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"You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn - Christianity Etc (8) - Nairaland

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Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by 9japride(m): 6:53pm On Jun 30, 2017
shumuel:
i know, but if they had put the church's funds to good/right use, we wont even be bothered even if the 666Beast should show up now.
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U r right but that's another wahala for another day. Most of the men of God themselves focus too much on money rather they should help the less privileged members. U have a point, but the issue at hand needs to be addressed
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by happney65: 6:56pm On Jun 30, 2017
omolola15:
smiley
Why are you laughing my friend?I guess if it was the other way round you know what you muslims would have done?You would have started killing people and burning other people places of worship..Isnt it?Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by richeso: 7:08pm On Jun 30, 2017
amclimax:
All I know is Islamabad.... Before you quote me know this .... All Muslim are not terrorist but all terrorists are Muslim
"All Muslim are not terrorist but all terrorists are Muslim"


HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHA...... OMG HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by hadaydhollarpo(m): 7:22pm On Jun 30, 2017
Arian11:
there was a press release on this now ..they said they weren't scraping anything

so why would he still come out and say something ...
are you backing the govt who knew where they were going? PFN gatto stand their ground before they systematically islamized Naija by the herdsmen killings.
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by CioAngels(f): 7:34pm On Jun 30, 2017
This is why Arabian kings suddenly started visiting Nigeria and donating gates to buy off Nigerian muslims. It is sad if to islamise Nigeria is only the reasons pa buhari fought to rule Nigeria. The igbos says they wont be amongst those to learn arabic so let them go so that those of our leaders who are only corncerned about stealing will donate their children to learn arabic.
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Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by lfleak: 7:46pm On Jun 30, 2017
Temysteve:
The bible says ''Do NOT love the world or the things in the world'' if you stay true to what you believe in, you won't contradict your religion.
language is not equal to religion
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by Nobody: 7:58pm On Jun 30, 2017
Dotng:
If you have read through the text book on Religion and National Values, you would understand their agitation. Obviously, you have not. You are still on the surface of the matter.
A child of Christian parents will be in possession of a book on Religion and National Values where after studying CRS will on his own read from the next section of the book on Islamic Studies where it says that you are TO DISOBEY HIS PARENTS if they don't allow him to convert to Islam and also everything Christians hold dear about Jesus Christ is bastardized and watered-down and you expect the parents to allow such to stand? There is no how an attack on Christian foundation will be allowed. Those who made this proposal are simply crazy.
You simply wrote nonsense with loads of emotions.
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by shumuel(m): 7:59pm On Jun 30, 2017
9japride:
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U r right but that's another wahala for another day. Most of the men of God themselves focus too much on money rather they should help the less privileged members. U have a point, but the issue at hand needs to be addressed
Yes, of course i know, i guess the only solution is to crap all religion studies in schools and leave it to the churches and mosque to do the teachings.
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by Nobody: 8:55pm On Jun 30, 2017
factwriter:
Of your over Two Hundred Nigerian languages (aside Hausa which happens to be the most widely spoken in Africa) which other have you or your government ever DEVELOPED to a point of being accepted as a SECOND OFFICIAL national languagehuh

You are a nothing but a backward fool. frustration is killing you while your religious faith is yet to avail you.

What indigenous socio economy, cultural or religious affiliation does Nigeria have with Chines and Germanyhuh

Notable world media houses like VOA, BBC, VON, DEUSCHE WELLE , and several others all have HAUSA broadcast service, a language which derived significant percentage of her vocabulary from the Arabic Language.

Are these not the same people (Above mentioned countries) who sold you that crap that some carpenter son in far away Middle East Isreal died so all your atrocities can be forgivenhuh


When some clueless Nigerian president was kneeling down for Oyedepo and Adeboye why didn't these (god of men) agitate for reintroduction of CRK then?

They were busy with lining their pockets with contracts instead.

Nothing in this world, infact nothing in this entire blistering universe can change this settings, NOTHING.

5%ters will forever remain 5%ters while the ELEVEN CORE NORTHERN MUSLIM STATES are here to rule forever.

Live with that or go berserk... I careless.
Firstly, Swahili is the most widely spoken language in Africa. Secondly, Hausa has never been DEVELOPED to a point of being accepted as second official language in Nigeria. Though anybody can post anything online, the intellectual capacity & level of exposure of the writer will always show, that also depends on the quality of & intellect of the reader.

Pidgin English is widely spoken in Niger delta area of Nigeria & widely known in most developed English Speaking countries as a native English in part of Nigeria. You cannot tell a Yoruba man in South West or an Urhobo or Ijaw man in Warri that you are developing hausa as a second official language. Development of a language has processes. South Africa is an example of where a language is developed aside English. Those in Abuja & other part of North may take it as a second language because it is the native language there. That is not possible in Lagos or Warri or Yenagoa. The only difference is that you may be forced to learn hausa in the north for ease of communication especially with non educated people (ba turechi).

International media may choose literacy & population to air programs in particular language. In regions where you have Arabic scholars & nomadic population who are not educated across many countries, local language may be used. This does not attach any importance to the language. I remember some years ago, French PM walked out of an EU meeting because the protest letter written in French by a Frenchman was read in English. The EU commission had taken the population of members that understand English into consideration by reading the letter in English.

I think this is where the problem lies in the north. they should not impose IRS or Arabic on Christians. CRK , IRS or Arabic should be by choice & not by force.
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by factwriter(m): 10:53pm On Jun 30, 2017
babaolofin:
Firstly, Swahili is the most widely spoken language in Africa. Secondly, Hausa has never been DEVELOPED to a point of being accepted as second official language in Nigeria. Though anybody can post anything online, the intellectual capacity & level of exposure of the writer will always show, that also depends on the quality of & intellect of the reader.

Pidgin English is widely spoken in Niger delta area of Nigeria & widely known in most developed English Speaking countries as a native English in part of Nigeria. You cannot tell a Yoruba man in South West or an Urhobo or Ijaw man in Warri that you are developing hausa as a second official language. Development of a language has processes. South Africa is an example of where a language is developed aside English. Those in Abuja & other part of North may take it as a second language because it is the native language there. That is not possible in Lagos or Warri or Yenagoa. The only difference is that you may be forced to learn hausa in the north for ease of communication especially with non educated people (ba turechi).

International media may choose literacy & population to air programs in particular language. In regions where you have Arabic scholars & nomadic population who are not educated across many countries, local language may be used. This does not attach any importance to the language. I remember some years ago, French PM walked out of an EU meeting because the protest letter written in French by a Frenchman was read in English. The EU commission had taken the population of members that understand English into consideration by reading the letter in English.

I think this is where the problem lies in the north. they should not impose IRS or Arabic on Christians. CRK , IRS or Arabic should be by choice & not by force.
If you can read something scribbled in HAUSA language (or Arabic or French or well, English language too - of course), it simply means you are educated. that is, you have formal educational learning.

So the issue of "ba turenchi" has nothing to do with illiteracy. It simply means "I don't speak English"...

...a phrase i have heard repeatedly during my Peregrine days (as a teenager wanting to see the world) in Spain, Cairo, Cotouno and some other parts of the globe where the only additional response I get when I utter a statement in English language is an ear-to-ear grin.

Those reputable international radio stations I listed were broadcasting to a legible listeners. Not understanding the ENGLISH LANGUAGE does not make you an illiterate.
please I know you know that.

Please let's not be bias in our agitations. Don't back a legitimate claim with false evidence.
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by rhames(m): 11:11pm On Jun 30, 2017
These pastors use the media ro ggain sympathy all the time while they dont practice what they preach. I think they should come down to Kaduna where the parents of Muslim pupils at Baptist Primary School Kaduna were made to sign undertakings for their wards to compulsorily take CRS as a course on admission to the school. Qoure me Rhames
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by ezigr8(m): 11:17pm On Jun 30, 2017
why should this create a fuse? most persons that study religious studies here in the south studied both the Christian religion and Islamic religion as well as African traditional religion.


Both ethnic and religious sentiment has so much blinded our reasoning.


These so called men of God takes advantage of our shallow understanding.

The reason Africa can't move forward is because we are always subjective in our reasoning and argument
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by 9japride(m): 11:32pm On Jun 30, 2017
shumuel:
Yes, of course i know, i guess the only solution is to crap all religion studies in schools and leave it to the churches and mosque to do the teachings.
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That's a very good idea. We claim to be religious but our attitude is messed up, I believe the religious centres can handle the teaching. But I doubt if such good plan will be implemented soonest
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by Stinson007(m): 12:03am On Jul 01, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
Does it make any sense to Introduce Arabic studies in Nigerian educational system when we still have over 200 languages that we are yet to study? Is Arabic a language that is productive? How has Arabic improved the backward Arab world? Don't get me wrong, but the development in Qatar, Dubai and UAE are all done by white men whose language supports construction and Development. Arabic language is only in line with Islam.

Since we all know that Arabic is the language of Islam, why didn't they create an option that allows the study of Jewish or Greek languages which are in line with Christianity? No, they wont cos their aim is to systematically islamize Nigeria, a thing that will fail.

Arabic language adds no value to one's life other than being able to read the terror manual called Quran. Aren't they satisfied with their. issues and madrassahs that they now want to start corrupting the children of the Living God with a barbaric ideology?

If you are a Christian and you don't speak against this, i wonder if you think you and your children will be able to they devilishly sneak in Sharia law.

We reject Islam and Arabic language
I like this but am an atheist, Am totally against all religious practices
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by Sexina851(f): 12:42am On Jul 01, 2017
Evaberry:
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people are talking and that fraudster oyedepoo is talking

wow after robbing your sheeples u still come here to say trash
Madam we done hear am tire, so pls say something more sensible abeg.
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by Kingspin(m): 5:37am On Jul 01, 2017
ollah1:
Well, a certain man was gonna blow up his own church in Benin sometime ago. I don't recall calling him names
Islamik poo should leave other religion alone. Why is Islam useful in UAE and other Muslims countries. But wasteful in Nigeria. Ismaki is more satanic for Nigeria it only contribution is killing and killing innocent people. Islamik is
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by Kingspin(m): 5:41am On Jul 01, 2017
ollah1:
Well, a certain man was gonna blow up his own church in Benin sometime ago. I don't recall calling him names
Islamik poo should leave other religion alone. Why is Islam useful in UAE and other Muslims countries. But wasteful in Nigeria. Islamki is satanic for Nigeria peace it only contribution is killing and killing innocent people. Islamik remain useless in Nigeria. They eat and drink hate because they of no use to human existence. Removing CRK and bringing in IRK did I tell them I want to go for bombing mission? Rather than moving their people above poverty line they wouldn't do that but instead choose to remain useless for life with Islamik bullshit. Wow unto them all. Curse be with them.
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by shumuel(m): 9:07am On Jul 01, 2017
9japride:
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That's a very good idea. We claim to be religious but our attitude is messed up, I believe the religious centres can handle the teaching. But I doubt if such good plan will be implemented soonest
It's the easiest solution bro, we all attend Sunday schools, move from a class to another as we grew, even further to higher level like that of Wofbi; the BCC, LCC and LDC are even equivalent to SSCE, Diplomas in Theology,, and the same goes for muslims too; they attend Arabic schools; Ile-kewu and graduate from it, do their Wolimo and become Alfas, we would only need to give more attention to it in the religious houses, infact make it complusory, rather than voluntary, and we are good,, before any christian child clocks 25, he or she would even have had an equivalence of Masters in theology and can always use that to search for jobs, just like the muslims do in the North, most of them don't really have any basic education but they use their religious Certificate, tender it in any organisation and they get employed, it is only our Christian leaders that is punishing us here in the south.
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by Nobody: 10:07am On Jul 01, 2017
Kingspin:
Islamik poo should leave other religion alone. Why is Islam useful in UAE and other Muslims countries. But wasteful in Nigeria. Islamki is satanic for Nigeria peace it only contribution is killing and killing innocent people. Islamik remain useless in Nigeria. They eat and drink hate because they of no use to human existence. Removing CRK and bringing in IRK did I tell them I want to go for bombing mission? Rather than moving their people above poverty line they wouldn't do that but instead choose to remain useless for life with Islamik bullshit. Wow unto them all. Curse be with them.
I don't have discussions with braindead bigots
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by Joe82834(m): 11:22am On Jul 01, 2017
MadCow1:
The Nigerian constitution recognises Sharia law
U still didn't answer my question. Sharia law is an Islamic law .So y should if affect me, a Nigerian who isn't Muslim. There are things I can do as a Nigerian in many southern states and be free buy try it in Zandra, you are I serious trouble. Last I check, isn't Nigeria a secular country. Just look at it properly with a clearind n see my point
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by MadCow1: 11:57am On Jul 01, 2017
Joe82834:
U still didn't answer my question. Sharia law is an Islamic law .So y should if affect me, a Nigerian who isn't Muslim. There are things I can do as a Nigerian in many southern states and be free buy try it in Zandra, you are I serious trouble. Last I check, isn't Nigeria a secular country. Just look at it properly with a clearind n see my point
I get your point.. But here is the beauty of life. In the United States for example, I cam smoke weed in Colorado be caught by the police with weed and not go to jail. But if I try dame in Texas, I will be in jail for possession with intent to distribute and they may even bring federal charges against me depending on the quantity. But both states are in the United States. Zamfara are well within their rights to choose their state laws. My advise is "when in Zamfara, do like the Zamfarans". If you are in Saudi or Dubai, you abide by their rules don't you?

Hence my call for a general education of some of these really important aspects of our lives.
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by Nobody: 1:12pm On Jul 01, 2017
Arian11:
there was a press release on this now ..they said they weren't scraping anything

so why would he still come out and say something ...
Only an alterior motive can make them want to merge IRK n CRK.

There's absolutely. no need to merge them.
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by 9japride(m): 1:55pm On Jul 01, 2017
shumuel:
It's the easiest solution bro, we all attend Sunday schools, move from a class to another as we grew, even further to higher level like that of Wofbi; the BCC, LCC and LDC are even equivalent to SSCE, Diplomas in Theology,, and the same goes for muslims too; they attend Arabic schools; Ile-kewu and graduate from it, do their Wolimo and become Alfas, we would only need to give more attention to it in the religious houses, infact make it complusory, rather than voluntary, and we are good,, before any christian child clocks 25, he or she would even have had an equivalence of Masters in theology and can always use that to search for jobs, just like the muslims do in the North, most of them don't really have any basic education but they use their religious Certificate, tender it in any organisation and they get employed, it is only our Christian leaders that is punishing us here in the south.
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Your idea makes a lot of sense. That certificate stuff to b given by religious bodies it's a good one. The major issue in Nigeria is politics. Why? Because some people in position of power tend to use their influence to propagate their religion. Humans generally are a very dangerous weapon causing a lot of problems in the world today and many of them hide under religion too. It will b best if you communicate to the various agencies and organisations concerned with reglious studies for them to key into ur concept. As I said earlier it will take a very long time before majority of Nigerians will key into your concept. We still dey form infant and backwardness for our reasoning. Me I quickly get tired of addressing various ills online these days. Our youths needs mental upgrade
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by Kingspin(m): 2:40pm On Jul 01, 2017
ollah1:
I don't have discussions with braindead bigots
Islamik should re-brand themselves like Dubai is doing and today they are enjoying the country. If Kano develop heaven wont fall. I just think that Muslims should focus on development and stop this circle of madness over religion. All of us cannot be Muslim or killer. Religion cannot bring u food. Let them keep their religion extremist to themselves alone and stop been yearly waste in Nigeria. I will be happy for them.
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by shumuel(m): 6:06pm On Jul 01, 2017
9japride:
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Your idea makes a lot of sense. That certificate stuff to b given by religious bodies it's a good one. The major issue in Nigeria is politics. Why? Because some people in position of power tend to use their influence to propagate their religion. Humans generally are a very dangerous weapon causing a lot of problems in the world today and many of them hide under religion too. It will b best if you communicate to the various agencies and organisations concerned with reglious studies for them to key into ur concept. As I said earlier it will take a very long time before majority of Nigerians will key into your concept. We still dey form infant and backwardness for our reasoning. Me I quickly get tired of addressing various ills online these days. Our youths needs mental upgrade
Honestly, the need the kind of Army man slap to reset their brains to proper functions.

Well we would try our best to pass the message across and hope they accept it, we only pray for the future of this country.
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by 9japride(m): 6:16pm On Jul 01, 2017
shumuel:
Honestly, the need the kind of Army man slap to reset their brains to proper functions.

Well we would try our best to pass the message across and hope they accept it, we only pray for the future of this country.
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Yea they all need factory resetting. That's it, prayer and enlightenment is the key to re-orientation of our youths and even elders alike
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by DaBillionnaire: 6:49pm On Jul 01, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
What value has it added to the world other than. terrorism?
U see yasef?
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by olaoreawofele: 10:35am On Jul 02, 2017
The IRA are Muslims right? The Norwegian that gun down scores years ago is also a Muslim? The dude who drove a bus into Muslim in London last month is also a Muslim? May God heal you of your biases.

richeso:
"All Muslim are not terrorist but all terrorists are Muslim"


HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHA...... OMG HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by Temysteve(m): 3:16pm On Jul 02, 2017
lfleak:
language is not equal to religion
and when you're reading the language you can't interprete/understand, what does that mean to you?
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by orunto27: 5:29pm On Jul 02, 2017
The Flood of Sulfur and Brimstones hails from Our God of Nigeria will consume all the culprits, IJN AMEN!!!
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by lfleak: 8:05pm On Jul 02, 2017
Temysteve:
and when you're reading the language you can't interprete/understand, what does that mean to you?
translate.google.com

Get the interpretation of any language you wish..
Re: "You Can’t Force Islamic Studies On Our Children" - PFN, Bishop Oyedepo Warn by spartan117(m): 12:27am On Jul 03, 2017
factwriter:
The same king who stood by for over five decades while you were relegated as merely 5%ters.

King indeed.
Olowogbogboro has turned things around!
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