igbodefender:
Good you have exposed yourself here. the i ternet never forgets.So should we hear ny kidnap story, you will be electonically traced by law enforcement to faced justice. Igbos, please bookmark this page amd store in case it is needed.

"In view of the fact that God limited the intelligence of man, it seems unfair that He did not also limit his stupidity." — Konrad Adenauer.

This quote came to life the moment you clicked "submit"

igbodefender:
Why can't you mind your business? Have you spoken to people in the area before, and do you know their history? It's not just about hating Igbos. You can't erase certain facts. Blood is thicker than water, you know?

I didn't know the Wilcox family of Bonny were actually Igbos.

GeniusDavid:


This quote came to life the moment you clicked "submit"

You said something about capturing IPOB youths. That sounds like a crime, so, do not fear. Your statement will not hunt you in the eyes of justice if you don't do something naughty.

Unless the South South States opts for Biafra, just forget it, Biafra will not work. Geography will defeat it and beyond that, the powers that be do not want Nigeria to split because of her great geopolitical significance as a stabiliser throughout Africa. This is the reality. But let the dream go on.

But deep down many pro Biafran advocates know this hard reality, hence the clamour for those in the South South to come to the party.

GavelSlam:


I didn't know the Wilcox family of Bonny were actually Igbos.

Go and research the Jombo family, the man with whom Jaja fought. Research the Jaja family. Igbo name, Juboha.

Amarabae:
it is the ikwerres themselves that will do it when they accept wholly to be part of Igbo Nation.
You will not force them.

Lol.

I guess you mean their inclusion into Biafra and not their ancestral Igbo heritage.

Except you are saying Amechi and Wike or Odili are no longer Igbo names.?

The discourse is Indigenous people and not Nigerian geographical delineation.

I can feel the extent divide and rule policy has affected our perception of our indigenous heritage. That is wickedness to say the least!

igbodefender:
Good you have exposed yourself here. the i ternet never forgets.So should we hear ny kidnap story, you will be electonically traced by law enforcement to faced justice. Igbos, please bookmark this page amd store in case it is needed.

You are sounding like the ipob youth version of Musiwa

Danielmoore:




Who be the we rivers people una no even dey shame self,you have forgotten that it is ikwere-igbos that has been ruliling you and will continue to rule you
Still waiting for the day an ogoni man or okrika man will be governor of rivers state

Lol, attache keep waiting, the same Ikwerre ppl dat chased u from ph, no one wants to associate with u leeches stop attaching yourself

igbodefender:
Go and research the Jombo family, the man with whom Jaja fought.

This matter would make you guys lose a lot of support.

Dedetwo:


Who the hell are the Northern youth groups and some of their elders to decide where Igbo land started and ended? Who made these bloody jackasses the creator that decide who leaves or stays? Anyway, there will no referendum which is classical detraction to match toward actualization of Biafra. If Biafra could not be achieved through gentleman's approach as seen in USSR, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and India, then war is the sure way to end this insanity. No country has ever survived a second civil war in the history of earth. In the event of the second civil in Niger-Area, at least, Biafra could be actualized but certainly Nigeria will cease to exist.

Read your last line again. No realism in your postulations. Sometimes in order for one to get proper and balanced perspective on an issue it helps to put oneself in the alternative position. I presume you are a Biafran or at a sympathiser. Now for a moment, pretend that you are not a Biafran, clear your mind of the emotional bubbles and think as if you are a Nigerian. Then read what you wrote in your last paragraph. Does it answer to reality?

HarryDuce:
IKR, Always Posting falacy. He even claimed Igbos are the indigenous majority in Bonny, lol.

All these land grabbers sef.

So na Oil make them wan grab bony so o! Una go soon collect Israel too. #Igbo Jew

You see the pile of shit IPOB has dished out with this old east two-wrapper tying, tribes that start with 'I', bullshit, now you're going to be left fighting for scraps of land as non-SE Igbo do not strongly identify with the largest Igbo body, now we are renaming Bonny as if the indigenes of Bonny see themselves as Igbo, and relying on Onne which has never had anything to do with Igboland.

How are Igbo people letting these illiterates have this much voice?

igbodefender:
Why can't you mind your business? Have you spoken to people in the area before, and do you know their history? It's not just about hating Igbos. You can't erase certain facts. Blood is thicker than water, you know?

Stop it, stop this weak, ridiculous and lame approach of labelling everyone who counters your views as a hater. That's how dictators and totalitarian despots think. Igbos are reputed for their great egalitarian and independent spirit. So just answer his assertions. If you cannot then be humble enough to admit to them
or at least keep quiet. It's extremely puerile to cry 'hate, hate, hate' all the time. Are you that weak?

Noneroone:
Again, the northerners know those SS Igbos will only be happy to stay in Nigeria and answer 'SS people' so long as SE Igbos remain in Nigeria. They know that once the SS Igbos are certain that south easterners are leaving Nigeria, they will join, and when they join, be certain that many south south groups will opt to join Biafra. This is where the agitation is heading to and the north know they cant stop it, hence, their frustration.

Which SS groups, specifically, is going to join Biafra the south east?

Mujtahida:

Read your last line again. No realism in your postulations. Sometimes in order for one to get proper and balanced perspective on an issue it helps to put oneself in the alternative position. I presume you are a Biafran or at a sympathiser. Now for a moment, pretend that you are not a Biafran, clear your mind of the emotional bubbles and think as if you are a Nigerian. Then read what you wrote in your last paragraph. Does it answer to reality?

Of course, I am a Biafra's sympathizer and a student of history. It has been established in the moment of history that what complied certain individuals to support a course might not be present in second stanza. For example, One-Nigeria, a phrase coined in 1967. In today’s Nigeria, most people are wiser than in period of 1967, could not be fooled with silly One-Nigeria and certainly will not fight for such crap. Most of the factors that created the favorable outcome on Nigeria’s side are no longer obtainable today or virtually not in existence. Again, I stand by my last sentence that in an event of second civil war in Nigeria, Nigeria will cease to exist as we all know it and certainly will give rise to Biafra we have not seen before the war.

ezeagu:


Which SS groups, specifically, is going to join Biafra the south east?

dont get your question. pls be specific

Mujtahida:
[b] Unless the South South States [/b]opt for Biafra, just forget it, Biafra will not work. Geography will defeat it and beyond that, the powers that be do not want Nigeria to split because of her great geopolitical significance as a stabiliser throughout Africa. This is the reality. But let the dream go on.

Most of the so-called South-South States were the components of Biafra in 1967 yet Biafra lost. The factors that mostly militated against Biafra's ability to kick Nigeria's ass were found outside Nigeria.

Noneroone:
dont get your question. pls be specific

Which SS ethnic groups will join the south east in a new country?

laribari:


So na Oil make them wan grab bony so o! Una go soon collect Israel too. #Igbo Jew

Whatever their reasons, it doesn't matter. Someone with a rational sense of reasoning should step up to calm the tension now in their area and prevent touts from spreading half-truths and further redicule of the Igbo nation. Their tricks and brain wash tactics seems to be failing. The people are now wiser.

People might be of the same ethnic group and still not be in one nation. There are ethnic Yorubas in Nigeria, Togo and Benin, there are ethnic Germans in Germany and Austria, there are ethnic Greeks in Greece and Cyprus, Kurds in Turkey and Syria, ethnic Arabs throughout the Middle East, ethnic French in France, Switzerland and Belgium, ethnic Chinese in China, Hong Kong and Taiwan etc. So broaden your mind igbodefender. The crucial question is: beyond the Five South Eastern States are the Igboid groups part of the Biafran party to the extent that all Igboid lands(as claimed by you) become part of Biafra?

igbodefender:
Why can't you mind your business? Have you spoken to people in the area before, and do you know their history? It's not just about hating Igbos. You can't erase certain facts. Blood is thicker than water, you know?

Igbo defender please continue to defend bonny people but please remember that onne is in Ogoni land or has Ogoni also become Iboland？

HarryDuce:
Lol, the guilt is beginning to set in. what exactly are you yapping about? Hate? I don't hate anyone as you claim. Your fears are misplaced.


And BTW, you have not answered my question.

You don't hate anyone but u seemed so elated and ready to carry out abandoned property part 2?

Dedetwo:


Most of the so-called South-South States were the components of Biafra in 1967 yet Biafra lost. The factors that mostly militated against Biafra's ability to kick Nigeria's ass were found outside Nigeria.

All the States of the Southern region were formerly known as the Eastern region. Upon the declaration of Biafra, Gowon in a deft move created the Cross Rivers and Rivers States and coralled Biafra.
Mention those facts. I've always had an intellectual interest in Biafra Read about it growing up- the books written by Frederick Forsythe and Alexander Madiebo

SnowJay92:


You don't hate anyone but u seemed so elated and ready to carry out abandoned property part 2?

SnowJay92:


You don't hate anyone but u seemed so elated and ready to carry out abandoned property part 2?

Don't let your insecurities get the better of you. I can't be relaxed when some enthusiast is spreading half-truths.

Mujtahida:

All the States of the Southern region were formerly known as the Eastern region. Upon the declaration of Biafra, Gowon in a deft move created the Cross Rivers and Rivers States and coralled Biafra.

Mention those facts. I've always had an intellectual interest in Biafra Read about it growing up- the books written by Frederick Forsythe and Alexander Madiebo

It is a pity Nigeria created educational system that let most people dwell on their misguided leads. In addition to Rivers and Cross River was East Central State. However none of the states were functional until Biafra was formally defeated. Spiff, Esuene and Asika operated in Lagos as administrator. I can tell you most of Biafran brilliant field commanders are drawn from area you stated. So where is the juice?

Dedetwo:


Of course, I am a Biafra's sympathizer and a student of history. It has been established in the moment of history that what complied certain individuals to support a course might not be present in second stanza. For example, One-Nigeria, a phrase coined in 1967. In today’s Nigeria, most people are wiser than in period of 1967, could not be fooled with silly One-Nigeria and certainly will not fight for such crap. Most of the factors that created the favorable outcome on Nigeria’s side are no longer obtainable today or virtually not in existence. Again, I stand by my last sentence that in an event of second civil war in Nigeria, Nigeria will cease to exist as we all know it and certainly will give rise to Biafra we have not seen before the war.

Your knowledge of history is poor on this point :
The concept of one Nigeria was not coined in 1967. It was coined even before Independence by no less a person than Nnamdi Azikiwe
https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/my-role-in-the-civil-war-by-zik/119382.html.

I have often POSTULATED that in the event of any war, yes Nigeria MIGHT cease to exist but that's the difference between you and I. I state mine as a postulation, you state yours as a LAW, I state mine as a probability and you state yours as for certain. No! Unless you are God!

ezeagu:


Which SS ethnic groups will join the south east in a new country?

read my post well. i never argued that SS minorities will just join SE in Biafra. my arguement is simple- SS Igbos may be comfortable in a seperate region as long as SE Igbos remain in Nigeria. They know the presence of SE gives them some kind of security and removes their fear, but when it comes to an issue as permanent as independence, SE exit will trigger some sort of chain reaction. eg Asaba pple who are hardcore Biafrans will be quite vocal in demanding to join BIAFRA and when they join, the IKA will join them for sake of Anioma unity. Again, Obigbo, etche and egbema areas in Rivers are more passionate about Biafra than the rest and of a fact, you dont mean to tell me the Ikwerres will stay behind when those who have been their neighbours throughout history are joining a whole new country. i cant really predict the non Igbo SS group that will join but when PH 'falls' to Biafra, many south south minority groups who see the place as their rallying point might opt to join.The urhobo and itshekiri are off my assumption therefore idont see them joining. therefore my assumption is that the reaction will follow this pattern--SE Igbos demand to exit-- SS Igbos join them-- SS minorities demand to join SS Igbos. i never said SS minorities will expressly join SE without SS Igbos joining. but the north's fear is that SS Igbos will certainly join SE b'cos of fear.

Dedetwo:


It is a pity Nigeria created educational system that let most people dwell on their misguided leads. In addition to Rivers and Cross River was East Central State. However none of the states were functional until Biafra was formally defeated. Spiff, Esuene and Asika operated in Lagos as administrator. I can tell you most of Biafran brilliant field commanders are drawn from area you stated. So where is the juice?

You have said nothing here other than to add that East Central State was created in addition to two other states out of the old Eastern region. If you do not understand the real reasons why Gowon created those States at that point in time (27th May 1967,declaration of Biafra 30th May 1967) then I'd query the kind of student of history that you claim to be. All the other things you said regarding lagos, administration, field commanders are beside the point and have nothing to do with the reason behind the creation of those states and how it gravely affected the outcome of the war which is my main point. So stay on course and don't swerve

Moreover, I hope you know that Victor Banjo was a Yoruba man who was a top ranking Biafran as well as other yoruba men who fought on the Biafran side. How is that for your last paragraph?

Noneroone:
read my post well. i never argued that SS minorities will just join SE in Biafra. my arguement is simple- SS Igbos may be comfortable in a seperate region as long as SE Igbos remain in Nigeria. They know the presence of SE gives them some kind of security and removes their fear, but when it comes to an issue as permanent as independence, SE exit will trigger some sort of chain reaction. eg Asaba pple who are hardcore Biafrans will be quite vocal in demanding to join BIAFRA and when they join, the IKA will join them for sake of Anioma unity. Again, Obigbo, etche and egbema areas in Rivers are more passionate about Biafra than the rest and of a fact, you dont mean to tell me the Ikwerres will stay behind when those who have been their neighbours throughout history are joining a whole new country. i cant really predict the non Igbo SS group that will join but when PH 'falls' to Biafra, many south south minority groups who see the place as their rallying point might opt to join.The urhobo and itshekiri are off my assumption therefore idont see them joining. therefore my assumption is that the reaction will follow this pattern--SE Igbos demand to exit-- SS Igbos join them-- SS minorities demand to join SS Igbos. i never said SS minorities will expressly join SE without SS Igbos joining. but the north's fear is that SS Igbos will certainly join SE b'cos of fear.

As an intelligent poster said in another thread, an Igbo mind you, referendums happen once, they cost money, they won't just be popping up and down as any small city or village demands. The SE leaving will mean the SE leaving alone, when the Yugoslavia split, the ethnic communities outised of the main homeland were living behind walls, no such thing as re-referendum, look at Kosovo and Albania. The voice of the Igbo in Asaba and so on will be drowned out, there will be little they can do once a referendum has been signed and sealed, the whole debacle will not be opened again just so that Asaba can join the SE, the rest of Nigeria will make sure of that.

Port Harcourt is also a very tricky one because without any kind of Igbo consciousness among Ikwere people, Port Harcourt is gone, unless you want to go to war for Ikwere indigenous lands because of Igbo migrants.

As I've been saying, IPOB doesn't know what they are doing, I opened a thread on why the 'Biafra' movement should be centred on Igbo land and what people are realising now is exactly why that should be. Without Igbo consciousness outside of the SE you can kiss Port Harcourt and co goodbye because they will not go, the IPOB protesting there are mostly migrants, the people who occupied Igbo houses during the war still occupy them and you people are calling them Biafrans.

The idea that Kalabari or Ibibio, etc will demand to join the SE is far fetched, all of these groups are worried about Igbo domination, so why will they fall into the den of the Igbo people?

It's obvious most Igbo people do not wish to learn about their neighbours and what their neighbours think of the Igbo, because it will surprise you, not this foolish IPOB propaganda about Igwa Nga and Igala Biafrans.

ezeagu:


As an intelligent poster said in another thread, an Igbo mind you, referendums happen once, they cost money, they won't just be popping up and down as any small city or village demands. The SE leaving will mean the SE leaving alone, when the Yugoslavia split, the ethnic communities outised of the main homeland where living behind walls, no such thing as re-referendum, look at Kosovo and Albania. The voice of the Igbo in Asaba and so on will be drowned out, there will be little they can do once a referendum has been signed and sealed, the whole debacle will not be opened again just so that Asaba can join the SE, the rest of Nigeria will make sure of that.

Port Harcourt is also a very tricky one because without any kind of Igbo consciousness among Ikwere people, Port Harcourt is gone, unless you want to go to war for Ikwere indigenous lands because of Igbo migrants.

As I've been saying, IPOB doesn't know what they are doing, I opened a thread on why the 'Biafra' movement should be centred on Igbo land and what people are realising now is exactly why that should be. Without Igbo consciousness outside of the SE you can kiss Port Harcourt and co goodbye because they will not go, the IPOB protesting there are mostly migrants, the people who occupied Igbo houses during the war still occupy them and you people are calling them Biafrans.

The idea that Kalabari or Ibibio, etc will demand to join the SE is far fetched, all of these groups are worried about Igbo domination, so why will they fall into the den of the Igbo people?

It's obvious most Igbo people do not wish to learn about their neighbours and what their neighbours think of the Igbo, because it will surprise you, not this foolish IPOB propaganda about Igwa Nga and Igala Biafrans.

is like you have already made up your opinion.i never mentioned multiple referendums in my post but i only broke it down since u didnt get the first one. i clearly stated in my first post that 'once it is certain' that SE are leaving SS will go. every stage of an agitation evokes a different kind of reaction.i have made my assumption in clear terms so no need revisiting them.


lol...IPOB dont know what they are? should we wait for you to get a blueprint in year 6000

this kanu of a man was just sent to kill innocent igbo people...the sooner they realise this the better fr them.....ask ojukwu wetin happen o....we all clamour fr peace and unity....b4 I hear say my igbo friends don de fight war abeg o!