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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by Nobody: 6:57pm On Jun 22, 2017
nengibo:

Yes na, dats why an Amanyanabo & his Alaapu council are overseeing the "igbo town", na we Rivers people dey allow this nonsense, if not why will u sell land to igbos who clearly have alterior motives



Who be the we rivers people una no even dey shame self,you have forgotten that it is ikwere-igbos that has been ruliling you and will continue to rule you
Still waiting for the day an ogoni man or okrika man will be governor of rivers state

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by modik(m): 6:59pm On Jun 22, 2017
Noneroone:
op i appreciate your concern. we Igbos should be vigilant and smarter than our enemies. that is their fear, kwankwaso said the land held by Igbos in kano is bigger than south east, masari of katsina said that if the referendum is conducted it will only take place in the south east and northern youths even called for declaration of south east as Biafra. They are are only mentioning South east out of frustration and to suppress their fear- a historic fear for a pan Igbo nationalist consciousness that will come with the Biafran agitation.

That is why they want to agitation to go through the senate in order to reduce it to a south east geo political affair 'cos they know only south eastern senators can be bold to demand for it in the senate as a result of nigerian geopolitical stereotype which equates Igbo to South east, and with that they can retain the rest of Igboland outside southeast in their nigeria. their two greatest frustrations is the fact that we are in a democracy and the civil and referendum method adopted by ipob. under military they were able to use the opportunity offered by the civil war to commit atrocies and restructure the country to their perfect taste, ceding the two principally Igbo provinces of ahaoada and port harcourt to rivers and adding Obigbo in 1976.Now such unilateral decision can no longer apply in case of Biafran referendum under democratic dispensation.

Again, the northerners know those SS Igbos will only be happy to stay in Nigeria and answer 'SS people' so long as SE Igbos remain in Nigeria. They know that once the SS Igbos are certain that south easterners are leaving Nigeria, they will join, and when they join, be certain that many south south groups will opt to join Biafra. This is where the agitation is heading to and the north know they cant stop it, hence, their frustration.


Well said.

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by Nobody: 7:00pm On Jun 22, 2017
Nyesom wike
Rotimi amaechi
Peter odili
Are from which tribe please

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by HopeAtHand: 7:01pm On Jun 22, 2017
Keke driver, drop me here.. I smell prospects.. grin

@OP, what is Igwe nga? .. also why are the Igbos now scared of leaving Nigeria. help us and leave, surely Rivers state will follow. We are tired of Hausa's enjoying our Oyel money.

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by Nobody: 7:05pm On Jun 22, 2017
Noneroone:
op i appreciate your concern. we Igbos should be vigilant and smarter than our enemies. that is their fear, kwankwaso said the land held by Igbos in kano is bigger than south east, masari of katsina said that if the referendum is conducted it will only take place in the south east and northern youths even called for declaration of south east as Biafra. They are are only mentioning South east out of frustration and to suppress their fear- a historic fear for a pan Igbo nationalist consciousness that will come with the Biafran agitation.

That is why they want to agitation to go through the senate in order to reduce it to a south east geo political affair 'cos they know only south eastern senators can be bold to demand for it in the senate as a result of nigerian geopolitical stereotype which equates Igbo to South east, and with that they can retain the rest of Igboland outside southeast in their nigeria. their two greatest frustrations is the fact that we are in a democracy and the civil and referendum method adopted by ipob. under military they were able to use the opportunity offered by the civil war to commit atrocies and restructure the country to their perfect taste, ceding the two principally Igbo provinces of ahaoada and port harcourt to rivers and adding Obigbo in 1976.Now such unilateral decision can no longer apply in case of Biafran referendum under democratic dispensation.

Again, the northerners know those SS Igbos will only be happy to stay in Nigeria and answer 'SS people' so long as SE Igbos remain in Nigeria. They know that once the SS Igbos are certain that south easterners are leaving Nigeria, they will join, and when they join, be certain that many south south groups will opt to join Biafra. This is where the agitation is heading to and the north know they cant stop it, hence, their frustration.
Thank you for pointing out some things we didn't know on here. We Igbos should think strategically, and share all this knowledge. Our enemies are always plotting against us.

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by GavelSlam: 7:06pm On Jun 22, 2017
Please who is the igwe 1 of Bonny autonomous community ?

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by seanet02: 7:08pm On Jun 22, 2017
kingzizzy:


And Im telling you that a SE referendum cannot be forced because neither the SE or the SS exist in Nigerian law. What is recognised in the Nigerian constitution is Igbo, not SE or SS. So if a referendum is held just for Igbos, it will be in the congregation of wards that identify as Igbo. Wards and Igbo are recognised in Nigerian law, SS and SE are not.
Mention one single part of the constitution where Igbo was mentioned?

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by Nobody: 7:09pm On Jun 22, 2017
GavelSlam:
Please who is the igwe 1 of Bonny autonomous community ?
Thread not for you. Keep moving.
Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by GeniusDavid(m): 7:11pm On Jun 22, 2017
On behalf of Onne people, we are not among you. kindly carry your problem to The Ikwerres.

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by GeniusDavid(m): 7:12pm On Jun 22, 2017
GavelSlam:
Please who is the igwe 1 of Bonny autonomous community ?
High Father Nnamdi Kanu grin grin

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by modik(m): 7:21pm On Jun 22, 2017
Danielmoore:
Nyesom wike
Rotimi amaechi
Peter odili
Are from which tribe please


They are all Igbos.

So said Amechi.
https://www.nairaland.com/3867456/drama-between-senator-enyinnaya-abaribe#57609486

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by TheKingdom: 7:21pm On Jun 22, 2017
In the 9 states of the former eastern region and the two states of the former midwest, that is, 11 states, at least 10 of them will vote for Biafra over the Nig.ga Area any day any time (despite Yoruba forming "we from south south don't blah blah").

Edo state would be a toss up

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by victorvezx(m): 7:25pm On Jun 22, 2017
Noneroone:
[s]op i appreciate your concern. we Igbos should be vigilant and smarter than our enemies. that is their fear, kwankwaso said the land held by Igbos in kano is bigger than south east, masari of katsina said that if the referendum is conducted it will only take place in the south east and northern youths even called for declaration of south east as Biafra. They are are only mentioning South east out of frustration and to suppress their fear- a historic fear for a pan Igbo nationalist consciousness that will come with the Biafran agitation.

That is why they want to agitation to go through the senate in order to reduce it to a south east geo political affair 'cos they know only south eastern senators can be bold to demand for it in the senate as a result of nigerian geopolitical stereotype which equates Igbo to South east, and with that they can retain the rest of Igboland outside southeast in their nigeria. their two greatest frustrations is the fact that we are in a democracy and the civil and referendum method adopted by ipob. under military they were able to use the opportunity offered by the civil war to commit atrocies and restructure the country to their perfect taste, ceding the two principally Igbo provinces of ahaoada and port harcourt to rivers and adding Obigbo in 1976.Now such unilateral decision can no longer apply in case of Biafran referendum under democratic dispensation.

Again, the northerners know those SS Igbos will only be happy to stay in Nigeria and answer 'SS people' so long as SE Igbos remain in Nigeria. They know that once the SS Igbos are certain that south easterners are leaving Nigeria, they will join, and when they join, be certain that many south south groups will opt to join Biafra. This is where the agitation is heading to and the north know they cant stop it, hence, their frustration. [/s]
I can sense ur fear from far away, the fear of Biafra being only the 5 south east states and landlocked. I sense the fear that u know u can't take any part of the south south except through war, which u know u will loose. U are just sounding tough, but deep down, u are afraid

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by modik(m): 7:29pm On Jun 22, 2017
victorvezx:

I can sense ur fear from far away, the fear of Biafra being only the 5 south east states and landlocked. I sense the fear that u know u can't take any part of the south south except through war, which u know u will loose. U are just sounding tough, but deep down, u are afraid
Must you respond?

Tune in to Kubanji Direct 102.3fm and hear wise/informed discussion now.

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by Nobody: 7:30pm On Jun 22, 2017
GeniusDavid:

High Father Nnamdi Kanu grin grin
Go find something to do,. Have you done your homework?

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by victorvezx(m): 7:31pm On Jun 22, 2017
modik:
Must you respond?
Tune in to Kubanji Direct 102.3fm and hear wise discussion now.


Fvck outta here boy

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by anibi9674: 7:33pm On Jun 22, 2017
igbodefender:
Then, what is it? Lagos is Eko, Port Harcourt is Igwe Ocha. What is the traditional name for Bonny?
the traditional name for Bonny is called okolo- ama. Igwenga is presently ikot abasi in akwa ibom .

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by modik(m): 7:35pm On Jun 22, 2017
victorvezx:

Fvck outta here boy

@ the enboldened

I skip cos this is faceless forum. Your choice of language speaks volume.


.....This is the last response you would get from me. "I don't waste words on those who deserve my silence"

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by anibi9674: 7:36pm On Jun 22, 2017
igbodefender:
Then, what is it? Lagos is Eko, Port Harcourt is Igwe Ocha. What is the traditional name for Bonny?
Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by Amarabae(f): 7:40pm On Jun 22, 2017
Bonny is ijaw territory,
Onne is Ogoni property.
Port harcourt is Ikwerre city.
IPOB stop attracting unnecessary insult to Igbos pls.
For now, ikwerre is not yet integrated fully into Igbo Nation, lets give them space.

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by modik(m): 7:46pm On Jun 22, 2017
Amarabae:
Bonny is ijaw territory,
Onne is Ogoni property.
Port harcourt is Ikwerre city.
IPOB stop attracting unnecessary insult to Igbos pls.
For now, ikwerre is not yet integrated fully into Igbo Nation , lets give them space.

Are you trying to re-invent the wheel while being economical with the truth?

Please enlighten me, Who would do the integration?.....Nigeria??

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by vicadex07(m): 7:48pm On Jun 22, 2017
All these u are saying would be basis for war. Its either u ignore the niger delta totally or be ready ton contest for it wit nigeria and its colonial supporters
Hopeful20100:
OP...nice one. I assure Nnamdi Kanu's led Biafraa will never allow that. People...Northerners and Yorubaas don't realize the sheer magnitude of support for Biafraa in their imaginary SS or Niger Delta. I pity this people and their lunacy...referendum will shock them. Nnamdi Kanu's message has penetrated every crevices of so-called SS or Niger Delta. Go on YouTube and see thousands of so-called SS visiting Nnamdi Kanu.

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by GavelSlam: 7:50pm On Jun 22, 2017
igbodefender:
Thread not for you. Keep moving.

I can contribute to any thread on Nairaland I so desire.

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by GeniusDavid(m): 7:50pm On Jun 22, 2017
igbodefender:
Go find something to do,. Have you done your homework?
How to capture IPOB Youths grin

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by Nobody: 7:51pm On Jun 22, 2017
modik:


Are you trying to re-invent the wheel while being economical with the truth?

Please enlighten me, Who would do the integration?.....Nigeria??
The tried to divide Igbos into 2 regions seeking to weaken us, but truth trampled to the ground will rise again.

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by Amarabae(f): 7:53pm On Jun 22, 2017
modik:


Are you trying to re-invent the wheel while being economical with the truth?

Please enlighten me, Who would do the integration?.....Nigeria??
it is the ikwerres themselves that will do it when they accept wholly to be part of Igbo Nation.
You will not force them.

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by Nobody: 7:55pm On Jun 22, 2017
GeniusDavid:

How to capture IPOB Youths grin
Good you have exposed yourself here. the i ternet never forgets.So should we hear ny kidnap story, you will be electonically traced by law enforcement to faced justice. Igbos, please bookmark this page amd store in case it is needed.

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by Dedetwo(m): 8:00pm On Jun 22, 2017
HopeAtHand:
Keke driver, drop me here.. I smell prospects.. grin

@OP, what is Igwe nga? .. also why are the Igbos now scared of leaving Nigeria. help us and leave, surely Rivers state will follow. We are tired of Hausa's enjoying our Oyel money.

There is no third party that can decide where Igbo land started and ended. Biafra referendum should be a participatory exercise limited to Igbo ethnic nationality, the people of the defunct eastern region of Nigeria and people who have decided to join the union called Biafra.

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by Dedetwo(m): 8:08pm On Jun 22, 2017
igbodefender:
Prince Charles Offokaja
If you read between the lines of what some Northern youth groups and some of their elders have been saying, you will notice that their grand design is to isolate the South East Igbos from the South South Igbos and cut a South East independent Biafra off from access to the sea, then impose crippling export duties, trade, travel and emigration restrictions on it. In their recent letter to Acting President Osinbajo, the youths stated:

“The Igbo from all over the country and in the Diaspora should be advised to converge in their region in the South-East – notice they did not add South South where Igbo Land has Asaba, as well as the ports of Port Harcourt (Igwe Ocha), Onne, and Bonny (Igwe Ngaa) – for a plebiscite to be organized and conducted by the United Nations and other regional bodies for them to categorically to decide between remaining part of Nigeria or having their separate country. That government should at the end of the plebiscite implement whatever is agreed and resolved in order to finally put this matter to rest.

“Lastly, we pray His Excellency to study the references forwarded with this letter dispassionately and decide who is more in the wrong between those who openly pledge allegiance to a country other than Nigeria backing it up with persistent threats of war and those of us whose allegiance remains with the Nigerian state but simply urge that the secessionists be allowed to actualize their dream peacefully throw universally entrenched democratic options”.

Unfavourable Customs Union
If the South East allows itself to be deceived, the trade marginalization that they will impose will be worse than any marginalization of Igbo traders currently, because such a landlocked new country carved out from only South East will depend on Nigeria for every item they import or export. If the economy of such new country is growing, some people can just sit down in Abuja and decide to impose punishing tariffs on certain goods, making your goods too expensive in the international market, sabotaging all your efforts.

Ojukwu would turn in his grave if that kind of Biafra emerges- his idea was a Biafra with access to the sea, not a Biafra surrounded by a mighty enemy willing and able to squeeze it to death. In such a country, Igbo foreign investors will be deported at will from Lagos, and you cannot sue the Governor as you sued Fashola because he will say you are foreign imigrants, not bonafide citizens of his country.

The government of such new country would not dare make too much noise because if they annoy the Nigerian government, it can close the borders, and your people won’t be able to import anything until you beg for forgiveness (how humiliating). If you use your advanced military to invade, foreign powers that hate Igbo excellence will pounce on that and say you are invading a sovereign country and treat you how they treated Saddam when he invaded Kuwait. They wouldn’t mind imposing a permanent peacekeeping force (made up of the Nigerian Army), ‘to keep your government from invading any sovereign country again’. Would that be true independence?

Currently, South East based Igbo traders can use their constitutional right as citizens of Nigeria to import and export goods freely from Lagos or Port Harcourt ports and their enemies can’t stop them. Currently, Igbo entrepreneurs can move to Lagos or any part of Nigeria and set up, because they are citizens. But if you hold the kind of referendum that they are dangling before you, they are sure to insist that ‘only the Igbos of the South East are Igbos’, and only them should participate.

Any new country that will emerge from such will be an enclave surrounded entirely by an enemy nation willing to suffocate it. They will deport many of Igbos there, and starve the new country of funds to employ them. They will impose trading quotas or high tariffs to control the Igbo mainstay of trading. Before you know it, tempers may rise within such an enclave, and some world powers that hate Ndigbo in the UN will then ask Nigeria to send in peacekeepers into the surrounded Biafra on a permanent basis. You would have lost your independence, because it would only exist on paper.

Conclusion
Igbos should ignore this ‘referendum gift’ and remain in Nigeria and fight for their rights, because Biafra without Igbo ports of Port Harcourt (Igwe Ocha), Onne, or Bonny (Igwe Ngaa), would not be viable, and enemies of the Igbo will laugh. They will come on forums like Nairaland to mock you mercilessly.

If you chose to agitate legally, which is your right (I for one believe we should give Nigeria another chance), then, agitate democratically and make sure you gain at least a port for the country you want. If for any reason you can’t do that, better remain in this house that Zik built (where you have 5-7 Igbo controlled states in SE and SS and give Nigeria a chance to succeed.

Source: http://www.igbodefender.com/2017/06/22/port-harcourt-bonny-onne-ports-at-stake-if-igbos-chose-biafra-referendum/#more-559

Who the hell are the Northern youth groups and some of their elders to decide where Igbo land started and ended? Who made these bloody jackasses the creator that decide who leaves or stays? Anyway, there will no referendum which is classical detraction to match toward actualization of Biafra. If Biafra could not be achieved through gentleman's approach as seen in USSR, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and India, then war is the sure way to end this insanity. No country has ever survived a second civil war in the history of earth. In the event of the second civil in Niger-Area, at least, Biafra could be actualized but certainly Nigeria will cease to exist.

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by greenmonk: 8:12pm On Jun 22, 2017
igbodefender:
Majority of Bonny's indigenes (not settlers o) are Igbo. The first Igbo language bible was wtitten in Bonny Igbo. If you think you can collect Bonny from Igbo, you are a great joker.
The bible I am reading is written in English so I am an English man.
Why cant you allow bonny people to tell us who they are. Have you hesrd of the tribe or language called Igbani. You people should stop turning history upside down.

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by Nobody: 8:19pm On Jun 22, 2017
greenmonk:

The bible I am reading is written in English so I am an English man.
Why cant you allow bonny people to tell us who they are. Have you hesrd of the tribe or language called Igbani. You people should stop turning history upside down.
Why can't you mind your business? Have you spoken to people in the area before, and do you know their history? It's not just about hating Igbos. You can't erase certain facts. Blood is thicker than water, you know?

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Re: Port Harcourt, Bonny Ports At Stake If Igbos Choose Biafra Referendum by freshest4live: 8:25pm On Jun 22, 2017
Dedetwo:


Who the hell are the Northern youth groups and some of their elders to decide where Igbo land started and ended? Who made these bloody jackasses the creator that decide who leaves or stays? Anyway, there will no referendum which is classical detraction to match toward actualization of Biafra. If Biafra could not be achieved through gentleman's approach as seen in USSR, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and India, then war is the sure way to end this insanity. No country has ever survived a second civil war in the history of earth. In the event of the second civil in Niger-Area, at least, Biafra could be actualized but certainly Nigeria will cease to exist.
Have you held a gun before?

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