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felixomor:
Honestly. If not 99%
Many of them dont even know the statistical occurence and incidence of Hallucinations.
Any cockroach, they just shout hallucination.

You and ebuka will not kill me with laughter.

I think whatever is against their reasoning gives rise to the bolded

I'm really sorry for this writer.
She needs psychological debriefing. What she's experiencing or experienced is(was) vivid imagery of the dead person, NOT GHOST. It's a usual occurrence in PTSD and some other psychological conditions.
It will disappeare with time but if it persists kindly seek help.

But on a general note, how was the fluid management done? That kind of temperature would have drained the fluid out of that woman in sepsis with or without blood loss from surgical site.
Did you consider DIC? Many questions for the primary managing team and your senior colleagues.

Well done anyway!

Oyindidi:
Watin you smoke?

i wan rap nah,haba,na crime to rap again?

MDGsVISIBLE:
She was a Yoruba Christian. She was praying, holding my hands, saying that I should not let her die, that she still has little children at home. She then started behaving abnormally, talking irrationally and screaming, also convulsing intermittently.
At this point, I called a senior who came in, assessed her and told me privately that she won't make it. He told me to continue masterly activity which I did.

Hello Bro, from my point of view.. Though she was praying but her faith could no longer sustained her at the point of death,she needs a super faith so she held your hand. She recognized you as a Doctor but most importantly as a spiritual authority she can join her faith with( If two shall agree...)Next time , strengthen their faith(At the point of death human spirit is more sensitive to hear, see things both physically & spiritually, she saw in you a spiritual giant you are not even aware of)
You did your best as a professional & I do commend you. When she started behaving abnormally, it was your turn to take the spiritual authority & office to calm the storm(may be you even did)
When you called your senior, he did assessed her and told you privately that she won't make it. That's owk professionally but in your spiritual office that was evil seed sowed in your heart to believe she won't make it. He told you to continue masterly activity which you did. Like I stated, human spirit is more sensitive to hear, see things both physically & spiritually, she might have heard your discussion with your senior in her spirit & later saw all your masterly activity. It got her more in doubt why you are not exercising your spiritual authority despite she saw you as a royal priest hood & yet still acting like you care with the evil seed that she can't live anymore.
She came back to ask you why did you allow her to die..? But you did your best...that means there is something you would have done to save her...what's is that..?
Professionally you did all but in your Spiritual office you need to b awake. May be you have faith and healing ministry you need to step into along side been a clinician.
Also note that God strategically put you on a call duty that day because you will be the best man for the job(Spiritual office)...
I will advice you to visit her children at will, tell her family that's her concerned at the point of death..check them sometimes & give them your support.
Stay blessed @ duketunde

Wow! Your piece and summary is simply breathtaking

Ehnn nd u hold ur iPhone nd u know quickly snap or better still record ur conversation.

Chaii!!!!!

why do doctors love Coke!

eph123:
Exactly.
Wasn't it just few days ago LUTH doctors were protesting about delayed salary payments?
Until all government officials are forced to use the medical facilities in Nigeria, we're going nowhere.

Exactly!

MDGsVISIBLE:
She was a Yoruba Christian. She was praying, holding my hands, saying that I should not let her die, that she still has little children at home. She then started behaving abnormally, talking irrationally and screaming, also convulsing intermittently.
At this point, I called a senior who came in, assessed her and told me privately that she won't make it. He told me to continue masterly activity which I did.

Hello Bro, from my point of view.. Though she was praying but her faith could no longer sustained her at the point of death,she needs a super faith so she held your hand. She recognized you as a Doctor but most importantly as a spiritual authority she can join her faith with( If two shall agree...)Next time , strengthen their faith(At the point of death human spirit is more sensitive to hear, see things both physically & spiritually, she saw in you a spiritual giant you are not even aware of)
You did your best as a professional & I do commend you. When she started behaving abnormally, it was your turn to take the spiritual authority & office to calm the storm(may be you even did)
When you called your senior, he did assessed her and told you privately that she won't make it. That's owk professionally but in your spiritual office that was evil seed sowed in your heart to believe she won't make it. He told you to continue masterly activity which you did. Like I stated, human spirit is more sensitive to hear, see things both physically & spiritually, she might have heard your discussion with your senior in her spirit & later saw all your masterly activity. It got her more in doubt why you are not exercising your spiritual authority despite she saw you as a royal priest hood & yet still acting like you care with the evil seed that she can't live anymore.
She came back to ask you why did you allow her to die..? But you did your best...that means there is something you would have done to save her...what's is that..?
Professionally you did all but in your Spiritual office you need to b awake. May be you have faith and healing ministry you need to step into along side been a clinician.
Also note that God strategically put you on a call duty that day because you will be the best man for the job(Spiritual office)...
I will advice you to visit her children at will, tell her family that's her concerned at the point of death..check them sometimes & give them your support.
Stay blessed @ duketunde

This is really an eye opener. GOD bless you cause you have just woken up the spirit in me, I have been spiritually lazy for some time and it really has not been so great when i check myself back in the days when i waw spiritually active. People need to know thier gifts spiritualy and also use it to help not just themselves but also others.

Please listen to her. There is nothing like ghost, its a demon in disguise. You did your best if God wanted her to live she would have lived.

adadike281:
U did your best. if God wants, he would have let her live. if she comes again, tell her to table her case before God, that u did your best. it might even be a demon in disguise and not d actual ghost. free your mind and maybe spend days with a family member or close friend. ndo, jisike.

NOETHNICITY:
This is coming frm one who has been insulting pple and their generations for calling Ojukwu, a man who led 2million pple to their deaths while he fled the country after defeat, a coward.
Nawao

He has no right to insult our man.. He lost a war but I admire him for taking up the challenge of fighting our oppressors..

Since he lost the war, what is our state as a country? My brother we have lost more people out of war than we lost during war! Have u ever thought about it?

The people killed by boko haram and various attacks across the country...

The people killed by bad roads

The people killed by failed health care system

The people killed by hunger

The people killed by criminal elements as a result of failed security system

The people killed by poverty

The people killed as a result of political crises

The people killed during election

The people killed as a result of endless religious and ethnic crises

My brother.... we could have corrected all these death if we had faced our fears.. if we had conquered our oppressors..

He led a war to end the barbaric system of government that will never work.. he is not a coward ... We are the cowards for knowing fully well that we are not happy with our system of government but kept quiet because we dont want to die.. we are the real cowards..

duketunde:
"I encountered the ghost of a dead woman yesterday night/early hours of this morning. Remembering it still sends chills across my body.
Personally, I don't believe in ghosts. I know that it is appointed unto men once to die, and after that, judgment follows. I said let me tell you, to hear your opinion. I don't know who else to confide in about this. I'm a doctor. I can't be telling stories about ghosts online. No one will believe it. I'll sound insane.

Yesterday night that brought in today, I took call for a colleague who was having menstrual pain. She begged me to do the call for her. Then, a woman was brought in with what I suspected to be post surgical sepsis. The op site was soaked with effluent from the wound. The surgery was done at State Specialist Hospital three days prior to presenting to us. Her temperature read "Hi" on the thermometer, which means her body was so hot that the thermometer could not record it. I called my seniors who were in theatre then, told them what I have with me in the emergency, and I took instructions from them. I secured IV access. I gave 2g of IV cefriaxone (Rocephin brand) stat, and IV Flagyl 500mg stat. She was going. I called my seniors again and told them temperature is not coming down after one hour. I was told to give IV PCM 600mg stat. I then reopened the wound, washed with NS, and redressed with savlon and povidone iodine.

She was a Yoruba Christian. She was praying, holding my hands, saying that I should not let her die, that she still has little children at home. She then started behaving abnormally, talking irrationally and screaming, also convulsing intermittently.
At this point, I called a senior who came in, assessed her and told me privately that she won't make it. He told me to continue masterly activity which I did.

She finally died after few hours she was brought in. I certified her dead in her file, disconnected all life support, and went to my house to sleep around 3am when the call got less busy. I was weak and sad. Did you know, this woman followed me home. I was shocked when I felt there was someone looking at me from my window. My body was shaking. I've never believed in ghosts, but she came to my window and stood there, with same clothes she was wearing when she was brought in. She said why did I allow her to die. I was lost for words for a moment, thinking I was dreaming. But damn, it wasn't a dream. I just drank coke from the fridge few minutes ago. I rebuked her in Jesus' name, telling her I did my best. I told her to go back to where she came from. She stood there for a while, looking at me, then turned and walked away. I heard her footsteps as she walked away. I didn't sleep again till morning. I opened the fridge and took out coke and drank, to be sure I was not dreaming, then started praying in tongues to control the fear in my heart."

What can be a reasonable explanation for this?

Credit: Chukwudi Iwuchukwu on https://web.facebook.com/chukwudi.iwuchukwu?hc_ref=NEWSFEED

doc, you really did your best. Yes, it was post surgical sepsis complicated by electrolyte imbalance. Electrolyte imbalance usually happens in sepsis together with severe anemia. But from ur narrative, I believe it was Electrolyte imbalance. I hope u guys do mortality review in your centre. It always helps in future management of other patients. Pray well. But the ghost won't hurt u since u r innocent.

NOETHNICITY:
This is coming frm one who has been insulting pple and their generations for calling Ojukwu, a man who led 2million pple to their deaths while he fled the country after defeat, a coward.
Nawao

but we have lost more people outside the war than we lost during the war

Number of people who have died becus of this failed useless system of govt is more than the number we lost during war..

People who died as a result of hunger, Boko haram, poverty, failed medical system, bad roads, failed security system, nepotism, suicide etc. The number is far higher than what we lost during the war

Stop insulting a man who was courageous enough to fight a system he saw that will never work.. what he said is happening now.. Just that black race is so stubborn and has no leadership solution.. This system of govt we are operating is a failure on it own...

We must not be politically and constitutionally united.. allow regions run their things...run their resources, run their system.. we will make progress... if u dont allow that.. u are calling for serious unrest...

Has Nigeria ever known peace of mind since after the war?

The real cowards are u and I who are aware that we are suffering as a result of failed system of govt but we are too scared to die fighting the oppressors.. The man who fought a whole country along with her mighty friends like Egypt but lost is not the coward.. we are glad he was not killed..it could have been worst for us..

Alhaji1970:
I'm really sorry for this writer.
She needs psychological debriefing. What she's experiencing or experienced is(was) vivid imagery of the dead person, NOT GHOST. It's a usual occurrence in PTSD and some other psychological conditions.
It will disappeare with time but if it persists kindly seek help.

But on a general note, how was the fluid management done? That kind of temperature would have drained the fluid out of that woman in sepsis with or without blood loss from surgical site.
Did you consider DIC? Many questions for the primary managing team and your senior colleagues.

Well done anyway!

DIC is probable, but I'm sure it was sudden degenerating Electrolyte imbalance. Remember it was after evacuating the effluent and washing with normal saline that the patient degenerated. Patient probably already had some degree of Electrolyte imbalance. But the effluent served as a tamponade to more loss. So washing it off, opened the tap to increased loss of electrolytes at the wound site. That caused the irrational behaviour and shut down.

Airforce1:
Your efforts weren't good enough

What? You must be mean to make such statement. From the post above it's obvious he did what a well trained doctor would have done. Moreover from his write up he's either a house officer or are junior reg and you are here passing judgement. Be careful?

am sure most people would have said it in these three words hallucinations or Dream

Airforce1:
If he's qualified, why put a call across a colleague on what drug to give a patient in critical condition?

Stop exposing your ignorance to the whole world.

Prettyenit18:
Please listen to her. There is nothing like ghost, its a demon in disguise. You did your best if God wanted her to live she would have lived.

God bless u my sister

nawa o, I only wanted to mock her reaction and I was kidding but na u carry am for head bro while she no react. Ehn make I kuku dey laff u den

phineas:
this is why lay people like you for example should stay away from medical posts.Theres no where in the post the op said he gave an NSAID like dicoldenac.Any medical student anywhere in the world knows it's a no no for a patient with renal failure or anyone suceptible to renal failure

secondly, management of high grade fever is commenced by nurses before Dr's even see the patient,that's why he won't write the first steps in the write up cos the nurses would have handled that.

Summary,stay away from medical posts unless you have a degree that says medical

Wow
.
U sound very sure o, but I guess u were so scared watching the movie and u kept thinking through it, did u?

sisisioge:
It was in real life. I watched a movie about a ghost during the day. That night, it was my turn to lock up the small gate that lead to our staircase. It was kinda dark and the said ghost appeared after I had locked up. It didn't say anything, was just looking at me. I screamed and ran upstairs falling and standing all the way up...I had a good number injury on my legs by the time I reached upstairs. I thought I would die because it was the longest 1minute of my life...my heart was on fire. Whew! I know what I saw dude...it was real! As real as the boko insurgent.

stevecantrell:
I thought this post is about Ghosts.

All im seeing here is JAMB, half baked dr and dead music career...

On the other hand this forum is so hostile to anything about doctors....imagine arguing medicine with a snotty kid who is taking remedial classes for SSCE....Chai a shame indeed.

That's because in Nigeria, doctors are generally perceived to be undertrained and incompetent. Not the common man's fault. Poor training by teaching hospitals​ and Na our govt no give us better health care.
At least in developed countries, doctors are seen as the angels of healing without much resort to shamans, Alfas and pastors.
I lost a dear brother to the cold hands of death yesterday because he couldn't pass urine and faeces. He was admitted to the hospital for FIVE days, yet not a cure was proffered. He died! At the young age of 30. I will never hear his voice again nor will he recount his exploits with young girls ever again.
He is gone because some doctor could not treat whatever ailment made him unable to pass stool.

Nigerian doctors thank you for your incompetencies.

Princedapace:
but we have lost more people outside the war than we lost during the war

Number of people who have died becus of this failed useless system of govt is more than the number we lost during war..

People who died as a result of hunger, Boko haram, poverty, failed medical system, bad roads, failed security system, nepotism, suicide etc. The number is far higher than what we lost during the war

Stop insulting a man who was courageous enough to fight a system he saw that will never work.. what he said is happening now.. Just that black race is so stubborn and has no leadership solution.. This system of govt we are operating is a failure on it own...

We must not be politically and constitutionally united.. allow regions run their things...run their resources, run their system.. we will make progress... if u dont allow that.. u are calling for serious unrest...

Has Nigeria ever known peace of mind since after the war?

The real cowards are u and I who are aware that we are suffering as a result of failed system of govt but we are too scared to die fighting the oppressors.. The man who fought a whole country along with her mighty friends like Egypt but lost is not the coward.. we are glad he was not killed..it could have been worst for us..

but the man ran away. did he not?

youmour:
It's so unfair they can see us but we can't see them,I will love to speak with my mum again,just to know if she's comfortable at the other side.

You will be there too at some point, it's only a transformation of energy.

IamaNigerianGuy:
The patient came into the hospital as an emergency. In such cases, the first doctor available irrespective of rank should attend to the patient. Furthermore, we are told that the other doctors were in the operating theatre. If they were to leave the patient on the operating table, that would mean almost certain death.

What the doctor did was correct given the circumstance. He started emergency care and asked for advice on any added treatment he should give. Unfortunately, the patient died despite his efforts.

Maybe in another country she may have survived. But her death is not due to the doctors negligence. If a senior had been present, she most likely would still have died given her condition.

Nigeria is a very bad country to fall sick. Our hospitals lack facilities. No drugs. No light. No equipment. No bed space. Patients don't have money. They present to hospital late. Doctors and nurses learn advanced techniques in school but cannot practice them on the ground. Lab scientists beg for chemical reagents and microscopes.
How can we lack doctors and nurses and still export the few we have to Europe the middle East and America ? How can 'a whole' President go abroad for treatment and abandon his people to die at home? .
How can we watch unconcerned while Saraki and Dogara propose to spend 150 billion on 365 people in the NASS while the remaining 180 million are left to die?

This is madness. Nigerian madness.
.
The solution is REVOLUTION. Unless and until we revolt and deal with the thieves in power; sack all of them and get better governance; we will continue to die like fowl.

That is the truth.
Thank you sir for your question.

Thanks so much. Bye for now.

tshege:
That's because in Nigeria, doctors are generally perceived to be undertrained and incompetent. Not the common man's fault. Poor training by teaching hospitals​ and Na our govt no give us better health care.
At least in developed countries, doctors are seen as the angels of healing without much resort to shamans, Alfas and pastors.
I lost a dear brother to the cold hands of death yesterday because he couldn't pass urine and faeces. He was admitted to the hospital for FIVE days, yet not a cure was proffered. He died! At the young age of 30. I will never hear his voice again nor will he recount his exploits with young girls ever again.
He is gone because some doctor could not treat whatever ailment made him unable to pass stool.

Nigerian doctors thank you for your incompetencies.

Im so sorry for your loss. Its really a shame such things still happen.

Life is indeed very cheap in this contraption we call 'home'.

But as long as doctors remain human. We can never expect to get 100% perfect healthcare..anywhere in the world.

My GP almost killed me by making just one decision about a chronic "flu" symptoms I was experiencing in winter of 2005. His mistake cost me 18 months of my life. This was in the UK !

I lost 5% of my total lung capacity, some suggested I sue them but I count myself very lucky i survived.

Besides, it would be funny for a Dr. suing his GP...Nah! couldnt bring myself to do that.

My Jamaican friend had an abnormal testicle, and was scheduled for elective surgery to remove it

Guess what ? They removed the WRONG ONE. THE NORMAL ONE.

This guy didnt even have any children at the time. The NHS paid him compensation of GBP 20,000 and he was smiling !
I wept for him when he told me ...

Again im really sorry for your loss, not all medical personnel value life in this country. it looks like they made up their mind he was unsaveable. That is against their oath as doctors. They should hang up their stethoscope and tear up their MBBS degree.

Ive been in your shoes, you will heal as time passes or at least the loss wont hurt so bad as it does now.
Youll miss him on special occasions like your wedding day and those ordinary days when you got stuff on your mind only a brother can understand.

They say time is a healer, but the scar would always remain.

Take heart.

victorDanladi:
Mr Man go and sleep.You know nothing about medical practice!!

....don't mind him....some people must talk....he obviously does not know there is something called call duty ..

stevecantrell:
Im so sorry for your loss. Its really a shame such things still happen.

Life is indeed very cheap in this contraption we call 'home'.

But as long as doctors remain human. We can never expect to get 100% perfect healthcare..anywhere in the world.

My GP almost killed me by making just one decision about a chronic "flu" symptoms I was experiencing in winter of 2005. His mistake cost me 18 months of my life. This was in the UK !

I lost 5% of my total lung capacity, some suggested I sue them but I count myself very lucky i survived.

Besides, it would be funny for a Dr. suing his GP...Nah! couldnt bring myself to do that.

My Jamaican friend had an abnormal testicle, and was scheduled for elective surgery to remove it

Guess what ? They removed the WRONG ONE. THE NORMAL ONE.

This guy didnt even have any children at the time. The NHS paid him compensation of GBP 20,000 and he was smiling !
I wept for him when he told me ...

Again im really sorry for your loss, not all medical personnel value life in this country. it looks like they made up their mind he was unsaveable. That is against their oath as doctors. They should hang up their stethoscope and tear up their MBBS degree.

Ive been in your shoes, you will heal as time passes or at least the loss wont hurt so bad as it does now.
Youll miss him on special occasions like your wedding day and those ordinary days when you got stuff on your mind only a brother can understand.

They say time is a healer, but the scar would always remain.

Take heart.

Pele dear...

Good morning

Firstly, I don't think it was a Dr dt wrote ds because at d end I saw *credit to Chukwudi Iwuchukwu*

Then, if it's a Dr, I wonder y he came to a social media to write ds: is it for sympathy or advice from a general public who do not fully understand ds case and it's management?. I usually frown at people taking their person issues to d social media

Then about d case, dt woman presented late and for all its worth, that case was already destined to end in death. D only thing dey may do abroad is to put her on life support till her family come to terms that she's dead

Now, if there must b a blame anywhere, it would b to d hospital dt did d surgery for d woman. But still dey are not going to take d blame fully because every surgery is a risk and dts y dey ask u to sign an informed consent form where u agree that dey should go ahead with d surgery no matter the outcome.

Then as for d Dr calling his seniors, it is protocol. In a teaching hospital or govt centre, u just hv to get to ur seniors. Though I assume he should hv done first aid without asking questions, dts y he's d first on call

At d end, it's only those in d field dt will appreciate his predicament fully. Dts why going to nairaland was a very poor idea.

If I'm him, I won't feel guilty. I will even discuss freely with dt spirit because I must hv done my best

Culin:
Exactly! There are even equipments that can spot out ghosts by detecting heat signatures. Science proves that ghosts exist.

In order news i regret reading this post cos it's 02:48 amd i'm scared to hell.

Scared of ghosts Small geh!!! Me DAT saw one nko

duketunde:
"I encountered the ghost of a dead woman yesterday night/early hours of this morning. Remembering it still sends chills across my body.
Personally, I don't believe in ghosts. I know that it is appointed unto men once to die, and after that, judgment follows. I said let me tell you, to hear your opinion. I don't know who else to confide in about this. I'm a doctor. I can't be telling stories about ghosts online. No one will believe it. I'll sound insane.

Yesterday night that brought in today, I took call for a colleague who was having menstrual pain. She begged me to do the call for her. Then, a woman was brought in with what I suspected to be post surgical sepsis. The op site was soaked with effluent from the wound. The surgery was done at State Specialist Hospital three days prior to presenting to us. Her temperature read "Hi" on the thermometer, which means her body was so hot that the thermometer could not record it. I called my seniors who were in theatre then, told them what I have with me in the emergency, and I took instructions from them. I secured IV access. I gave 2g of IV cefriaxone (Rocephin brand) stat, and IV Flagyl 500mg stat. She was going. I called my seniors again and told them temperature is not coming down after one hour. I was told to give IV PCM 600mg stat. I then reopened the wound, washed with NS, and redressed with savlon and povidone iodine.

She was a Yoruba Christian. She was praying, holding my hands, saying that I should not let her die, that she still has little children at home. She then started behaving abnormally, talking irrationally and screaming, also convulsing intermittently.
At this point, I called a senior who came in, assessed her and told me privately that she won't make it. He told me to continue masterly activity which I did.

She finally died after few hours she was brought in. I certified her dead in her file, disconnected all life support, and went to my house to sleep around 3am when the call got less busy. I was weak and sad. Did you know, this woman followed me home. I was shocked when I felt there was someone looking at me from my window. My body was shaking. I've never believed in ghosts, but she came to my window and stood there, with same clothes she was wearing when she was brought in. She said why did I allow her to die. I was lost for words for a moment, thinking I was dreaming. But damn, it wasn't a dream. I just drank coke from the fridge few minutes ago. I rebuked her in Jesus' name, telling her I did my best. I told her to go back to where she came from. She stood there for a while, looking at me, then turned and walked away. I heard her footsteps as she walked away. I didn't sleep again till morning. I opened the fridge and took out coke and drank, to be sure I was not dreaming, then started praying in tongues to control the fear in my heart."

What can be a reasonable explanation for this?

Credit: Chukwudi Iwuchukwu on https://web.facebook.com/chukwudi.iwuchukwu?hc_ref=NEWSFEED

Ghosts do not exist ....no one dies and returns in any form ..evil spirits yes but not ghost

nurshah:
Ghosts do not exist ....no one dies and returns in any form ..evil spirits yes but not ghost

Don't say what you don't know. Purge yourself of bad information like this.

snowblaq:
....don't mind him....some people must talk....he obviously does not know there is something called call duty ..

Abi ooo

almarthins:
The medical practice that kip sending more Nigerians to early grave. My friend go and sit down. Na u no sabi ur work. Una need to relearn una discipline. Nigerian doctors na medical marketers working for different companies. Referrer doctors

lolz...we know your type.

Na Nigerian doctor treated the following:

musa yaradua

moji olaiya

Ayinde barrister

dora Akuiyili

And many more

They all died in a foreign hospital!!!