₦airaland Forum

ihatesycophant:
Speaking from a foreign country to a sovereign nation is an error in it entirety. You don't engage a sovereign nation from a strange land. Remember that Kano also has the certificate of citizenship of the said state, meaning he cannot be fanning am ember of self determination when at that material time is a citizen of that said land.
Look around the world everyone that fought for self determination did it by staying in that land and not engage afar of. No one win a war by staring at it, just the case of Kanu in a strange land. Intellectual freedom fighters are dogged and gallant people that are not timid in their resolve and principle. Kanu lost that.
Let me also tell you another way he misplaced it. A fight for self determination is a political fight and you are expected to carry virtually all political gladiators along to make your resolve have a colour but he never do that. No matter how we look at it, the agitation is a fight for political space and there are those that control different space in their domain and you don't expect them to be relegated by unknown person.
Self determination is legal and universally recognised but Kanu didn't follow the guidelines and take the political gladiators along based on our existing Nigerian Law.
Again, I am not insinuating a recall as stipulated by INEC. I mean a recall of having a certain mock gathering and ask all elected politicians and appointees to resign and come home to front the agitation or go more lighter note ask them to move for constitutional amendment that will give room for referendum.

Thanks bro i like you. Last year i attended a symposium title power use and abuse (mind you it has nothing to do with biafra, it was not an ipob or massob gathering) one of the presenters Dr. X said that one mistake the igbo elders did was pushing ojukwu to declare biafra and engage a war, he suggested that an external based struggled should have been a perfect approach because

1. The international support biafra lacked during the war could have been a reverse

2. Because ojukwu as a millitary governor of Enugu a state in "Nigeria" was tracherous of him to support the break up of the nation he pledged allegiance to serve. Thus his role could have been different probably A-middle-man. Now you claim ipob lacks political support; who do we even call on that note? who is ready to sacrifice? we must be very careful with the way we see critical issues as casual... for any serving governor of any state to clearly state his support for ipob is in our dope mind "treacherous" otherwise why do you think they are all keeping mute? instead okorocha is even bold enough to state he is not part of the movement, publicly engaging in such a movement is a sacrifice for any currently serving government official he eighter loses his job or his life but he must lose something. Ipob does not need political hoodlums or semi illiterates parading themselves in the name of governors or whatever because they are all desperate for power and a chunk of the national cake. Having said that, what ipob needs are lawyers and intellectuals passionate enough and ready to do anything to make sure their principles are maintained and their course achieved even if it will cost them their lives. Uwazuruike was and still is i am personally happy for the emergence of ipob in the face of massob it will rekindle the flames in the latter if there is still any. If ipob can find such person/s in the current serving political circle it will be an advantage but definetly not the determinant because they (politicians) are not yet ready.

braimeddy:
Markafi is right. This is not how to fight for freedom. Inshort Kanu is making everything more difficult for himself and his people. I'm glad some sensible elders are gradually leaving him. The rate at which his agitation is going will actually make October 1st a reality. Na dem una eyes go open.

i beg to differ with you. Right is right and wrong is wrong.
Nnamdi Kanu is using wrong methods to press home his demands. For that he is still suffering for it. He is technically still under custody.
Markafi ought to equally and fiercely condemn the northern youth leaders over a threat on a people who are still legally fellow country men. No Igbo group in the north has openly declared support for Kanu and his IPOB. They are hardworking nigerians living legally and constitutionally in those areas. So why involve them in what Kanu and his IPOBs are doing?
Markarfi, A man who cannot boldly call white white and black black? No wonder Amodu Sheriff is using him to play ping pong

xstry:
we wouldn't even be having this talk if it weren't for cownu. The arewa youths are merely helping the liepobs speed up their biafrau.d by asking them to leave the north.

And when they leave and declare again Biafra Republic, na to come repeat 1966 abi??

Iblad0994:
So what will change by replying them ?
Yoruba have more better issues to attend to than answering those illiterates people and more so we are not rogues like the IPOD's..

Silence is the best answer for a fool remember!!!

Coward, but u don't believe Biafrans have the right to remain silent when fools speak.

NOETHNICITY:
Engage Kanu in a debate?
hhahahahaahaahahahahhaah
Have u ever listened 2 kanu try 2 make his point?
His emotions alws get the beta of him.
I watched a video of Kanu in the USA flawed by a USA based ibo woman during an argument about his plans 4 biafra.
listen very well to kanu and u see a clear lack of dept in his idea, if he has one.

Kanu lacks depth? Okay your Buhari has depth and his depth has taken Nigeria to the deep. Go to YouTube and listen to Kanu's speeches with open mind and learn dome wisdom. Afonja disease!

Lightening:
By which law do you suggest that properties legitimately acquired will be list on the declaration of Biafra? These children self.

Mr Man, by which law and jurisdiction will you be claiming to have legitimately acquired any property after you get your Biafrau.d? These Nnamdi stooges self tire me

You LiePOB guys that wants to eat your cake and have it are the true adult-children we have in Nigeria today.

How are you guys even sure all the present South East states in Nigeria today will be a part of Nnamdi Cownu Biafrau.d?

Biko, which business or work Nnamdi Cownu dey do before him turn to una emperor sef, him wife no dey hia o, and why him dey always look like say something dey chuk am for yansh?

LiePOBs make una no mind me wit my questions o, I just dey thinking-out-laud "tol" be day abi

Honestly only in the South East can a person in the caliber of Nnamdi Kanu with his style and sense of reasoning and actions can be seen as a leader to die for like most ignorant Ndigbo are literally worshipping Nnamdi Cownu.

#IHavePlentyToSay

psalmsjob:
Mr Man, by which law and jurisdiction will you be claiming to have legitimately acquired any property after you get your Biafrau.d? These Nnamdi stooges self tire me

You LiePOB guys that wants to eat your cake and have it are the true adult-children we have in Nigeria today.

How are you guys even sure all the present South East states in Nigeria today will be a part of Nnamdi Cownu Biafrau.d?

Biko, which business or work Nnamdi Cownu dey do before him turn to una emperor sef, him wife no dey hia o, and why him dey always look like say something dey chuk am for yansh?

LiePOBs make una no mind me wit my questions o, I just dey thinking-out-laud "tol" be day abi

Honestly only in the South East can a person in the caliber of Nnamdi Kanu with his style and sense of reasoning and actions can be seen as a leader to die for like most ignorant Ndigbo are literally worshipping Nnamdi Cownu.

#IHavePlentyToSay

So you agree that no known local or international laws support your wild and crazy imaginations. I leave you with your well deserved hypertension because Biafra is here and the zoo can do nothing about it. Bye

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stealthtiger:
Look at this self deluded bigot.

You've made several inflammatory remarks on another mans tribe and her people and I haven't made on yours cause I respect her people and everything about her.
#NoToTribalism

You can keep on ranting on nairaland about trivial issues and also display to the whole world how mentally demented a homo sapien of your type can be.
#NoMoreWord

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See this mofo! Typing trash like a hypocritical nitwit and after been duly put in ur place, u now play the victim card like a natural cowardly backstabbing S.O.A.B that u are. Don't ever quote me again, else I'll make this place a verbal hell for u and ur alternate monikers respectively. Now get lost.

sarrki:
The all go against our constitution
.that's the truth bro

A journey of a thousand years starts with a step

We should all call a spade a spade on this issue

They are all criminals and enemies of the state

If the youth are enemies of the state, we say small pikin dey worry them.But what do we if an Old albino grandfather chrislem becomes the said enemy? Old age dey worry am?

sarrki:
They are

Are you from the north ?

You can't insult KANU of committing same crime while shielding yours

Its wrong Mr charge and bail lawyer

So you accept your leader is a criminal? yet you follow him

Yyeske:
No need for too much talk, just tell your friends and relatives in the north to start relocating before Oct 1st

in Ebonyi they are morthan 2 million Hausas and fulanis talk mo of Enugu and Anambra
U think na only u guys sabi use matchet

dudebuck:
Fools, ENGAGE NNAMDI KANUNIN A DEBATE, IF YOU DEFEAT HIM, THEN I WILL STOP ASSOCIATING WITH HIM. How hard can that be? He is busy presenting facts and figures and you are busy calling him names.

and busy inventing a new religion called chrislem

Yyeske:
No need for too much talk, just tell your friends and relatives in the north to start relocating before Oct 1st

Will you shut the f2k up.

Nnamdi Kanu approach cane it from the continously killing 9f Massob members and the hausa/yoruba applauding and mocking the death of a group whom NEVER wished or did them wrong.

Incase you aren't aware, Nnamdi Kanu was part of Massob in the past. What human being do you know will form love over people whom wished him death for practicing his rights. F2k out of here cause we all remember the joy in una hearts when Massob members were gating slaughtered for no justifiable reason.

Lightening:
This guy just fell down from the skies. Diplomacy with who? Where has diplomacy ever worked in this goddamn zoo if a country? Awolowo, Abiola, Uwazuruike et all all used diplomacy and either paid with their lives or rendered irrelevant to their people by the establishment. NDA, MEND, Book Haram etc all used threat and violence and the system hearkened to their calls and even begged some for dialogue. IPOB learnt from the experience of others. So spare us this diplimacy bullcrap.

Mr. Man, no one fight authority bigger than him and get away with it. They later succumb and flow with the tide. It's only a popular agitation that sees the light of the day. Let me put you on notice, the issue here is a survival for a political space and if political gladiators are not carried along it will definitely fall like pack of card and that is why you see different groups rise for or against the IPOB agitation. Youths may have idea they nurse but can only work if political gladiators put their hands and political will to support it because they have political resources, hence people will just die for nothing.
Again, when next time you want to engage in discourse Pls try and be civil and decorum. Not every time you engage in hot words because the loudest voice may not necessarily win the argument.

Lightening:
So you agree that no known local or international laws support your wild and crazy imaginations. I leave you with your well deserved hypertension because Biafra is here and the zoo can do nothing about it. Bye

Always chest beating, claiming to be intelligent but unable to articulate their thoughts in a civilized manner.

The whole world is moving to being one and you morons are here talking about division taking yourself backward and you think I care about your Biafrau.d more than you

Interestingly, most of you guys don't even reside in the South East and the rest of you that reside there have never left there for most part of their lives so tell me who needs others more in Nigeria?

Make una park well, most people kept quiet because we don't want to dignify you guys but the more we keep quiet the more you guys of low self-esteem thinks you have superior argument and we start to rubbish you ideas you quickly say bye bye and run away insulting as you retreat.

Like one IPOB stooge was saying on another thread that nobody took up Nnamdi Kanu's challenge for a debate and thought to myself who would like to argue with a mad man or a slowpoke bent on destruction? Nobody would because soon people won't be able to tell the difference between you two, who's mad and who's trying to help him to reformat his brain?

Nigeria is not perfect and no nation in this world is but all nation are striving towards perfection by making laws to fine tune it's Constitution to reflect the aspirations of everyone. If you cannot dialogue with other present constituents of Nigeria then you cannot dialogue with any other units of Nigeria if Nigeria, God forbid, disintegrates.

Mydazz:
If you really want Biafra as much as you claim, I think the ultimatum by Arewa youths shouldn't bother you, in fact, you should have given such ultimatum to every Ibo all over the country. It doesn't seem to me that Ibos are sincere with this agitation,, if there's truth in that, then they should come out with what they really want.

Other than the elites, which igbo is bothered.

Even Nnamdi Kanu that you lots screech about even THANKED the Awera youths for the Oct 1st quit notice

All they did was prove us right and show the fools whom still believe in this useless nation that we were right since day 1.

Cobtinue deluding yourself that Igbos are bothered. If we were bothered, that'll be IPOB focus since the announcement. Since the announcement, other than Igbo politicians and their greedy aides, which igbo have given 2 f2ks. Heck Umuzurike was bombarded by igbo groups for even going up there to speak.

Continue deluding yourself

chineduemmao:
Thanks bro i like you. Last year i attended a symposium title power use and abuse (mind you it has nothing to do with biafra, it was not an ipob or massob gathering) one of the presenters Dr. X said that one mistake the igbo elders did was pushing ojukwu to declare biafra and engage a war, he suggested that an external based struggled should have been a perfect approach because

1. The international support biafra lacked during the war could have been a reverse

2. Because ojukwu as a millitary governor of Enugu a state in "Nigeria" was tracherous of him to support the break up of the nation he pledged allegiance to serve. Thus his role could have been different probably A-middle-man. Now you claim ipob lacks political support; who do we even call on that note? who is ready to sacrifice? we must be very careful with the way we see critical issues as casual... for any serving governor of any state to clearly state his support for ipob is in our dope mind "treacherous" otherwise why do you think they are all keeping mute? instead okorocha is even bold enough to state he is not part of the movement, publicly engaging in such a movement is a sacrifice for any currently serving government official he eighter loses his job or his life but he must lose something. Ipob does not need political hoodlums or semi illiterates parading themselves in the name of governors or whatever because they are all desperate for power and a chunk of the national cake. Having said that, what ipob needs are lawyers and intellectuals passionate enough and ready to do anything to make sure their principles are maintained and their course achieved even if it will cost them their lives. Uwazuruike was and still is i am personally happy for the emergence of ipob in the face of massob it will rekindle the flames in the latter if there is still any. If ipob can find such person/s in the current serving political circle it will be an advantage but definetly not the determinant because they (politicians) are not yet ready.

The missing link in your submission is that the current Nigerian Constitution does not give room for referendum and self determination cannot be achieved except there is referendum, hence who and who can push for the insertion of that clause are the representatives which will also be a bigger mountain to climb because of the structure already in place. Now by and large, the alternative is to resort to self help which may eventually lead to 'war' because you should not expect a government to do what is not written in the constitution, especially a big thing as self determination.
That's why someone said, Kanu is not pursuing this agitation intellectually and even try to compare him with the ace Ojukwu and Saro Wiwa. He didn't take the existing constitution into cognizance before asking for referendum. I think first thing first. No one cut a tree and sit on the stem. That will result to untold casualty. That's the scenario of Kanu at hand.

braimeddy:
The way and manner Kanu is going about it is very wrong. Cos he's doing it in an aggressive and provocative way

Please, what will be the right way if I may ask?

sarrki:
Whao the message is coming from their chairman

Having said that makarfi you are totally wrong

They committed same offence

They are all enemies of the state.

When you try to shield those criminal youths

Then we the patriots might also reconsider our stand on Mazi oba emir the 2nd onikuje of kuje prison
Chairman prison council

Shut up
.What garbage are you spewing?
Nnamdi Cownu asked for a separate country to be called Biafra. He promised to get it by force. He promised to kill everyone in the north and burn down the north with the help of your foreign allies.

Arewa youths said okay we give you a period of time to relocate to your South East forest, then we will help by pressing the FG to organise a referendum for you to have your own nation..
So,among the two which more diplomatic?

Adiola:
who cares election will not hold dare the order and blame yourself ..its a threat yeah

b very careful mind d seed u are sowing

sarrki:
They are

Are you from the north ?

You can't insult KANU of committing same crime while shielding yours

Its wrong Mr charge and bail lawyer

ahhahahahaha.u see the fire in him to protect his andewa youths but is quick to slash kanu..Make una continue.

dudebuck:
How do you kill an ideology?Is it not by presenting a SUPERIOR ARGUMENT? Stop the name calling, it won't change a thing, (if you like continue) engage Kanu in a debate, if you win then I become pro Nigerian. One of you people was here ranting kanu brain wash, kanu brain wash, then I asked him how kanu brain washed people, calling Nigeria a zoo was the reply, I was like WTF , is that the brainwash? He hasn't replied till now.

he will Reply,he was gone to ask imama what to say...Ndi north no get sense naaaaa

It beats my imagination how the so called Arewa youths have come openly to Tell the Yorubas that Osibanjo will never go for Presidency come 2019.
Having made such statement,i took it upon my self to Browse Nairaland for 2 days to get or see any black-lash Response to the said epistle by the Al-Might and Rulling Arewa Youths but was not furtile...If there is,post the Link.
Since i joined Nairaland,i have never seen where the Yorubas are in war of words with the Hausas,[ Are Yorubas Slaves]..what ever the hausas says stands...
The Yorubas are always Faster than usnain bolt to feast on any thread that Has the name of KANU in it.The hatred on Kanu made people like IPOBEXPOSED to take oath that Kanu will never make it alive..Gracefull he did....
Some thread about kanu has Thousands views and like[From Yorubas with Bashing and ill talk]
My advice to all Yorubas it is to Buy Rat Poison now its cheap cos when the deman goes up,it will become scarce...Kanu is winning.

By Northern youths he means boko haram...abi?

xstry:
How can Cownu engage the zoo in an argument? I thought the zoo cannot be reasoned with?

But they can reason with the zoo keepers .

amjoseph19:
Na Normal trend on Nairaland to be an Igbo man and talk against Biafra. infact I know one guy from ogun state here in nairand he is claiming, he is from anambra. we knw una.
Ojukwu opted for physical war, u guys said it was wrong.
uwazurike went for peace, his followers were killed, he was arrested and stamped down.
Kanu is here with civil disobedience Which is not illegal. Una still dey complain.

What do you guys want??

is hate speeches civil disobidience?

EzeUche:
I am from the Niger Delta and people from the Niger Delta do not like Nigeria either.

then unite, why so much subdivision?

chineduemmao:
Thanks bro i like you. Last year i attended a symposium title power use and abuse (mind you it has nothing to do with biafra, it was not an ipob or massob gathering) one of the presenters Dr. X said that one mistake the igbo elders did was pushing ojukwu to declare biafra and engage a war, he suggested that an external based struggled should have been a perfect approach because

1. The international support biafra lacked during the war could have been a reverse

2. Because ojukwu as a millitary governor of Enugu a state in "Nigeria" was tracherous of him to support the break up of the nation he pledged allegiance to serve. Thus his role could have been different probably A-middle-man. Now you claim ipob lacks political support; who do we even call on that note? who is ready to sacrifice? we must be very careful with the way we see critical issues as casual... for any serving governor of any state to clearly state his support for ipob is in our dope mind "treacherous" otherwise why do you think they are all keeping mute? instead okorocha is even bold enough to state he is not part of the movement, publicly engaging in such a movement is a sacrifice for any currently serving government official he eighter loses his job or his life but he must lose something. Ipob does not need political hoodlums or semi illiterates parading themselves in the name of governors or whatever because they are all desperate for power and a chunk of the national cake. Having said that, what ipob needs are lawyers and intellectuals passionate enough and ready to do anything to make sure their principles are maintained and their course achieved even if it will cost them their lives. Uwazuruike was and still is i am personally happy for the emergence of ipob in the face of massob it will rekindle the flames in the latter if there is still any. If ipob can find such person/s in the current serving political circle it will be an advantage but definetly not the determinant because they (politicians) are not yet ready.

have u done ur home work very well? The viability and d fall out?

Nonaira1:
Other than the elites, which igbo is bothered.

Even Nnamdi Kanu that you lots screech about even THANKED the Awera youths for the Oct 1st quit notice

All they did was prove us right and show the fools whom still believe in this useless nation that we were right since day 1.

Cobtinue deluding yourself that Igbos are bothered. If we were bothered, that'll be IPOB focus since the announcement. Since the announcement, other than Igbo politicians and their greedy aides, which igbo have given 2 f2ks. Heck Umuzurike was bombarded by igbo groups for even going up there to speak.

Continue deluding yourself

oga big is better o

bitcoinvin:
he will Reply,he was gone to ask imama what to say...Ndi north no get sense naaaaa

imagine how u talk

Ahmed Makarfi is a disgrace to PDP for saying this and in a civilised society should have been made to stand down from office for this nonsense comments

IPoB and Nnamdi Kanu have at no time trampled on the rights of Non Igbos living in the South East

IPOb have at no time threatened the lives and security of Non Igbos in the south east

If Ahmed Makarfi does not know the difference between a people's right to self determination and making that argument in a lawful way compared to the pronouncement of arewa youths who essentially are threatening the lives of Igbos living in the North who may or may not be IPOB members

Ahmed Makarfi is really not qualified to be PDP chairman! He should step down!

yom2:
b very careful mind d seed u are sowing

rubbish go and hit your head somewhere election won't hold dare director's orders and see for yourself