Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by Zirah: 10:40pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Is this a city? A town? A village? I am not understanding.. DrGoodmanFather:
Your statement is a fallacy. No business will move to a place where there is no adequate security and good roads.
Here is Aba in pictures.
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Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by shukuokukobambi: 10:43pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Zirah: Is this a city? A town? A village? I am not understanding..
Its the industrial capital of the African Jewish empire 9 Likes |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by citizenY(m): 10:43pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Maduawuchukwu:
Yeah. The Nigerian state cannot meet the needs of its different people. Experience so far has shown that the politics of a multicultural and multireligious country makes it impossible for the Nigerian government to be efficient and competent. Naija is the world's most federal country in terms of demographics and ethnic behaviour yet we operate a federalism weaker than that of India or Canada which is far more homogeneous than we are. How we wan take diversify economy? You are right. The lesson from this thread is that all administrations, federal, state and local governments must establish robust revenue generating mechanisms to harvest " low hanging fruits" . Ultimately, a true federal arrangement is the panacea as the center has proved to be irresponsible in properly applying the "unintended " funds it is harvesting. Federating states should pay the center and not the other way. By so doing, everyone will be up and doing. 4 Likes |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by humberjade: 10:52pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
ShaqFu: I hope Nnamdi Kanu and his bunch of IpOb miscreants are not alien to facts. I wonder what they'll survive on given the stats above if their feeble dream of Biafra becomes a reality. Main reason why they are trying hard to make sure South-South joins their succession campaign by fire by force. 5 Likes |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by remikunle: 11:34pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
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Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by citizenY(m): 11:40pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
deomelo:
Do you know what determines where people ship to.? Market forces, return on investments, large consumer market and disposable income and if such elements exists in other parts of the country like your village where your own people don't even want to stay or do business in., Lagos ports wont even exist.
The government can not force or determining these factors, but business environment does.
Now, if you are sure and determined to have your own ports and have your business people do business in your villages instead of Lagos or the SW, then build your own ports and have your people move back to your villages to patronize them.
Now, on the logical and intelligent front.
Nearly all the investments entering Nigeria ends up in the SW from Lagos to Ogun and Oyo states based on certain key factors.
1. Access to market and raw materials
2. Access to large consumer base and buying power
3. Safety, security and protection of investments
4. Welcoming and conducive environment
5. Local infrastructure.
All the above factors exists in the SW and not in other parts of Nigeria so even with ports in the SE, they won't change the economic dynamics in the SE.
The SE is so mentally crippled and unable to do anything to change and turn things around simply because they have a FG dependent mentality, a situation where the society ignore their local leaders and elected officials who are not doing anything for them and focus largely on the FG as the alpha, omega and ultimate savior when in fact it should be the other way around.
While other states and governors are busy taking their hopes and future into their own hands by building their own infrastructures like airports, the so called powerful, smartest, richest and the most industrious SE can not do anything, they need the FG to brush their teeth for them, tie heir shoes for them and even spoon feed them.
The FG can not create any economic situation for you, your own governors have to formulate their own economic policies and strategies like other states have done or are doing.
Thinking and behaving like kids and invalids that must be carried like babies, spoon fed and babysit like problem and special needs children by the FG.
Ports are the least of your worries because you have other serious, social and communal factors to deal with.
Talking about ports, shippers/ importers determine where their cargo goes, carriers schedule vessels at agreed freight rates. Freight rates are charged based on distance,fuel consumption, port charges and risk factors, among others . Using Lagos ports could be attributed to inducement by way of volumes and availability of appropriate facilities. Security of vessel , cargo and crew determines scheduling. I honestly do not see revenue flight from Lagos for the foreseeable future and in any case this federal revenue . IAs an aside, taking into consideration the foregoing, I have my reservations on any cargo movements on the Niger. This thread , through mischief, is supposed to spur states lagging in IGR capture to sit up, for the overall good. Being wat we are, we have turned it into a kangaroo court. 5 Likes |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by AK481(m): 11:41pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
GuyfawkesAB: Small time you people will come again and tell us that igbos pay 60% of tax in Lagos. When you know that it is easier to tax paid jobs in the organized sectors. While shop owners amd importers can evade tax easily by understating their business or not declaring their true earnings.
Make una dey reason well o.
Lagos is too exploitative against igbos.
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Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by DrGoodmanFather: 12:06am On Jun 06, 2017 |
Zirah: Is this a city? A town? A village? I am not understanding..
This is Aba city. 2 Likes |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by totit: 12:24am On Jun 06, 2017 |
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Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by deomelo: 12:27am On Jun 06, 2017 |
citizenY:
Talking about ports, shippers/ importers determine where their cargo goes, carriers schedule vessels at agreed freight rates. Freight rates are charged based on distance,fuel consumption, port charges and risk factors, among others . Using Lagos ports could be attributed to inducement by way of volumes and availability of appropriate facilities. Security of vessel , cargo and crew determines scheduling. I honestly do not see revenue flight from Lagos for the foreseeable future and in any case this federal revenue .
IAs an aside, taking into consideration the foregoing, I have my reservations on any cargo movements on the Niger.
This thread , through mischief, is supposed to spur states lagging in IGR capture to sit up, for the overall good. Being wat we are, we have turned it into a kangaroo court.
1. FG neglect and lack of attention is not limited to any state or region in Nigeria including Lagos 2. Many states with sensible and capable governors saw this anomaly and pulled up their sleeves to find meaningful solutions to their economic problems and challenges like doing economic summits for investments, building their own roads, bridges, airports and even seaports. 3. The SE has a different problem that no man can fix because this is a region where they've been thought to always point fingers, never do anything to better, always blame people outside their region for their misfortunes and incompetent governors and elected leaders all the way to the national level. 4. The SE has a FG dependency problem, they think and believe the FG is their only way to economic salvation and not the governors they pay to look out for them, they don't even talk about their governors or act as if they have governors, but they know everything about governors in other states, they even know more about Osun state than their own state and governors. 5. How do you justify siting around and pointing fingers that the FG is killing you economically because they did not build airport for you when other states are building or have built their own airports with their own money without the FG? 6. They want us to believe that they are the best in everything and they own everything from Lagos to Abuja, but poorer states are building their own everything and getting better IGR, but you the so called most industrious can not do anything, can not even join money together to build a common regional airport. 7. The problem in the SE is not only a credible and competent leadership problem, they have a can't do anything and a systemic, societal, cultural and communal problem, it's a society with leaders with no vision or foresight, leaders who are not proactive or able to formulate any great ideas to better their people, but they all do agree that the FG is their problem and only FG can solve their economic problem when in fact this is not true and the fact that poorer states without seaports or airports are doing better economically clearly shows that they are proffering solutions to their economic challenges so why can't the almighty SE do the same instead of a sick and weird co-dependency problem with the FG. 15 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by laudate: 12:47am On Jun 06, 2017 |
Lloydfather: This is why every Igbo men should believed that oil alone is not why Hausa & Yoruba is kicking against biafra. My brother I can clearly tell u that the land borders in those south west state was where their igr is coming from, who are those patronizing those borders ? The biafrans. The igr of Lagos is coming from no other place than import duties in fact import duties is contributing to 90% of Lagos igr, (both lands and sea borders). And who are those paying this duties? The biafrans. This is why the FG is discouraging any other sea port that will mount as challenge to Lagos port.
When they said biafra is landlocked this is what they mean, the land and sea borders is bringing more Igr than anything else and biafrans are the tools. Think my biafra brothers Maka gini? What did you just say here? All taxes, import duties and customs charges collected at land and sea borders goes directly to the Federal Govt's purse. It does not go to any state govt. 7 Likes |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by laudate: 12:51am On Jun 06, 2017 |
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Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by alanka(f): 12:52am On Jun 06, 2017 |
This is nothing but inequality in factors of production and uneven distribution of resources.
Yet! It is not right to distributes what belongs to A to B, C and D |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by laudate: 12:55am On Jun 06, 2017 |
Super1Star: Stop talking like semi-illiterates.
Port Revenue goes to FG.
Are there no Ports in Onne Warri Koko etc You dey mind dem? Even Calabar has a sea port, too. Just like Port-Harcourt. If you add Bonny LNG Port Terminal to the mix, (ok, I know that one is dedicated to LNG's gas export operations), you would see that their argument really does not hold water..... 6 Likes |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by Maduawuchukwu(m): 5:08am On Jun 06, 2017 |
citizenY:
You are right. The lesson from this thread is that all administrations, federal, state and local governments must establish robust revenue generating mechanisms to harvest " low hanging fruits" .
Ultimately, a true federal arrangement is the panacea as the center has proved to be irresponsible in properly applying the "unintended " funds it is harvesting. Federating states should pay the center and not the other way. By so doing, everyone will be up and doing. That's true. |
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Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by GuyfawkesAB(m): 6:14am On Jun 06, 2017 |
Mum like you. With no valid point to argue your position, you chose to edit my post to suit your fantasy.
Eranko!
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Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by Nobody: 6:44am On Jun 06, 2017 |
A Biafra that cannot maximize availability of numerous wealths that abound in Nigeria will certainly be the poorest state in Africa, and certainly in the world, when they are boxed up in the land locked region. 2 Likes |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by SilentHaulers: 6:51am On Jun 06, 2017 |
deomelo:
1. FG neglect and lack of attention is not limited to any state or region in Nigeria including Lagos
2. Many states with sensible and capable governors saw this anomaly and pulled up their sleeves to find meaningful solutions to their economic problems and challenges like doing economic summits for investments, building their own roads, bridges, airports and even seaports.
3. The SE has a different problem that no man can fix because this is a region where they've been thought to always point fingers, never do anything to better, always blame people outside their region for their misfortunes and incompetent governors and elected leaders all the way to the national level.
4. The SE has a FG dependency problem, they think and believe the FG is their only way to economic salvation and not the governors they pay to look out for them, they don't even talk about their governors or act as if they have governors, but they know everything about governors in other states, they even know more about Osun state than their own state and governors.
5. How do you justify siting around and pointing fingers that the FG is killing you economically because they did not build airport for you when other states are building or have built their own airports with their own money without the FG?
6. They want us to believe that they are the best in everything and they own everything from Lagos to Abuja, but poorer states are building their own everything and getting better IGR, but you the so called most industrious can not do anything, can not even join money together to build a common regional airport.
7. The problem in the SE is not only a credible and competent leadership problem, they have a can't do anything and a systemic, societal, cultural and communal problem, it's a society with leaders with no vision or foresight, leaders who are not proactive or able to formulate any great ideas to better their people, but they all do agree that the FG is their problem and only FG can solve their economic problem when in fact this is not true and the fact that poorer states without seaports or airports are doing better economically clearly shows that they are proffering solutions to their economic challenges so why can't the almighty SE do the same instead of a sick and weird co-dependency problem with the FG.
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Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by tk4rd: 6:55am On Jun 06, 2017 |
baridamben: 1) South-West: N404 Billion 2) South-South: N198 Billion 3) North-West: N69 Billion 4) North-Central: N54 Billion 5) South-East: N49 Billion 6) North-East: N29 Billion . Breakdown: . South-West Lagos: 302,425,091,964 Ogun: 72,983,120,003 Oyo: 18,879,084,132 Osun: 8,884,756,040 Ondo: 8,684,406,573 Ekiti: 2,991,041,855
Total: 414,847,500,567 . South-South Rivers: 85,287,038,971 Delta: 44,057,915,472 Edo: 23,041,425,599 Akwaibom: 23,269,750,752 C/river: 14,776,808,331 Bayelsa: 7,905,458,280
Total: 198,338,397,405 . North-Central Kwara: 17,253,829,559 Kogi: 9,569,124,487 Benue: 9,556,495,064 Plateau: 9,191,372,277 Nassarawa: 3,402,616,062 Niger: 5,881,584,409 . Total: 54,855,021,858 . North-West: Kano: 30,959,027,531 Kaduna: 17,051,864,537 Zamfara: 4,777,169,537 Sokoto: 4,545,765,527 Katsina: 5,545,900,833 Jigawa: 3,535,349,908 Kebbi: 3,132,343,261 . Total: 69,547,421,134 . South-East: Enugu: 14,235,512,227 Abia: 12,694,839,539 Imo: 5,871,026,976 Ebonyi: 2,342,092,225 Anambra: 14,791,175,253 . Total: 49,934,646,220 . North-East Bauchi: 8,677,265,878 Adamawa: 5,788,979,592 Gombe: 2,941,438,110 Yobe: 3,240,867,567 Borno: 2,675,723,063 Taraba: 5,895,538,974 . Total: 29,219,813,184 . Please note that economic activities in the north-east has suffered greatly from the war against Boko Haram. Another thing that is clear from this statistics is that every region in Nigeria depends on oil from the Niger Delta. It is not as if they can't work harder to survive without oil money, but if you compare what they're generating currently to what they're receiving in federation account allocation, then you would understand why they're so lazy. . Another thing from the statistics is that the South-West is the only region in Nigeria that can survive right now no matter what happens in the oil industry. Funny enough, they're also the only region making the least noise and focusing completely on development. No wonder the economy of the country is controlled by individuals from that region. . Another thing to point out from this statistics is that the south-east has no superiority claim over the north. It is pure wickedness for those who clamour for Biafra to watch the economy of that region suffer while they preach about what would've been if they had their pipe dream. Why have all those who are promising to make Biafra heaven on earth not coming up with those ideas to improve the IGR of the south-eastern states, so as to at least improve the living condition of the people living there? Look at Lagos, look at Ogun, look at Kano, look at Rivers State and the high IGR they all command... Igbos are one of the biggest contributors to those IGRs, not by force but by choice, and they do so by freely associating with people from those regions. But Ogun State alone generates more revenue than all the south-eastern states combined, which means that on the strength of this statistics, it is arguable that the Igbos do better by associating with other people, and will perform woefully by staying on their own. Let Biafra go... If they die, let it be on their heads.. Stop feeling for Biafra. 1 Like |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by reptile1: 7:33am On Jun 06, 2017 |
mercyville:
So you still have chief Okudili in the evil forest picture.No wonder Onwubiko had to cry out.The Ozor chiefs are also not spared.You too might need a couple of agbo cups from our Yoruba brethren:Don't you think so,Sukueku? Look at a couple of your escaped brothers downstairs here... When u have ur own mad brothers sh1ting everywhere in ur villages u wrongly assumed they are others |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by Nobody: 7:57am On Jun 06, 2017 |
Maduawuchukwu: This was the IGR figures in Nigeria as at 2014.
In that year, the South-East generated about 61.1 billion Naira in IGR while the South west minus Lagos generated 57.3 billion Naira. Are you now going to tell me that between 2014-2015 the economy of the south-east became very "unviable" and worse than that of the North-central and the North-west? Abeg leave trash for LAWMA. We all know how states treat IGR as far as their FAAC is okay for them. Blue3k where are you? Come and comment. It is dumb to always exclude Lagos from South west, where is Lagos located south west, Lagos being your nightmare and even night terrors will always be deployed against you guys. Now flip it this way, Let it be Lagos vs the whole of south east, you can add south south, you will still realise we are not mate. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by Phobia1: 9:40am On Jun 06, 2017 |
TheArchangel: and all those money are generated by only Yorubas, right At least, I can boldly say without mincing words that the 49b from the SE was generated by IGBOS. Can you say same of SW and then other regions in Nigeria. Can you be bold enough to say that my people generated this amount without the help of non-indigenous people of the land.? Are you saying we don't have Yoruba traders in igboland? Cmon I have been there so well that I know we do OK Kay. so stop all this nonsensical facts. 4 Likes |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by Phobia1: 9:41am On Jun 06, 2017 |
TheArchangel: The excuse will continue to haunt Nigerians till they do the right thing. Imagine having seaports concentrated on one axis and expect more income from the other axis. What hypocrisy. Why should every commodities needed by 180 million Nigerians be imported from Lagos-Ogun axis? Who made it so and who is benefiting most from it?? And he is here typing stale excuses. Smh. You can't wriggle yourself out of the excuse cos you know deep down that it is the obvious facts. Get ONNE and calabar seaports working for now and see what will happen in 2 years. but "our oyel" is also concentrated on one axis Na. abi...? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by Bigcake: 9:43am On Jun 06, 2017 |
TheArchangel: and all those money are generated by only Yorubas, right At least, I can boldly say without mincing words that the 49b from the SE was generated by IGBOS. Can you say same of SW and then other regions in Nigeria. Can you be bold enough to say that my people generated this amount without the help of non-indigenous people of the land.? Why cant your people stay in their land and generate their own money.... why chose to develop another man's land? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by obaaderemi: 5:15am On Jun 07, 2017 |
DonMekino: So where is the money.... How have all the igr in all d zones helped the ppl... The future generations will make the past ethnic fights in Nigeria look like a child's play.... All u lots clapping for Igr have succeeded in enriching the political class and also built a wall between yourselves... Wat we need is good governance... Wat have u gained thou E-warrior Economy is hard and biting and all u ppl talk is IGR dat has not reflected any rise in standard of living... It onye shows that we both with ashes while living by the side of ocean They forget that the masses face similar challenges of neglect by the Nigerian state wether Ibo,Yoruba,hausa,etc. |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by Dicksonokeke(m): 5:30am On Jun 07, 2017 |
baridamben: 1) South-West: N404 Billion 2) South-South: N198 Billion 3) North-West: N69 Billion 4) North-Central: N54 Billion 5) South-East: N49 Billion 6) North-East: N29 Billion . Breakdown: . South-West Lagos: 302,425,091,964 Ogun: 72,983,120,003 Oyo: 18,879,084,132 Osun: 8,884,756,040 Ondo: 8,684,406,573 Ekiti: 2,991,041,855
Total: 414,847,500,567 . South-South Rivers: 85,287,038,971 Delta: 44,057,915,472 Edo: 23,041,425,599 Akwaibom: 23,269,750,752 C/river: 14,776,808,331 Bayelsa: 7,905,458,280
Total: 198,338,397,405 . North-Central Kwara: 17,253,829,559 Kogi: 9,569,124,487 Benue: 9,556,495,064 Plateau: 9,191,372,277 Nassarawa: 3,402,616,062 Niger: 5,881,584,409 . Total: 54,855,021,858 . North-West: Kano: 30,959,027,531 Kaduna: 17,051,864,537 Zamfara: 4,777,169,537 Sokoto: 4,545,765,527 Katsina: 5,545,900,833 Jigawa: 3,535,349,908 Kebbi: 3,132,343,261 . Total: 69,547,421,134 . South-East: Enugu: 14,235,512,227 Abia: 12,694,839,539 Imo: 5,871,026,976 Ebonyi: 2,342,092,225 Anambra: 14,791,175,253 . Total: 49,934,646,220 . North-East Bauchi: 8,677,265,878 Adamawa: 5,788,979,592 Gombe: 2,941,438,110 Yobe: 3,240,867,567 Borno: 2,675,723,063 Taraba: 5,895,538,974 . Total: 29,219,813,184 . Please note that economic activities in the north-east has suffered greatly from the war against Boko Haram. Another thing that is clear from this statistics is that every region in Nigeria depends on oil from the Niger Delta. It is not as if they can't work harder to survive without oil money, but if you compare what they're generating currently to what they're receiving in federation account allocation, then you would understand why they're so lazy. . Another thing from the statistics is that the South-West is the only region in Nigeria that can survive right now no matter what happens in the oil industry. Funny enough, they're also the only region making the least noise and focusing completely on development. No wonder the economy of the country is controlled by individuals from that region. . Another thing to point out from this statistics is that the south-east has no superiority claim over the north. It is pure wickedness for those who clamour for Biafra to watch the economy of that region suffer while they preach about what would've been if they had their pipe dream. Why have all those who are promising to make Biafra heaven on earth not coming up with those ideas to improve the IGR of the south-eastern states, so as to at least improve the living condition of the people living there? Look at Lagos, look at Ogun, look at Kano, look at Rivers State and the high IGR they all command... Igbos are one of the biggest contributors to those IGRs, not by force but by choice, and they do so by freely associating with people from those regions. But Ogun State alone generates more revenue than all the south-eastern states combined, which means that on the strength of this statistics, it is arguable that the Igbos do better by associating with other people, and will perform woefully by staying on their own. I hate you with passion cos all I see is tribal hatred and bigotry. Why didn't you indicate that south east has the least state (5)? God punish you to your 7th generation. |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by bornaking(m): 6:41am On Jun 07, 2017 |
any thread at all you guys believe it has to do with Ibos and yorubas. You guys are just bunch of noise makers. that is the reason Hausa and fulanis will always dominate you people. There are almost a 100 ethnic groups in this country if not more. still you people will not allow people to hear word with anything that concerns the country. Instead of you people to simply see it as a medium to propagate areas of responsibility and evaluate progress, you end up bashing yourselves. NONSENSE! |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by orisa37: 7:48am On Jun 07, 2017 |
Very good. Decentralise Registered and Incorporated Businesses, Paralstatals and FG stakes to where they are located. MTN, Airtel, Etisalat etc should pay service charges and taxes to Resident State Governments. |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by mercyville: 1:03pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
reptile1:
When u have ur own mad brothers sh1ting everywhere in ur villages u wrongly assumed they are others Your brother downstairs says... So you have not thrown away this your family photo album,Shukueku.From left to right: Shukueku...your very self,Shukueye,Shukuologbo,Shukumalu,Shukumerije,ShukuperempeHow is Okudiri,your dad?Tell him that ,Shukuenu says Haw! |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by fm4real2k6(m): 7:03pm On Jun 09, 2017 |
Funkybabee:
yes yes
Oh good one.
I grew up in Osogbo. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 2016 Internally Generated Revenue By Geopolitical Region by bomak(m): 5:02am On Jun 19, 2017 |
TheArchangel: and all those money are generated by only Yorubas, right At least, I can boldly say without mincing words that the 49b from the SE was generated by IGBOS. Can you say same of SW and then other regions in Nigeria. Can you be bold enough to say that my people generated this amount without the help of non-indigenous people of the land.? Does it really matter who generates the morning? Don't you think the Yoruba people deserve some respect for allowing foreigners to peacefully invest in their lands? What if it's only Igbo that are generating it for the SW? On whose name is the IGR recorded and will continue to be recorded? 1 Like |