₦airaland Forum

DrGoodmanFather:
Your statement is a fallacy. No business will move to a place where there is no adequate security and good roads.

Here is Aba in pictures.

Zirah:
Is this a city? A town? A village? I am not understanding..

Maduawuchukwu:
Yeah. The Nigerian state cannot meet the needs of its different people. Experience so far has shown that the politics of a multicultural and multireligious country makes it impossible for the Nigerian government to be efficient and competent. Naija is the world's most federal country in terms of demographics and ethnic behaviour yet we operate a federalism weaker than that of India or Canada which is far more homogeneous than we are. How we wan take diversify economy?

ShaqFu:
I hope Nnamdi Kanu and his bunch of IpOb miscreants are not alien to facts. I wonder what they'll survive on given the stats above if their feeble dream of Biafra becomes a reality.

deomelo:
Do you know what determines where people ship to.? Market forces, return on investments, large consumer market and disposable income and if such elements exists in other parts of the country like your village where your own people don't even want to stay or do business in., Lagos ports wont even exist.


The government can not force or determining these factors, but business environment does.

Now, if you are sure and determined to have your own ports and have your business people do business in your villages instead of Lagos or the SW, then build your own ports and have your people move back to your villages to patronize them.

Now, on the logical and intelligent front.


Nearly all the investments entering Nigeria ends up in the SW from Lagos to Ogun and Oyo states based on certain key factors.

1. Access to market and raw materials

2. Access to large consumer base and buying power

3. Safety, security and protection of investments

4. Welcoming and conducive environment

5. Local infrastructure.


All the above factors exists in the SW and not in other parts of Nigeria so even with ports in the SE, they won't change the economic dynamics in the SE.

The SE is so mentally crippled and unable to do anything to change and turn things around simply because they have a FG dependent mentality, a situation where the society ignore their local leaders and elected officials who are not doing anything for them and focus largely on the FG as the alpha, omega and ultimate savior when in fact it should be the other way around.

While other states and governors are busy taking their hopes and future into their own hands by building their own infrastructures like airports, the so called powerful, smartest, richest and the most industrious SE can not do anything, they need the FG to brush their teeth for them, tie heir shoes for them and even spoon feed them.

The FG can not create any economic situation for you, your own governors have to formulate their own economic policies and strategies like other states have done or are doing.


Thinking and behaving like kids and invalids that must be carried like babies, spoon fed and babysit like problem and special needs children by the FG.


Ports are the least of your worries because you have other serious, social and communal factors to deal with.

GuyfawkesAB:
Small time you people will come again and tell us that igbos pay 60% of tax in Lagos. When you know that it is easier to tax paid jobs in the organized sectors.
While shop owners amd importers can evade tax easily by understating their business or not declaring their true earnings.


Make una dey reason well o.

Lagos is too exploitative against igbos.

Zirah:
Is this a city? A town? A village? I am not understanding..

citizenY:
Talking about ports, shippers/ importers determine where their cargo goes, carriers schedule vessels at agreed freight rates. Freight rates are charged based on distance,fuel consumption, port charges and risk factors, among others . Using Lagos ports could be attributed to inducement by way of volumes and availability of appropriate facilities. Security of vessel , cargo and crew determines scheduling. I honestly do not see revenue flight from Lagos for the foreseeable future and in any case this federal revenue .

IAs an aside, taking into consideration the foregoing, I have my reservations on any cargo movements on the Niger.

This thread , through mischief, is supposed to spur states lagging in IGR capture to sit up, for the overall good. Being wat we are, we have turned it into a kangaroo court.

Lloydfather:
This is why every Igbo men should believed that oil alone is not why Hausa & Yoruba is kicking against biafra. My brother I can clearly tell u that the land borders in those south west state was where their igr is coming from, who are those patronizing those borders ? The biafrans. The igr of Lagos is coming from no other place than import duties in fact import duties is contributing to 90% of Lagos igr, (both lands and sea borders). And who are those paying this duties? The biafrans. This is why the FG is discouraging any other sea port that will mount as challenge to Lagos port.

When they said biafra is landlocked this is what they mean, the land and sea borders is bringing more Igr than anything else and biafrans are the tools. Think my biafra brothers

ProWalker:
The Insurance business is firmly in the hands of the Yoruba.
The real Estate sector is almost 95% of the SW is in their grip
The inter SW transport (including Lagos) is almost 99% in their hands.
The downstream oil trading ( petrol stations) is almost 100% their
The stocks of the bluest of the blue chip companies is in there own.
The most capitalized bank and best performing bank in Nigeria is own by them
The ICT business is firmly in their grip.
They operates more than 2/3 of the port Terminal and shipping companies.
The list is endless.
The problem is that the Yorubas don't make noise unlike Igbos.

Now, tell me apart from trading in imported items, tell me the commercial areas Igbos are better.

Super1Star:
Stop talking like semi-illiterates.

Port Revenue goes to FG.

Are there no Ports in Onne Warri Koko etc

citizenY:
You are right. The lesson from this thread is that all administrations, federal, state and local governments must establish robust revenue generating mechanisms to harvest " low hanging fruits" .

Ultimately, a true federal arrangement is the panacea as the center has proved to be irresponsible in properly applying the "unintended " funds it is harvesting. Federating states should pay the center and not the other way. By so doing, everyone will be up and doing.

deomelo:
1. FG neglect and lack of attention is not limited to any state or region in Nigeria including Lagos

2. Many states with sensible and capable governors saw this anomaly and pulled up their sleeves to find meaningful solutions to their economic problems and challenges like doing economic summits for investments, building their own roads, bridges, airports and even seaports.

3. The SE has a different problem that no man can fix because this is a region where they've been thought to always point fingers, never do anything to better, always blame people outside their region for their misfortunes and incompetent governors and elected leaders all the way to the national level.

4. The SE has a FG dependency problem, they think and believe the FG is their only way to economic salvation and not the governors they pay to look out for them, they don't even talk about their governors or act as if they have governors, but they know everything about governors in other states, they even know more about Osun state than their own state and governors.

5. How do you justify siting around and pointing fingers that the FG is killing you economically because they did not build airport for you when other states are building or have built their own airports with their own money without the FG?

6. They want us to believe that they are the best in everything and they own everything from Lagos to Abuja, but poorer states are building their own everything and getting better IGR, but you the so called most industrious can not do anything, can not even join money together to build a common regional airport.

7. The problem in the SE is not only a credible and competent leadership problem, they have a can't do anything and a systemic, societal, cultural and communal problem, it's a society with leaders with no vision or foresight, leaders who are not proactive or able to formulate any great ideas to better their people, but they all do agree that the FG is their problem and only FG can solve their economic problem when in fact this is not true and the fact that poorer states without seaports or airports are doing better economically clearly shows that they are proffering solutions to their economic challenges so why can't the almighty SE do the same instead of a sick and weird co-dependency problem with the FG.

baridamben:
1) South-West: N404 Billion
2) South-South: N198 Billion
3) North-West: N69 Billion
4) North-Central: N54 Billion
5) South-East: N49 Billion
6) North-East: N29 Billion
.
Breakdown:
.
South-West
Lagos: 302,425,091,964
Ogun: 72,983,120,003
Oyo: 18,879,084,132
Osun: 8,884,756,040
Ondo: 8,684,406,573
Ekiti: 2,991,041,855

Total: 414,847,500,567
.
South-South
Rivers: 85,287,038,971
Delta: 44,057,915,472
Edo: 23,041,425,599
Akwaibom: 23,269,750,752
C/river: 14,776,808,331
Bayelsa: 7,905,458,280

Total: 198,338,397,405
.
North-Central
Kwara: 17,253,829,559
Kogi: 9,569,124,487
Benue: 9,556,495,064
Plateau: 9,191,372,277
Nassarawa: 3,402,616,062
Niger: 5,881,584,409
.
Total: 54,855,021,858
.
North-West:
Kano: 30,959,027,531
Kaduna: 17,051,864,537
Zamfara: 4,777,169,537
Sokoto: 4,545,765,527
Katsina: 5,545,900,833
Jigawa: 3,535,349,908
Kebbi: 3,132,343,261
.
Total: 69,547,421,134
.
South-East:
Enugu: 14,235,512,227
Abia: 12,694,839,539
Imo: 5,871,026,976
Ebonyi: 2,342,092,225
Anambra: 14,791,175,253
.
Total: 49,934,646,220
.
North-East
Bauchi: 8,677,265,878
Adamawa: 5,788,979,592
Gombe: 2,941,438,110
Yobe: 3,240,867,567
Borno: 2,675,723,063
Taraba: 5,895,538,974
.
Total: 29,219,813,184
.
Please note that economic activities in the north-east has suffered greatly from the war against Boko Haram. Another thing that is clear from this statistics is that every region in Nigeria depends on oil from the Niger Delta. It is not as if they can't work harder to survive without oil money, but if you compare what they're generating currently to what they're receiving in federation account allocation, then you would understand why they're so lazy.
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Another thing from the statistics is that the South-West is the only region in Nigeria that can survive right now no matter what happens in the oil industry. Funny enough, they're also the only region making the least noise and focusing completely on development. No wonder the economy of the country is controlled by individuals from that region.
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Another thing to point out from this statistics is that the south-east has no superiority claim over the north. It is pure wickedness for those who clamour for Biafra to watch the economy of that region suffer while they preach about what would've been if they had their pipe dream. Why have all those who are promising to make Biafra heaven on earth not coming up with those ideas to improve the IGR of the south-eastern states, so as to at least improve the living condition of the people living there? Look at Lagos, look at Ogun, look at Kano, look at Rivers State and the high IGR they all command... Igbos are one of the biggest contributors to those IGRs, not by force but by choice, and they do so by freely associating with people from those regions. But Ogun State alone generates more revenue than all the south-eastern states combined, which means that on the strength of this statistics, it is arguable that the Igbos do better by associating with other people, and will perform woefully by staying on their own.

mercyville:
So you still have chief Okudili in the evil forest picture.No wonder Onwubiko had to cry out.The Ozor chiefs are also not spared.You too might need a couple of agbo cups from our Yoruba brethren:Don't you think so,Sukueku?
Look at a couple of your escaped brothers downstairs here...

Maduawuchukwu:
This was the IGR figures in Nigeria as at 2014.

In that year, the South-East generated about 61.1 billion Naira in IGR while the South west minus Lagos generated 57.3 billion Naira. Are you now going to tell me that between 2014-2015 the economy of the south-east became very "unviable" and worse than that of the North-central and the North-west? Abeg leave trash for LAWMA. We all know how states treat IGR as far as their FAAC is okay for them.
Blue3k where are you? Come and comment.

TheArchangel:
and all those money are generated by only Yorubas, right
At least, I can boldly say without mincing words that the 49b from the SE was generated by IGBOS. Can you say same of SW and then other regions in Nigeria. Can you be bold enough to say that my people generated this amount without the help of non-indigenous people of the land.?

TheArchangel:
The excuse will continue to haunt Nigerians till they do the right thing.
Imagine having seaports concentrated on one axis and expect more income from the other axis. What hypocrisy. Why should every commodities needed by 180 million Nigerians be imported from Lagos-Ogun axis? Who made it so and who is benefiting most from it?? And he is here typing stale excuses. Smh.
You can't wriggle yourself out of the excuse cos you know deep down that it is the obvious facts. Get ONNE and calabar seaports working for now and see what will happen in 2 years.

TheArchangel:
and all those money are generated by only Yorubas, right
At least, I can boldly say without mincing words that the 49b from the SE was generated by IGBOS. Can you say same of SW and then other regions in Nigeria. Can you be bold enough to say that my people generated this amount without the help of non-indigenous people of the land.?

DonMekino:
So where is the money.... How have all the igr in all d zones helped the ppl... The future generations will make the past ethnic fights in Nigeria look like a child's play.... All u lots clapping for Igr have succeeded in enriching the political class and also built a wall between yourselves... Wat we need is good governance... Wat have u gained thou E-warrior Economy is hard and biting and all u ppl talk is IGR dat has not reflected any rise in standard of living... It onye shows that we both with ashes while living by the side of ocean

baridamben:
1) South-West: N404 Billion
2) South-South: N198 Billion
3) North-West: N69 Billion
4) North-Central: N54 Billion
5) South-East: N49 Billion
6) North-East: N29 Billion
.
Breakdown:
.
South-West
Lagos: 302,425,091,964
Ogun: 72,983,120,003
Oyo: 18,879,084,132
Osun: 8,884,756,040
Ondo: 8,684,406,573
Ekiti: 2,991,041,855

Total: 414,847,500,567
.
South-South
Rivers: 85,287,038,971
Delta: 44,057,915,472
Edo: 23,041,425,599
Akwaibom: 23,269,750,752
C/river: 14,776,808,331
Bayelsa: 7,905,458,280

Total: 198,338,397,405
.
North-Central
Kwara: 17,253,829,559
Kogi: 9,569,124,487
Benue: 9,556,495,064
Plateau: 9,191,372,277
Nassarawa: 3,402,616,062
Niger: 5,881,584,409
.
Total: 54,855,021,858
.
North-West:
Kano: 30,959,027,531
Kaduna: 17,051,864,537
Zamfara: 4,777,169,537
Sokoto: 4,545,765,527
Katsina: 5,545,900,833
Jigawa: 3,535,349,908
Kebbi: 3,132,343,261
.
Total: 69,547,421,134
.
South-East:
Enugu: 14,235,512,227
Abia: 12,694,839,539
Imo: 5,871,026,976
Ebonyi: 2,342,092,225
Anambra: 14,791,175,253
.
Total: 49,934,646,220
.
North-East
Bauchi: 8,677,265,878
Adamawa: 5,788,979,592
Gombe: 2,941,438,110
Yobe: 3,240,867,567
Borno: 2,675,723,063
Taraba: 5,895,538,974
.
Total: 29,219,813,184
.
Please note that economic activities in the north-east has suffered greatly from the war against Boko Haram. Another thing that is clear from this statistics is that every region in Nigeria depends on oil from the Niger Delta. It is not as if they can't work harder to survive without oil money, but if you compare what they're generating currently to what they're receiving in federation account allocation, then you would understand why they're so lazy.
.
Another thing from the statistics is that the South-West is the only region in Nigeria that can survive right now no matter what happens in the oil industry. Funny enough, they're also the only region making the least noise and focusing completely on development. No wonder the economy of the country is controlled by individuals from that region.
.
Another thing to point out from this statistics is that the south-east has no superiority claim over the north. It is pure wickedness for those who clamour for Biafra to watch the economy of that region suffer while they preach about what would've been if they had their pipe dream. Why have all those who are promising to make Biafra heaven on earth not coming up with those ideas to improve the IGR of the south-eastern states, so as to at least improve the living condition of the people living there? Look at Lagos, look at Ogun, look at Kano, look at Rivers State and the high IGR they all command... Igbos are one of the biggest contributors to those IGRs, not by force but by choice, and they do so by freely associating with people from those regions. But Ogun State alone generates more revenue than all the south-eastern states combined, which means that on the strength of this statistics, it is arguable that the Igbos do better by associating with other people, and will perform woefully by staying on their own.

reptile1:
When u have ur own mad brothers sh1ting everywhere in ur villages u wrongly assumed they are others

Funkybabee:
yes yes

TheArchangel:
and all those money are generated by only Yorubas, right
At least, I can boldly say without mincing words that the 49b from the SE was generated by IGBOS. Can you say same of SW and then other regions in Nigeria. Can you be bold enough to say that my people generated this amount without the help of non-indigenous people of the land.?