maclatunji:


You mean to see how erosion ravages the East and very few Governors are doing anything useful for the people. Anambra is showing some signs of progress though. Enugu and Imo will usually rely on past developmental efforts. Nothing revolutionary coming out yet.

How come Incidence of terrorism increased when Muslim are in fasting? Does it mean fasting gives rise to Islamic fundamentalist carrying out terrorist activities

EasternWind:
There's a thread here discussing Yorubas self-determination but u won't see them there. As always they keep going mad about people who're far better than them in all ramifications.

Yorubas should leave Biafrans alone and invest there wealth of wisdom in Oodua's republic. Ur treachery wisdom isn't needed by Biafrans.

Hahahahaahahahahaha, Yorubas played opposition politics for over a decade and did not make noise about secession. Is it now that a party with strong Yoruba base is at the centre that we will call for secession?

Stop displaying political naivety.

maclatunji:


Hahahahaahahahahaha, Yorubas played opposition politics for over a decade and did not make noise about secession. Is it now that a party with strong Yoruba base is at the centre that we will call for secession?

Stop displaying political naivety.

Hope you enjoyed the show of that Arabian idiot that slept with a six year old girl

it's funny how non of you has countered Maclatunji so far. I urge you@op not to be offended by their insults. it is a sign of defeat

maclatunji:


Hahahahaahahahahaha, Yorubas played opposition politics for over a decade and did not make noise about secession. Is it now that a party with strong Yoruba base is at the centre that we will call for secession?

Stop displaying political naivety.

If u shameless fellows begin to write the kind of epistles of "wisdom" (which in itself is empty) u wrote daily about Biafra or Igbos to the betterment of ur region, then the region would have been outstanding. But hell NO. All ur fooleries must be directed to us.
Now listen, Ogun,Ekiti, Osun & Ondo need this wisdom that's wasting away in u.
Who knows, maybe u earn a better living by writing them.

Must Yorubas be dumb and unable to monetize the valuables deposited in them by God while live in poverty? A mistake an Igbo man can't make.

Be guided

APCsupporter:
it's funny how non of you has countered Maclatunji so far. I urge you@op not to be offended by their insults. it is a sign of defeat

It is not today that I have been educating them and giving them intellectual beatdowns when necessary. I am used to their feeble tactics. They hardly ever learn but we just cannot help but teach.

You don't allow a suicidal man quench a bush fire with petrol in your neighbourhood.

EasternWind:
If u shameless fellows begin to write the kind of epistles of "wisdom" (which in itself is empty) u wrote daily about Biafra or Igbos to the betterment of ur region, then the region would have been outstanding. But hell NO. All ur fooleries must be directed to us.
Now listen, Ogun,Ekiti, Osun & Ondo need this wisdom that's wasting away in u.
Who knows, maybe u earn a better living by writing them.

Must Yorubas be dumb and unable to monetize the valuables deposited in them by God while live in poverty? A mistake an Igbo man can't make.

Be guided

Nna, that is already being addressed and it is part of development to ensure that you don't allow self-destructive neighbours to create crisis near you. We don't need to have to invest in fighting a war with any region of Nigeria.

Let's just cut through to the chase

maclatunji:
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Have they looked at the resources that accrue to them from the federation account and their internally generated revenue (IGR) from their states and found a way to use it to invest in their people and region wisely?

Have the north done this? Why is the North East not getting rebuilt with their IGR? Why did the fedral government invest and still invest in secondary education in the North. Where is the nothern IGR? Or is it only the SE that should depend on IGR while the rest feed fat on the fedral handouts?

Have they used cultural and commercial ties to build bridges with other tribes in Nigeria to attempt to creation of a synergy that protects their interests?

How many cultural and commercial ties have the north built with other regions? What about the south west? How many notherners and south westerners have commercial and cultural interests in other regions? Did their lack of affinity and open disdain of ther regions stop them from usurping power and benefiting unfairly from the federal structure? Which other ethnic group has more commercial and cultural ties across the board than the igbos?

Have they made a strategic investment in their human capital and developed leadership potential of their people such that the rest of Nigeria would have no choice than to defer to what would then be their obvious acumen and capacity to lead the entire country to great things?

Does the north match the south east in any type of human development indices? Has the north's backwardness in education ever hindered their access to power and privilege in the Nigeria project? What is the leadership development track record of the current northern leader of the union? Do the north have more professors and doctors than the south east? Why then is it that the north has provided many substantial heads of state since 1970, yet the more educated south easteners are yet to provide one?

Have they shown enough love within their ranks to develop a united front that amplifies their voice within Nigeria?

How united is the north? Does boko haram operate elsewhere? How about southern kaduna? How about the middle belt? When will the voice of the notherners start getting ignored by the Yorubas due to the much more ethnic and religious divisions and strife in the north? Or is it only in the south east that olatunji waits to be apeased with phantom unity which he does not even have in his zone? Does obasanjo agree with tinibu? Does tinibu agree with afenifere? Why is olatunji not focusing on that or writing legnthy epistles to demand for the supression of the yoruba voice due to their disunity?

The rest is mumbojumbo...

Nigeria is not Rwanda, and the South East is not Tutsi.

By the way, it's still too early to hype the post-genocidal-Rwanda as a political success story as opposed to Nigeria. Wait till 50 years.

KratosCorp:
Let's just caught through to the chase

See this guy, trying to use strawman tactics. You must be a learner.

maclatunji:


Nna, that is already being addressed and it is part of development to ensure that you don't allow self-destructive neighbours to create crisis near you. We don't need to have to invest in fighting a war with any region of Nigeria.

Listen, do more about ur region cos the ones already done haven't paid and there's no signs of them paying in nearest future. Ur states are among the most indebted and workers not paid. Work out modalities to dealing with this glaring realities first if u're not driven by hate to always write gibberish about Biafra and Igbo nation in name of unsolicited counsel.
A log is in ur eyes friend

I'm sure Yorubas aren't the ones that guided Biafrans to bounce back and overtook all Nigerians in virtually all sphere of life.

Yorubas should keep their treacherous counsels is not needed

Of course you are lost at the counter. It's obvious. You are just out to troll the igbos. That's your calling. Unfortunately you guys won't let others to post a comment on the islamic section unless he affirms islam. But here you are insultung a whole ethnic group and dishing out crapy opinions on a region you know nothing about let alone having visited.

maclatunji:


See this guy, trying to use strawman tactics. You must be a learner.

EasternWind:
Listen, do more about ur region cos the ones already done haven't paid and there's no signs of them paying in nearest future. Ur states are among the most indebted and workers not paid. Work out modalities to dealing with this glaring realities first if ur not driven by hate to always write gibberish about Biafra and Igbo nation in name of unsolicited counsel.
A log is in ur eyes friend

I'm sure Yorubas aren't the ones that guided Biafrans to bounce back and over take all Nigerians in virtually all sphere of life.

Yorubas should keep their treacherous counsels is not needed

Biafrans "overtook'' Nigeria and are still looking for secession (at least a noisy minority)?

Stop being paradoxical.

KratosCorp:
Of course you are lost at the counter. It's obvious. You are just out to troll the igbos. That's your calling. Unfortunately you guys won't let others to post a comment on the islamic section unless he affirms islam. But here you are insultung a whole ethnic group and dishing out crapy opinions on a region you know nothing about let alone having visited.

Wetin concern agbero with overload?

Rwandans have turned their story around in one generation, my friends from the Southeast are still whining after 2 generations. Biko, wisen-up.

Unfortunately the next ten genrations of folks from your region will see their free and progressive contemporaries from Biafra, and spitefully spit on the graves of folks from your present genration for being too selfish, irresponsible and short sighted to set the future generations free from the same national burden that placed limitation on the progress of your fathers.

maclatunji:


Wetin concern agbero with overload?

Rwandans have turned their story around in one generation, my friends from the Southeast are still whining after 2 generations. Biko, wisen-up.

maclatunji:


Biafrans "overtook'' Nigeria and are still looking for secession (at least a noisy minority)?

Stop being paradoxical.

Yeah, we did and I'm proud of it

Nigeria is simply limiting our prowess so need to take our destinies into our hands

Biafra remains the answer to Africa's civilization.

Have they looked at the resources that accrue to them from the federation account and their internally generated revenue (IGR) from their states and found a way to use it to invest in their people and region wisely?

They care about Osun state's money than their own. They even know more about Osun and Aregbeshola than their own governors.,.,

KratosCorp:
Unfortunately the next ten genrations of folks from your region will see their free and progressive contemporaries from Biafra, and spitefully spit on the graves of folks from your present genration for being too selfish, irresponsible and short sighted to set the future generations free from the same national burden that placed limitation on the progress of your fathers.

Part of the problem the Southeast has is poorly developed political culture and structure. You cannot compare the political sophistication of the Binis, Hausas and of course Yorubas with the East. For at least 500 years, other parts of Nigeria have had a strong state governing them even before the colonialists, this has sharpened our political skills and strategic reasoning.

Igbos have not had this and it reflects how you mismanage yourselves as a people.

If you disagree, point to a proper empire Igbos had

KratosCorp:
Let's just cut through to the chase

How many cultural and commercial ties have the north built with other regions? What about the south west? How many notherners and south westerners have commercial and cultural interests in other regions? Did their lack of affinity and open disdain of ther regions stop them from usurping power and benefiting unfairly from the federal structure? Which other ethnic group has more commercial and cultural ties across the board than the igbos?

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You are wrong.


We/SW have a whole lot in common with Hausa people culturally, intolerant ibo people from the SE.

The pictures above was taken just last month during the Lagos @ 50 cultural celebrations.

Hausa and Yoruba people showed up and put on huge cultural display, but ibo people refused to participate and they did not show face.

maclatunji:


Part of the problem the Southeast has is poorly developed political culture and structure. You cannot compare the political sophistication of the Binis, Hausas and of course Yorubas with the East. For at least 500 years, other parts of Nigeria have had a strong state governing them even before the colonialists, this has sharpened our political skills and strategic reasoning.

Igbos have not had this and it reflects how you mismanage yourselves as a people.

If you disagree, point to a proper empire Igbos had

Political skills so sharp and strategic reasoning so great. That poverty remains endemic, sanitation is poor, basic infrastructure is lacking, and etc etc.

Clearly the Japanese, Norwegians, and etc are the real fools that they passed up learning from the masters

The way some of you talk one would think there are regions in Nigeria that aren't part and parcel of the third world.

500 years of state governance but still can't master a basic municipal water sytem. Clap for you

A Trial will convince you

maclatunji:
Compare the strategic thinking of Paul Kagame in Rwanda by not rushing to make himself president in an heavily divided country to the mindless exultation of the Igbos when Goodluck Jonathan was president in Nigeria.

They encouraged the greatest theft of Nigeria's wealth without any clear benefit to their region. Now, they are screaming marginalization and playing victim.

This is not an attempt to denigrate Igbos, it is an attempt to place facts before you to help you think outside of the box and contribute your quota to nation building rather than sabotage which wins you very little trust or friends and you then complain you are not loved or wanted as a people.

I stop taking this post serious when I saw "GEJ greatest thief", what will you call the likes of Obj, IBB and Abacha? You voted for Bubu and that was a mistake accept it and stop insulting GEJ,he is gone for over two years now.

Ladi you are still running around NL finding justification for the excuse of a president you helped voted in.

I for one will never stand for secession. we are way too intertwined.. inter tribal marriages.. investments out of SE.. We risk a lot to lose. And pls nobody should tell me the bs about rebuilding from the scratch.. u don't know how painful it was to build outside in the first place when starting life was so difficult in the SE especially imo and abia..


Let's instead agitate strongly for restructuring.. and resource control.. let's also agitate against bad leadership.. For we from abia state carrying biafra for head... We know how the 2 orji useless our state especially the 1st one.. it baffles me we didn't start our agitation from their door steps

maclatunji:
The degree of sophistication that an individual or group exhibits in a situation or on an issue can be objectively assessed when compared to similar situations. Many people from the Southeast in Nigeria, mostly of the Igbo ethnic group want us to believe that right from the time of the civil war that started in 1967 and ended in 1970 they have been victims. In truth, they have failed to show how they have been especially marginalized above any other tribe or region in Nigeria. However, let us for the sake of this article assume without conceding that they have been marginalized and oppressed right from around 1966 when a counter coup brought General Yakubu Gowon to power.

The question is how have they helped themselves? Have they looked at the resources that accrue to them from the federation account and their internally generated revenue (IGR) from their states and found a way to use it to invest in their people and region wisely?

Have they used cultural and commercial ties to build bridges with other tribes in Nigeria to attempt to creation of a synergy that protects their interests?

Have they made a strategic investment in their human capital and developed leadership potential of their people such that the rest of Nigeria would have no choice than to defer to what would then be their obvious acumen and capacity to lead the entire country to great things?

Have they shown enough love within their ranks to develop a united front that amplifies their voice within Nigeria?

The reaction of Tutsis to the shocking and appalling genocide in Rwanda in 1994 shows us how a people determined to develop and make progress will do so regardless of what horrors they are put through. An estimated 500,000-1,000,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus were killed by extremist Hutus in 1994.

By July 1994, the Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF) led by Paul Kagame, a Tutsi had control of most of the country. It did not seek to take revenge on the Hutus and there was a speedy effort to provide some form of justice for the victims and reconciliation with those who had committed heinous crimes.

Despite having the military advantage, Kagame did not take power until 6 years after winning the civil war that ended the genocide, Pasteur Bizimungu a Hutu was President of Rwanda until 2000, when he resigned and Paul Kagame took official control of a country he had controlled unofficially since 1994.

He remains President of Rwanda and under his leadership, the country is achieving amazing growth, development and peace.

According to the World Economic Forum (WEF),

Rwanda notched up GDP growth of around 8% per year between 2001 and 2014. It’s economy is still growing, GDP grew by 6% in 2016 according to Africa Economic Outlook and it states: “Rwanda remains peaceful and stable and preparation for the August 2017 presidential elections have commenced, with the constitution amended to address presidential term limits.”

There are so many other positives from Rwanda like the inclusion of women in politics, the International Parliamentary Union (IPU) gives the the percentage of women in Rwanda’s parliament at 63.8% and the country is rapidly moving from an agrarian to knowledge economy. WEF explains: “In the long term, the government aims to transform Rwanda from a low-income agriculture-based economy to a knowledge-based, service-oriented economy with a middle-income status by 2020.”

I have taken the time to give these details to show how far Rwanda has come in contrast to Nigeria in general and the Southeast in particular where their is a victim mentality that is holding back development.

Enough of this whining already, until the Southeast begins to think fresh ideas and move away from its negative past, it may not develop. Until Nigeria as a whole does the same, it may never develop.

Source: http://www.opinions.ng/southeast-stop-claiming-marginalization/

cc: Lalasticlala, Mynd44

Make southeast six states and watch agitations disappear.

Ikology:


Make southeast six states and watch agitations disappear.

Look at the map of Nigeria, 5 states is too much for the Southeast already. Another state should be created from Cross River. Equity dictates that the Southeast gets fewer states because of its population and size. The map is there for any reasonable person to see.

Oildichotomy:
From the epistle reeled out, it is pretty obvious, the writer is among those village unexposed fellow who most definitely haven't left their enclaves.

They view everything from the religious angle, his apparent disdain for the succession is born out of the anti-islam tendencies showed by the Igbo and he feels serving them tit-for-tat will justify his convictions.

It is more psychological than factual, People should treat the OP as a psychiatric case than anything else.

Trying to present yourself as enlightened. However, you only succeeded in displaying intellectual deficiency. Not one fact in the article was disproved, you just want to attack the author.

It is safe to say that with thinking like yours, Biafra will remain a hoax. However, this hoax could cost millions of lives, that is why people like me are countering the ineffectual thinkers promoting it.

maclatunji:


You mean to see how erosion ravages the East and very few Governors are doing anything useful for the people. Anambra is showing some signs of progress though. Enugu and Imo will usually rely on past developmental efforts. Nothing revolutionary coming out yet.

I guess you haven't been to east that's why you posted this rubbish, east is far developed than your backward region west

maclatunji:


Look at the map of Nigeria, 5 states is too much for the Southeast already. Another state should be created from Cross River. Equity dictates that the Southeast gets fewer states because of its population and size. The map is there for any reasonable person to see.

It must not be created from southeast, it can come from parts of Delta or any where. Let the region be six state to ensure equal representation in federal appointments. The region has lesser federal reps, lesser ministers, lesser LG councils etc.

Ikology:


It must not be created from southeast, it can come from parts of Delta or any where. Let the region be six state to ensure equal representation in federal appointments. The region has lesser federal reps, lesser ministers, lesser LG councils etc.

They should create a state from the Nigerdelta and give it to the Southeast? Like seriously? There should not be equal representation where a group is a minority. That is not part of justice.

maclatunji:


They should create a state from the Nigerdelta and give it to the Southeast? Like seriously? There should not be equal representation where a group is a minority. That is not part of justice.

Most states are not homogeneous in tribe.

FKO81:

I guess you haven't been to east that's why you posted this rubbish, east is far developed than your backward region west

Umuahia and Akwa are 2 glorified towns that you call state capitals, Abakaliki? Brother please.

Ikology:


Most states are not homogeneous in tribe.

Cross River state at 20,156 km2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_River_State is approximately half the size of Igboland at 40,000 km2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igboland

You guys make a lot of noise for such a small set.

Essentially, Igboland could easily have been made up of just 2 states. Here you are making noise about having 6 states. When will you guys learn?