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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by plappville(f): 10:47pm On Jul 05, 2017
wolesmile:

Are you now saying that the God of the old testament is not the God of Christians?

What is this one saying

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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by plappville(f): 10:49pm On Jul 05, 2017
wolesmile:

But when the crusaders were killing Muslims in their millions throughout Europe, it was right, ehn?

What were Muslims doing in Europe then? Na their home? Na there Muhammad build una holy land where blood do flow yearly?

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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by plappville(f): 10:58pm On Jul 05, 2017
Jhaytee4all:
grin I thought I was the only one saying this.

The bible talks about beheading as the beast method of persecuting the saints(christians).

Why should we then have a double guess or rethink when it's obviously sharia law undecided

Just dey count yourself worthy of rapture so you will not witness that day for yourself and saying "I talk am, na muslim people go be the antichrist" or "I deny my faith as a christian"

If u witness that day eh embarassed jez make dem cut your head, so u fit enter heaven. "Faithful is he who has called, so you remain faithful.." Hence, many are called but few are chosen smiley

If you look at islam's agenda, You just can point straight at it and say, the bible is accurate. See prophecy fulfilling in our eyes. shocked

The reason why atheists can't grab the message is because they do not want to take their time to study the bible.
And Yes! Islam is in the bible. And muslims are killing christians thinking they are doing a service to God.

No wonder they praise allah whenever they kill infidels.

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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by plappville(f): 11:00pm On Jul 05, 2017
jagugu88li:
My dear....the situation is becoming. Outside religion, they are now protesting to have genderless birth certificates so that, apperently a child can later decide what "they" want to be. I have long given up on humanity

Gabriel is sent to a far away village to deliver a message. We just have to wait embarassed

Btw...I hope by "Kafir" you where only but mking a point and not dissing anyone. Thats not a nice word to use.

Satan is the God of this world/age. He controls the minds of many. He is the major influence on the ideals, opinions, goals and hopes of the majority of people.

What else do you expect from un ungodly people? Some claim to be god fearing yet they kill their neighbours everyday.
Am not surprise at all. God have mercy on us all.

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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by mustymatic(m): 12:56am On Jul 06, 2017
plappville:



Were you not taught how to use capital letter to start a sentence ? Where is yours? Look at who is finding errors has plenty of error in him. grin cheesy

Where is the "I" before can't? Umm my Muslim brother grin


We are permitted to expose evil like Islam.... tongue tongue
Shame don catch am.... hehehe
permitted indeed, Gerarahia mehn
Send your husband or brother
Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by mustymatic(m): 12:59am On Jul 06, 2017
plappville:

What is this one saying
What are you not understanding? Answer the question?
Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by alBHAGDADI: 4:20am On Jul 06, 2017
wolesmile:

But when the crusaders were killing Muslims in their millions throughout Europe, it was right, ehn?

The answer to your question lies in the question itself, only if you could use your brain to figure it out.

Start by asking yourself how Muslims crossed into Europe and what their motive was.

They crossed into Europe with an islamization agenda to be applied via the sword. They successfully took over Spain which they named Andalusia and also Portugal, killing people who were Christians. If not for the crusaders raised by the Pope, Europe would have been a Muslim continent today. The crusaders chased them out of Europe and they ended in North Africa where they also killed the Christians there and took over. That's why North Africa is full of Arabs and Muslims today.

So, stop making it seem as if Muslims are the victims. They started it and got a bloody nose.

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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by alBHAGDADI: 4:24am On Jul 06, 2017
mustymatic:

Shame don catch am.... hehehe
permitted indeed, Gerarahia mehn
Send your husband or brother
All you've been doing on this thread is to derail it. You haven't even attempted to address the OP.

If you think you cannot debate a woman, why not address some of the points raised by men on this thread?

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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by mustymatic(m): 6:01am On Jul 06, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
All you've been doing on this thread is to derail it. You haven't even attempted to address the OP.

If you think you cannot debate a woman, why not address some of the points raised by men on this thread?
I don't think I can, the bible says not to.
Cooked up stories won't be addressed
Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by Nobody: 11:42pm On Jul 06, 2017
plappville:


If you look at islam's agenda, You just can point straight at it and say, the bible is accurate. See prophecy fulfilling in our eyes. shocked

The reason why atheists can't grab the message is because they do not want to take their time to study the bible.
And Yes! Islam is in the bible. And muslims are killing christians thinking they are doing a service to God.

No wonder they praise allah whenever they kill infidels.
leave the obdurate and hard-hearted atheists alone. they have their own judgments wiith God. since they fail to accept the truth(gospel)

the Muslims are really going to be very terrible in those days, and jesus tried to encourage us here. ...
Revelations 2:..
The Persecuted Church

8 “And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write,

‘These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life: 9 “I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. 10 Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.

has it not already been foretold in the above verses on the persecution of Churches? and who are the obvious persecutors?

P.S: seems like you've listened to TB joshua's sermon "The hidden truth" because of this; thinking they are doing a service to God

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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by Amberon11: 2:39am On Jul 07, 2017
Better than a paedophile rapist murderer prophet without a prophecy.
xstry:
Praying to the man-god grin

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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by Amberon11: 2:44am On Jul 07, 2017
Judaism. Know the difference.
mustymatic:

Let us look at Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity . Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death . Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."
Also let us look at Deuteronomy 17:3-5 "And he should go and worship other gods and bow down to them or to the sun or the moon or all the army of the heavens, ..... and you must stone such one with stones and such one must die. "

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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by Amberon11: 2:51am On Jul 07, 2017
Someone opens a thread on christian persecution and killing; your first reply was "keep praying to a man God", and now you're screaming hatred when given facts.

Don't even know how you people reason.
xstry:
That's all you ever do, engage in dumb and unreasonable arguments. you could not even answer a simple question. You could channel all this energy you spend hating hating Islam to do something good . Hatred kills

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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by Amberon11: 3:27am On Jul 07, 2017
I presume you don't know about annah the prophetess, or Deborah or Miriam who was a prophetess also. Go read up and stop showing your ignorance. Paul never said it was from God , he was clearly stating "his" own opinion.

Acts2: 17 'And it shall come to pass in the last days , says God , That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy , Your young men shall see visions , Your old men shall dream dreams.

18 And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy.

These scriptures show that God is not the misogynistic allah.


[s]
mustymatic:

if you don't know the difference between "where" and "were" then I don't know how in the hell you will understand any of the scriptures ever. can't help you girlie

1 Timothy 2:12
I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.
Paul says that women should not teach men. She must remain in silence to learn from men but not teach them.
Send me your husband or shut the front door
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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by Amberon11: 3:32am On Jul 07, 2017
How many times will I school you Muslims on this forum that the crusaders were a resistance to your Islamic jihadists? Seriously it is a known fact that the crusaders were only protecting themselves and Christians from the Islamic jihadists who were slaughtering their way across the middle east. If not for the crusaders, the entire Europe would've been forcefully islamized like Turkey and Syria that were once christian nations. Ask yourself how those nations became predominantly Muslim today.
wolesmile:

But when the crusaders were killing Muslims in their millions throughout Europe, it was right, ehn?

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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by Amberon11: 3:39am On Jul 07, 2017
My dear na so e dey start. I have given up on humanity long ago too. I first stumbled on this genderless rubbish earlier this year and since then I have concluded that half the population of america are insane.

In fact, some Americans now find it offensive to be referred to as a boy or girl that they obviously are. You say "hi girl" to a girl and she gets all defensive saying "did you just assume my gender"?? Isn't that madness?

I was watching Xfactor or so yesterday and a lady said she was a doll, not a human being. Simon tried convincing her that she was human and not a doll, but still the woman no gree.

Madness is now legal.
jagugu88li:
My dear....the situation is becoming. Outside religion, they are now protesting to have genderless birth certificates so that, apperently a child can later decide what "they" want to be. I have long given up on humanity

Gabriel is sent to a far away village to deliver a message. We just have to wait embarassed

Btw...I hope by "Kafir" you where only but mking a point and not dissing anyone. Thats not a nice word to use.
Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by Amberon11: 3:42am On Jul 07, 2017
bless you!
alBHAGDADI:
All you've been doing on this thread is to derail it. You haven't even attempted to address the OP.

If you think you cannot debate a woman, why not address some of the points raised by men on this thread?

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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by Amberon11: 3:44am On Jul 07, 2017
Tb Joshua first opened my eyes to that portion of the bible.
Jhaytee4all:
leave the obdurate and hard-hearted atheists alone. they have their own judgments wiith God. since they fail to accept the truth(gospel)

the Muslims are really going to be very terrible in those days, and jesus tried to encourage us here. ...
Revelations 2:..
The Persecuted Church

8 “And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write,

‘These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life: 9 “I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. 10 Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.

has it not already been foretold in the above verses on the persecution of Churches? and who are the obvious persecutors?

P.S: seems like you've listened to TB joshua's sermon "The hidden truth" because of this; [b]thinking they are doing a service to God.

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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by chachanga: 7:21am On Jul 07, 2017
Amberon11:
My dear na so e dey start. I have given up on humanity long ago too. I first stumbled on this genderless rubbish earlier this year and since then I have concluded that half the population of america are insane.

In fact, some Americans now find it offensive to be referred to as a boy or girl that they obviously are. You say "hi girl" to a girl and she gets all defensive saying "did you just assume my gender"?? Isn't that madness?

I was watching Xfactor or so yesterday and a lady said she was a doll, not a human being. Simon tried convincing her that she was human and not a doll, but still the woman no gree.

Madness is now legal.

Western Civilization is socio-culturally on the decline. The average individual is loaded with more 'fleshly' perversions that Caligula and well-empowered by law to proudly own his abberant idiosyncrasies with pride, even sometimes being insulated by legislation against litigation in several cases. You see people signing documents amongst themselves to pre-nuptial/post-nuptial rights, indemnifications in even of casuallty from participating in dangerous orgiastic endeavors, open-relationships where pple are marriage yet free to "swing" around...complete madness.!

And marriage has been redefined to mean union with inanimate objects like trees, houses and animals like dogs, horses etc; all in a bid for "Political-Correctness" to have full expression and full sway. We have lost our boundaries. This is a lost generation. What is waiting on the other side might not be very pleasant!

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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by plappville(f): 8:06am On Jul 07, 2017
mustymatic:

Shame don catch am.... hehehe
permitted indeed, Gerarahia mehn
Send your husband or brother

Again, Were you not taught how to use capital letter to start a sentence ? Where is yours? Look at who is finding errors has plenty of error in him. grin cheesy

Where is the "I" before can't? Umm my Muslim brother


We are permitted to expose evil like Islam. tongue

Who is supposed to be ashame here? Go back to school man. cheesy

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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by nathdim: 8:07am On Jul 07, 2017
xstry:
That's all you ever do, engage in dumb and unreasonable arguments. you could not even answer a simple question. You could channel all this energy you spend hating hating Islam to do something good . Hatred kills
what hatred or is there any hatred more than the one in the Quran

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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by plappville(f): 8:15am On Jul 07, 2017
mustymatic:

What are you not understanding?
Answer the question?

What Question? That was garbage. We all know what the OT and the NT stand for. I dont have time to repeat myself in subjects thats have already been treated. Anytime We creat a thread like this, You guys go to the old testament to justify allah. Allah is not the God of the OT. The worse is that, You just copy and paste half of the verse to justify your atrocities. Have you ever seen a Jew carry out a terrorist attack in the West or in Africa by shouting "Yahwen" is the greatest? Cant you see your allah is not same as their God? Uour allah is a blood socker. He kills you during hajj. He kills you daily (sunny and shiite) He kills infidels everyday. What sort of god do you worship? Go and read the book. "The people vs Muhammad " and come back here.

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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by plappville(f): 8:19am On Jul 07, 2017
alBHAGDADI:


The answer to your question lies in the question itself, only if you could use your brain to figure it out.

Start by asking yourself how Muslims crossed into Europe and what their motive was.

They crossed into Europe with an islamization agenda to be applied via the sword. They successfully took over Spain which they named Andalusia and also Portugal, killing people who were Christians. If not for the crusaders raised by the Pope, Europe would have been a Muslim continent today. The crusaders chased them out of Europe and they ended in North Africa where they also killed the Christians there and took over. That's why North Africa is full of Arabs and Muslims today.

So, stop making it seem as if Muslims are the victims. They started it and got a bloody nose.

They know all this. They are intentionally asking stupid questions to divert the OP. Everyone knows why the crusader did what they did. Muslims are just pretend. They like playing the victims. I know how to handle them now. grin
Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by plappville(f): 8:27am On Jul 07, 2017
nathdim:
what hatred or is there any hatred more than the one in the Quran

When you expose Islam. They say you hate Muslims.

I posted some quranic suras about killing infidels on Facebook. One of my contact said i was planting hate.

I then asked her. How am i planting hate? That she has infact confirmed that the quran is promoting hate because i didnt write the quran. grin cheesy

People need to wake up. I dont care to be called Islamophobe. Because i hate Islam with so much passion. A religion whose aim is to dominate the world at all cost. angry

Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by plappville(f): 8:29am On Jul 07, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
All you've been doing on this thread is to derail it. You haven't even attempted to address the OP.

If you think you cannot debate a woman, why not address some of the points raised by men on this thread?

He cannot, because He is not man enough to do so. cheesy
Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by analice107: 10:31am On Jul 07, 2017
jagugu88li:
I wont even try to put myself in a situation where I am suppose to debate.....like the two above me. NO POINT

What I know for a fact is that times are hard. Its just funny that the more the world advances, given our technology and know how, human value is further being degraded. Funny how the most religious are the massacres or the most disrespectul lot (both muslim and christians)

Blasphemy and abuse is the order of all religeous countries, claiming the true Creator as theirs.

Let me go check if Angel Gabriel is ready to blow the horn.......brb





Hahahahahahahaha, You are very funny. But it's a sad fact.
Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by analice107: 10:36am On Jul 07, 2017
An2elect2:
You call yourself a Christian and think Muslims are your persecutors. You know nada sad

Your Christianity has not made you part ways with your beloved friends and brought division between you and your relatives? You are a Christian that has no cross to carry?

Even if a Muslim kills you because "you are a Christian" remember that martyrdom can not supercede genuine salvation in Christ.

Instead of worrying over muslims make your election sure then you will not need to worry any more


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Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by mustymatic(m): 12:17pm On Jul 07, 2017
plappville:


What Question? That was garbage. We all know what the OT and the NT stand for. I dont have time to repeat myself in subjects thats have already been treated. Anytime We creat a thread like this, You guys go to the old testament to justify allah. Allah is not the God of the OT. The worse is that, You just copy and paste half of the verse to justify your atrocities. Have you ever seen a Jew carry out a terrorist attack in the West or in Africa by shouting "Yahwen" is the greatest? Cant you see your allah is not same as their God? Uour allah is a blood socker. He kills you during hajj. He kills you daily (sunny and shiite) He kills infidels everyday. What sort of god do you worship? Go and read the book. "The people vs Muhammad " and come back here.
Don't bring another trash, answer the question is what I meant, I didn't know where you've gone thru it, direct us to the thread or answer it
Is the god of the OT the same as the god of the NT?
Just because one nigga decides to commit murder and call God it makes him what exactly? Where was he instructed shout when committing suicide?
Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by mustymatic(m): 12:18pm On Jul 07, 2017
Amberon11:
Judaism. Know the difference.
Different god? I don't get it
Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by plappville(f): 1:51pm On Jul 07, 2017
mustymatic:

Don't bring another trash, answer the question is what I meant, I didn't know where you've gone thru it, direct us to the thread or answer it
Is the god of the OT the same as the god of the NT?

Now read this bible chapter then tell me where you see Jesus warnning them of worshiping a different God.
If Jesus could make references to the old testament. Is that not enough for you to know that both OLD and NEW testament profess thesame God?
Sometimes i just ignore such silly questions because i know its just a way to derail thread.
But since you have refused to see nothing wrong in ur brothers killing innocent people, instead insisting to know if Jesus and Abraham did worshiped The same God.
I have decided to show you the bible. Please take note of the bold:

Matthew 23

Jesus Warning Against Hypocrisy

23 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.

5 “Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries[a] wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6 they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7 they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others.

8[b] “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. 9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10 Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah.[/b]11 The greatest among you will be your servant. 12 For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.

Seven Woes on the Teachers of the Law and the Pharisees

13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.

15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.

16 “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’ 17 You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18 You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’ 19 You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21 And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22 And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it.

23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.

25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.

27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

29 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the "prophets" and decorate the graves of the "righteous". 30 And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of "our ancestors", we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the "prophets."’ 31 So you testify against yourselves that you are the "descendants" of those who murdered the "prophets". 32 Go ahead, then, and complete what "your ancestors" started!

33 “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35 And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation.

37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 38 Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.


Only a biased minded fellow will read this and still be asking such an unreasonable question. smiley
Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by plappville(f): 2:03pm On Jul 07, 2017
mustymatic:


Just because one nigga decides to commit murder and call God it makes him what exactly? Where was he instructed shout when committing suicide?

Those people you call niggas make your 2.18 Billion you brag about. And also, you must know that they are the true Muslims.
They are Arabs, their leaders own PHD In islamic study. Who are you? One raisin headed black man who his ancestors were force to recite arabic and then accept allah or they die.Y cheesy Common, you are just one of those moderate muslims. tongue

Re: Christians Are Really Facing Persecution. by plappville(f): 2:08pm On Jul 07, 2017
This people do not know what they are defending. You sure know the quran better than they do.

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