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naturalwaves:
Lol
Don't take the insults too seriously though. I know people say" play without stress" but it is wrong. You cannot play football without stress. No one plays football without stress. You can come up with another way of expressing how he plays but saying he plays without stress is a No No.

ok

Sanchase:
Messi is a good player, he dribbles and scores. He motivates his team mates with his presence in a game. He has played in Barcelona all his life.

Ronaldo is not just a player, he is a champion. He came to Manchester United and dropped a dynamite winning record, just when we thought he has attained his apex, he challenged himself more and left for Real Madrid.

The dynamite he drops at real Madrid every year will be talked about in decades to come.

So look at the statistics before deciding who is really more talented.

Which dynamite winning record? You guys make it sound like United was a small team.. Even without Ronaldo, they have always been a force to reckon with in English football, up until recent years.. So, what do u have to say about a certain Suarez that scored more goals in his last season at Liverpool even with a weaker teammates?

Rapahel1116:
Na dis one pain me pass self....I no wan talk BT I go talk.....guy who is a complete player.?....ronaldo is a complete forward messi is a complete player ....messi can play as a 9,11,7,10,8,even as a defencibe midfielder.... Ronaldo can only play as a winger or Cf...so tel me who's the complete player?

B lyk say u dey watch back of TV.

Messi play 7 and 11... So Messi go run for one wing all through the game and outrun players to cross. Guy take am easy with the lies.

Messi is a natural 10 and developed a phenomenal goal scoring technique which can make him play an 8 or 9. But his preferred position is a free-flowing player taking on the pressure of the opposition and making it easy for his teammates to find space. And that's why it appears like he can play all attacking and midfield positions.

Ronaldo is a natural 7/11. And like Messi, he developed a phenomenal goal scoring technique which can make him play an 8 or 9. Playing Ronaldo in the midfield is a waste of his abilities. But he'd play anywhere if asked to.

So if you are a coach, you'd rather have a Messi as DM than Ronaldo with his build?

What Ronaldo lacks in Midfield, Messi lacks in the wings.

But as Pele said, if he was a coach, he'd prefer to have a clinical finisher than a runner. Tactically, there is nothing a runner can do that a disciplined phenomenal midfielder like Xavi, Zidane, Modric, or Scholes can't do.

If you are confused, just look at Juventus and you'll understand why.

-Lord

Na absolute shit u yan like dis oh bros....have u wat he'd messi b4....?messi is d greatest dribbler ever....Nd wat surprises me d most is DAT he's been doing it for a lon long time....who told u Cruyff wasn't a dribbler? Wat was his name again....THE DUTCH MAGICIAN.....ND TO imagine u comparing van basten to henry....u must b in drugs....vam basten stopped his football becos of too many injuries....he retired at 28 after winning d golden ball 3times ...Nd u de here de compare am with totti...no mk me vex dis Sunday sir....if not for injuries self basten for win more Dan 3 den....na him u de compare with totti?mtchew

LordAdam16:
Don't compare Cruyff and Messi at all.

Don't ever make that mistake in your life. Cruyff has no equal. Cruyff doesn't score as many goals nor does he dribble as much, but his intelligence is what makes him a legend. Pele, Maradonna, Messi, Ronaldinho play football with their feet, Cryuff plays with his head.

Comparing Van Basten to CR7 is heresy. Van Basten is in Henry, Figo, Raul, Totti's league. And this league is below the league of Di Stefano, Zidane, El Fenomeno (R9) etc...

CR7 is creating a league of his own. Before he came on the scene, everyone thought what it took to be a GOAT was flair, a respectable number of goals and an international trophy. Every player was judged by that metric. CR7 started out with flair, a respectable number of goals, and almost had his first international trophy in 2004 before he had even matured.

Then he revamped the rules.

What you need to be a GOAT now is to be a decider and results-getter, be at the top level for an insane amount of time, and break records like a broomstick.

-Lord

branham890:
ok

The guy is just a goal scorer that's all . No match presence , no key passes , no through pass , no dribbles and he is better than Messi the master of football ? Messi's performance in the Copa De Rey final is way better than Ronaldo's Champions League final performance - that's how good Messi is .

Have you guys forgotten that Messi won Champs in 2006 , 2009 , 2011 and 2015 with Barcelona?

Ronaldo is just matching Messi's four Champions League trophies at 32 . Interesting

Rapahel1116:
Na absolute shit u yan like dis oh bros....have u wat he'd messi b4....?messi is d greatest dribbler ever....Nd wat surprises me d most is DAT he's been doing it for a lon long time....who told u Cruyff wasn't a dribbler? Wat was his name again....THE DUTCH MAGICIAN.....ND TO imagine u comparing van basten to henry....u must b in drugs....vam basten stopped his football becos of too many injuries....he retired at 28 after winning d golden ball 3times ...Nd u de here de compare am with totti...no mk me vex dis Sunday sir....if not for injuries self basten for win more Dan 3 den....na him u de compare with totti?mtchew

The guy you quoted knows absolutely nothing about football. He is just a typical blind fan making comments on topics they no very little about.

U still de yan trash sha....na messi hater u b....I like s two guys....BT u Dr talk out of sentiments... See as u just comaore basten Nd totti...na den u know say I no get time to argue with u.....messi get free role for barca ...he plays everywhere bro....he falls so deep DAT sometimes he collects d ball from pique or bigsam...get DAT...days wat am saying....dis season Madrid had a better team...BT dt doesn't mean DAT ronaldo was better fan him dis season bro....messi WS d back bone of barca....without messi dis season barca would HV not challenged for anything.....

LordAdam16:
B lyk say u dey watch back of TV.

Messi play 7 and 11... So Messi go run for one wing all through the game and outrun players to cross. Guy take am easy with the lies.

Messi is a natural 10 and developed a phenomenal goal scoring technique which can make him play an 8 or 9. But his preferred position is a free-flowing player taking on the pressure of the opposition and making it easy for his teammates to find space. And that's why it appears like he can play all attacking and midfield positions.

Ronaldo is a natural 7/11. And like Messi, he developed a phenomenal goal scoring technique which can make him play an 8 or 9. Playing Ronaldo in the midfield is a waste of his abilities. But he'd play anywhere if asked to.

So if you are a coach, you'd rather have a Messi as DM than Ronaldo with his build?

What Ronaldo lacks in Midfield, Messi lacks in the wings.

But as Pele said, if he was a coach, he'd prefer to have a clinical finisher than a runner. Tactically, there is nothing a runner can do that a disciplined phenomenal midfielder like Xavi, Zidane, Modric, or Scholes can't do.

If you are confused, just look at Juventus and you'll understand why.

-Lord

SuperSuave:
I was just confident days before the game that Madrid will win simply because Ronaldo is a lucky player.

Why would u say that because juven are total failure.

9jakohai:
Messi: One world cup final.

Rinaldo: One world cup semi final.

No contest.

''almost'' does not kill a bird, they both did not win it. Use anoda tin judge them

JUST MY OWN THOUGHT
This season Madrid were much better than barca!! why? cause the midfield was not functioning as it suppose or as it ought to function
1. iniesta age
2. No xavi again

everyone can agree that Madrid now have a good, compact and strong mid fielders than barca, and if you were cr7 all you have to do is make yourself available and they would find you.

Now to barca, if messi should roam around the box 18 and wait for d ball from his team mate. The midfield would be in scrambles. Cuz iniesta can no longer dominate the midfield again like he use to.

so messi has to adjust his role to play the midfield role in other to dominate the other team, cux a team without a midfield is like a human without brain.(the midfield is d brain of the team).

And messi waiting in the box alongside Suarez won't make any sense as Suarez is already playing the number 9 role....

the era of xavi and iniesta is gone, so all the hard work is left for messi to do...like people say when messi plays bad most time barca lose in that particular match E.g the match against juventus cause he played not up to standard the team suffered and the little he could do was not converted by his team mates...

LordAdam16:
You are a LM10 fan, don't make absurd claims.

Messi is not better than Ronaldo. And I'm sick of the talent card or that he is more fun to watch.

All Messi does is glue the ball to his feet and run past players. That's all he does.

And if you want to talk about if that is the most entertaining thing in football. Then you didn't watch Ronaldinho play.

What Ronaldinho, Zizinho, Garrincha did with the ball, Pele, Maradona, and Messi can't fathom. Those people made football an art form.

Messi went to Barca at age 13 and trained at La Masia for at least 7 hours per day for 5 years before his debut. The only thing he has above Xavi and Iniesta is dribbling and goal scoring. In creativity, vision, passing, he is not at the same level as those two unsung heroes.

And that brings me to my main point, the game of football rewards goal scorers and achievers. That's how we measure the best players. Add a bit of skill, dribbling, or flair, and there's a straight ticket to the hall of fame.

If Messi wasn't scoring goals he wouldn't win a Ballon D'or. Ditto for Ronaldo.

Look at Barcelona's squad of 2009-2013? Replace Messi with any world class player from Neymar to Hazard to Dybala and they'd win the exact same number of trophies and Ballon D'ors that Messi won. If that same world class player played for Barcelona from 13 years of age, it'd be just as easy for the player.

In fact, this is the first time you'd be hearing this, but Barcelona didn't need Messi in that time period to win trophies. The proof is in the fact that between 2008 and 2013, the Spanish National Team was without doubt the best team in the world and won every tournament they participated in. Messi was not in that team, but the core of the team was Barcelona.

On the flip side, look at Ronaldo. When he was younger he was great at showboating but wasn't as clinical as he is now. Ronaldo started winning Ballon D'ors when he started achieving and he played in teams (sporting lisbon, manchester united, and real madrid) that were about critical, ruthless finishing than beautiful possession football and he adapted his game appropriately. Messi on the other hand played in a team that is about entertaining, possession football and that became his identity.

Ronaldo does not have to dribble 5 players to score a goal, because that is unnecessary in Madrid's team. In fact from Man U, Sir Alex had already weaned him of less flair and made him concentrate more on his clinical ability. Messi does not even have to dribble 5 players to score a goal, because the entire Barcelona team can pass a ball into the net. Spain won games and tournaments without a player running past multiple players to score or lay a pass.

But when you talk about Ronaldo's clinical ability, there is no word to describe it. The timing of his runs, positioning, goal scoring technique is all down to intelligence and being a smarter player overall. He knows he doesn't have to showboat, he has passed that stage. All his showboating won him 1 Ballon D'or and 1 champions league. His clinical ability and goal scoring got him 3 Ballon D'or's, 3 champions league, 1 Euro cup, and 5 consecutive UEFA golden boots. If you are Ronaldo, what would you do then, more showboating, or just honing your clinical ability and becoming the best finisher in the history of the sport?

There's Isco, Modric, Kroos, Casemiro to do all the passing, all he has to do is be part of the ruthless attack and finish where necessary or make an assist. Even when Barcelona was at their top form, he was outscoring Messi consistently scoring 50 goals per year since 2010, getting Real Madrid to the Semi Finals of the UEFA Champions league, and trailing Barcelona in the league. This was in a time of inconsistency in the Bernabeu (Perez sold Ozil and Di Maria in their prime) and this was without the Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets midfield (the best midfield post-2000) that Messi had.

Just look at the difference. Messi is out there running past Alavez players in a Copa Del Rey final, while Ronaldo is making himself available to make clinical finishes against the best defense of the season. Allegri said that even if they gave Barcelona an extra hour, they still wouldn't have found the back of the net. Ronaldo found it in 20 minutes. Found a second 40 minutes later. Look at his second goal yesterday. Modric did not even look before crossing the ball into the area, but Ronaldo anticipated the run and positioned himself to rattle the mighty BBC defense and slot past the goalkeeper legend, something the entire MSN couldn't do in 120 minutes.

Give me that versus Messi's run and I'll choose Ronaldo's clinical ability everyday.

As at 2012 in the peak of Messi's career on the back of an unbelievable Barcelona team, he had 4 Ballon D'ors to Ronaldo's 1. 3 Champions league to Ronaldo's 1. In 2012, the jury was out already that Messi was miles ahead because despite Ronaldo becoming an accomplished goal scorer and skillful player, he just wasn't getting the results that Messi got.

Fast forward 5 years and Ronaldo has won 3 of the last 4 champion's leagues, and is set to win 4 of the last 5 Ballon D'Ors, and is the top UEFA goal scorer for each of the last 5 years. This is at a time of his career when he should be declining.

The difference between Messi and Ronaldo is evident in this year's UEFA goal tally. Messi had 11 versus Ronaldo's 2 before the knockout stages. Yet Ronaldo outscored Messi. Give me that versus running past players, and I'd choose the former everyday. That's what makes Ronaldo the better player. He doesn't have a peak. He keeps outdoing himself because he doesn't have a competition.

Without Suarez and Xavi, Messi wouldn't have had the treble in '15. And since then it has been downhill for him and his team. And the future is even more bleak for him going forward as Iniesta withers off. I wouldn't write him off, but as long as Ronaldo keeps breaking records and redefining what it means to be the greatest player to have ever played the game, the accolades would keep coming his way.

Messi plays amazing football, but in modern football love goes to the top achievers and goal scorers. After all, goals earn points. Most of the love Messi gets right now is because of what he achieved in 2009-2013. All of the love Ronaldo gets right now is because of what he keeps achieving since 2007.

Notice how I did not even talk about international duty? Or about Ronaldo adapting and achieving phenomenal results in two different leagues?

So, as I said, you are an LM10 fan. Every CR7 fan knows why CR7 is better than Messi. That's the passage of rites to becoming a CR7 fan.

-Lord

thumbs up guy. I read your analysis from start to finish.

The guy surprise me wen he compare van basten with henry Nd totti....I was like...is he drunk or something.... Van basten and ronaldo are alike ...in so many ways bro....u know wen basten stop de play football....28yrs....Nd he win 3golden balls...28-31 na den football de sweet oh ....God punish DAT stupid defender wey carry am go injury .

Misterdhee1:
The guy you quoted knows absolutely nothing about football. He is just a typical blind fan making comments on topics they no very little about.

Secrets11:
So because CR7 won last night he has suddenly become better than Messi? We all. Watched both guys go head-to-head in their last El Classico and please remind me who came out tops? Messi of course dismantled real Madrid while CR7 was no where to be found. Juventus wasn't an opposition that could trouble Madrid so my brother no even compare both guys because Messi is the best amongst the two guys

And the same Barca played Juve and were flogged... Meanwhile Madrid came out top in their bout with the Barca-beating Juventus...

Misterdhee1:
Which dynamite winning record? You guys make it sound like United was a small team.. Even without Ronaldo, they have always been a force to reckon with in English football, up until recent years.. So, what do u have to say about a certain Suarez that scored more goals in his last season at Liverpool even with a weaker teammates?

spot on
everybody expects messi to leave barca to Sunderland to prove he is a better player.


IF NA U U GO DO AM??

LordAdam16:
You are a LM10 fan, don't make absurd claims.

Messi is not better than Ronaldo. And I'm sick of the talent card or that he is more fun to watch.

All Messi does is glue the ball to his feet and run past players. That's all he does.

And if you want to talk about if that is the most entertaining thing in football. Then you didn't watch Ronaldinho play.

What Ronaldinho, Zizinho, Garrincha did with the ball, Pele, Maradona, and Messi can't fathom. Those people made football an art form.

Messi went to Barca at age 13 and trained at La Masia for at least 7 hours per day for 5 years before his debut. The only thing he has above Xavi and Iniesta is dribbling and goal scoring. In creativity, vision, passing, he is not at the same level as those two unsung heroes.

And that brings me to my main point, the game of football rewards goal scorers and achievers. That's how we measure the best players. Add a bit of skill, dribbling, or flair, and there's a straight ticket to the hall of fame.

If Messi wasn't scoring goals he wouldn't win a Ballon D'or. Ditto for Ronaldo.

Look at Barcelona's squad of 2009-2013? Replace Messi with any world class player from Neymar to Hazard to Dybala and they'd win the exact same number of trophies and Ballon D'ors that Messi won. If that same world class player played for Barcelona from 13 years of age, it'd be just as easy for the player.

In fact, this is the first time you'd be hearing this, but Barcelona didn't need Messi in that time period to win trophies. The proof is in the fact that between 2008 and 2013, the Spanish National Team was without doubt the best team in the world and won every tournament they participated in. Messi was not in that team, but the core of the team was Barcelona.

On the flip side, look at Ronaldo. When he was younger he was great at showboating but wasn't as clinical as he is now. Ronaldo started winning Ballon D'ors when he started achieving and he played in teams (sporting lisbon, manchester united, and real madrid) that were about critical, ruthless finishing than beautiful possession football and he adapted his game appropriately. Messi on the other hand played in a team that is about entertaining, possession football and that became his identity.

Ronaldo does not have to dribble 5 players to score a goal, because that is unnecessary in Madrid's team. In fact from Man U, Sir Alex had already weaned him of less flair and made him concentrate more on his clinical ability. Messi does not even have to dribble 5 players to score a goal, because the entire Barcelona team can pass a ball into the net. Spain won games and tournaments without a player running past multiple players to score or lay a pass.

But when you talk about Ronaldo's clinical ability, there is no word to describe it. The timing of his runs, positioning, goal scoring technique is all down to intelligence and being a smarter player overall. He knows he doesn't have to showboat, he has passed that stage. All his showboating won him 1 Ballon D'or and 1 champions league. His clinical ability and goal scoring got him 3 Ballon D'or's, 3 champions league, 1 Euro cup, and 5 consecutive UEFA golden boots. If you are Ronaldo, what would you do then, more showboating, or just honing your clinical ability and becoming the best finisher in the history of the sport?

There's Isco, Modric, Kroos, Casemiro to do all the passing, all he has to do is be part of the ruthless attack and finish where necessary or make an assist. Even when Barcelona was at their top form, he was outscoring Messi consistently scoring 50 goals per year since 2010, getting Real Madrid to the Semi Finals of the UEFA Champions league, and trailing Barcelona in the league. This was in a time of inconsistency in the Bernabeu (Perez sold Ozil and Di Maria in their prime) and this was without the Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets midfield (the best midfield post-2000) that Messi had.

Just look at the difference. Messi is out there running past Alavez players in a Copa Del Rey final, while Ronaldo is making himself available to make clinical finishes against the best defense of the season. Allegri said that even if they gave Barcelona an extra hour, they still wouldn't have found the back of the net. Ronaldo found it in 20 minutes. Found a second 40 minutes later. Look at his second goal yesterday. Modric did not even look before crossing the ball into the area, but Ronaldo anticipated the run and positioned himself to rattle the mighty BBC defense and slot past the goalkeeper legend, something the entire MSN couldn't do in 120 minutes.

Give me that versus Messi's run and I'll choose Ronaldo's clinical ability everyday.

As at 2012 in the peak of Messi's career on the back of an unbelievable Barcelona team, he had 4 Ballon D'ors to Ronaldo's 1. 3 Champions league to Ronaldo's 1. In 2012, the jury was out already that Messi was miles ahead because despite Ronaldo becoming an accomplished goal scorer and skillful player, he just wasn't getting the results that Messi got.

Fast forward 5 years and Ronaldo has won 3 of the last 4 champion's leagues, and is set to win 4 of the last 5 Ballon D'Ors, and is the top UEFA goal scorer for each of the last 5 years. This is at a time of his career when he should be declining.

The difference between Messi and Ronaldo is evident in this year's UEFA goal tally. Messi had 11 versus Ronaldo's 2 before the knockout stages. Yet Ronaldo outscored Messi. Give me that versus running past players, and I'd choose the former everyday. That's what makes Ronaldo the better player. He doesn't have a peak. He keeps outdoing himself because he doesn't have a competition.

Without Suarez and Xavi, Messi wouldn't have had the treble in '15. And since then it has been downhill for him and his team. And the future is even more bleak for him going forward as Iniesta withers off. I wouldn't write him off, but as long as Ronaldo keeps breaking records and redefining what it means to be the greatest player to have ever played the game, the accolades would keep coming his way.

Messi plays amazing football, but in modern football love goes to the top achievers and goal scorers. After all, goals earn points. Most of the love Messi gets right now is because of what he achieved in 2009-2013. All of the love Ronaldo gets right now is because of what he keeps achieving since 2007.

Notice how I did not even talk about international duty? Or about Ronaldo adapting and achieving phenomenal results in two different leagues?

So, as I said, you are an LM10 fan. Every CR7 fan knows why CR7 is better than Messi. That's the passage of rites to becoming a CR7 fan.

-Lord

I am roolnaado and I approve this message.

Great analysis Lord

Rapahel1116:
Na absolute shit u yan like dis oh bros....have u wat he'd messi b4....?messi is d greatest dribbler ever....Nd wat surprises me d most is DAT he's been doing it for a lon long time....who told u Cruyff wasn't a dribbler? Wat was his name again....THE DUTCH MAGICIAN.....ND TO imagine u comparing van basten to henry....u must b in drugs....vam basten stopped his football becos of too many injuries....he retired at 28 after winning d golden ball 3times ...Nd u de here de compare am with totti...no mk me vex dis Sunday sir....if not for injuries self basten for win more Dan 3 den....na him u de compare with totti?mtchew

Where did I say Cryuff is not a dribbler. E b like say ur eye dey pain you. I said he doesn't dribble like Messi.

Messi is not the greatest dribbler ever because you didn't watch Pele, Garrincha, Heleno play. You can call him the best dribbler of his generation. But don't make blanket statements that are baseless.

Most terrific playmakers are called Magicians, it doesn't make them phenomenal dribblers to be in the league of Pele, Maradonna, and Messi. Zidane was called the FRENCH MAGICIAN. RONALDINHO same, RONALDO (Both R9 and R7).

Basten won Ballon D'ors in the years he did because the competition was not as phenomenal as when Henry, Totti et cetera played.

It's like saying Will Smith is not as good as Di Caprio because he hasn't won an Oscar.

What is the phenomenal thing that Basten did? He won a Euro, big deal! He won two european cups, yay! Morata has won 2 Champions leagues. Eder won a Euro.

Basten only had two Serie A golden boots in his entire career.

Stop talking about injuries. R9 had an amazing comeback despite having a career-knocking injury. Injuries are part of the game.

Learn to analyze properly.

-Lord

chucs:
Just say you like Ronaldo cuz for me,Messi is more talented...More like he was born to be a football genius...C Ronaldo has the talent no doubt,but he trained hard to get to where he is at the moment..Respect to the both though.

And the point to your prevaricative argument is?

Suarez performed as well but in comparison to Ronaldo's performance, CR7 performed better and this is why.

Ronaldo joined Man Utd in 2008 under Sir Alex Ferguson, he got the N07 Jersey straight away, Man Utd was performing already like you mentioned but remember Ferguson is a no nonsense manager and he will bench any non-performer.

There is a culture for top English team strikers (esp Man Utd, Chelsea) to perform and Ronaldo outperformed his expectation. When Ronaldo said to Ferguson i want to leave, it was a mutual understanding as Ferguson knew he couldn"t stop this guy.

Ronaldo arrived Madrid a superstar, he has improved tremendously ever since. I would say Ronaldo is a king of two countries.

Misterdhee1:
Which dynamite winning record? You guys make it sound like United was a small team.. Even without Ronaldo, they have always been a force to reckon with in English football, up until recent years.. So, what do u have to say about a certain Suarez that scored more goals in his last season at Liverpool even with a weaker teammates?

gurunlocker:
Ronaldo only converted himself to just a goal scorer, I am sure he won't be regarded as world best if he plays and have team burden like Messi.

Ronaldo just score, MESSI works, dribble and score. For four years now, you will see Ronaldo doesn't play as a winger again just to score because he believes scoring will earn him the world best award. That doesn't mean he is the best.

Just imagine MESSI doing same, staying inside box and waiting for pass to score, won't that be boring? 0

One thing I like about Ronaldo is the hardwork, nothing more.

One of the best analysis. Ronaldo will not score without anyplay passong ball to him. Messi can score because of his multuple skills. Ronaldo is just a lucky player because all his team mate cooperaye with him and passes ball to him. By the time one or two player refuse passing ball to him

Rightly said my bro....much love to Cr7 no homo......hala madrid

Rightly said my bro....much love to Cr7 no homo......hala madrid[color=#000099][/color]

Rightly said my bro....much love to Cr7 no homo......hala madrid[color=#990000][/color]

SirTee02:
these topic wouldn't have happened had higuain scored in the final of the World Cup like elder did for Portugal in Euro, the argument would have died since 2014 , unlucky messi

What of the two copa American finals against Chile? Messi lost to Germany in 2014 World Cup final, 2015 Copa America final and 2016 Confederated Copa America final. How could a talented footballer lose three finals in a row? Ronaldo lost Euro 2004 final and won 2016 final.

burberry89:
Yes Madrid had a better keeper, better defended and better forwards than BARCA under pep guardiola the only are barca was better is the midfield. Messi was like the only good forward BARCA had back then but Madrid has Ronaldo, benzema, higuain and a whole lot more

So the likes of eto, zlatan, Henry were not good abi

vickylincon:
no offense sir, when do you start watching ball... saying ronaldo can do all that amazed me. I doubt you watched him play in united

The way some people just lie down in their "dirty" rooms and comfortably type rubbish just amazes me. Imagine the guy saying Ronaldo cannot dribble. Did you remember that Ashley Cole clip we used to watch on our Java phones back in the days?

Glare247:
Messi can never marched d record of ronaldo,ronaldo achieved for his national team,may I knw what messi achieved with his country?ronaldo broke d record as d only player to have scored in 3 champions league final,bros forget beef,ds guy is awesome

guy shataap, ronaldo wa blyk infant for football most of he goals na tap in, but messi fit carry ball from mildfield score,

Secrets11:
So because CR7 won last night he has suddenly become better than Messi? We all. Watched both guys go head-to-head in their last El Classico and please remind me who came out tops? Messi of course dismantled real Madrid while CR7 was no where to be found. Juventus wasn't an opposition that could trouble Madrid so my brother no even compare both guys because Messi is the best amongst the two guys

messi was no where to be found in turin match too

Unarguably, CR7 is a soccer legend of all time. But, Messi is an icon of his generation.

teamsynergy:
that's funny.. so u saying ronaldo is not talented? its his constant training that made him what he is?... if you play ball, u would understand that there are some things that are very special and peculiar to some players. no matter the training, a goat cant bark
.you dig.?.. go and download ronaldo clips right from his first pro club and u wud realize the bundle of talent in him do same for messi as well...
finally, name one other player who is not talented but his hard work gave him so much glory.......

Good insight.

Disneylady:
Ronaldo is a great player no doubt and I like his consistency which was as a result of his hard work while Messi is a god and his is innate. Messi does not need much of hard work before he proves himself as the best. only if he has the kinda team mates Ronaldo has presently, Ronaldo won't be able to match him at all

Hahaha Argentina and Portugal which team is better? I think you'll go for Argentina, but Messi lost three consecutive finals from 2014 to 2016 and I don't think Ronaldm will lose three consecutive finals. He MUST perform a magic to make it.

Misterdhee1:
All this epistle simply don't align with reality.. You made baseless claims, and i doubt you even watch both of them play. Messi has had to drop to the midfield to suit Neymar and Suarez.. Since Xavi left, Messi has been Barca's backbone, both in assisting and scoring goals.. Ronaldo has always been a goal scorer. Yet Messi has had to take two responsibilities, and still battle with him in the number of goals scored each season. Ronaldo has even lost the pichichi two times in a row now even with the classy midfielders and full backs, in his team. Messi scored more than Ronaldo in all competition this season, even with a weaker midfield. So what exactly is your point?

Look at the nonsense you are saying on a public forum?

How did Barcelona win the treble in 2015?

Enrique switched style and made the game direct from Defense to Attack and bypassed the midfield unlike Guardiola that made everything about the midfield. Then Suarez was phenomenal. Totally deserved 2015 Ballon D'or instead of Messi.

Messi has for a long time played a free flowing role. Saying Messi is the backbone is an insult to Iniesta and Busquets.

And don't talk about classy teammates in Real Madrid. A team is a unit and the only two phenomenal units in recent Real Madrid's history were the Zidane galacticos and this 2014-present galacticos. The rest were just a bunch of expensive players running for 90 minutes without cohesion.

Even Zidane galacticos would have found it impossible to match Xavi's Barcelona. And that is the team that won Messi 4 of his 5 ballon d'ors.

So if you want to talk about anyone relying on players, it is Messi.

At least Messi knows now what Ronaldo was passing through in 2009-2012 when Ronaldo scored most of Real Madrid's goals and made lots of assists and it wasn't enough to rattle a Barcelona team that words could not describe.

If Messi was the overrated player you guys make him up to be, he wouldn't finish with only a copa del rey. He'd have single-handedly routed Juventus. He'd take the challenge and prove that Xavi+Iniesta+Busquets wasn't the reason for his earlier success.

Or do you think Messi wouldn't prefer to go back to 2012, play as a forward and score 90 plus goals in a season? Why is Messi furious that Barcelona didn't sign Bernando Silva? Mk e dribble score in every match and prove his mettle now?

When Messi relies on players, it is being smart. When Ronaldo relies on players, it is sign of inferiority. You lots can make as many excuses as you like. CR7 would keep dropping the numbers that make history.

Decades from now, people would remember CR7 brace vs Juventus more than they'd remember LM10 trademark dribble to score vs Alaves. That's how legends roll. Tesla was a genius, but Einstein is the legend.

-Lord