₦airaland Forum

nototribalist:
I'm surprise Afonjas have not arrived yet. They like to put their mouth in something that don't concern them.

u dey find trouble abi
At times like this, it's good to be the umpire.

Deicide:
And you quote the whole text just to say this?

yes...to get the ignorant ope's attention

i stopped reading when i saw this "The complete lack of regard for the religious believe of the typical Muslim is usually the trigger for violence between the Arewa Muslim community and the Igbo nation, it is not unusual to find an Igbo man provocatively gulping a bottle of beer before a fasting Muslim neighbor without recourse to their emotions during Ramadan, the failure and outright refusal of a vast majority of the Igbo community to recognize and respect the religious beliefs of their host communities will continue to be the weakest and most lethal link in this complex relationship."

So because some set of people are fasting then others should not drink beer or may be eat again? you were making sense until i read that.
i will advise you to delete that part and think of something else to say. Its like saying people should not take their bath because its snowing in America, and Americans dont bathe during that period. mtcheww

Mr Oche otorkpa, Your message to the Biafra agitators and the Arewa quit notice issuers and the entire Nigerians is remarkable. I wish we will understand your analysis and live in peace and unity as one Nigerians of good people and one nation.

ochejoseph:
BIAFRA VS AREWA FACE OFF: THE FIVE MAJOR ISSUE
WE MUST NOT FAIL TO US


Growing up as a child in Rigiyar Dorowa area of Sokoto was one of the happiest times of my life, opposite our house were the native Hausa/ Fulani hosts while on our sides were the non-natives 80% of which were Igbos. life was good, pidgin English was the lingua franca and the two other languages we could not do without were Igbo and Hausa and as kids we spoke them fluently nobody thought us we just grew up to speaking the languages as we mingled without segregation.

I have stayed out the Biafra discussion because I realized that whenever the issue comes up emotions run high while common sense and logical reasoning is always thrown out of the window hence my decision to watch the drama on the sidelines ,As a child who was born, raised and educated in Sokoto, North western Nigeria, I have felt the warmth, kindness and undiluted love of the people, I also understand the thinking's of a typical northerner haven spent the first 27 years of my life there and as a husband to a lovely Igbo woman and father to kids with some Igbo blood in their veins I also have a stake in the Eastern region.

Like I asserted in my book the Unseen Terrorist published by Author house in the United Kingdom, telling yourself a lie is like putting a short gun to your head and pulling the trigger in both ways you end up destroying yourself. There are 5 issues we must objectively look at in the ethnic and religious conflict that produced the Biafra agitation, at this point in our nation’s history silence is no longer golden, and history will not be kind to us if we fail to objectively dissect the issue and help the warring parties understand what is truly at stake.

Issue Number 1: The Tendency of the North to always be Violent

No one likes living with animals, as Northerner's we have spilled so much human blood, about 75 % of our innocent and defenseless victims have been the Igbo people and their children, and we have not spared their property also. Once there is any small fight or civil disturbance the next thing a northern miscreant thinks of is how to destroy Igbo property and sniff life out of a fellow human being.
During the sharia and election crises we killed and destroyed their properties across northern Nigeria, while they were still bleeding from the pains of the civil war and the trauma of abandoned property we continued to make them our number one target at the slightest provocation, these animalistic behavior we have perfected over decades has made living with us a nightmare.
Even among the so called northerners we have remained extremely violent to ourselves, how do we explain the killings in my home state Benue, how do we rationalize the slaughter by Boko haram in the North East. The Agatu massacre by Fulani herdsmen, their collaborators and silent supporter's is unexplainable yet we want people to live and coexist with us! Only a mad man will do so without asking questions.


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Issue Number 2: Beneficiaries of the Northern Population.

The second truth we must tell ourselves is why are the Igbo's found in the remotest villages of Northern Nigeria, No one has milked the benefits of the Northern population like the Igbo nation truth be told. Unfortunately, majority of Igbo's and southerners are unwilling to accept the role of the north in developing the Igbo entrepreneurial zeal.
A vast majority of the Goods and products sold in major south eastern markets like Aba and Onitsha are not consumed in the East they end up in the north, this explains why the volume of cash inflow to the east is at its lowest during Ramadan and crisis period up North, today the Igbo's control about 70% of the core commercial activity in the North while Northerner's control less than 3 % in the Eastern region these are facts.
The Northern population has provided a training ground for many Igbo traders and their trainees who later became masters and continued their commercial exploits , data has shown that a vast majority of real estate especially in major cities in the northern Nigeria are owned by our eastern brothers and sisters thanks to a northern population that was willing to support their enterprise, but to claim the Igbo's are doing the north a favour by making money in their enclave like some have claimed is taking the insult too far .

Issue Number 3: Insensitivity to Religious Beliefs on Both sides

The complete lack of regard for the religious believe of the typical Muslim is usually the trigger for violence between the Arewa Muslim community and the Igbo nation, it is not unusual to find an Igbo man provocatively gulping a bottle of beer before a fasting Muslim neighbor without recourse to their emotions during Ramadan, the failure and outright refusal of a vast majority of the Igbo community to recognize and respect the religious beliefs of their host communities will continue to be the weakest and most lethal link in this complex relationship.

On the other hand, the insatiable appetite and perpetual quest to burn churches by arewa miscreants and few educated illiterates is another issue that has hastened the segregation of the nation along ethnic and religious lines, this is because the non-northern Christian population in the north is largely dominated by the Igbo's
Unfortunately, the political elites on both sides see this as a political weapon and often used same to whip up sentiments during elections this explains why elections in Nigeria is never based on issues of development but largely on ethnic propaganda and where you pray.

Issue Number 4: Demerits of the Biafra agitation and Arewa exit declaration.

It was Micheal Crichton who said “if you don’t know history you don't know anything, you are like a leaf who does not know it is part of a tree."
Today Puerto Rico is begging to lose its statehood and join the US as its 51st state, South Sudan the world's newest nation is currently in coma with no end in sight to the infighting for power by her political elite. It’s not about chasing people out of a land or claiming you want Biafra it’s about the huge consequences of what some of our friends are asking for...

Salient issues

A. If Biafra is granted independence as some want that will automatically transform Igbo's into foreigners in Nigeria, a nation they contributed immensely to build.

Now...
Which country in the world will allow foreigners to control 80 % of the commerce within its territory? It will be against National security to do so, except the capital of Biafra will be Abuja.

B. If Biafra secede Will the Arewa dominated "new" Nigeria allow Igbo's who by this time are non-nationals to still hold on to 70 % of the real estate which they control in the capital?

C. Many of the Nigerian flagged ships are Igbo owned, with Biafra coming into the picture they will automatically lose their privileged rights under the Cabotage laws and even go bankrupt because they automatically become foreign flagged ships with little or no expertise in foreign shipping and the huge demands

D. It will be odd to see Goods from Aba the China of Africa and Onitsha paying import duty just to cross the Niger Bridge into Asaba! ,!!! Yes that will be an export terminal if the agitation succeed, this will reduce the competitiveness of these products in terms of pricing.

E. Our current laws limits foreign equity in local banks, even Jaiz Nigeria’s only Islamic Bank has more Igbo shareholders than arewa Muslim shareholders, if that is the case imagine the Igbo shareholding and equity in traditional banks! What happens to these investments by hard working Igbo men and women? Will the law be changed overnight?

E. The Nigerian Civil service is dominated by Igbo's, comparative to their population nationally they have taken more than their fair share , will the over saturated states Eastern civil service struggling to pay salaries absorb them? How will the new nation cope with the huge number of pensioners from the east under the national payroll?

Qatar with all its huge resources powdered by gas and other petroleum resources is currently feeling the heat of the blockade by GCC nations, its only land border is with Saudi Arabia this route serves as the only link for the supply of critical resources and it is currently closed, the proposed Biafra although with some little orifices is virtually a landlocked region the Igbo man is too mobile and enterprising to be confined to a landlocked nation. Therefore those supporting Biafran agitation must avoid parochial sentiments and look at the bigger picture.

On the other hand my Arewa brothers who are banking on free crude oil money after chasing the Igbo's away must go back to the drawing board. It is sad that they fail to realize that once the South east goes, the South South will joyfully exit, and as we all know their agitation will not be as peaceful as IPOB who present themselves for practice training with live bullets by drunk officers and men of the Nigerian police and army, even the middle belt might not be willing to stay after the fragmentation and trust the highly educated Yoruba nation they have all the ingredients and capacity to start and sustain a viable new country.

As at today many of the northern states cannot sustain themselves, Benue my home state inclusive, with all the noise about food production and food basket there is widespread hunger, desperation and hopelessness in the land. The Northern healthcare system is driven by the population they want to expel, 9 out of every 10 pharmacy and chemist in the north 8 are owned by Igbo's.
The educational system in the core north is on life support thanks to Boko Haram. We have failed to properly manage the industries bequeathed to us by the late Sir Ahamadu Bello the Sardaunan Sokoto today their carcasses are scattered all over the region. If there is a time we need entrepreneur’s and investors to come to our region it is now !!!.

Many of those who have joined the band wagon of chase them away and Biafra agitation have not seen war, and some are under the influence of tramadol, alcoholic drinks and other substances which they abuse , nevertheless there are genuine agitators with sufficient grounds to call for a divorce of the marriage of 1914, they have issues which needs to be addressed, this is why I believe the decision the Buhari administration to pursue the policy of 97% and 5% as soon as he was inaugurated was the worse decision of his presidency so far.

Furthermore, the decision to completely throw away the entire recommendations of the national conference without sieving through to implement some of its nation saving recommendations is an action we will continue to regret for many years to come. With the current administration showing no regard for the constitution, court orders or the rule of Law, citizens are beginning to copy these dangerous precedents by abrogating to themselves powers which even the state does not have, as manifested by these haphazard declaration's and counter declaration which will further weaken whatever is left of the Nigerian state.

It is instructive to note that the general feeling among Nigerians who genuinely have the interest of the nation at heart is that there is an urgent need to restructure or tweak the framework of Nigerian state in order to prevent an imminent collapse and descent into lawlessness and anarchy.

Finally, just like my Eastern family my Northern family must recognized that we all need each other, No ethnic nationality can claim to know all, and no region is entirely self-sustaining as such we must stair up the Nigerian spirit of innovation and seek for ways to permanently resolve our differences, salvage our crumbling economy and preserve whatever is left of our common humanity.

May God Bless the Federal Republic Of Nigeria


Oche Joseph Otorkpa is a fellow of the Royal Society for Public health UK
And Author of the Unseen Terrorist

We are at the verge of civil war as a nation, the foreign power pushing our leaders to incite war, division and hatred all on the cover of religious and tribal differences will not be there when the killing start,take a look at countries asking for division and have experience civil war where they are today,the worst conflict are the ones bases on tribal and religious differences take a look at countries like Sierra Leone , Rwanda,Central Africa, Bosnia, sudan, to have a better knowledge please watch the movie (Hotel Rwanda). It takes years to recover from such wars and conflict,we Christians,muslim,igbo,yoruba,hausa,NDelta we all be the losers. Lets stand as one and save our Nation together because we have only one country to call ours NIGERIA.
#Prodly9ja
#Gudmorning

Jflex07:
Shut up! I am a Niger Deltan. speak for yourself.

i stand wit her am Niger deltan full blooded one and nt u who half igbo.we will nt be part of their hatred biafra was built base on hatred how many Niger deltan have u seen or standout and say yes we the Niger deltan are part of biafra guy think well b4 u start gushing out ur poo

shedybaba44:
We are at the verge of civil war as a nation, the foreign power pushing our leaders to incite war, division and hatred all on the cover of religious and tribal differences will not be there when the killing start,take a look at countries asking for division and have experience civil war where they are today,the worst conflict are the ones bases on tribal and religious differences take a look at countries like Sierra Leone , Rwanda,Central Africa, Bosnia, sudan, to have a better knowledge please watch the movie (Hotel Rwanda). It takes years to recover from such wars and conflict,we Christians,muslim,igbo,yoruba,hausa,NDelta we all be the losers. Lets stand as one and save our Nation together because we have only one country to call ours NIGERIA.
#Prodly9ja
#Gudmorning

There will be no civil war


Referendum will stand

Kyase:
it took america 170 years before it started working, just pray it doesnt take us that long

How many examples did America ve as at them to copy from?

Dey wia most likely innovators.

Here we re with examples left right and center yet we can't even correct power supply

hmbassey1960:
i stand wit her am Niger deltan full blooded one and nt u who half igbo.we will nt be part of their hatred biafra was built base on hatred how many Niger deltan have u seen or standout and say yes we the Niger deltan are part of biafra guy think well b4 u start gushing out ur poo

Ankio Briggs and Asari are more Niger Delta than you and they support Biafra

Honestly, you do not understand the great determination and strong will of the average igbo man...
If we can survive the aftermath of 1967- 16970 believe me, we will survive anything.

Moreover, think of Biafra as a consciousness, a quest for exploits and accomplishment and not just merely a geographical statement.

Nnemuka:
i stopped reading when i saw this "The complete lack of regard for the religious believe of the typical Muslim is usually the trigger for violence between the Arewa Muslim community and the Igbo nation, it is not unusual to find an Igbo man provocatively gulping a bottle of beer before a fasting Muslim neighbor without recourse to their emotions during Ramadan, the failure and outright refusal of a vast majority of the Igbo community to recognize and respect the religious beliefs of their host communities will continue to be the weakest and most lethal link in this complex relationship."

So because some set of people are fasting then others should not drink beer or may be eat again? you were making sense until i read that.
i will advise you to delete that part and think of something else to say. Its like saying people should not take their bath because its snowing in America, and Americans dont bathe during that period. mtcheww

when u respect other so will the respect ,

Jflex07:
Shut up! I am a Niger Deltan. speak for yourself.

Which part of Niger Delta?

iiiyyyk:
your write up is fine, though u lean a bit in favour of the north that I understand.

1. U know life can not be compared to any material acquisition by man. The mere fact that the life and property of an Igboman is not and might never be secured in the North, looking at current prevailing factors. This alone completely nullifies any economic benefit Igbos get from the North.

2.U didn't Mention that Igbos pay business and property/hotel taxes in those states, which help the economy of those states.

3. if Igbos withdraw their little investments in the north, the economy of those places will feel it as well.
4. who consume most of the farm produce from the North, remember we buy them, north dont give it to us for free. if they tax our products heavily, we also tax theirs.
5. Igbos will easily build another lagos in Abia, via Imo River to atlantic,
or in cross River and Akwa Ibom whom am very sure we gladly join the Igbos...Remember we are very close to central Africa, a bigger market than Lagos_ west Africa corridor.

6. what makes nations great is not natural resources, but Human capital development and financial capital, which u agree Igbos are not doing too badly in Both.

I want a restructured Nigeria, to true fiscal federalism, or back to regional(6 federating Regions) but if Fed govt persist in status quo, am afraid, Nigeria is not sustainable. therefore Biafra becomes the next viable option for all progressive minded Igbo Nation.

I tell u the truth, Biafra will be an aggressive success with freeminded Igbomen. Rather than compare Biafra with Sudan, I think u should look at countries like Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea and Singapore. the Igboman share same spirit and mindset with people from these places ....surving against all odds

all the same welldone

If it was that easy, there wouldnt be soo many igbos in lagos

hmbassey1960:
when u respect other so will the respect ,

respect is not drinking beer when a muslim who hates alcohol is fasting? shouldnt the smell chase him from the alcohol spot? what is he doing at a bar or in an environment where ppl drink bar? last i checked igbo's usually hang out at night and thats when they drink and i know fasting ends at 6p. so what is the offence?
are u saying ppl shouldnt drink beer till 30days after Ramadan?

HiddenShadow:
Ankio Briggs and Asari are more Niger Delta than you and they support Biafra

and what have contributed to our region more than blood shed the same people who want Niger deltan republic and u are saying the want to join biafra see ur sense this shows that ur prove is base on propaganda news guy go sidon u neva no anything

HiddenShadow:
Ankio Briggs and Asari are more Niger Delta than you and they support Biafra

You speak with two side of the mouth is Asari not a Muslim? No body takes Ankio seriously anymore

felixattah:
u think Akwa Ibom land is a free enclave for you people to grab? You must be the greatest idiots to feel u are the master over ibibioland.

U can make ur points without insults

hmbassey1960:
i stand wit her am Niger deltan full blooded one and nt u who half igbo.we will nt be part of their hatred biafra was built base on hatred how many Niger deltan have u seen or standout and say yes we the Niger deltan are part of biafra guy think well b4 u start gushing out ur poo

Have you not seen the new Flag?? Delta warri (excluding Asaba), Bayelsa, Rivers state and Edo state has been deleted from the Biafra map. Nna you guys are not needed anymore. you can join the North or oduduuwa republic we care less but BIAFRA will come and no stopping us.

Nnemuka:
respect is not drinking beer when a muslim who hates alcohol is fasting? shouldnt the smell chase him from the alcohol spot? what is he doing at a bar or in an environment where ppl drink bar? last i checked igbo's usually hang out at night and thats when they drink and i know fasting ends at 6p. so what is the offence?
are u saying ppl shouldnt drink beer till 30days after Ramadan?

if na america u dey now dem say make u know smoke for 30 days that they are observing one thing or the order wat will u do?

your write up is fine, though u lean a bit in favour of the north that I understand.

1. U know life can not be compared to any material acquisition by man. The mere fact that the life and property of an Igboman is not and might never be secured in the North, looking at current prevailing factors. This alone completely nullifies any economic benefit Igbos get from the North.

2.U didn't Mention that Igbos pay business and property/hotel taxes in those states, which help the economy of those states.

3. if Igbos withdraw their little investments in the north, the economy of those places will feel it as well.
4. who consume most of the farm produce from the North, remember we buy them, north dont give it to us for free. if they tax our products heavily, we also tax theirs.
5. Igbos will easily build another lagos in Abia, via Imo River to atlantic,
or in cross River and Akwa Ibom whom am very sure we gladly join the Igbos...Remember we are very close to central Africa, a bigger market than Lagos_ west Africa corridor.

6. what makes nations great is not natural resources, but Human capital development and financial capital, which u agree Igbos are not doing too badly in Both.

I want a restructured Nigeria, to true fiscal federalism, or back to regional(6 federating Regions) but if Fed govt persist in status quo, am afraid, Nigeria is not sustainable. therefore Biafra becomes the next viable option for all progressive minded Igbo Nation.
gfortune9
I tell u the truth, Biafra will be an aggressive success with freeminded Igbomen. Rather than compare Biafra with Sudan, I think u should look at countries like Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea and Singapore. the Igboman share same spirit and mindset with people from these places ....surving against all odds

all the same welldone




More power to your elbow sir,I really respect you and share the same opinion with you

iiiyyyk:
your write up is fine, though u lean a bit in favour of the north that I understand.

1. U know life can not be compared to any material acquisition by man. The mere fact that the life and property of an Igboman is not and might never be secured in the North, looking at current prevailing factors. This alone completely nullifies any economic benefit Igbos get from the North.

2.U didn't Mention that Igbos pay business and property/hotel taxes in those states, which help the economy of those states.

3. if Igbos withdraw their little investments in the north, the economy of those places will feel it as well.
4. who consume most of the farm produce from the North, remember we buy them, north dont give it to us for free. if they tax our products heavily, we also tax theirs.
5. Igbos will easily build another lagos in Abia, via Imo River to atlantic,
or in cross River and Akwa Ibom whom am very sure we gladly join the Igbos...Remember we are very close to central Africa, a bigger market than Lagos_ west Africa corridor.

6. what makes nations great is not natural resources, but Human capital development and financial capital, which u agree Igbos are not doing too badly in Both.

I want a restructured Nigeria, to true fiscal federalism, or back to regional(6 federating Regions) but if Fed govt persist in status quo, am afraid, Nigeria is not sustainable. therefore Biafra becomes the next viable option for all progressive minded Igbo Nation.

I tell u the truth, Biafra will be an aggressive success with freeminded Igbomen. Rather than compare Biafra with Sudan, I think u should look at countries like Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea and Singapore. the Igboman share same spirit and mindset with people from these places ....surving against all odds

all the same welldone

well said.......The problem is that the nortners will never allow an infidel rule them or what the Restructuring.

All these nonsense is just to distract attention from the presidents where ra about,everyone is now talking about this instead of asking about PMB.

Nnemuka:
Have you not seen the new Flag?? Delta warri (excluding Asaba), Bayelsa, Rivers state and Edo state has been deleted from the Biafra map. Nna you guys are not needed anymore. you can join the North or oduduuwa republic we care less but BIAFRA will come and no stopping us.

show us the flag!

Oxalic:
@Ochejoseph.
There are certain critical issues that are involved in the agitation by Igbos. The very first reason, as you have stated already, is the theory of 97% and 5%. This was a very unfortunate statement. Buhari shouldn't have made such a comment. The second reason, which again you have stated, is the silence of the FG over the murderous and criminal activities of Fulani herdsmen. As you have rightly pointed out in your write up, Igbos are not the only group involve in the agitation. The Middle Belt, Niger Delta and South West, are all clamouring for secession or restructuring as the case may be. The main issue is the right to life.

one thing for sure is that Naturally,an Hausa man doesnt like an igbo Man vice versa.
Buhari hatred can never be hidden as he spoke and showed it.
Dont say he has IGBOs in his govt,Those he has are Sabotuers who can sell their brother for a plate of Porriage.

Nnemuka:
Have you not seen the new Flag?? Delta warri (excluding Asaba), Bayelsa, Rivers state and Edo state has been deleted from the Biafra map. Nna you guys are not needed anymore. you can join the North or oduduuwa republic we care less but BIAFRA will come and no stopping us.

which one be delta warri again babe,am an ijaw man my mum is from akwa isong efik that is to tell am a full Niger deltan and south south

To hell with your trash

Akwa Ibom is not and will never join igbo or biafra

Have you not heard of Niger Delta Republic

iiiyyyk:
your write up is fine, though u lean a bit in favour of the north that I understand.

1. U know life can not be compared to any material acquisition by man. The mere fact that the life and property of an Igboman is not and might never be secured in the North, looking at current prevailing factors. This alone completely nullifies any economic benefit Igbos get from the North.

2.U didn't Mention that Igbos pay business and property/hotel taxes in those states, which help the economy of those states.

3. if Igbos withdraw their little investments in the north, the economy of those places will feel it as well.
4. who consume most of the farm produce from the North, remember we buy them, north dont give it to us for free. if they tax our products heavily, we also tax theirs.
5. Igbos will easily build another lagos in Abia, via Imo River to atlantic,
or in cross River and Akwa Ibom whom am very sure we gladly join the Igbos...Remember we are very close to central Africa, a bigger market than Lagos_ west Africa corridor.

6. what makes nations great is not natural resources, but Human capital development and financial capital, which u agree Igbos are not doing too badly in Both.

I want a restructured Nigeria, to true fiscal federalism, or back to regional(6 federating Regions) but if Fed govt persist in status quo, am afraid, Nigeria is not sustainable. therefore Biafra becomes the next viable option for all progressive minded Igbo Nation.

I tell u the truth, Biafra will be an aggressive success with freeminded Igbomen. Rather than compare Biafra with Sudan, I think u should look at countries like Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea and Singapore. the Igboman share same spirit and mindset with people from these places ....surving against all odds

all the same welldone

Nnemuka:
respect is not drinking beer when a muslim who hates alcohol is fasting? shouldnt the smell chase him from the alcohol spot? what is he doing at a bar or in an environment where ppl drink bar? last i checked igbo's usually hang out at night and thats when they drink and i know fasting ends at 6p. so what is the offence?
are u saying ppl shouldnt drink beer till 30days after Ramadan?

I have watched them drink Trophy in the daytime in this ongoing Ramadhan

realbest:
Mr Oche. I was also born and raise up in sokoto.To be precise mabera area growing up with many ethnic nationalities like Igbo,Yoruba,Idoma,Igala etc. I know rijiya ,filin sukuwa,gobirawa etc very well.I do agree with some of points and also disagree with some.To me , the genesis of all this problem start with Igbo's not respecting Hausa/Fulani strong belief to their religion.If only they realize importance of religion to these people many crisis could be averted .Rijiya,sahara,mabera,Bello way,tamaje,offa road,J Allen,Hajia Halima etc still remain cosmopolitan here in sokoto and I can bet anything these people are happy staying here.

I was born and breed in zaria.

As Liberal as zaria is, there is no open beer palour let more sokoto.

Igbos dnt go to Dia mosque to drink beer.

Igbos dnt go against Dia public Islamic rules.

Igbos dnt make trouble.

Those beer palours re always dominated by same ppl who placed embargo on it.