₦airaland Forum

xcolanto:
Senators I have no idea how you guys missed the killing of over 150 pro Biafran peaceful protesters in various cities around Nigeria for demanding their right to self determination and the ability to control and govern their God given people and resources as provided in the U.N and African charter on human rights.

That's because biafrans are of no significant good to the Americans.

[b][/b]WHAT a shame to nigeria. A simple A-29 light figter g jet we biafrans can produce 4rm our backyards is been refused nigeria. Thats gud news

Ballmer:
That's because biafrans are of no significant good to the Americans.

And the afonja ewedu sipping brown roofers in ile Ife that were slaughter by almajiris are useful to them?

If not for want of leadership and focus, shouldn't we be talking about building our very own fighter jets by now?

Well, let them go to China, they won't judge you... Wetin concern China and human rights?

u guys are complaining that no southerner is heading security agencies in Nigeria, well you all made it so. when you voted a tribal bigot called buhari as a the president, what did u all expect? like seriously.

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Pot callin kettle black, they did no 911 investigation despite the effort of the victim families now they said nigeria is anti human right. Who jets ep, where were ur jets on SEPTEMBER 11 2001?

tdayof:
The United States Air force has bombed civilians locations twice after the Nigerian incident. Dumb people
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-air-strike-mosul-200-civilians-killed-isis-northern-iraq-pentagon-central-command-islamic-state-a7651451.html
http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-mosul-civilians-airstrike-20170324-story.html
12 SUPER Tucano for $600M is too expensive when we can get 20J-10 at such price 25 JF17 or 16SU30.

FG should just channel the money into procuring better planes than those Tucanos.

Think clearly sir...mention one military institution in the world that hasn't claimed civilian casualty during time of crises. It's called collateral damage, which isn't the same in the Nigeria military world where weaponry has been used more to intimidate citizens and claim uncountable innocent lives. Why single out America alone when it comes to "bombing of civilian location" as you so put it ? Don't pretend to be unaware of the idiotic strategy employed by these terrorist Jihadi organizations which for a long time now, intentionally operate within civilian grounds not only to mask their activities but also to deter air attacks so folks round the world can scream "US is bombing unarmed civilian" while their lazy arses sit comfortably as they do nothing against those who threaten the little peace in a world that can know no true peace.

Nalikedis:
Russian risk is not worth taking. El-zakyzaky is an iranian stooge...and iran is Russia ally. I think Trump will sell to naija because he care more about terrorism than so called human right. The number of Americans killed daily with guns are more than the number of syrians killed at the same time. Black americans are perpetually afraid of their police so I dont understand human right those senators are talking about. Saudis are bombing in yemen and some believe they are sponsoring terrorism...same with Qatar yet US sell weapon to them... Hypocrites. Time to stop taking orders from this people. ICJ have only tried Africans, time for Africans to pull out of it. Amnesty international only report African coutries... Nothing on Arabs and war torn mid east...time to get the imperalist out of our shore. Africa should develop her own laws and and stop being ordered around by these demagogs

First step is to become self sufficient. You can't take handouts (foreign aid) and show ineptitude for basic development. Electricity, vaccine, production and economic planning shouldn't mystery. The only reason they boss Nigeria around is because they aren't that important.

ChristineC:
you want to make jets in the same country where you can't guarantee even 6hrs power supply daily?

Did you miss part I said long term.

They know that naija would use it against Biafra. They playing chess here.

dallyemmy:
If we are serious and forget about our excessive ethnic and religious restiveness in this country, Nigeria can make weapons and sell to other nations. Enough of looking at these oyinbos as gods. We need to stop being intellectually lazy! Enough of running after them like mumu...wetin den swear for us sef?

Jungleland is yet to achieve stable electricity supply throughout the nation, good reliable and pliable roads can be counted, human security is zilch and you, supposedly a reasoning humanoid believes the way to go is to invest billions of funds into the creation of facilities where weapons to take human lives will be manufactured while thousands are going to die of hunger today as I type. Do you know how much now is the smallest paint bucket of Garri (the least expensive food a poor man can get) ?

Agumbankembu:
Even one bullet, US no go sell, go to Russia and buy, they need ur money.

U make sense Bro

Meanwhile the same U.S just signed a deal of over 100 billion dollars to supply Saudi Arabia arms despite the fact that Saudi Arabia is the number one financier of Islamic Terrorists and 9 of the 13 or so September 11 terrorists were of Saudi origin.

They have destabilised the entire Middle East and are trying to place a travel ban on nations that pose no threat to them nor have the nationals of those nations carried out any attacks on U.S soil. They hate Iran yet Iran is the leader in the fight against Isis and Sunni radicals in the region.

They speak on human rights when Saudi Arabia has the highest human rights violation in the world especially against women.


The Nigerian Government needs to realign with other nations like Pakistan, China and Russia and get our weapons from them. Bleep the U.S.. Nothing good ever comes from those demons.

dallyemmy:
LET US BUILD OUR OWN FIGHTER JETS. LOOK AT NORTH KOREA IT'S GRADUALLY BECOMING A WORLD POWER!

DEN NOR GET TWO HEADS ABEG

The will to "do our own thing", is not there N. Korea has cultural independence(maybe to an extreme); they do not import their Gods.

Out of the abundance of the heart a man speaks and as a man thinks so he is. My brother if you can think differently, proffer solutions, act accordingly and stop complaining then things can change for the better. I hate victim mindset.

ghostofsparta:
Jungleland is yet to achieve stable electricity supply throughout the nation, good reliable and pliable roads can be counted, human security is zilch and you, supposedly a reasoning humanoid believes the way to go is to invest billions of funds into the creation of facilities where weapons to take human lives will be manufactured while thousands are going to die of hunger today as I type. Do you know how much now is the smallest paint bucket of Garri (the least expensive food a poor man can get) ?

xcolanto:
Senators I have no idea how you guys missed the killing of over 150 pro Biafran peaceful protesters in various cities around Nigeria for demanding their right to self determination and the ability to control and govern their God given people and resources as provided in the U.N and African charter on human rights.

I'm surprised too. I don't know why foreigners are afraid to mention Biafra instead they will be going round the circle. I know this was as a pressure mounted by IPOB at the killings of unarmed Biafrans but they won't say it.

Nalikedis:
Russian risk is not worth taking. El-zakyzaky is an iranian stooge...and iran is Russia ally. I think Trump will sell to naija because he care more about terrorism than so called human right. The number of Americans killed daily with guns are more than the number of syrians killed at the same time. Black americans are perpetually afraid of their police so I dont understand human right those senators are talking about. Saudis are bombing in yemen and some believe they are sponsoring terrorism...same with Qatar yet US sell weapon to them... Hypocrites. Time to stop taking orders from this people. ICJ have only tried Africans, time for Africans to pull out of it. Amnesty international only report African coutries... Nothing on Arabs and war torn mid east...time to get the imperalist out of our shore. Africa should develop her own laws and and stop being ordered around by these demagogs

So that people like Mugabe, Nkirunziza & other despots can run amok? Yes, the so called imperialists are not perfect & have their selfish agenda but we Africans are the key architects of our present misfortunes. Call them hypocrites but they are far better than us in the management of their affairs. How many times do you hear a western leader carry out human right abuse on their own people? The white man doesn't steal his nation's commonwealth and stash it in Africa. How many times do you hear of a members of the american military beating an american civilian? If we are not wise or mature enough to conduct our business with a certain degree of justice, fairness & honesty, why get angry when other people who are your betters tell you what & what not you are supposed to do? Was it not Thomas sankara that said that the person that feeds you is the person that controls you? When we rely on the west for almost everything, why wouldn't they have the right to give us a list of dos & don'ts? When did China, south Korea, Malaysia start their journey to nationhood? Few years before we did. Look at them now & look at us in Africa. Japan that was devastated by the ravages of war & the Hiroshima, Nagasaki bombs in the 1940s has since risen from their ruins and become something to be respected meanwhile most countries in Africa are still contented with going cap in hand to beg from western powers & they think such assistance would come with no strings attached. I mourn mama africa. We have not started at all.

Danishguy:
Two US senators have written to the secretary of state not to sell fighter jets to Nigeria

- They claimed issue of human rights concern was a reason for this blockade

- Nigeria was accused of not following court orders in the detention of El-Zakzaky

The Nigerian government has suffered a setback in its fight against terrorism as the United States has been urged not to sell fighter jets to Nigeria over human rights concern.

Donald Trump-led administration had promised to sell 12 weaponised aircraft to Nigeria $600 million but this might have suffered a dip as senators Cory Booker and Rand Paul in a joint letter on Tuesday, June 8, said Nigeria must display concern for human rights first.

The duo in the letter to the US Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, cited the killing of Shi’ites by the army in early 2015 and the accidental bombing of an IDP camp as reasons why the aircrafts should not be sold to Nigeria.

They noted that although the country was facing Boko Haram insurgency, failure to comply with human rights directives shows the country should not be in custody of these fighter jets.

Read the letter below:

Dear Secretary Tillerson:

"We are writing to convey our concerns regarding reports that you intend to proceed with plans to sell A-29 Super Tucano light attack aircrafts, with mounted machine guns and related parts and logistical support, to help the Nigerian government combat Boko Haram. We request that before you approve this sale, you brief us on the steps Nigeria has taken to investigate and hold accountable those that have committed human rights abuses. We believe the security threats Nigeria is facing are very real but that a sale of this nature, and at this time, is ill-advised. Boko Haram – a 5,000 to 10,000 strong insurgent force with ties to the Islamic State – will not be defeated through expanded air power alone.

"Despite your comments that values will not impact national security policies, we believe proceeding without any clear indications of progress from the Nigerian government on the protection of human rights and enforcement of accountability would run contrary to our national security objectives.

"With proper training of pilots, the sale of more sophisticated aircraft could lead to more accurate targeting of insurgents by the Nigerian Air Force and potentially a reduction of civilian casualties. But there is evidence that the Nigerian military routinely flouts the laws of war and there remains an absence of adequate safeguards and accountability mechanisms. This means that the Tucano aircraft could be used in a manner inconsistent with international human rights and humanitarian law – and that ultimately helps to strengthen Boko Haram.

"Given that the Nigerian military still lacks the ability to mount a sophisticated counterinsurgency cooperation combining group and air assets, and the A-29 airframes will not be ready for delivery for at least another year at the earliest, we see no rush to complete the sale. Because this sale is an important point of leverage to encourage critical reforms necessary to defeat Boko Haram, we recommend that you require the Nigerian government to complete these steps before proceeding with the sale. Some of the important and specific benchmarks that would show progress include:

"Progress from the authorities in Abuja on the Kaduna government’s investigation into the December 2015 alleged massacre on Shiite Muslims in the northeastern town of Zaria, where at least 347 members of the Islamic Movement of Nigeria, a Shia Muslim group, were killed by army soldiers. Credible organizations found that the army’s attack was unjustified. An investigation launched by the local Kaduna government found the General Officer in command of the army to have authorized the massacre and recommended prosecution. Nearly a year after this report was published, there has been no follow-up from the federal government in Abuja. Authorities also failed to comply with a court order for the release of the movement’s leader, Ibraheem El Zakzaky, and his wife who remain in detention without charges since December 2015.

"Completion of the investigation into the January 2017 attack on a displaced persons camp in Rann, northeastern Nigeria, by the Nigerian Air Force, which killed at least 236 people and injured thousands more. The government was quick to acknowledge the attack, which officials said was an accident, and agreed to undertake an investigation but it has yet to be finalized and then made available to the public. Even if it was accidental, the Rann incident demonstrates the urgent need for safeguards and accountability.

"Progress on a fair investigation into the 2014 killing by the Nigerian security forces of over 600 people, on the heels of Boko Haram’s attack on Giwa army barracks. Hundreds of mostly unarmed detainees, including children, were killed in extrajudicial executions and likely buried in mass graves around the city.


"At the same time, there continues to be additional allegations of corruption, abuse, and misconduct throughout the Nigerian military. While some soldiers have been released or retired, there has yet to be any real or meaningful accountability for the systemic challenges that have plagued Nigeria’s security forces for decades. Without addressing these problems at an institutional level, reform is merely cosmetic and will only perpetuate longstanding patterns of abuse, which could serve as propaganda for Boko Haram and other insurgent groups seeking to discredit the Nigerian government.

"We are concerned that the decision to proceed with this sale will empower the government to backtrack even further on its commitments to human rights, accountability, and upholding international humanitarian law, which in turn could spur greater unrest and violence, particularly in the northeastern part of the country. Accordingly, we strongly urge you to reconsider your decision to sell A-29 Super Tucano light attack aircrafts to Nigeria without any meaningful reform or any clear safeguards in place. Instead we recommend you make clear to Abuja that the sale of these aircraft can proceed only if there is positive and measurable progress on reforming the security institutions.".


https://www.naij.com/1109091-us-senators-block-sale-fighter-jets-nigeria-human-rights-concern.html

i didnt read d whole story but i dont trust US

fineboynl:
Nigeria military has a lot more to do to prove to the world that they have evolved. the sudden interest to acquired those 12 jets is to kill civilians most especially IPOB. the country is too vulnerable at the moment and the military employment question have not been attended to. the Hausa Fulani are on the upper hand to wipe off the IBO. let call for a referendum. restructuring will not work we need to separate so that south can be diplomatic to Israel and north to whoever they want.

if we must tell ourselves the truth Africa countries doesn't need such high powerful jets because they are not fighting wars with each other and cannot fight war in this 21st century.

as the world power will always intervene in the case of war between Africa countries. if any Africans need fighter jets so badly then they should build it by themselves.


as for the boko haram it won't make any difference, boko haram is still killing people despite all the jet we already had.

not now when the country is already tense. I know Trump needs money but he shouldn't be carried away.

Those are not jets. They are propeller driven anti insurgency planes. The new jets are the j thunder series which is a done deal. These are pretty basic planes. Useful on air to ground targets because of their loiter capability but the newly acquired M series helicopters do an even better job.

Having said all this. I believe the dale will go ahead. Trump doesnt care a hoot for human rights. Read his speech in saudi arabia where he spoke about fighting terror wherever it resides. Does he look like someone who loves shiite muslims?

The sales are done deals. Three have already been delivered.

Danishguy:
Two US senators have written to the secretary of state not to sell fighter jets to Nigeria

- They claimed issue of human rights concern was a reason for this blockade

- Nigeria was accused of not following court orders in the detention of El-Zakzaky

The Nigerian government has suffered a setback in its fight against terrorism as the United States has been urged not to sell fighter jets to Nigeria over human rights concern.

Donald Trump-led administration had promised to sell 12 weaponised aircraft to Nigeria $600 million but this might have suffered a dip as senators Cory Booker and Rand Paul in a joint letter on Tuesday, June 8, said Nigeria must display concern for human rights first.

The duo in the letter to the US Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, cited the killing of Shi’ites by the army in early 2015 and the accidental bombing of an IDP camp as reasons why the aircrafts should not be sold to Nigeria.

They noted that although the country was facing Boko Haram insurgency, failure to comply with human rights directives shows the country should not be in custody of these fighter jets.

Read the letter below:

Dear Secretary Tillerson:

"We are writing to convey our concerns regarding reports that you intend to proceed with plans to sell A-29 Super Tucano light attack aircrafts, with mounted machine guns and related parts and logistical support, to help the Nigerian government combat Boko Haram. We request that before you approve this sale, you brief us on the steps Nigeria has taken to investigate and hold accountable those that have committed human rights abuses. We believe the security threats Nigeria is facing are very real but that a sale of this nature, and at this time, is ill-advised. Boko Haram – a 5,000 to 10,000 strong insurgent force with ties to the Islamic State – will not be defeated through expanded air power alone.

"Despite your comments that values will not impact national security policies, we believe proceeding without any clear indications of progress from the Nigerian government on the protection of human rights and enforcement of accountability would run contrary to our national security objectives.

"With proper training of pilots, the sale of more sophisticated aircraft could lead to more accurate targeting of insurgents by the Nigerian Air Force and potentially a reduction of civilian casualties. But there is evidence that the Nigerian military routinely flouts the laws of war and there remains an absence of adequate safeguards and accountability mechanisms. This means that the Tucano aircraft could be used in a manner inconsistent with international human rights and humanitarian law – and that ultimately helps to strengthen Boko Haram.

"Given that the Nigerian military still lacks the ability to mount a sophisticated counterinsurgency cooperation combining group and air assets, and the A-29 airframes will not be ready for delivery for at least another year at the earliest, we see no rush to complete the sale. Because this sale is an important point of leverage to encourage critical reforms necessary to defeat Boko Haram, we recommend that you require the Nigerian government to complete these steps before proceeding with the sale. Some of the important and specific benchmarks that would show progress include:

"Progress from the authorities in Abuja on the Kaduna government’s investigation into the December 2015 alleged massacre on Shiite Muslims in the northeastern town of Zaria, where at least 347 members of the Islamic Movement of Nigeria, a Shia Muslim group, were killed by army soldiers. Credible organizations found that the army’s attack was unjustified. An investigation launched by the local Kaduna government found the General Officer in command of the army to have authorized the massacre and recommended prosecution. Nearly a year after this report was published, there has been no follow-up from the federal government in Abuja. Authorities also failed to comply with a court order for the release of the movement’s leader, Ibraheem El Zakzaky, and his wife who remain in detention without charges since December 2015.

"Completion of the investigation into the January 2017 attack on a displaced persons camp in Rann, northeastern Nigeria, by the Nigerian Air Force, which killed at least 236 people and injured thousands more. The government was quick to acknowledge the attack, which officials said was an accident, and agreed to undertake an investigation but it has yet to be finalized and then made available to the public. Even if it was accidental, the Rann incident demonstrates the urgent need for safeguards and accountability.

"Progress on a fair investigation into the 2014 killing by the Nigerian security forces of over 600 people, on the heels of Boko Haram’s attack on Giwa army barracks. Hundreds of mostly unarmed detainees, including children, were killed in extrajudicial executions and likely buried in mass graves around the city.


"At the same time, there continues to be additional allegations of corruption, abuse, and misconduct throughout the Nigerian military. While some soldiers have been released or retired, there has yet to be any real or meaningful accountability for the systemic challenges that have plagued Nigeria’s security forces for decades. Without addressing these problems at an institutional level, reform is merely cosmetic and will only perpetuate longstanding patterns of abuse, which could serve as propaganda for Boko Haram and other insurgent groups seeking to discredit the Nigerian government.

"We are concerned that the decision to proceed with this sale will empower the government to backtrack even further on its commitments to human rights, accountability, and upholding international humanitarian law, which in turn could spur greater unrest and violence, particularly in the northeastern part of the country. Accordingly, we strongly urge you to reconsider your decision to sell A-29 Super Tucano light attack aircrafts to Nigeria without any meaningful reform or any clear safeguards in place. Instead we recommend you make clear to Abuja that the sale of these aircraft can proceed only if there is positive and measurable progress on reforming the security institutions.".


https://www.naij.com/1109091-us-senators-block-sale-fighter-jets-nigeria-human-rights-concern.html

Some miscreants from unholy wastelands were making mockery of IPOB telling them that Trump have disappointed them. These subhumans always make me laugh.

Zombies wont agree,carry una jet,we wld die with the resident evil dullard.

xcolanto:
And the afonja ewedu sipping brown roofers in ile Ife that were slaughter by almajiris are useful to them?

Both of you are representations of the reason(s) why we continue to remain backward. Nobody has patriotic or nationalistic interests at heart. Too much egoism, tribalism, regionalism & religious schisms run deep in our psyche. Until we all undergo emancipation of our minds, Nigeria would only get worse.

Topman0001:
I'm impressed with the findings of the American senators. Nice evidence, but we're no supposed to think one sided. Your'e talking human rights when insurgency has claimed several thousands of life and still claiming. If America refuse to sell, some other countries like china, Russia even Israel are ready to sell. There'll be proper management on the use of the weapon.

U claimed they killed Shiites islamic group, yes they are forming alliance at the time Nigeria is facing challenges of insurgency. Maybe u don't know that we have more Hausas in Nigeria army, but Sodiers are trained to protect the unity and security of the country. Our pledge says ".... To protect her unity and uphold her honour and glory, so help me God"

america will block Israel and European countries from selling

vantage001:
He can't. America is not Nigeria with dictators who can misbehave.

But they sell to Saudi Arabia

Shafiiimran99:
Pot callin kettle black, they did no 911 investigation despite the effort of the victim families now they said nigeria is anti human right. Who jets ep, where were ur jets on SEPTEMBER 11 2001?

Nearly all the 911 terrorists came form SA and SA's human rights violation is legendary. They behead their own people for the dumbest reasons and the same trump just closed a deal to sell and transfer over $150 billion worth of weapons to the same SA.


In America, it's all about interests and not any silly human rights excuses and rubbish they cry about.

kolafolabi:
Or Chinese Jets

either way sir the J10 is dope

xcolanto:
Senators I have no idea how you guys missed the killing of over 150 pro Biafran peaceful protesters in various cities around Nigeria for demanding their right to self determination and the ability to control and govern their God given people and resources as provided in the U.N and African charter on human rights.

They didn't miss it.

Igbo people have no lobbying group in Washington DC to push their agenda. They have multiple organizations and associations just for jamborees and massaging their own egos.

Only Hausa and Yoruba people have lobbyists in Washington which is why a US Secretary of State would fly to Nigeria to have meetings with emirs and Imams.

SIRmanjar:
GOOD! Ipob ad other groups shuld summit all the atrocities the army have bin commiting against innocent civilians. especially the flogging of a crippled man.

my brother you just spoke my mind, I luckily escaped soldier's (zombies) today in a traffic lock they almost bashed my car and they started raining insults on me, I was speech less because we all know the consequences of replying them a condescending response, this is not new to any bona fide Nigerian, am of the opinion that the government should institute an organization that will put an end to the perpetual infringement on human Rights in Nigeria this humiliation must stop before the hunter becomes the hunted, why should they kill or punish those they are paid to protect? just yesterday a soldier killed 4 people at command secondary school over a mundane thing.... lord have mercy

InvertedHammer:
They didn't miss it.

Igbo people have no lobbying group in Washington DC to push their agenda. They have multiple organizations and associations just for jamborees and massaging their own egos.

Only Hausa and Yoruba people have lobbyists in Washington which is why a US Secretary of State would fly to Nigeria to have meetings with emirs and Imams.

@ bolded that's quite a vauge and shallow statement to make. How did you come to this conclusion? Are you based in that states? Do you work in congress or your a US politician? Are you a lobbyist yourself?? If no to any of these questions then I think your quite little minded.

I agree name the lobbying groups.

InvertedHammer:
Only Hausa and Yoruba people have lobbyists in Washington which is why a US Secretary of State would fly to Nigeria to have meetings with emirs and Imams.

xcolanto:
@ bolded that's quite a vauge and shallow statement to make. How did you come to this conclusion? Are you based in that states? Do you work in congress or your a US politician? Are you a lobbyist yourself?? If no to any of these questions then I think your quite little minded.

the zoo are seriously targeting biafrans.....God bless Americans, God bless biafra and lastly don't forget to punish the zoo.