calaway:


what I know is in the hadith is:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest]
is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to claim that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is
not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did ). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is

doyinbaby:
It is wrong for Christians to allow Muslims pray inside..the church.......loving unbelievers does not include opening a Church for unbeliever to practice their religion inside

calaway:


where was your voice when the killers of the innocent Igbo female trader in KANO we released and the case murder case against them struck out cos they killed her in the name of allah... so long as your people gets the upper hand you want peace and love.

ochukwuma15:


No, it's not wrong. The church is meant for both Saints, believers and non believers.

Besides, don't forget that they are praying in the church, they are not having se.x or acting porn.

I'm a Catholic, and I have prayed inside mosque on three occasions. There is this mountain of fire and miracles church very close to my house, while going to work in the morning, I will branch inside it sometimes, do the sign of the cross and pray to my God.

I didn't know that someone was observing until one day a young lady came to our office to clarify on an issue. She asked of me and said that her father said that she can trust me.

Guess who her father is, the pastor of the mountain of fire church.

IhatesIGBOS:
The pastor of that church is very sick in the brain.Why will you allow it when muslim hate christian?.
why

calaway:


what I know is in the hadith is:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest]
is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to claim that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is
not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did ). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is

Eluwilussit:
It all depends on where this happened. In the west? Very possible.

emynicedgreat:
for your perforated brain?
Afonjas the great tribal warriors

jaydee87:
calaway I have read thru all your responses on this thread and am now convinced that you are a religious extremist and sentimental in ur points you speak like students from seminary. one of your statement is wrong, there is a church in saudi-arabia likewise a mosque is isreal. am sorry if u feel offended. promote peace not hatred.

jaydee87:
promote peace not hatred and mind you they are not my people

IhatesIGBOS:
The pastor of that church is very sick in the brain.Why will you allow it when muslim hate christian?.
why

doskie:
you are funny.
you know we all could bring and quote funny killer statements too from the bible too? and you have trouble defining it as a sanctimonous book as you seek to present

doyinbaby:
It is wrong for Christians to allow Muslims pray inside..the church.......loving unbelievers does not include opening a Church for unbeliever to practice their religion inside

calaway:

of course Christianity is easy going... but Islam will never allow for any other religion to desecrate its place of worship with its religious activities..in fact the culprits will be mobbed at the least

calaway:


In the Christian new testament Bible on which Christianity is founded there is only love even for your enemies....

1. Luke 6:27-32 “But I say to you who are listening, love your enemies. Do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who are cruel to you . If anyone slaps you on one cheek, offer him the other cheek , too. If someone takes your coat, do not stop him from taking your shirt. Give to everyone who asks you, and when someone takes something that is yours, don’t ask for it back. Do to others what you would want them to do to you . If you love only the people who love you, what praise should you get? Even sinners love the people who love them.

2. Matthew 5:41-48 And if one of the occupation troops forces you to carry his pack one mile, carry it two miles. When someone asks you for something, give it to him; when someone wants to borrow something, lend it to him. “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your friends, hate your enemies.’ But now I tell you: love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may become the children of your Father in heaven. For he makes his sun to shine on bad and good people alike, and gives rain to those who do good and to those who do evil. Why should God reward you if you love only the people who love you? Even the tax collectors do that! And if you speak only to your friends, have you done anything out of the ordinary? Even the pagans do that! You must be perfect—just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

No killer or kill verses in the Holy Bible.

This is the marked difference between both religions.

doyinbaby:
It is wrong for Christians to allow Muslims pray inside..the church.......loving unbelievers does not include opening a Church for unbeliever to practice their religion inside

IhatesIGBOS:
The pastor of that church is very sick in the brain.Why will you allow it when muslim hate christian?.
why

NwaAmaikpe:

The pastor of that church is a disgrace to Christianity..


They just defiled the sanctuary of God..


Even Jesus Christ used koboko to drive infidels from the church.

calaway:


the word for the scenario u just described is called "tolerant"

again I ask ...what is your argument?

mbhs139:


Your initial post was aimed at painting the Muslims as being intolerant. So, my argument is that the fact that the church allowed Muslims to use their Hall for prayer, and the Muslims, I know, won't allow such to happen in their worship house, in the mosque to be precise, does not make them intolerant.

In order words, please note that the tenets and practice of the Muslims do not give room for them to allow any other religious activities other than that of the Muslims to take place in the mosque. Note, we aren't talking about Hall and Mosque

But if the Muslims have a Hall, I think they can as well give it to the church for use, and I have good instances:

Go to the Lekki Central Mosque in Lagos, they have a Hall, and I think a programme, not entirely Christian like though, has taken place in that Hall. In addition, the University of Lagos also has a Hall, but I wouldn't know if they would rent it out for a Christian programme. But I'm sure if it were to be a wedding, be it Christian or otherwise, they would allow.

In conclusion, the point here is that kudos to the church for allowing the Muslims use their Hall for prayer. Note, it is their Hall, not the church. And the Muslims, who wouldn't allow other religious activities to take place in their Mosque, does not mean they are intolerant.

AminuRano87:
yes i am a muslim, but i agree with you muslims will never allow such. christianity is the actual religion of peace not islam.

mbhs139:

No, not at all. But if the Christians allow it, thanks to them.

TheLordIsGr8:


Liar or ignoramus? You have to pick one

Bimpe29:


Let me not pick any, both are exclusively for you.