies!

it's so pathetic the western world supports their sick desires... And call it "freedom"

glowryhaa:
it's so pathetic the western world supports their sick desires... And call it "freedom"

Nigeria has joined in oh. You haven't been paying attention.

analice107:
Oh dear. you asked a question and i answer you by drawing this inference.
Why is homosexuality wrong? is the question. And, as far as you are concerned we should keep God aside, fine i kept God aside.

Now, i said, homosexuality is wrong because it works against nature. Nature works with procreation, posterity and homosexuality ends posterity.
You said, they can procreate, and i asked how?

Can they who have decided to tie up their chromosomes have kids between themselves without Ovaries and sperms?
Why should a gay guy want a child when he is depositing his sperms into the anus of another man instead of doing so in the cervix of a woman?
If a lesbian decides to shun a pinis which is a rod-like straw with the liquid which naturally plunges into the mouth of the Ovary for the fertilization of her egg, then she shd decide to stay without a child.

Every thing God commands, satan subverts and perverts.

You are not Gay (i hope) but, you have the propensity to justify it's absurdity every time the case comes up.

Homosexuality is wrong, incest is wrong, pedophilia is wrong, animal mating is wrong and they are all sinful.

They are all wrong... The big question is why will someone support and advocate for survival of this depravity?... Obviously a fallen entity who hates the human is seriously at work.

analice107:
Scientifically speaking? Are the scientist who has proven that it's not a deviant? because till today science hasn't found anything about homosexuality that makes it natural.

Scientifically yes!

I wouldn't want to litter this page with plethora of overwhelming scientific reasons, why homosexuality is not deviant sexual orientation.

There are robust biological, psychological and physiological determinants, that clearly makes homosexuality, lean heavily towards variation as against deviation.

Isn't this an outrageous claim, likeable only to saying the sun rises from west? When you claim thus:

"because till today science hasn't found anything about homosexuality that makes it natural"


A Google search on this subject matter will, convince you to the contrary.

analice107:
It's a mental condition so it's wrong.

Can i have the scientific pinnings, for this mental claim?

Blackfire:
They are all wrong... The big question is why will someone support and advocate for survival of this depravity?... Obviously a fallen entity who hates the human is seriously at work.

And they take his side at every turn.

analice107:
Kevoh, most pastor's kids are worst because they are seriously neglected by their parents and it didn't start today.

Eli's Sons in the Bible turned out "Son of Belial" because their Father was too preoccupied with the Temples duties to train them in the way of the Lord. And, the case hasn't changed till today.
I know a pastor's only Child and son, who was sent to school abroad. he comes back breading his hair and badly sagging his pants. There's no any iota of Christianity in him.

You don't look at pastors kids and judge good up bringing.

There's no child who is raised well turns out wayward.

A portion of songs of Solomon book comes to mind... I take care of others vineyard while mine is unkempt.
I know a family where the other kids were loved and they turned out bad, but the other ones that was snubbed, rejuvenate themselves and came out of life a better person.

Sometimes it is the over pampering that Mar a child.

analice107:
Oh dear. you asked a question and i answer you by drawing this inference.
Why is homosexuality wrong? is the question. And, as far as you are concerned we should keep God aside, fine i kept God aside.

Now, i said, homosexuality is wrong because it works against nature. Nature works with procreation, posterity and homosexuality ends posterity.
You said, they can procreate, and i asked how?

Can they who have decided to tie up their chromosomes have kids between themselves without Ovaries and sperms?
Why should a gay guy want a child when he is depositing his sperms into the anus of another man instead of doing so in the cervix of a woman?
If a lesbian decides to shun a pinis which is a rod-like straw with the liquid which naturally plunges into the mouth of the Ovary for the fertilization of her egg, then she shd decide to stay without a child.

Every thing God commands, satan subverts and perverts.

You are not Gay (i hope) but, you have the propensity to justify it's absurdity every time the case comes up.

Homosexuality is wrong, incest is wrong, pedophilia is wrong, animal mating is wrong and they are all sinful.

that's one of the glaring difference between me and you guys

you guys start from conclusion and look for evidence that fits that, if there's none or if such "evidence" are found not to be concrete enough then look for scenarios that just happens to justify your position whether rare or hypothetical, and if there's no scenario then use faith, that still fits your conclusion

me on the other hand starts from the journey with no conclusion in sight and look at where "evidence" leads and if I do have a conclusion already in mind I'm always ready to review and change those conclusions if necessary

you gave a hypothetical scenario and I also gave you a solution even in that scenario but somehow you still want to force your conclusion

sex is simply a pleasurable thing, babies are cherries on top as far as evidence is concerned, an overwhelming number of sex won't lead to pregnancy, and a number those that leads to pregnancy leads to termination of the pregnancy

that should tell you that reproduction isn't the primary purpose of sex!

if pleasure is the primary purpose of sex in humans and these homos can't feel pleasure or not as much pleasure in the opposite sex and found out they feel pleasure with same sex, which made them look around for some other people that are in the same situation to give and receive pleasure from each other and there's been no evidence so far of it being medically wrong so I see nothing bad in it at all

of course, your pulling incest and pedophilia which I already addressed in my second post on this thread

analice107:
Why do i find all atheists taking a stand for homosexuality? Is it because the Bible is against it?

That should be the answer dear. They're against anything God is against. If they aren't, it won't make them atheists

analice107:
The question should be, shd we now do as dogs do? Are we so degenerated that we begin to copy dogs?

Lord!!!!, Human beings now compare themselves with animals. because dogs are doing it, it's alright to do it.

Why aren't this atheists having sex publicly in broad day light since dogs do it?

The lessons I've learnt on homosexuality topics here on nairaland is that, human beings are to learn the behaviours of animals and apply it to their lives.

I never knew that's how low humans have become.

bennyann:
That should be the answer dear. They're against anything God is against. If they aren't, it won't make them atheists

You mean if they aren't, it won't make them satanists?

Sons of perdition.

analice107:
If we are to be separated into three groups;
1. Opposite sex: Males ans females.
2. Only Males.
3. Only females
And, leave us like that for a 100 years, what do you think will happen to the only males and the only females?

You have not seen anything wrong because we are still kept together. they adopt kids which come as a result of two opposites sexes coming together to produce.

You said Homosexuals can also have kids by taking the male sperms and fertilizing it with his partners Testosterone?

bennyann:
The lessons I've learnt on homosexuality topics here on nairaland is that, human beings are to learn the behaviours of animals and apply it to their lives.

I never knew that's how low humans have become.

Are you sure you learnt that here?

I dont like homosexual act. It disgusts as well as irritates me. The thought of the act alone makes me want to pull out my own skin. It does not go well with my sense of natural order of things. If I my child turns out gay, I will feel bad and see myself as a failed parent, I will take responsibility and that is why I will do my best as a parent now so as not to have myself to blame.

But the fact still remains that its their choice, they hurt no one sleeping with each other. I tend not to make their sexual life style my business, afterall, its really not my business.

If in future, people see it as a normal thing, then this is nothing I have control of, i will not be bothered about that either.

the woman in the pix loves her daughter... its her f**king business. I really dont care... she can call her husband and both can have party, it aint gonna bother me in anyway just as long as i will not stop me from buy the land I want to buy at abijor.

bennyann:

it seems that going by the wonderful logic of this hypothetical scenario Analice107 keeps trotting out like a gotcha that she hasn't even considered bisexuals

so if "separating and no children possible" is all she's got what then does she have to say to bisexuals?

glowryhaa:
We live in a perverted world where even pedophiles think their desires are only natural and should be accepted in the society... May God help us

Amen ooo

analice107:
Cc: Spacetacular. Is this true?

Hello Alice how are you? I know I promised to be here whenever I am off work so here I am. Haven't slept much since last night as we kept waiting to see if we would be called up to assist in Manchester. What's up?

Pastafarian:
that's one of the glaring difference between me and you guys

you guys start from conclusion and look for evidence that fits that, if there's none or if such "evidence" are found not to be concrete enough then look for scenarios that just happens to justify your position whether rare or hypothetical, and if there's no scenario then use faith, that still fits your conclusion

me on the other hand starts from the journey with no conclusion in sight and look at where "evidence" leads and if I do have a conclusion already in mind I'm always ready to review and change those conclusions if necessary

you gave a hypothetical scenario and I also gave you a solution even in that scenario but somehow you still want to force your conclusion

sex is simply a pleasurable thing, babies are cherries on top as far as evidence is concerned, an overwhelming number of sex won't lead to pregnancy, and a number those that leads to pregnancy leads to termination of the pregnancy

that should tell you that reproduction isn't the primary purpose of sex!

if pleasure is the primary purpose of sex and these homos can't feel pleasure or not as much pleasure in the opposite sex and found out they feel pleasure with same sex, which made them look around for some other people that are in the same situation to give and receive pleasure from each other and there's been no evidence so far of it being medically wrong so I see nothing bad in it at all

of course, your pulling incest and pedophilia which I already addressed in my second post on this thread

reproduction is not the primary purpose of sex according to atheists or who? Obviously you do not see anything wrong with abortions.

Sex is not basically for pleasure sir, it is for reproduction. Yes not every intercourse leads to pregnancy, but everyone engaging in sex knows that what goes out of a man into a woman results to pregnancy, that's why we try to play save by knowing when to do it or use Condoms.

The pleasure there makes you desire it more often in order to keep doing it, to keep reproducing.
If the pleasure is absent, we won't keep doing it, and God's injunction, 'Go into the World and procreate and fill it with children will not be fulfilled.

Sir, why do you use Condom if pleasure is all you desire in sex? Didn't i hear that condoms reduces the pleasure in sex? Yet you do it why?

Blackfire:
A portion of songs of Solomon book comes to mind... I take care of others vineyard while mine is unkempt.
I know a family where the other kids were loved and they turned out bad, but the other ones that was snubbed, rejuvenate themselves and came out of life a better person.

Sometimes it is the over pampering that Mar a child.

Exactly my dearest.

spacetacular:
Hello Alice how are you? I know I promised to be here whenever I am off work so here I am. Haven't slept much since last night as we kept waiting to see if we would be called up to assist in Manchester. What's up?

The Manchester bombing! That's so sad and unfortunate. Heard about it this morning.

spacetacular:
Hello Alice how are you? I know I promised to be here whenever I am off work so here I am. Haven't slept much since last night as we kept waiting to see if we would be called up to assist in Manchester. What's up?

Dockie am good. Am so proud of you sacrificing to help us even when some of us are better off dead.
Welcome. pls rest, we have time to do this later.

Just that, these guys are talking about science proving that homosexuality is natural so nothing is wrong with it. Well, am not a scientist, so i lean on Doctors and you are a good one.

When you are done resting, pls educate me.

Akiintom:
I will continue this conversation with you, on the condition that you don't bring ME into the thread.



What's right?

*Homosexuality is a sexual orientation variant and not deviant. Scientifically speaking.

*therefore, Homosexuality is not a sexual orientation by choice.

*Homosexuals should therefore not be demonized, stigmatized, condemned or killed.

The above are what makes Homosexuality right, and require rational processing.

When you say 'by choice' , what do you mean?

Do you mean humans can't control whatever they crave for and once they crave for it, then it's said to be normal?
And because it's said to be normal, therefore it is beyond the control of humans?

Pastafarian:
it seems that going by the wonderful logic of this hypothetical scenario Analice107 keeps trotting out like a gotcha that she hasn't even considered bisexuals

so if "separating and no children possible" is all she's got what then does she have to say to bisexuals?

Oh Lawdddd, those are the worst. It's an abnormally. they have sex with women and with men? that's the height of depravity.

Come O Lord Jesus, Come.

frank317:
I dont like homosexual act. It disgusts as well as irritates me. The thought of the act alone makes me want to pull out my own skin. It does not go well with my sense of natural order of things. If I my child turns out gay, I will feel bad and see myself as a failed parent, I will take responsibility and that is why I will do my best as a parent now so as not to have myself to blame.

But the fact still remains that its their choice, they hurt no one sleeping with each other. I tend not to make their sexual life style my business, afterall, its really not my business.

If in future, people see it as a normal thing, then this is nothing I have control of, i will not be bothered about that either.

the woman in the pix loves her daughter... its her f**king business. I really dont care... she can call her husband and both can have party, it aint gonna bother me in anyway just as long as i will not stop me from buy the land I want to buy at abijor.

But you do realise that the kind of environment your child grows in plays a huge part in his or her sexual orientation?