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Re: HOLINESS Is NOT "Optional!" by Nobody: 6:27pm On Jun 11, 2017
Well I believe there is no Holiness without Righteousness.
Then if the Bible says Jesus is our Righteousness then Jesus Christ is also our Holiness.

No human by his power can be Holy.
Re: HOLINESS Is NOT "Optional!" by oaroloye(op): 6:58pm On Jun 11, 2017
SHALOM!

opalu:
HOLINESS CLARIFIED IN SIMPLEST TERMS
Thank you for your contribution.

It is a good effort: not only did you THINK- you COMMUNICATED YOUR KNOWLEDGE, which, in turn, will help others to LEARN and GROW.

Your Exposition FAILS because of FALSE TEACHINGS we were all exposed to.

There are FOUR SPIRITUAL ENERGY CATEGORIES:

[color=silver].[/color]   REVELATION 22:11.

11. "He that is UNJUST,
let him be Unjust still:
and he which is FILTHY,
let him be Filthy still:
and he that is RIGHTEOUS,
let him be Righteous still:
and he that is HOLY,
let him be Holy still."


[color=silver].[/color]   MATTHEW 13:1-23.

THE same day went Jesus
out of the house,
and sat by the sea side.
2. And great multitudes
were gathered together unto him,
so that he went into a ship,
and sat;
and the whole multitude
stood on the shore.
3. And he spake many things unto them
in Parables,
Saying,

"Behold, a Sower
went forth to sow;

4. "And when he sowed,
some seeds fell
by the way side,
and the fowls came and devoured them up:

5. "Some fell upon stony places,
where they had not much earth:
and forthwith they sprung up,
because they had no deepness of earth:
6. "And when the Sun was up,
they were scorched;
and because they had no root,
they withered away.

7. "And some fell among thorns;
and the thorns sprung up,
and choked them:

8. "But other fell into good ground,
and brought forth fruit,
some an hundredfold,
some sixtyfold,
some thirtyfold.

9. "Who hath ears to hear,
let him hear."

10. And the Disciples came,
and said unto him,

"Why speakest thou unto them in Parables?"

11. He answered and said unto them,

"Because it is given unto you,
to know The Mysteries of The Kingdom of God,
but to them it is not given.
12. "For whosoever hath,
to him it shall be given,
and he shall have more abundance:
but whosoever hath not,
from him shall be taken away
even that he hath.
13. "Therefore speak I to them in Parables:
because they seeing
see not,
and hearing they hear not, neither do they Understand.
14. "And in them is fulfilled
the Prophecy of Esaias,
which saith,


'BY HEARING YE SHALL HEAR,
AND SHALL NOT UNDERSTAND;
AND SEEING YE SHALL SEE,
AND NOT PERCEIVE:
15. 'FOR THIS PEOPLE'S HEART IS WAXED GROSS,
AND (THEIR) EARS ARE DULL OF HEARING,
AND THEIR EYES THEY HAVE CLOSED;
LEST AT ANY TIME
THEY SHOULD SEE WITH (THEIR) EYES,
AND HEAR WITH (THEIR) EARS,
AND SHOULD UNDERSTAND WITH (THEIR) HEART,
AND SHOULD BE CONVERTED,
AND I SHOULD HEAL THEM.'


16. "But Blessed (are) your eyes,
for they see:
and your ears,
for they hear.
17. "For verily I say unto you,


'THAT MANY PROPHETS AND RIGHTEOUS (MEN)
HAVE DESIRED TO SEE
(THOSE THINGS) WHICH YE SEE,
AND HAVE NOT SEEN (THEM);
AND TO HEAR (THOSE THINGS) WHICH YE HEAR,
AND HAVE NOT HEARD (THEM).'


18. "Hear ye therefore THE PARABLE OF THE SOWER.

[b]19. 'WHEN ANY ONE HEARETH
THE WORD OF THE KINGDOM,
AND UNDERSTANDETH (IT) NOT,
THEN COMETH THE WICKED (ONE),
AND CATCHETH AWAY
THAT WHICH WAS SOWN
IN HIS HEART.
THIS IS HE WHICH RECEIVED SEED
BY THE WAY SIDE.

'BUT HE THAT RECEIVED THE SEED
INTO STONY PLACES,
THE SAME IS HE
THAT HEARETH THE WORD,
AND ANON WITH JOY
RECEIVETH IT;
21. 'BUT HE THAT RECEIVED THE SEED
INTO STONY PLACES,
THE SAME IS HE
THAT HEARETH THE WORD,
AND ANON WITH JOY
RECEIVETH IT;
21. 'YET HATH HE NOT
ROOT IN HIMSELF,
BUT DURETH BUT FOR A WHILE:
FOR WHEN TRIBULATION OR PERSECUTION
ARISETH BECAUSE OF THE WORD,
BY AND BY HE IS OFFENDED.

22. 'HE ALSO THAT RECEIVED SEED
AMONG THE THORNS
IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD;
AND THE CARE OF THE WORLD,
AND THE DECEITFULNESS OF RICHES,
CHOKE THE WORD,
AND HE BECOMETH UNFRUITFUL.

23. 'BUT HE THAT RECEIVED SEED
INTO THE GOOD GROUND
IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD,
AND UNDERSTANDETH (IT);
WHICH ALSO BEARETH FRUIT,
AND BRINGETH FORTH,
SOME AN HUNDREDFOLD,
SOME SIXTY,
SOME THIRTY.' "
[/b]


I came to this awareness as early as 1985, during a period of Deep Seeking. All I knew was that THE PARABLE OF THE SOWER was KEY.

I had NO IDEA what Lord Yahshua could have meant by that- so I meditated on that Scripture for weeks- not-knowing what would happen.

I FASTED a few days, and SUDDENLY, it was like a KNOT inside my BRAIN came UNDONE- and, *BOOM!* it was like... I had been ASLEEP my whole life, BUT DID NOT KNOW IT, and was now AWAKE for the FIRST TIME!

I had experienced this feeling BEFORE- when I became BORN AGAIN- except this was EVEN MORE SO!

I suddenly saw EVERYTHING in the LIGHT of THE PARABLE OF THE SOWER: It became like a HAMMER to me, and EVERYTHING looked like NAIL HEADS!

After that all other preaching looked childishly foolish to me.

I would see everything they said right, but also everything they said wrong.

I understood why THE PARABLE OF THE SOWER was THE KEY PARABLE. What I did not realize until YEARS later, was that I now understood ALL OF YAHSHUA'S PARABLES!

I found that I also understood other Spiritual Systems. When my life was threatened by the Sorcerers of my hometown, I decided that I needed to research Sorcery, to try to understand exactly how these people THINK.

Therefore I began reading the CARLOS CASTANEDA books.

I only had access to a couple:

JOURNEY TO IXTLAN.
THE FIRE FROM WITHIN.

With these two books, I saw exactly what they knew, or what they thought they knew- and did not need to know any more.

However, every other Carlos Castaneda book added Knowledge that I totally didn't anticipate. It took me eleven years to get my hands on eleven of the twelve. By then, the idiotic OYINBOS had gotten himself killed.

But in the meantime I had also found SCIENTOLOGY, which has the most incredible analysis of the Human Mind and its characteristics- which, when you investigate it, you will find why the OYINBOS do not want anybody in general, and BLACKS in particular, knowing what L. RON HUBBARD, the founder, REALLY taught

NAGUALISM and SCIENTOLOGY both AGREE that people fall into one of FOUR POSSIBLE Spiritual Categories- and those in the INFERIOR Categories CAN, by their PERSONAL EFFORTS attain the SUPERIOR Category.

Therefore, we attain HOLINESS by OUR OWN EFFORTS, and NOTHING ELSE.

[color=silver].[/color]   EXODUS 19:5-6.

5. "Now therefore,
if ye will obey My Voice indeed,
and keep My Covenant,
then ye shall be
a Peculiar Treasure unto Me
above all people:
for all the Earth is mine:
6. "And ye shall be unto Me a Kingdom of Priests, and an holy nation. These are the Words which thou shalt speak unto The Children of Israel."


[color=silver].[/color]   EXODUS 22:31.

31. "And ye shall be Holy men unto Me:
neither shall ye eat any flesh
that is torn of beasts in the field;
ye shall cast it to the dogs."


[color=silver].[/color]   EXODUS 31:14.

14. Ye shall keep The Sabbath therefore;
for it is Holy unto you:
every one that defileth It
shall surely be put to death:
for whosoever doeth any work therein,
that soul shall be cut off
from among his people."


[color=silver].[/color]   [u LEVITICUS 11:43-45.[/u]

43. "Ye shall not make yourselves
abominable with any
creeping thing that creepeth,
neither shall ye
make yourselves unclean with them,
that ye should be defiled thereby.
44. "For I am The LORD your God:
ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves,
and ye shall be Holy;
for I am Holy:
neither shall ye defile yourselves
with any manner of creeping thing
that creepeth upon the Earth.
45. "For I am The LORD
that bringeth you up
out of the land of Egypt,
to be your God:
ye shall therefore be Holy,
for I am Holy."


[color=silver].[/color]   LEVITICUS 19:1-2.


AND The LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
2. "Speak unto all the Congregation
of The Children of Israel,
and say unto them,


'YE SHALL BE HOLY:
FOR I THE LORD YOUR GOD
AM HOLY.' "


[color=silver].[/color]   LEVITICUS 20:26.

26. "And ye shall be Holy unto Me:
for I The LORD am Holy,
and have severed you
from other people,
that ye should be Mine."


THE PARABLE OF THE SOWER SHOWS THE PERFORMANCE LEVEL OF PEOPLE WITH THE WORD OF GOD.

This is not the only field of application: IT APPLIES TO EVERY FIELD OF OPERATION.

[See: SELF ANALYSIS, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

[b]In the old testament, precious vessels that are strictly for God's usage were set apart for God only. They were always referred to as "HOLY" because they are set apart for God. A Babylonian King once raided Jerusalem and carted away those golden vessels to his land. Then his son who reigned after him was doing a VIP party one day and decided to use those dedicated cups. That was when a strange hand wrote on his wall "Teke tee mene urpasin" which Daniel had to interpret. That king died that very night for tempering with what was Holy.
The point to note is that when you entered where the holy items were kept, you would have noticed that those items were Holy not because of what they did or were doing. They became Holy because they were WHOLLY DEDICATED to God!
The Old Testament is a crucial part of the Bible because from it we can best understand the New Testament Life.
Here in the New Testament, Holiness shifted from the earthly temple to humans who are now God's Temples.[/b]
NAGUALISM- the System of the Native American ShapeShifting SEERS- is based upon the ability to directly not only perceive Spiritual Energy, but to analyze the different types, and their purposes.

They were HUNTED TO EXTINCTION by the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH- who had reason to believe that their Knowledge would destroy them.

They were able to distinguish the differences between the four Spiritual Energy Categories.

They were able to determine that SPECIFIC ACTIONS ARE REQUIRED BY LIVING CREATURES TO ENHANCE THEIR HEAVEN-SENT SPIRITUAL ENERGIES CALLED LIFE.

These Necessary Actions can be divined from Spiritual Analysis of objects and entities used to fulfill them. They correspond to the BIBLICAL COMMANDMENTS.

Through following these Commandments, the NAGUALS were able to make their way to the Realm that LIFE is SENT to Earth from- consistent with the BIBLICAL HEAVEN.

The implication of this being that THE BIBLE IS REDUNDANT, because THE WHOLE WORLD has had "THE WORD OF GOD" all around us, the whole time.

The implication of THAT is that NO RACE HAS ANY EXCUSE for not finding God.

One of the things that the Naguals discovered is that PHYSICAL OBJECTS STORE SPIRITUAL ENERGY- that is "BLESSED" or "ACCURSED," depending on whether they had been used to FULFILL or to VIOLATE the "COMMANDMENTS" ENCODED into them by "THE CREATOR."

A Thing or Being used to fulfil The Commandments of God would thus ACCUMULATE Spirit Energy until it was no longer DEAD or UNJUST, but FILTHY, then RIGHTEOUS, then HOLY.

God no longer dwell in buildings built by man but in Temple built by Himself- Man!
Re: HOLINESS Is NOT "Optional!" by oaroloye(op): 6:59pm On Jun 11, 2017
opalu:
God no longer dwell in buildings built by man but in Temple built by Himself- Man!
TO SAY THAT GOD NO LONGER DWELLS IN BUILDINGS BUILT BY MAN IS THE HIGHEST HEIGHT OF IGNORANCE.

How many buildings did YAHWEH GOD ever dwell in?

Take your time to think about that.

HOW COULD GOD DWELL IN A MAN-MADE BUILDING?

It would STRONGLY DEPEND on WHAT the building was USED FOR.

If a building could be MADE HOLY, GOD could not have LOST the ABILITY to indwell it!

GOD LEFT HIS TEMPLE WHEN THE HIGH PRIEST KILLED HIS SON.

That meant that THAT was what that building was being used for, NOW. There is NO WAY God could be a PARTY to THAT.

All of the PREACHING and SACRIFICES done there became MEANINGLESSNESS- when they ADDED UP to THAT ACTION!

That was why He repeatedly stated "BE YE HOLY BECAUSE I AM HOLY!"
Anybody who THINKS can SEE that THAT COULD NOT POSSIBLY be the reason why Yahweh God repeatedly stated that, because because THAT COMMANDMENT CAME SOME 300 YEARS BEFORE THE BUILDING OF THE FIRST TEMPLE.

Someone once asked me:- "How can we be holy as God is?" I told him that if a stainless steel cup is containing hot water, can the container be hot BECAUSE the content is hit?" He answered yes. Then in said if you carry God, you don't have your own Holiness by simply transmit the Holiness of God.
They should not have asked YOU, because you are obviously CLUELESS!

You commit the ERROR of "putting the cart before the horse!"

(You also commit the error of trusting SPELL-CHECKERS! "Use the FORCE, Luke!" Hit? Hot?)

[color=silver].[/color]      DEUTERONOMY 22:9-11.

9. Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard
with divers seeds:
lest the fruit of thy seed
which thou hast sown,
and the fruit of thy vineyard,
be defiled.
10. Thou shalt not plow
with an ox and an ass together.
11. Thou shalt not wear a garment
of divers sorts
as of woollen and linen together.


[color=silver].[/color]      AMOS 3:3.

3. "Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?"


[color=silver].[/color]     MATTHEW 9:16-17.

16. "No man putteth
a piece of new cloth
unto an old garment,
for that which is put in
to fill it up
taketh from the garment,
and the rent is made worse.
17. "Neither do men
put new wine into old bottles:
else the bottles break,
and the wine runneth out,
and the bottles perish:
but they put new wine
into new bottles,
and both are preserved."


[color=silver].[/color]    JOHN 14:15-27.

15. "If ye love me,
keep my Commandments.
16. "And I will pray The Father,
and He shall give you
another Comforter,
that He may
abide with you
for ever;
17. "Even The Spirit of Truth;
Whom the World
cannot receive,
because It seeth Him not,
neither knoweth Him:
but ye know Him;
for He dwelleth with you,
and shall be in you.
18. "I will not leave you comfortless:
I will come to you.
19. "Yet a little while,
and the World
seeth me no more;
but ye see me:
because I live,
ye shall live also.
20. "At that day
ye shall know
that I am in my Father,
and ye in me,
and I in you.
21. "He that hath my Commandments,
and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me
shall be loved of my Father,
and I will love him,
and will manifest myself
to him."

22. Judas saith unto him,
not Iscariot,

"Lord, how is it
that thou wilt
manifest thyself unto us,
and not unto the World?"

23. Jesus answered
and said unto him,

"If a man love me,
he will keep my Words:
and my Father
will love him,
and we will come unto him,
and make our abode
with him.
24. "He that loveth me not
keepeth not my Sayings:
and the Word which ye hear
is not mine,
but The Father's
Which sent me.
25. "These things
have I spoken unto you,
being yet present with you.
26. "But The Comforter,
Which is The Holy Ghost,
Whom The Father
will send in my Name,
He shall teach you
all things,
and bring all things
to your remembrance,
whatsoever I have said
unto you.
27. "Peace I leave with you,
my Peace I give unto you:
not as the World giveth,
give I unto you.
Let not your heart
be troubled,
neither let it
be afraid."


OUR DEFAULT SPIRITUAL CATEGORY IS DETERMINED AT OUR CONCEPTION BY THE MEAN OF THE CURRENT SPIRITUAL ENERGY STATUS OF OUR PARENTS AT THE TIME OF CONCEPTION.

If that is less than HOLINESS, our default Spiritual Category will reflect that. A CONSIDERABLE amount of Spiritual Energy is DETACHED from the SOUL BODY during SEX, in the attempt to create a new offspring- even when that is clearly impossible.

EXCESSIVE RECREATIONAL SEX and other forms of EXHAUSTION can cause children to be conceived with LOW SPIRITUAL ENERGY, and is the one of the GREATEST DISSERVICES that can be done to the newly-conceived.

Another is to HAVE VIOLENT SEX DURING PREGNANCY.

The MOTION and the PRESSURE CHANGES injure the fetus, and WORDS SPOKEN during that TIME OF PAIN are RECORDED VERBATIM, and later in life, when the MIND can UNDERSTAND them, are INTERPRETED as LITERAL COMMANDS, which it tries to fulfil LITERALLY.

This can happen at any time in life, and could have very serious consequences.

ONE CANNOT RECEIVE THE HOLY GHOST WITHOUT BEING HOLY FIRST.

Lord Yahshua ATTEMPTED TWICE to bestow THE HOLY GHOST upon his Disciples.

Both attempts FAILED.

How do I know this?

WHATEVER THEY HAD DID NOT REMIND THEM OF LORD YAHSHUA'S TEACHINGS.

They NEVER loved him. EVER.

THE FULL GOSPEL PENTECOSTAL MOVEMENT FAILED, when it FELL to following "APOSTLES" instead of THE LORD.

Whoever touches you feels the heat even without prayer and fasting. The physical is a shadow of the spiritual. The problem we usually have is that we make futile attempts to generate our own righteousness whereas the righteousness of man is like filthy rags before God. He has already made you the Righteousness of God through him who knew no sin but took away your sin!
WHATEVER YOU HAVE CANNOT BE THE HOLY GHOST, OR YOU WOULD KNOW PAUL'S TEACHINGS FOR LIES.

[color=silver].[/color]    1st JOHN 14:15-27.

3. And hereby we do know
that we know him,


"IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS."

4. He that saith,

"I KNOW HIM,"

and keepeth not his Commandments,
is a liar,
and The Truth is not in him.
5. But whoso keepeth his Word,
in him verily
is The Love of God perfected:
hereby know we
that we are in him.
6. He that saith he abideth in him
ought himself so to walk,
even as he walked.


IF YOU DO NOT KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD YAHSHUA, YOU ARE NOT IN HIM!

PAUL and HIS FOLLOWERS will NEVER tell you THAT- otherwise, you would NEVER FOLLOW them, and their PHARISEE DOCTRINE of IMAGINARY RIGHTEOUSNESS.
[color=silver].[/color].     MATTHEW 5:1-20.

AND seeing the multitudes,
he went up into a mountain:
and when he was set,
his Disciples came unto him:
2. And he opened his mouth,
and taught them, saying,
3. "Blessed are the Poor in Spirit:
for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
4. "Blessed are they that mourn:
for they shall be comforted.
5. "Blessed are the meek:
for they shall inherit the Earth.
6. Blessed are they which do
Hunger and Thirst after Righteousness:
for they shall be filled.
7. "Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain Mercy.
8. "Blessed are the Pure in Heart: for they shall see God.
9. "Blessed are the PeaceMakers:
for they shall be called the Children of God.
10. "Blessed are they which are Persecuted for Righteousness' sake:
for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
11. "Blessed are ye, when men shall Revile you,
and Persecute you,
and shall say all manner of Evil against you Falsely,
for my sake.
12. "Rejoice, and be exceeding glad:
for great is your Reward in Heaven:
for so Persecuted they the Prophets which were before you.
13. "Ye are the Salt of the Earth:
but if the salt have lost his savour,
wherewith shall it be salted?
It is thenceforth good for nothing,
but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
14. "Ye are the Light of the World.
A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
15. "Neither do men light a candle,
and put it under a bushel,
but on a candlestick;
and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
16. "Let your light so shine before men,
that they may see your Good Works,
and glorify your Father which is in Heaven.
17. "Think not that I am come
to destroy The Law, or The Prophets:
I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18. "For verily I say unto you,


'TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS,
ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE
SHALL IN NO WISE
PASS FROM THE LAW,
TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'


19. "Whosoever therefore shall break
one of these least Commandments,
and shall teach men so,
he shall be called the least
in the Kingdom of Heaven:
but whosoever shall do and teach them,
the same shall be called great
in the Kingdom of Heaven.
20. "For I say unto you,


'THAT EXCEPT YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS
SHALL EXCEED THE RIGHTEOUSNESS
OF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES,
YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.' "


The followers of LORD YAHSHUA are THE SALT OF THE EARTH and THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD!

THEIR RIGHTEOUSNESS EXCEEDS the Righteousness of THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES, which was "FILTHY RAGS."

In ISAIAH'S TIME, people ABUSED the SACRIFICES- doing them CORRECTLY- but still COMMITTING SINS.

They THOUGHT that that they could BUY THE RIGHT-TO-SIN with their SACRIFICES: that is what made their Righteousness "FILTHY RAGS."

IT DOES NOT APPLY TO TRUE CHRISTIANS. Paul was NEVER a Christian- GET THAT STRAIGHT.

You need to STOP DELUDING YOURSELF that you have GOD INSIDE YOU, because of your BELIEFS. Whatever you think you have, IT IS NOT GOD- otherwise you would be DEAD right now your SOUL BODY torn apart!

[color=silver].[/color]    LUKE 14:7-11.

7. And he put forth a Parable
to those which were bidden,
when he marked how
they chose out the chief rooms;
saying unto them,

8. "When thou art
bidden of any man to a wedding,
sit not down in the highest room;
lest a more honourable man
than thou be bidden of him;
9. "And he that bade thee and him
come and say to thee,


'GIVE THIS MAN PLACE;'

and thou begin with shame
to take the lowest room.
10. "But when thou art bidden,
go and sit down in the lowest room;
that when he that bade thee cometh,
he may say unto thee,


'FRIEND, GO UP HIGHER:'

then shalt thou have worship
in the presence of them
that sit at meat with thee.
11. "For whosoever exalteth himself
shall be abased;
and he that humbleth himself
shall be exalted."


WHAT PAUL HAS DONE IS TEMPT CHRISTIANS TO EXALT THEMSELVES, AND "CLAIM" ATTRIBUTES THE HAVE NO RIGHT TO!

He used FLATTERY as BAIT to draw IGNORANT BELIEVERS into his TRAPS!

[color=silver].[/color]    PROVERBS 26:24-28.

24. He that hateth
Dissembleth with his lips,
and layeth up Deceit within him;
25. When he speaketh fair,
believe him not
for there are seven Abominations
in his heart.
26. Whose hatred
is covered by Deceit,
his wickedness shall be shewed
before the whole Congregation.
27. Whoso diggeth a Pit
shall fall therein:
and he that rolleth a stone,
it will return upon him.
28. A Lying Tongue hateth those
that are afflicted by it;
and a Flattering Mouth worketh Ruin.


IT IS LITERALLY THE OLDEST TRICK IN THE BOOK.
Re: HOLINESS Is NOT "Optional!" by Nobody: 9:05pm On Jun 11, 2017
[quote author=Igba123 post=57414500][/quote]thanks for the simplicity God bless​
Re: HOLINESS Is NOT "Optional!" by Nobody: 9:32pm On Jun 11, 2017
it's no longer a strange thing that the gospel is more like divided (for some to claim or believe in OSAS-once saved always saved and others don't ) am not really talking about this.... just want to make you realise that something is wrong in our MODERN Christianity ..

the variations in ideas is not biblical (it's God's will that all our conversations and perceptions concerning his words be one ) but alas we can ALL really see that it's not

some Christians are considered EXTREMISTS others are considered APOSTATES or HERETICS hmmm

churches no longer hold ENTIRELY the SAME doctrines

it all draws to one conclusion that CHRISTIANITY IS ATTACKED it's a real FACT THAT THE WHOLE OF HELL CAN'T PREVAIL BECAUSE THERE WILL ALWAYS BE PEOPLE OF TRUTH but we can be sure that many will and have fallen away .....

and one thing to those that know the truth .. you can't convince or make someone who doesn't believe it hold the same doctrines as you believe in your doctrines by posting and abusing - it won't work instead it will lead to more ungodliness

let's endeavor to practice holiness that we preach

may God help us AMEN

judgement is without mercy to those who have shown no mercy
Re: HOLINESS Is NOT "Optional!" by ScienceWatch: 1:27am On Jun 12, 2017
oaroloye:
SHALOM!



Why are you wasting your time?

Get SAVED, then you will develop PATIENCE, and you will be capable of LEARNING from Fields of Data that you do not even like.

I write in this style to specifically SCREEN-OUT those who do not have Warrior Attributes.
I have to whole heartedly agree with Ignis because I too have acquired a phobia after weeks of trying to make sense of Bronchitis Oaroloye's extra long, out of context epistles. God have mercy on us.

The not so hidden reason why you write in this tormenting style is an attempt to hide your deeper motives to steer Christians away from the amazing simplicity of the Gospels. In its simplicity lies the Christians protection from the Anti- Christ Bronchitis Oaroloye, Indeed wolves in sheeps clothes come to mind.

Bronchitis Oaroloye has deliberately chosen to serve his Handler Pastor Chris Okotie of the Pentecostal PFN & CFAN in their 30 year old mission to destroy the SCOAN Church. Inspite of various international independent investigations proving that they are all fabricating LIES about Prophet/Pastor TB Joshua, Bronchitis Oaroloye mercilessly insults the dignity of thousands that testify to their effective and scientifically verifiable restorations and spiritual SALVATION.

Below is a brief extract to summarize the finding of a respected investigative organization call The Religious Monitor Group;

We, as an independent organization devoted to the study of the doctrine, mode of worship, preaching, teaching and practice of religious bodies and Church organizations in Nigeria have focused our attention to the recent unwarranted attack and allegations against Pastor T. B. Joshua of The Synagogue Church of all Nations

In addition to the role and objective of our organization as stipulated above, we also monitor the lifestyle of the head of the various Church organizations, General Overseers and men of God.

The sustained unrelenting attack on Pastor T. B. Joshua and lately on Pastor Chris Oyakhilome by Pastor Chris Okotie because of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome’s association with Pastor T. B. Joshua has led to a thorough investigation by our organization of Pastor T. B. Joshua, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome and the accuser, Pastor Chris Okotie.

The result of our investigations, findings and assessments is herewith attached:

In addition to our investigation, our organization made a request to Lagos State Government and the Federal Government of Nigeria to investigate the allegations made against Pastor T. B. Joshua of the Synagogue Church of all Nations by Rev. Chris Okatie and the Pentecostal fellowship of Nigeria.

At our request, both the Lagos State and Federal Government of Nigeria carried out thorough and extensive investigation of all the allegations through the use of State investigative network. Result of the Government investigation revealed that there was no substance in the Pastor Chris Okotie’s and the Pentecostal fellowship allegations against Pastor T. B. Joshua as a result of which the Government pronounced verdict of innocence.

Thereafter, the Lagos State Government and Federal Government authorities invited Pastor T. B. Joshua and his accuser Chris Okotie (see enclosed letters) to a meeting. Where the government issued warnings to Pastor Okotie and his Pentecostal Fellowship Group to desist from their falsehood, unfounded, mischievous and malicious attack laden with blatant lies against Pastor T. B. Joshua and Oyakhilome.

Religious monitor has been monitoring the Synagogue Church of All Nations since 1993 when the organization came to Nigeria prominence up-to-date, the monitoring is still progressing and so far, we have found nothing unusual or unbiblical [/b]in the practice, doctrine, teaching and mode of worship of the Synagogue Church of All Nations.

[b]The life of the general overseer
and founder of the Church (Pastor T. B. Joshua) is worthy of emulation. Our conclusion and verdict is that Pastor T. B. Joshua received his anointing through absolute righteousness and holiness, which many of Nigeria’s Pentecostal Church Pastors lack.

The Majority of today’s Pentecostal Church Pastors in Nigeria are Pastors of fortune seekers, morally bankrupt people, adulterers, mischievous, deceitful people as a result of which the Churches are personal estates and properties of the founder, general overseer and his immediate family. For example, Pastor Chris Okotie has been deserted by his wife who has alleged wide spread adultery with members of the congregation by Pastor Okotie. The wife is now filing for divorce. Similarly, Pastor Oritsajefor has divorced his first wife and now married to the wife of a member of the congregation. Such is the unholy practice of these Pastors.

This situation has made it impossible for most of the new generation Nigerian Pentecostal Churches to receive true anointing. A few among them, such as; Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG), Living Faith (a.k.a Winners Chapel), Mountain of Fire and Miracle Ministries, Deeper Life Ministries, Love world Assemblies (a.k.a Christ embassy) and few others can be said to meet the standard expected in the ministry of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Pastor T. B. Joshua has been found to be very upright and righteous and has received the true anointing of the Holy Spirit. The arrival of the true Holy Spirit anointed Pastor into the Nigerian Christian Ministries has been kicking Satan left and right, and the kingdom of Satan has been badly damaged.

The people fighting and accusing Pastor T. B. Joshua are in this category. They are the false and fortune seeker Pastors. Such as Chris Okotie and some of his fellow Pentecostal fellowship of Nigeria members. They are not actually fighting Pastor T. B. Joshua, they are fighting the happenings of holy spiritual hearings at the Synagogue. They are fighting the miracles of God happening at the Synagogue. The hearings and miracles taken place at the Synagogue can only be by the anointing of the Holy Spirit of God. This has challenged the kingdom of Satan in Nigeria and has threatened their survival and existence.
The fellow Pastors threatened are the one fighting to protect their interest and survival. Unfortunately, it is too late for them.

The influx of foreign missionaries, President of Nations and dignitaries from all over the world to the Synagogue is as a result of this true anointing. The hearings and miracles according to Pastor T. B. Joshua is not the work of his own hand but his father THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. The miracles and hearings are received free and all the thousands of various missionaries from all over the world on pilgrimage to Synagogue are accommodated free with feeding as no one pays for anything at the Synagogue. No endowment fund, no development fund, no special contribution and no extortion is allowed at the Synagogue as practiced by other Pentecostal Churches through which the founders and general overseers enrich themselves.

Finally, we recommend that your magazine arrange a visit to the Synagogue on an investigative mission and an interview with Pastor T. B. Joshua. We at religious monitor believe that Pastor T. B. Joshua is the gift of God to Nigeria, mankind and the whole world. Despite the tribulation similar to what our Lord Jesus suffered, the Pastor and the Church are waxing stronger and stronger.

We thank you in anticipation of a prominent and elaborate publication of this rejoinder: IN DEFENSE OF THE TRUTH.

Yours in the service of the Lord,

Bishop (Dr,) Benjamin Okoye Alh. (Dr.) Usman Abdulkadir
Re: HOLINESS Is NOT "Optional!" by ScienceWatch: 2:00am On Jun 12, 2017
Re: HOLINESS Is NOT "Optional!" by seguno2: 6:18am On Jun 12, 2017
Re: HOLINESS Is NOT "Optional!" by oaroloye(op):
SHALOM!

expozey:
Hope you don't talk this much in person. Your writeups are usually very hard to follow because of the endless literature. You could try using fewer words to convey your message, then elucidate further when questions are asked. All the best
Any abuse or criticism of me does not go to ME, so much as to him that sent me.

Only SERVANTS OF SATAN would complain that I am writing too much, because much, if not most ,of what I post is SCRIPTURAL REFERENCES- which a CHRISTIAN would ALREADY KNOW- so they should just SCROLL PAST, and read MY COMMENTARY and NOTES.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

Why are you wasting your time?

Get SAVED, then you will develop PATIENCE, and you will be capable of LEARNING from Fields of Data that you do not even like.

I write in this style to specifically SCREEN-OUT those who do not have Warrior Attributes.
SUPPOSE I WROTE "THE LORD'S PRAYER," or, "PSALM 23?"

A "CHRISTIAN" who has to scrunch down and be LABORIOUSLY reading EVERY LAST LINE of "THE TEN COMMANDMENTS" must be an IDIOT!

SCIENCEWATCH did not know THE SECOND COMMANDMENT, nor DEUTERONOMY 28, nor LUKE 13:1-5, nor LUKE 13:6-9, nor JOHN 15:1-8, and was therefore SHOCKED when I said that (RAPE) VICTIMS ALL ALWAYS BRING ALL THEIR MISFORTUNES UPON THEMSELVES!

He accused ME of teaching SATANIC DOCTRINE and INSANITY: therefore BLASPHEMING Yahweh God, and CURSING the Prophet MOSES and the Lord YAHSHUA!

Who TALKS like that?

The WORST I expect anyone to say- the WORST anyone would ever say in my day, (in KENNETH HAGIN'S day, they ACCUSED HIM- TRUE STORY- of WRITING MARK 11:23-24! They DIDN'T BOTHER reading The Bible for themselves, they said: "How can HE say that "WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN, BE THOU REMOVED, AND BE THOU CAST INTO THE SEA; AND SHALL NOT DOUBT IN HIS HEART, BUT SHALL BELIEVE THAT THOSE THINGS WHICH HE SAITH SHALL COME TO PASS, HE SHALL HAVE WHATSOEVER HE SAITH!"? HOW can HE promise such a thing??!"wink was:

"BROTHER? I DON'T believe THAT'S right- you need to give us CHAPTER & VERSE for that- RIGHT NOW!"

Believe me, if you did not have your CHAPTER-AND-VERSE at the ready, you might wear more on your neck than a WINDSOR KNOT!

You complain about my many quotes, because YOU HATE THE WORD OF GOD, and DO NOT WANT TO KNOW IT.

I am addressing problems that have never been solved for FOUR THOUSAND YEARS, at least, until Lord YAHSHUA arrived- then HIS SOLUTIONS were BURIED IN THE EARTH- because THE DISCIPLES didn't want anyone to have them.

All your "ERUDITE SPEAKERS:" what have THEY solved? "NOTHING!" would be EXAGGERATION and LYING.

The thing is, THEY ONLY SOLVE SOME Problems- and NEVER THE ROOT- only the BRANCHES.

They WANT the problems to CONTINUE- so that they can KEEP FEEDING OFF OF YOU!

[color=silver].[/color] [b][u]2nd KINGS

14 Now Elisha was fallen sick
of his sickness whereof he died.
And Joash the king of Israel
came down unto him,
and wept over his face,
and said,

"O my father, my father,
the Chariot of Israel,
and the Horsemen thereof."

15. And Elisha said unto him,

"Take bow and arrows."

And he took unto him bow and arrows.
16. And he said to the king of Israel,

"Put thine hand upon the bow."

And he put his hand upon it:
and Elisha put his hands
upon the king's hands.
17. And he said,

"Open the window eastward."

And he opened it.
Then Elisha said,

"Shoot."

And he shot.
And he said,

"The Arrow of The LORD's Deliverance,
and the Arrow of Deliverance from Syria:
for thou shalt smite the Syrians in Aphek,
till thou have consumed them."

18. And he said,

"Take the arrows."

And he took them.
And he said unto the king of Israel,

"Smite upon the ground."

And he smote thrice,
and stayed.
19 And the man of God was
wroth with him,
and said,

"Thou shouldest have smitten
five or six times;
then hadst thou smitten Syria
till thou hadst consumed it:
whereas now thou shalt smite Syria
but thrice."

20. And Elisha died,
and they buried him.
And the bands of the Moabites
invaded the land
at the coming in of the year.
21. And it came to pass,
as they were burying a man,
that, behold,
they spied a band of men;
and they cast the man
into the Sepulchre of Elisha:
and when the man was let down,
and touched the Bones of Elisha,
he revived,
and stood up on his feet.


YOU SHOULD LOOK AT YOURSELF, AND SEE HOW MANY PROBLEMS YOU HAVE THAT ARE UNRESOLVED, BECAUSE YOUR FALSE TEACHERS "SPOKE BRIEFLY- THE WAY THE PROBLEMS LIKE IT!"
Re: HOLINESS Is NOT "Optional!" by ScienceWatch: 7:50pm On Aug 16, 2017
oaroloye:
SHALOM!



Any abuse or criticism of me does not go to ME, so much as to him that sent me. Only SERVANTS OF SATAN would complain that I am writing too much, because much, if not most ,of what I post is SCRIPTURAL REFERENCES- which a CHRISTIAN would ALREADY KNOW- so they should just SCROLL PAST, and read MY COMMENTARY and NOTES.

SUPPOSE I WROTE "THE LORD'S PRAYER," or, "PSALM 23?" A "CHRISTIAN" who has to scrunch down and be LABORIOUSLY reading EVERY LAST LINE of "THE TEN COMMANDMENTS" must be an IDIOT! SCIENCEWATCH did not know THE SECOND COMMANDMENT, nor DEUTERONOMY 28, nor LUKE 13:1-5, nor LUKE 13:6-9, nor JOHN 15:1-8, and was therefore SHOCKED when I said that (RAPE) VICTIMS ALL ALWAYS BRING ALL THEIR MISFORTUNES UPON THEMSELVES!

He accused ME of teaching SATANIC DOCTRINE and INSANITY: therefore BLASPHEMING Yahweh God, and CURSING the Prophet MOSES and the Lord YAHSHUA!

Who TALKS like that?
Pastor Bronchitis you rightly say, "Any abuse or criticism of me does not go to ME, so much as to him that sent me." Then why are you shouting abuse if you know it is not directed at you but the one that sent you, which is Lucifer.
Let him deal with it pastor.
Re: HOLINESS Is NOT "Optional!" by ScienceWatch:
oaroloye:
SHALOM!



Any abuse or criticism of me does not go to ME, so much as to him that sent me. Only SERVANTS OF SATAN would complain that I am writing too much, because much, if not most ,of what I post is SCRIPTURAL REFERENCES- which a CHRISTIAN would ALREADY KNOW- so they should just SCROLL PAST, and read MY COMMENTARY and NOTES.

SUPPOSE I WROTE "THE LORD'S PRAYER," or, "PSALM 23?" A "CHRISTIAN" who has to scrunch down and be LABORIOUSLY reading EVERY LAST LINE of "THE TEN COMMANDMENTS" must be an IDIOT! SCIENCEWATCH did not know THE SECOND COMMANDMENT, nor DEUTERONOMY 28, nor LUKE 13:1-5, nor LUKE 13:6-9, nor JOHN 15:1-8, and was therefore SHOCKED when I said that (RAPE) VICTIMS ALL ALWAYS BRING ALL THEIR MISFORTUNES UPON THEMSELVES!

He accused ME of teaching SATANIC DOCTRINE and INSANITY: therefore BLASPHEMING Yahweh God, and CURSING the Prophet MOSES and the Lord YAHSHUA!

Who TALKS like that?
Pastor Bronchitis you rightly say, "Any abuse or criticism of me does not go to ME, so much as to him that sent me." Then why are you shouting abuse if you know it is not directed at you but the one that sent you, which is Lucifer.
Let your lord Lucifer deal with it pastor. Or let your Satanic master L.Ron Hubbard deal with it. His son Ron Dewolf told us that his dad worship Lucifer daily and had sex-orgies at the alter of his church with 4 to 5 innocent young girls at a time.

You got that right ! it goes to the one that sent you.

Re: HOLINESS Is NOT "Optional!" by 701ecilana: 8:36pm On Aug 16, 2017
seguno2:
Can you provide the link where he preached such profanity.
Thanks.
Are you new here? He opened a thread for that here. Check his profile you'd see the thread.
Re: HOLINESS Is NOT "Optional!" by ScienceWatch: 5:19pm On Sep 23, 2017
oaroloye:
SHALOM!



Many stupid Doctrines are out in the field, because people just accepted them, based on isolated interpretations of Scriptures, being ignorant of their immediate context, and the overlying Message of The Old Testament, The New Testament, and THE WHOLE BIBLE.

What are YAHWEH GOD'S GOALS?

His ONLY GOAL has ALWAYS been to produce a HOLY people. You could only have known that if you knew what HOLINESS is- and you did not know that.

HOLINESS is the Spiritual Energy Category that has the characteristic attribute of EFFORTLESS FRUITFULNESS WITH THE WORD OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

HOLINESS is therefore not an OPTION of:

"YOU KNOW- MAYBE YOU MIGHT JUST DECIDE TO TRY THIS-IF YOU WERE SO INCLINED? BUT IF NOT- DON'T WORRY- I WILL STILL LOVE YOU!"

Nothing can be further from THE TRUTH! If you REJECT OBEDIENCE of GOD'S COMMANDMENT to ATTAIN HOLINESS, be assured:

"GOD DOES NOT LOVE YOU, NOR IS HE YOUR FRIEND, BUT YOUR ENEMY!

"YOU DO NOT LOVE GOD, IF YOU ARE NOT HOLY; YOU ARE NOT HIS FRIEND, BUT HIS ABOMINABLE ENEMY!"


"LOVE" is another vague and nebulous term, whose definition has been left to the UNJUST, in FALSE Christian Churches.

"LOVE" means "TO OBEY THE COMMANDMENTS OF." The Ancient Greeks who transcribed The New Testament had at least TWELVE separate terms that the OYINBOS deceitfully translated "LOVE."

The ONE type of "LOVE" that YOU Believe in, Teach, and Do is "EROS: ROMANTIC LOVE."
I swear that you are describing the Satanic "love" and "holiness" of your spiritual masters, the fraudsters L . Ron Hubbard
and Carlos Castaneda. You would be forced to admit that actions speak far louder than your nice deceptive words.

Pastor Bronchitis, Let us for a brief moment examine the source of your "love and "holiness." Your spiritual master of Criminal Scientology L.Ron Hubbard's expressed his love by having regular SEX-ORGIES on the alter of The Church Of Scientology with his son and up to five young church girls.
Then shockingly, he would express his holiness by spraying his corrosive sperm over his church alter.

Your other spiritual master, the fraudster Carlos Castaneda expressed his "love" by screwing all the members of his cult.
He expressed his "holiness" by fraudulently publishing his fictional novel on Nagualism as Non-fiction to fool you and
his Anthropology Professors. You helped make the world believe this fiction to start a sperm laden cult.

Considering the above facts, could this be the reason why you consistently preach that "IT IS THE RAPE VICTIMS FAULT IF THEY ARE RAPED" ?
Could your love for the criminals L. Ron Hubbard and Castaneda have initiated you into diabolical Satanism ?

Why would you cruelly insist that even "BABIES ARE TO BLAME IF THEY ARE RAPE" huhhuh
Re: HOLINESS Is NOT "Optional!" by bloodofthelamb(m): 6:54pm On Sep 23, 2017
seguno2:
Is love towards your neighbor optional?
Between loving your neighbor and holiness, which one should be top priority?
BROS, LOVING JESUS IS OUR TOP PRIORITY...FOR WHEN WE LOVE JESUS, LOVING OUR NEIGHBOUR WILL BE LIKE EATING DODO IN OTHER WORDS, IT WILL BE EASY.
Re: HOLINESS Is NOT "Optional!" by seguno2: 4:47am On Sep 24, 2017
bloodofthelamb:
BROS, LOVING JESUS IS OUR TOP PRIORITY...FOR WHEN WE LOVE JESUS, LOVING OUR NEIGHBOUR WILL BE LIKE EATING DODO IN OTHER WORDS, IT WILL BE EASY.
Have you seen Jesus Christ physically?
Did you read where He said that you cannot love God whom you have not seen, if you don't first of all love your neighbor whom you see?
Re: HOLINESS Is NOT "Optional!" by bloodofthelamb(m): 8:49am On Sep 24, 2017
seguno2:
Have you seen Jesus Christ physically?
Did you read where He said that you cannot love God whom you have not seen, if you don't first of all love your neighbor whom you see?
HATE IS THE ABSENCE OF LOVE...THERE IS NO WAY WE CAN LOVE OUR NEIGHBOUR WITHOUT LOVE IN US... IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO LOVE ANYONE WITHOUT JESUS CHRIST IN US, FOR HE IS LOVE...WE CANNOT GIVE WHAT WE DON'T HAVE, NEITHER CAN WE MANIFEST WHAT IS NOT IN US...PEACE
Re: HOLINESS Is NOT "Optional!" by oaroloye(op): 5:03pm On Jun 29, 2019
MISHIGAS!

expozey:
Hope you don't talk this much in person. Your writeups are usually very hard to follow because of the endless literature. You could try using fewer words to convey your message, then elucidate further when questions are asked. All the best
When Lord Yeshua preached, people stayed with him for up to three days in the Wilderness, knowing that they had no supplies, nor shelter.

I am giving you everything you need to survive and thrive, but instead of expressing gratitude, you rudely tell me that The Spirit of God talks too much.

You didn't know any of the Scriptures I have quoted before, which you have to know, before you are competent to say that you know the subject. Your people love unholiness, and liars, who tell you that you don't need to know all this- just believe their Teachings, and everything will work out.

Everything will not "work out."

At this rate, Lord Yeshua will tell you that he never knew you.
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