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Iranu..

Lemme see the bott that will bann me again

Lol. But you have been banned again!

banmee:
Here we go again. The mind of a religious nut job is just amazing. Smh.

hey s that your introduction line to your bio cause you most definitely are not talking to me not today Satan

ADEWUMIMichael:
Research ongoing....


Atheist please stay away




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I'm back from church,






According to my research,






for the believer in Jesus Christ, the Bible tells us that after death believers’ souls/spirits are taken to heaven, because their sins are forgiven by having received Christ as Savior ( John 3:16 , 18 , 36 ).




For believers, death is to be “away from the body and at home with the Lord” ( 2 Corinthians 5:6-8 ; Philippians 1:23 ). However, passages such as 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 describe believers being resurrected and given glorified bodies.



If believers go to be with Christ immediately after death, what is the purpose of this resurrection? It seems that while the souls/spirits of believers go to be with Christ immediately after death, the physical body remains in the grave “sleeping.” At the resurrection of believers, the physical body is resurrected, glorified, and then reunited with the soul/spirit. This reunited and glorified body-soul-spirit will be the possession of believers for eternity in the new heavens and new earth ( Revelation 21-22 ).



Second, for those who do not receive Jesus Christ as Savior, death means everlasting punishment. However, similar to the destiny of believers, unbelievers also seem to be sent immediately to a temporary holding place, to await their final resurrection, judgment, and eternal destiny. Luke 16:22-23 describes a rich man being tormented immediately after death. Revelation 20:11-15 describes all the unbelieving dead being resurrected, judged at the great white throne, and then being cast into the lake of fire. Unbelievers, then, are not sent to hell (the lake of fire) immediately after death, but rather are in a temporary realm of judgment and condemnation. However, even though unbelievers are not instantly sent to the lake of fire, their immediate fate after death is not a pleasant one.



The rich man cried out, “I am in agony in this fire” ( Luke 16:24 ).




Therefore, after death, a person resides in a “temporary” heaven or hell. After this temporary realm, at the final resurrection, a person’s eternal destiny will not change. The precise “location” of that eternal destiny is what changes. Believers will ultimately be granted entrance into the new heavens and new earth ( Revelation 21:1 ).




Unbelievers will ultimately be sent to the lake of fire ( Revelation 20:11-15 ). These are the final, eternal destinations of all people—based entirely on whether or not they had trusted Jesus Christ alone for salvation ( Matthew 25:46 ; John 3:36 ).

Christians read their Bibles too little, Know Nothing of what they speak sometimes and Argue too much about it... Big reason why the Word is watered down more often than none. How would the Unbeliever know? How can the Christian live in light? How can salvation come?

When the Word you speak of, you know little or nothing about?

I will summarize this topic for you but will make some suggestions to you at the end, please follow them and you'll understand the Bible far more than when your Pastor Preaches. The Bible is no secret and shouldn't have it's stories told in part by man.


When you die, believer or not, the reverse of creation takes place.

1. Your breath, believer or not (which in actual sense is not yours but God's) goes back to the giver, God. Check Ecclesiastics 3:7 for more light on this!
2. Your flesh goes back to the dust which it came from. Still simply explained in Ecc. 3 no need for much discussion on this if you are a Bible believing Christian (Or NOT)

3. All these happen as you await judgement if you died a sinner while the righteous ones would be resurrected at Christ's second coming which will leave the wicked living on earth dead.(please note that Revelation makes you realize that there is a first death and second death also a first and second resurrection. The wicked would partake of the first and second death while the saved would partake of the first resurrection.) The New Testament is clear on these issues.

4. At the return of the New Jerusalem when the final judgement would be passed (and as we say, Hell be let loose), the wicked who would have been dead for a thousand years (The Millennium: Which is also the bottomless pit for the Devil as he will have no one to tempt for a thousand years) would be resurrected by the Devil to wage war against the returning King and his kingdom (The Battle of Armageddon) but would all be destroyed as the final judgement will be passed. This happens after God is pronounced as a just King who is fair and just in his judgement and all the Creatures worship him.

5. After the punishment (Hell: the fire that consumes them all), The New Kingdom sits on the world and spreads on (This is the New Earth).




Now If you still believe this concerns just Christians, then you need to ask yourself this question
Why do you exist if not to praise God? Where you just created to become manure? Or do you have a higher purpose and were designed for this?


Next if you say we go to Hell or Heaven Straight then ask yourself this
When would the battle of Armageddon be? When Jesus said all Earth shall see him, what is the purpose of coming again when we will already have been in Heaven or Hell after our death?


If also you say only the believer's breath goes back to God, read Ecclesiastics 3 well and tell me, does the Bible Contradict itself when it say ALL?
Also did God create man in the forms of Believer and Non-Believer? Aren't we all his Children?


Now if you don't believe in God, well I'm actually not going to try to convince you, I'll just say, no other force, being or teaching can better explain your purpose than the one who made YOU possible. God set this whole thing up, he'll tell you why at the end of time when he returns that is if you don't find him before then!


Finally God is for everyone, Sinner or Believer alike.

To the Author of this post, nice one but you still have a lot of work to do as regards researching on this topic. Read your Bible thoroughly as this topic holds the secret of Spirits haunting (Which is a big lie, just Demons disturbing us humans), Judgement, the nature of Humanity and Sin and also Gods promise for us all in the light of all these.

Remember, Isaiah 28:13 "Precept upon precept, line upon line, here a little, there a little that they may go and fall backward and be broken and snared and taken"


NB: All I just said are in the Bible please do go and do your research for yourselves, do not argue it, learn it and live it, it would be life to you. Revelations, Ecclesiastics and Matthew would help you our also get a Credence Concordance or something of that sort to help you reference bible passages on this topic. I just gave you the summary but if you read, you'll understand better.

solasoulmusic:
hey s that your introduction line to your bio cause you most definitely are not talking to me not today Satan

That's what a nut job would say.

irynterri:
hmmm,i have never seen a Bible named Catholic Bible with my two eyes, but I have the good news Bible which Catholics read, I've read most of the deutrocanonical books because I found them interesting but I've not read the two books of Esdras,thanks for the verse, but it is still worth while to know the history behind those books because I'm yet to fully understand why King James refused to acknowledge the books, even the Bibles that have them placed them in a different section so obviously they are controversial,i do not know if the verse was omitted in the "Catholic Bible" but I don't think it is because of the purgatory doctrine but rather because it was taught across all churches that before the coming of Christ,all souls were kept in sheoul till Jesus died and opened the gates of the Holy City (Matt 27:52-53) the issue of not studying the scriptures but believing all that comes out from the mouth of the leaders of the church is not only peculiar in Catholic but other denominations in Christiandom, I met a fellow who claimed to be a Bible expert,I asked what were the course of events that followed the death of Christ and he could not answer,as for the purgatory Ish, I think the bone of contention is that it is almost impossible to be without sin and not every one will be privileged to seek forgiveness Immediately before death such as the case of sudden death e.g accidents, even the Bible says a righteous man sins up to 7times a day, I'm not fully convinced on its existence neither I'm I bothered only the dead know the truth,but I won't castigate it in case it's true, I think the living should be more interested in making heaven by keeping God's commands instead of bothering themselves with secrets meant to be revealed only to the dead,shalom

I like the way you mentioned that you took out time to read some of the books removed or separated as the case maybe, I would not lie to you I have not read all myself. To a large extent you are sincere and so I'll ask you if you know what is Justication by faith without the deeds of the law? Our conscience is our biggest judge, you see eh when you ask yourself if you'll make heaven instantly your conscience gives you an answer(there is fear) why has many people ignored that fear and assume that hopefully I'll make it. Who assumes that he'll graduate from a school if he has not followed the due process put in place by the school authorities? But in Christianity we like to assume. My dear please for the sake of your eternal soul seek, knock and ask and the truth will be revealed to you. It does not come to those who just assume. I was born into a Christian home and I answered a Christian from birth but I will tell you that I've just really been a Christian less than 2years.

avril9:
If you believe some ppl that die go to heaven thats fine... If u believe some go to hell thats ok.... If you believe that some get reincarnated thats also ok... In anytin dont stop believing cos they sha go somewhere.... We will only find out when we become like them.

whats your own view on this??

Wanna hear from you!

Teedawg:
This is what i have to say to all regardless of your believes or unbelieves we are still here talking about what happens after death everybody bring his or her own opinion based on what they believe there are lot of unresolved questions in this world only those who have died know what happens but wait what if there is no consciousness in them to even know the state they are haha. how do we know lol somethings are better left unexplained thats why God told Adam and eve not to eat of the fruit because they won't be able to handle what comes after and that is why we go through this stage of uncertainty maybe if he had taken more bites from the fruit the thing for Balance but the dose is not complete haha. that is why i even laugh when some people say there is No God how the heck will you know just because a human being sat anf thought of it and it made sense to him doesnt mean he is right it doesn't also mean its wrong but you can not be sure that is why i always say God or no God i appreciate the fact that there are holy books to guide you that's one of the important of them to help you restrain all this curiosity that can make you go mad even if there is no God I'll still appreciate those who made it and it actually defines what i see in my society today so that's a point for me. if truly God doesn't exist then how will a group of individuals who i will consider not so intelligent at that time as the science say got to create things that matches at different time intervals haha The only thing that can question the bible authenticity is when its proved that aliens exist Note i said Bible not God

me ma get question will rapture actually happen also are we actually going to heaven abi God will make the earth a new earth (Jerusalem ) in which we will dwell in with him(go and read revelations to understand )

Where actually do you stand, cos you sound so confused, if you disapprove of the bible then how come you believe the story of Adam and Eve? if you believe the story of Adam and Eve to be true, then believe the whole bible otherwise dont believe, decide where you stand.

banmee:
That's what a nut job would say.

nice to know so much about you in two posts Satan

the Bible doesn't have a single view of the afterlife

dhardline:
I like the way you mentioned that you took out time to read some of the books removed or separated as the case maybe, I would not lie to you I have not read all myself. To a large extent you are sincere and so I'll ask you if you know what is Justication by faith without the deeds of the law? Our conscience is our biggest judge, you see eh when you ask yourself if you'll make heaven instantly your conscience gives you an answer(there is fear) why has many people ignored that fear and assume that hopefully I'll make it. Who assumes that he'll graduate from a school if he has not followed the due process put in place by the school authorities? But in Christianity we like to assume. My dear please for the sake of your eternal soul seek, knock and ask and the truth will be revealed to you. It does not come to those who just assume. I was born into a Christian home and I answered a Christian from birth but I will tell you that I've just really been a Christian less than 2years.

Justification is by faith. When the question on whether one will make heaven brings fear, it's either one is not a christian or the accuser of the brethren is at work, if you are born again and Christ is your lord and savoiur, faith calls those things that be not as though they were, no matter how much you may have struggled to be righteous or not, your righteousness is as a filthy rag, our righteousness is the righteousness of Christ, so by faith you will make heaven, if any fault comes to mind purge yourself immediately and ask for mercy and grace. Heaven is by faith, for without faith it is impossible to please God.

the bible say that it as be appointed for man to die once after that is judgement so the bible do tell us that the wages of sin is DEATH but those die in christ will have an everlasting life ..fistly after your death on this planet earth your soul will comeout of your body and rise up for judgement.,.pls if admin permit me i have a powerful message for the house "title" ""THE LONGEST FIVE MINUTE AFTER YOUR DEATH ON THIS PLANET EARTH""if admin permit me i will give the message..is a powerful message from my prophet ""TONY IBUOYE"" GOD BLESS YOU AS YOU READ

Gwaihir abeg gist me

xerxes456:
Justification is by faith. When the question on whether one will make heaven brings fear, it's either one is not a christian or the accuser of the brethren is at work, if you are born again and Christ is your lord and savoiur, faith calls those things that be not as though they were, no matter how much you may have struggled to be righteous or not, your righteousness is as a filthy rag, our righteousness is the righteousness of Christ, so by faith you will make heaven, if any fault comes to mind purge yourself immediately and ask for mercy and grace. Heaven is by faith, for without faith it is impossible to please God.

Exactly, for without faith it is impossible to please God. Thank you for that.

But unfortunately a lot of people do not know this or some are even thought that faith is just when you read a few verses in the Bible and say to yourself I believe and always keep repeating that not knowing that true faith in itself is equally a gift. If not Christ won't diffentiate between a house built on sand and that which is built on the rock cause any true faith in anchored on Christ(rock of ages) also, Cause for anyone who claims to be a Christian the Strom must come and faith must be tested to ascertain and distinguish between real and fake and only those with real faith will hold on all thru without compromising or giving up.

DejiJ:
Nothing. Not unless we know a person that died and returned. To give us full gist.......

there are lots of people who have died and returned check this site www.spiritlessons.com

solasoulmusic:
nice to know so much about you in two posts Satan

Looked at yourself in the mirror lately? You are fuggly enough to represent satan.

When u die u become food and manure. No fire, and no street of diamond to walk on. Better do all u want to do now and stop thinking that u will come back and do it later, except something like the walking dead happens to u.

moses93:
nothing, if you die you don die be that. no bring another story come abeg.

my brother there is heaven and hell check this site www.spiritlessons.com

banmee:
Looked at yourself in the mirror lately? You are fuggly enough to represent satan.

Thanks for telling me a lot about you Satan I don't fear you we all know your loveless and lonely but you feel sexy well done

Just Don't melt at the sign of the cross at least I get liver show my face

Bamidele539:
whats your own view on this??

Wanna hear from you!

i believe in everything i wrote earlier, especially reincarnation.

DejiJ:
And you believe? Do you know one personally?

you don't need to know any of them personally for you to believe evidence are there for you to see or you can just google 'near death experience ' like one brother mentioned here on this very topic shalom

solasoulmusic:
Thanks for telling me a lot about you Satan I don't fear you we all know your loveless and lonely but you feel sexy well done

Just Don't melt at the sign of the cross at least I get liver show my face

Da phuck? Wasn't sure if you were a dude or not. Now i know. You get mind put this tin for public? Now i know it's going to be a bad day?

avril9:
i believe in everything i wrote earlier, especially reincarnation.

yes, i saw it, so if you were told to pick just 1 belief, which will you go for...?

juventino:
What are you doing here? You know we are not allowed to comment on your evil section, so get the Bleep outta here

Tell that to some of your nut skull christians that still harass and insult us despite our rules.

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The people that wrote that jargon on the Bible were primitive buddies.

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You need Help

banmee:
Da phuck? Wasn't sure if you were a dude or not. Now i know. You get mind put this tin for public? Now i know it's going to be a bad day?

Your as irrelevant to the world as the phone you hide behind and you have the nerve to insult others

Your not sexy my guy if you like insult me I no shame show am lol

You resemble police officer with your boli looking shoulder

solasoulmusic:
Your as irrelevant to the world as the phone you hide behind and you have the nerve to insult others

Your not sexy my guy if you like insult me I no shame show am lol

You resemble police officer with your boli looking shoulder

Actually it's an ipad. And i'm glad you noticed the toned arms and shoulders. Took a lot of rope climbs to achieve that. In your case though, there is no cure or exercise that can fix the face of a chick that looks like a dude .

banmee:
Actually it's an ipad. And i'm glad you noticed the toned arms and shoulders. Took a lot of rope climbs to achieve that. In your case though, there is no cure or exercise that can fix the face of a chick that looks like a dude .

Who dey follow you talk on a Sunday abeg since like the last comment I've been trying to tell you to stay away now it's not by force thank you love it that way

I get face you no get or your ugliness set shame you

IPad ko mo pad ni

musicwriter:
There's nothing like death to begin with. What happens is nothing more than worrying about what's in another room you've never opened before. Until you open that door you wouldn't know what's inside, and when you do open it you'll see further rooms and windows to open. Life have no beginning or end.

You could exist as atom and still be alive.
You could exist as gas and still be alive. As a matter of fact, your science books say matter exists in various forms and there're still the same thing.

Where were you before you was born? Were you dead?

Fantastic response. There is no such thing as death. We are immortal souls. Our bodies die. We do not. We are Consciousness. Consciousness is not a phy
sical thing that can die or be destroyed. We are aspects of God experiencing a temporary human existence. When our bodies die, we return home to Ultimate Reality, what we call the spirit world, from whence we came. Our religion or lack thereof is completely irrelevant to this natural transition.

solasoulmusic:
Who dey follow you talk on a Sunday abeg since like the last comment I've been trying to tell you to stay away now it's not by force thank you love it that way

I get face you no get or your ugliness set shame you

IPad ko mo pad ni

The funny thing is most people with a face like yours invest their time in the shadows. I like you though; you are brave. It takes a lot of guts to walk around in public with a face like that.

banmee:
The funny thing is most people with a face like yours invest their time in the shadows. I like you though; you are brave. It takes a lot of guts to walk around in public with a face like that.

Your parents are the brave ones they brought you home now Bleep off

solasoulmusic:
Your parents are the brave ones they brought you home now Bleep off

Usually people with faces like that get jobs as security experts. Their faces can and will scare away all bad guys. Guaranteed employment