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See these holier than thou Crittens talking about human rights violations and what not, was it not their own solider Chelsea Manning that exposed their attrocities against human rights in a 700 page document with video evidences to Wikileaks of US military carrying out airstrikes against unarmed civilians in various countries overseas. They can shove their planes up their asses and ride to hell with it.
The more they delay with the sale of these aircrafts the upper hand bokoharam gets.
And by the way what kind of dumb military officials do we have in this country for Christ's sake. Is it only US we can buy weapons from? Russia is there ever, able and willing to sell aircrafts to Nigeria at a cheaper rate sef instead of those world war 2 relic planes US wanted to sell to us at an exorbitant rate.

Litmus:
US refusal to sell Nigeria the Military aircrafts required and indeed US efforts to prevent Nigeria acquiring those aircrafts​ elsewhere​ (probably explains why we don't turn to Russia and China more) has nothing to do with humanrights. There's a humaneterian crises of gigantic proportions building up in the NE. America the nation abides by the philosophy The Needs of the Many Outweighs the Needs of the Few. This mean that quite apart from the hypocrasy evident in US support and arming of humanrights violating Saudi Arabia and US history of indiscriminate bombing of civilians in the Middle East war theaters where America is involved, there is scope to sell Nigeria equipment Nigeria needs.

Reading your writing is war... what the fu..ck!

vengertime:
Buhari is a terrorist hiding in London. He should be killed and thrown to the pigs.

Only deranged and stupid people make such careless statements. I believe you are one of those brainless idiots who just have access to the internet.
If you do not like buhari's policies or style of government you have two choices either channel your grievances through the apporiate channels or better still leave the country. It is that simple.

The human rights abuse by military / security operatives is now so glaring that even other countries notices.. what a shame...

xcolanto:
@ bolded that's quite a vauge and shallow statement to make. How did you come to this conclusion? Are you based in that states? Do you work in congress or your a US politician? Are you a lobbyist yourself?? If no to any of these questions then I think your quite little minded.

I talk with certain level of confidence and certainty.

Go figure!

Feel free to quote me anywhere. I stand by my statement.

Ever heard of any igwe, WIC or Ohaneze leadership having meeting with any caucus of the US senate? Don't even get me started on IWA or CISA charade.

The Northern youth coalition issued a quit notice to people of SE in the North. Did you hear anything from World Igbo Congress? No. Because the two factions are busy fighting each other for authenticity while Igbo houses are about to be ignited. I have attended enough meetings and communicated with the so-called leaders to understand the limits of their influences.
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Nigerdeltaboi:
good news now let's get the Russian jets to hell with America

How dare the United States refuse to sell weapons to a country that kills its citizens? How dare they?

But they have arms deal with Saudis?
Hypocrisy

dumo1:
See these holier than thou Crittens talking about human rights violations and what not, was it not their own solider Chelsea Manning that exposed their attrocities against human rights in a 700 page document with video evidences to Wikileaks of US military carrying out airstrikes against unarmed civilians in various countries overseas. They can shove their planes up their asses and ride to hell with it.
The more they delay with the sale of these aircrafts the upper hand bokoharam gets.
And by the way what kind of dumb military officials do we have in this country for Christ's sake. Is it only US we can buy weapons from? Russia is there ever, able and willing to sell aircrafts to Nigeria at a cheaper rate sef instead of those world war 2 relic planes US wanted to sell to us at an exorbitant rate.

How dare the Americans refuse to sell there weapons to a country that kills its own people? How dare they?

Chuknovski:
my brother you just spoke my mind, I luckily escaped soldier's (zombies) today in a traffic lock they almost bashed my car and they started raining insults on me, I was speech less because we all know the consequences of replying them a condescending response, this is not new to any bona fide Nigerian, am of the opinion that the government should institute an organization that will put an end to the perpetual infringement on human Rights in Nigeria this humiliation must stop before the hunter becomes the hunted, why should they kill or punish those they are paid to protect? just yesterday a soldier killed 4 people at command secondary school over a mundane thing.... lord have mercy

True dat

cococandy:
But they have arms deal with Saudis?
Hypocrisy

You do know that this are Senators expressing concern to the State dept right? And that the final authority pretty much resides with the President?

SuperSuave:
This is not a good news for the country's military but a good news on the other hand for book haram and other enemies of the Nation

It's also good news for the Nigerians that want to be treated with civility and want their rights respected by the government.

davidif:
How dare the United States refuse to sell weapons to a country that kills its citizens? How dare they?

abegi like say America na saint. American force have committed terrible war crimes so who dem be.

When it was Gej they had a say!! Pmb!! Chai...

Looking for jet to use assist north abi!?

deomelo:
Nearly all the 911 terrorists came form SA and SA's human rights violation is legendary. They behead their own people for the dumbest reasons and the same trump just closed a deal to sell and transfer over $150 billion worth of weapons to the same SA.


In America, it's all about interests and not any silly human rights excuses and rubbish they cry about.

What is ur evidence that 911 terrorist were from SA or muslims cos those alleged hijacker are alive after the attack

Danishguy:
Two US senators have written to the secretary of state not to sell fighter jets to Nigeria

- They claimed issue of human rights concern was a reason for this blockade

- Nigeria was accused of not following court orders in the detention of El-Zakzaky

The Nigerian government has suffered a setback in its fight against terrorism as the United States has been urged not to sell fighter jets to Nigeria over human rights concern.

Donald Trump-led administration had promised to sell 12 weaponised aircraft to Nigeria $600 million but this might have suffered a dip as senators Cory Booker and Rand Paul in a joint letter on Tuesday, June 8, said Nigeria must display concern for human rights first.

The duo in the letter to the US Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, cited the killing of Shi’ites by the army in early 2015 and the accidental bombing of an IDP camp as reasons why the aircrafts should not be sold to Nigeria.

They noted that although the country was facing Boko Haram insurgency, failure to comply with human rights directives shows the country should not be in custody of these fighter jets.

Read the letter below:

Dear Secretary Tillerson:

"We are writing to convey our concerns regarding reports that you intend to proceed with plans to sell A-29 Super Tucano light attack aircrafts, with mounted machine guns and related parts and logistical support, to help the Nigerian government combat Boko Haram. We request that before you approve this sale, you brief us on the steps Nigeria has taken to investigate and hold accountable those that have committed human rights abuses. We believe the security threats Nigeria is facing are very real but that a sale of this nature, and at this time, is ill-advised. Boko Haram – a 5,000 to 10,000 strong insurgent force with ties to the Islamic State – will not be defeated through expanded air power alone.

"Despite your comments that values will not impact national security policies, we believe proceeding without any clear indications of progress from the Nigerian government on the protection of human rights and enforcement of accountability would run contrary to our national security objectives.

"With proper training of pilots, the sale of more sophisticated aircraft could lead to more accurate targeting of insurgents by the Nigerian Air Force and potentially a reduction of civilian casualties. But there is evidence that the Nigerian military routinely flouts the laws of war and there remains an absence of adequate safeguards and accountability mechanisms. This means that the Tucano aircraft could be used in a manner inconsistent with international human rights and humanitarian law – and that ultimately helps to strengthen Boko Haram.

"Given that the Nigerian military still lacks the ability to mount a sophisticated counterinsurgency cooperation combining group and air assets, and the A-29 airframes will not be ready for delivery for at least another year at the earliest, we see no rush to complete the sale. Because this sale is an important point of leverage to encourage critical reforms necessary to defeat Boko Haram, we recommend that you require the Nigerian government to complete these steps before proceeding with the sale. Some of the important and specific benchmarks that would show progress include:

"Progress from the authorities in Abuja on the Kaduna government’s investigation into the December 2015 alleged massacre on Shiite Muslims in the northeastern town of Zaria, where at least 347 members of the Islamic Movement of Nigeria, a Shia Muslim group, were killed by army soldiers. Credible organizations found that the army’s attack was unjustified. An investigation launched by the local Kaduna government found the General Officer in command of the army to have authorized the massacre and recommended prosecution. Nearly a year after this report was published, there has been no follow-up from the federal government in Abuja. Authorities also failed to comply with a court order for the release of the movement’s leader, Ibraheem El Zakzaky, and his wife who remain in detention without charges since December 2015.

"Completion of the investigation into the January 2017 attack on a displaced persons camp in Rann, northeastern Nigeria, by the Nigerian Air Force, which killed at least 236 people and injured thousands more. The government was quick to acknowledge the attack, which officials said was an accident, and agreed to undertake an investigation but it has yet to be finalized and then made available to the public. Even if it was accidental, the Rann incident demonstrates the urgent need for safeguards and accountability.

"Progress on a fair investigation into the 2014 killing by the Nigerian security forces of over 600 people, on the heels of Boko Haram’s attack on Giwa army barracks. Hundreds of mostly unarmed detainees, including children, were killed in extrajudicial executions and likely buried in mass graves around the city.


"At the same time, there continues to be additional allegations of corruption, abuse, and misconduct throughout the Nigerian military. While some soldiers have been released or retired, there has yet to be any real or meaningful accountability for the systemic challenges that have plagued Nigeria’s security forces for decades. Without addressing these problems at an institutional level, reform is merely cosmetic and will only perpetuate longstanding patterns of abuse, which could serve as propaganda for Boko Haram and other insurgent groups seeking to discredit the Nigerian government.

"We are concerned that the decision to proceed with this sale will empower the government to backtrack even further on its commitments to human rights, accountability, and upholding international humanitarian law, which in turn could spur greater unrest and violence, particularly in the northeastern part of the country. Accordingly, we strongly urge you to reconsider your decision to sell A-29 Super Tucano light attack aircrafts to Nigeria without any meaningful reform or any clear safeguards in place. Instead we recommend you make clear to Abuja that the sale of these aircraft can proceed only if there is positive and measurable progress on reforming the security institutions.".


https://www.naij.com/1109091-us-senators-block-sale-fighter-jets-nigeria-human-rights-concern.html

utter rubbish ,totally rubbish.
When the last administration focused it's policies on the eastern bloc, many I'll informed individuals blew trumpets. Now we can see the reason why, minus, arse licking Egypt,Morocco and Tunisia no other country in Africa has received extended lethal air assets from the US (and they have a lengthy HR rap sheet) , check the lists , all countries have always looked towards the east for it's acquisitions minus SA.
We have been hounded right from 2010, insulted and embarrassed just take a look at this statement

"Given that the Nigerian military still lacks the ability to mount a sophisticated counterinsurgency cooperation combining group and air assets, and the A-29 airframes will not be ready for delivery for at least another year at the earliest, we see no rush to complete the sale. Because this sale is an important point of leverage to encourage critical reforms necessary to defeat Boko Haram, we recommend that you require the Nigerian government to complete these steps before proceeding with the sale. Some of the important and specific benchmarks that would show progress include:"

The most annoying is that all this is because of a turbo prop aircraft , this government has shown zero Foreign policy thrust besides voting against Palestine and galavanting around with the Islamic coalition and the saudis

Militarily what have we gain recently, nothing . The old arrangement by the last admin is what the NA ,NAF especially are still functioning on.

There is no way, I would discountenance all the atrocities of the NA especially in this admin the Shiites and IPOB but like the Roman adage says " I fight, i know not the reason why I do so", the buck rests at the table of this government (if they ever decide to get serious).

We had discussions on the Su-25,27 and thunder jets with Russia,Belarus and Oak, Lack of foresight stopped them all(except the thunders). When are we ever going to learn foreign diplomacy like the isrealies, form a congress of Nigerians in different countries and push for our interest .

No, no way Goddfrey Onyema is still praying for london.
Damn

komekn:
Excellent news.


These aircraft and over priced and not fit for purpose absolutely no need.

What when should be doing is increasing our capacity in general infrastructure not over priced and over stated airframes. With a very restricted mission delivery.

We have a massive trade deficit with Germany and a good relationship too.


We still have massive infrastructure gaps in equipment, communications and hardware with our ground forces.

The army still does not have a definite IFV and combatants are sitting ducks in those soft skinned pick up trucks and armed with antiquated AK47 without optic sights. Simply disgraceful.

you made lots of sense until your last paragraph.
You need to re-educate your self on what High Threat Zone is.
Goto the NE, you will find properly kitted soldiers for the threat available.

For you info the AK is still extremely capable clean or not, optical or iron sight!. Our troopers are marksmen with them ( visit them at a range).

As for IFV, we have BMP- 1 and the BVPs (though not sufficient enough) MRAPs and LAVs cover the rest.

The NA aight the same before

Nigerdeltaboi:
abegi like say America na saint. American force have committed terrible war crimes so who dem be.

Abeg get me ask that idiotic mumu.

irynterri:
America : injustice to one is injustice to all
Nigeria: if it is not my tribesman /imam/pastor/faction of Islam I don't and we get surprised why we are not moving forward,
in a sane society there ought to be media onslaught about this El Zakzaky issue,irony of it all is that the person under whose rule the injured old man is under detention is going to the ends of the earth trying to save his life and expecting a miracle from God..hmmm

It's unfortunate but true. We are terrible.

dallyemmy:
LET US BUILD OUR OWN FIGHTER JETS. LOOK AT NORTH KOREA IT'S GRADUALLY BECOMING A WORLD POWER!

DEN NOR GET TWO HEADS ABEG

When you don't have functional engineering schools and technical schools?

InvertedHammer:
I talk with certain level of confidence and certainty.

Go figure!

Feel free to quote me anywhere. I stand by my statement.

Ever heard of any igwe, WIC or Ohaneze leadership having meeting with any caucus of the US senate? Don't even get me started on IWA or CISA charade.

The Northern youth coalition issued a quit notice to people of SE in the North. Did you hear anything from World Igbo Congress? No. Because the two factions are busy fighting each other for authenticity while Igbo houses are about to be ignited. I have attended enough meetings and communicated with the so-called leaders to understand the limits of their influences.
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Tell us the lobby group and tell us when Rex Tillerson visited Emirs and Imam.


Your education is a Big Fail

InvertedHammer:
I talk with certain level of confidence and certainty.

Go figure!

Feel free to quote me anywhere. I stand by my statement.

Ever heard of any igwe, WIC or Ohaneze leadership having meeting with any caucus of the US senate? Don't even get me started on IWA or CISA charade.

The Northern youth coalition issued a quit notice to people of SE in the North. Did you hear anything from World Igbo Congress? No. Because the two factions are busy fighting each other for authenticity while Igbo houses are about to be ignited. I have attended enough meetings and communicated with the so-called leaders to understand the limits of their influences.
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Tell us the lobby group and tell us when Rex Tillerson visited Emirs and Imam.


Your education is a Big Fail.

DaudaAbu:
The same US that bombed chinese embassy and claimed its a mistake?
Despite the fact that they have the best trained pilots, and the plane is manufactured by them?

So they did not believe our own story that the iDP camp bombing was also a mistake?

Maybe the IDP camp bombing was a mistake. How about the other issues they raised, like the massacre of the Shiites? I'm sure you know that was not a mistake.

So what can we do about it? Fold our hands and do nothing?

poseidon12:
When you don't have functional engineering schools and technical schools?

dallyemmy:
Do we use the weapons against our citizens or terrorist?

Well, there are records of your soldiers using the imported weapons against unarmed Nigerian citizens.

poseidon12:
Well, there are records of your soldiers using the imported weapons against unarmed Nigerian citizens.

These people are worse

xcolanto:
Senators I have no idea how you guys missed the killing of over 150 pro Biafran peaceful protesters in various cities around Nigeria for demanding their right to self determination and the ability to control and govern their God given people and resources as provided in the U.N and African charter on human rights.

They did not miss anything it was the Abobaku gutter press that edited it.

SuperSuave:
This is not a good news for the country's military but a good news on the other hand for book haram and other enemies of the Nation

Obviously a zombie

not surprised

Exactly! These pilots should be trained

With friends like these, who needs enemies?