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Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by tpiah: 6:22am On Apr 03, 2010
The same One Nigerians who rail against secessionist ideas are first to register their chagrin at the goings on in Jos. Someone said he never imagined such things taking place in Naija. Where was he in 1966? It is becoming increasingly apparent that anything short of the complete balkanisation of North and South Nigeria at least will only propagate misery in the lives of denizens in the jungle called Nigger area.



is the river also called nigger river?
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Nobody: 6:33am On Apr 03, 2010
cap28 said:

daily mail is known throughout britain as being an anti immigration, racist newspaper - its readers are mainly narrow minded middle class english people who have a morbid and irrational hatred of foreigners, ever since i got to understand the power and agenda of the western media i always question the motives behind the stories they publish. 

why has Jos which has been known for being a peaceful town where christians and muslims have lived peacefully  alongside each other for years  decided to implode at this point in time - i went to school in Jos and throughout the 4 years i was there i never experienced any form of inter ethnic conflict - so why now?

Also why is the west clamouring for the division of nigeria - what do they stand to gain from all of this

Are these inter ethnic conflicts being manipulated and controlled by external forces - why are people like Peter Oborne - a staunch right wing racist and supporter of the white racist farmers in Zimbabwe suddenly talking about Rwanda style genocide in Nigeria, i wish someone could provide answers to some of these questions.

cap28, you're the only person on this thread so far that's clued up. The rest are just thoughtless, feckless absorbers of any dubious western propaganda that finds its wretched way to their ears and eyes.

Quite how the unfortunate incident of 300 deaths in a specific community in a country of 150 million where the overwhelming majority live in peace with one other, suddenly translates to ''a descent into civil war'' is only something that the racist animals in western propaganda outfits called ''news organisations'' can possibly conjur.

The same people who assure us daily that Iraq and Afghanistan are ''on the way to peaceful democracy'' despite millions killed, and thousands slaughtered in 'suicide' bombs instigated by the western invaders, somehow managed to contrive that a few hundred killed in Jos spells the end of Nigeria as a nation.

It is the gullible fools among us who take these clowns seriously that I'm more concerned about.

Russia in the 20th century lost over 60 million lives to war, famine and brutal dictatorship, yet they came out of it and are standing strong today, as the world's second superpower.

Ask the idiots predicting calamity for Nigeria after 300 deaths if they've actually read the history of some of those nations they think are perfect.

My guess is they haven't.

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Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Nobody: 6:51am On Apr 03, 2010
Ibime said:

The same One Nigerians who rail against secessionist ideas are first to register their chagrin at the goings on in Jos. Someone said he never imagined such things taking place in Naija. Where was he in 1966? It is becoming increasingly apparent that anything short of the complete balkanisation of North and South Nigeria at least will only propagate misery in the lives of denizens in the jungle called Nigger area.


Take your self-hating complex and stuff it up your dirty asss.

Don't try to rope us all into your diseased mental state.

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Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by edoyad(m): 7:16am On Apr 03, 2010
^^ I guess Ghadaffi is in cahoots with the western media right ? What part of Nigeria do you live if may ask if indeed you stay here. You don't need a crystal ball to tell you the trends that usually follows what is unfolding right now in thit jungle.

NIGERIA IS GOING TO UNRAVEL whether you like to hear it or not.
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Nobody: 7:23am On Apr 03, 2010
nigger area is uncalled for and in very bad taste.

when oyibos and AAs call you the same then you start screaming.

Nigeria is named for the river Niger. They should have named the country after river Benue, I guess.

Or just stuck with western Sudan which is what the area was and is culturally.

Guinea has slave connotations but since some folks want to act like slaves, then maybe they should revert to their slave name.

some of these so called "youths" are way out of line. angry angry

Youths wey dey push 30 to 40 and still no sense.
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by invisible2(m): 7:50am On Apr 03, 2010
300-400 lives wasted and we still think its normal, till your sibling or parents are hacked to death, then you will wake up from your one Nigeria slumber. There is no security of lives and property in Nigeria, no matter the state, what happened is childs play to what can still happen. More lives can still be lost and we will be trying to explain it away as just 300 lives out of 150 million, what senseless and insensitive comment!
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Nobody: 7:56am On Apr 03, 2010
edoyad said:

^^ I guess Ghadaffi is in cahoots with the western media right ?

Ghadaffi is more alarmed by the fact that Nigeria is recording a 7% annual economic growth rate, with her rapidly expanding middle class now estimated at 50 million,  and the nation's economy now ranked 33rd biggest in the world, soon to outrank SA as the biggest on the continent, on her way to being in the top 20 economies in 2020. THAT'S what Ghadaffi is alarmed about. He sees the BIG picture while the likes of yourself dwell on day-to day micro issues.

Go and read economic forecasts and analysis of Nigeria. The trend is UPWARDS, not downwards.


What part of Nigeria do you live if may ask if indeed you stay here. You don't need a crystal ball to tell you the trends that usually follows what is unfolding right now in thit jungle.

No, the only jungle in Nigeria is in your parents' house and in your backyard. Nigerians are not jungle bunnies like you.

NIGERIA IS GOING TO UNRAVEL whether you like to hear it or not.

Your mind is unravelling. You should see a psychiatrist.

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Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Ibime(m): 7:59am On Apr 03, 2010
Hehehehe

Get over it you nigger areans.
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by monkeyleg: 8:21am On Apr 03, 2010
So we must all wait for the West to tell us what we already know. No need to sensationalize this issue. Our problem still remains that we are not prepared to face up to the truth.
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by cap28: 12:15pm On Apr 03, 2010
ROSSIKE:

cap28 said:

cap28, you're the only person on this thread so far that's clued up. The rest are just thoughtless, feckless absorbers of any dubious western propaganda that finds its wretched way to their ears and eyes.

Quite how the unfortunate incident of 300 deaths in a specific community in a country of 150 million where the overwhelming majority live in peace with one other, suddenly translates to ''a descent into civil war'' is only something that the racist animals in western propaganda outfits called ''news organisations'' can possibly conjur.

The same people who assure us daily that Iraq and Afghanistan are ''on the way to peaceful democracy'' despite millions killed, and thousands slaughtered in 'suicide' bombs instigated by the western invaders, somehow managed to contrive that a few hundred killed in Jos spells the end of Nigeria as a nation.

It is the gullible fools among us who take these clowns seriously that I'm more concerned about.

Russia in the 20th century lost over 60 million lives to war, famine and brutal dictatorship, yet they came out of it and are standing strong today, as the world's second superpower.

Ask the idiots predicting calamity for Nigeria after 300 deaths if they've actually read the history of some of those nations they think are perfect.

My guess is they haven't.



thanks rossike, sometimes i feel as if im alone in my observations of what is going on in Nigeria but im glad you see what i see. 

i think our people are very much in the dark as to the West's real agenda towards Nigeria, this is why research is so important, the western media are the most toxic purveyors of lies, distortions and gross exaggerations you will ever find - take for instance the ongoing war in the Congo - how many times have you heard about that war in any western publication ? im sure you can count the number of times on the fingers of one hand - but this war is actually a proxy war being waged by uganda and rwanda against the congo ON BEHALF of the United States and britain in order to retain control over the eastern congolese mines which produce some of the worlds most sought after minerals like cobalt, uranium, industrial diamonds and gold.  Most of these minerals are vital raw materials needed in the production of mobile phones, computers, industrial machinery etc without cheap and easy access to these minerals many western manufacturers of these products  will fall into liquidation - hence the need to appropriate the land in this part of Congo in order to guarantee a steady flow of these minerals.  The Congolese are determined not to lose their god given wealth to these theives and are fighting the anglo/american sponsored puppet armies of rwanda and uganda in order to regain control hence this atrocious war.  This war has led to the genocide of over 6 million congolese and the displacement of many more who are exposed to starvation, mass despoil, beatings and all other kinds of brutalities but have  you heard any mention of this in the mainstream press?  Of course not because its them who are prosecuting this genocidal war and therefore it doesnt count as genocide. 

Lets look at another case - the war in Somalia - again this involved the use of a proxy army (ethiopia) who were backed and funded by the americans to wage war on Somalia in order to install a puppet govt which would allow america take control of the strategically placed  gulf of aden which lies to the north of the somalian border - the gulf of aden is a major shipping route in which 11 % of the world's seaborne petroleum passes through - the americans want to control this passage,   in addition 4 major US oil companies were granted concessions to explore for oil in somalia by a former us backed dictator in the 90's and the US under the pretence of supplying humanitarian aid are intent on taking control of this region.   

now lets look at nigeria - historically most religious groups have been able to live alongside each other peacefully aside from isolated incidents of bickering and minor clashes, but in the last 2 years there seems to be an escalation of these sort of incidents.  this seems to have reached its peak around the same time that Yaradua went missing - 

now i tend to look at things in order of sequence (sorry i didnt have time to put in the dates but  i beleive the sequence of events has been as  follows since Yaradua's appointment:


[list]
[li]  award of major construction contracts to china[/li]
[li]china offered major privatisaton contracts in nigeria - the nitel contract being one of them[/li]
[li]china offers higher price for oil licensing contracts which historically have always gone to america and britain[/li]
[li]nigeria on the verge of accepting chinese bids for oil licensing contracts[/li]
[li]nigeria accepts $2.5 billion bid from china in respect of nitel contract[/li]
[li]yaradua goes away on extended medical leave to saudi arabia[/li]
[li]america and britain start to clamour for successor as according to them "the country is beginning to fall into anarchy"[/li]
[li]inter ethnic /religious clashes begin to flare up in areas of nigeria[/li]
[li]a faction of the nigerian ruling  elite begin to clamour for handover of power to Jonathan[/li]
[li]power is handed over to Jonathan[/li]
[li]Jonathan meets with american diplomat jonnie carson on first day of handover[/li]
[li]Jonathan sacks head of BPE ( organisation which is overseeing privatisation of major public sector services in nigeria)[/li]
[li]Jonathan launches investigation into award of $2.5b purchase of nitel by chinese consortium[/li]
[li]Jonthan looks set to revoke award of nitel contract to china - second preferred bidder possibly british or american [/li]
[li]Yaradua still MIA (missing in action),  to date, [/li]


is it me or is there something not quite right about the above sequence of events (by the way this a summary and it does not present the full picture)

the reason i say this is because the americans and the british have a well documented history of orchestrating and fomenting societal breakdowns, counter revolutionary movements, toppling of govts whose economic policies clash with their own economic interests, sponsoring of violent overthrows - the list of countries that this has happened in are endless - here are a few:

indonesia, nicaragua, panama, the congo, haiti, sudan, somalia, pakistan, iraq

i cant go into the history - but please read up and you will see that the americans tend to use a specific pattern when they want to topple a govt which is regarded as "unfriendly" to their economic interests:

sponsoring of riots by paid stooges and agents or anyother groups sympathetic to their cause   - remember what happened in Jos - the fulani herdsmen who somehow were able to storm into a village in plateau state despite the fact that the army had been put on alert to their imminent arrival - to me that looks like the nigerian army either were working in collaboration with these agents or were deliberately told to stand down by an external body possibly the CIA.

use of propaganda where the western media continuosly demonises and caricatures the object of their attack in order to discredit and bring into disrepute the reputation of that person/country -  notice the vast propaganda campaign that has suddenly sprung up in britain in the last couple of weeks about senseless killings in nigeria (channel 4 and daily mail) the corruption of nigeria's leaders (bbc2 , oil and blood) all of this is deliberate it is  designed to garner support from the british public in order to justify any proposed military intervention on the part of britain or america on "humanitarian grounds".

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Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Nobody: 12:23pm On Apr 03, 2010
[/quote][quote author=tpia. link=topic=424233.msg5821596#msg5821596 date=1270275837]
nigger area is uncalled for and in very bad taste.

when oyibos and AAs call you the same then you start screaming.

Nigeria is named for the river Niger. They should have named the country after river Benue, I guess.

Or just stuck with western Sudan which is what the area was and is culturally.

Guinea has slave connotations but since some folks want to act like slaves, then maybe they should revert to their slave name.

some of these so called "youths" are way out of line.

Youths wey dey push 30 to 40 and still no sense.

You always comment with wisdom. There is never an excuse for criminality and mass murder.
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Nobody: 12:45pm On Apr 03, 2010
cap28:

thanks rossike, sometimes i feel as if im alone in my observations of what is going on in Nigeria but im glad you see what i see. 

iuse of propaganda where the western media continuosly demonises and caricatures the object of their attack in order to discredit and bring into disrepute the reputation of that person/country -  notice the vast propaganda

What we have is the Western media presenting a very unbalanced picture of the situation in Africa.
But the truth is that a lot of Nigerians who have not visited the country for a long time just tend to believe the image the Western media presents about their country.
And almost comically these people believe that the country was better off when they lived there.

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Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by 4peace(m): 1:20pm On Apr 03, 2010
Nigeria i pray for your development.I also pray to God to give me more understanding on how to help you my beloved country.
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Dede1(m): 1:37pm On Apr 03, 2010
ROSSIKE:

cap28 said:

cap28, you're the only person on this thread so far that's clued up. The rest are just thoughtless, feckless absorbers of any dubious western propaganda that finds its wretched way to their ears and eyes.

Quite how the unfortunate incident of 300 deaths in a specific community in a country of 150 million where the overwhelming majority live in peace with one other, suddenly translates to ''a descent into civil war'' is only something that the racist animals in western propaganda outfits called ''news organisations'' can possibly conjur.

The same people who assure us daily that Iraq and Afghanistan are ''on the way to peaceful democracy'' despite millions killed, and thousands slaughtered in 'suicide' bombs instigated by the western invaders, somehow managed to contrive that a few hundred killed in Jos spells the end of Nigeria as a nation.

It is the gullible fools among us who take these clowns seriously that I'm more concerned about.

Russia in the 20th century lost over 60 million lives to war, famine and brutal dictatorship, yet they came out of it and are standing strong today, as the world's second superpower.

Ask the idiots predicting calamity for Nigeria after 300 deaths if they've actually read the history of some of those nations they think are perfect.

My guess is they haven't.






A putrid-mouthed and dirty RoosterDrinker such as you who would rather prostrate than challenge the Europeans of their high-headedness would be the first to shout racism. When you mentioned the state of peacefulness in Nigeria and the progress located in country such as Russia that had recently reemerged from the peaceful disintegration of USSR in the same post, I detected your intellectual deficiency.

The cesspit called Nigeria has existed for 50 years and still can not maintain a functional hospital that can professionally administer codeine to its ailing President. It is only domesticated monkeys such as you could be wailed about what you referred as western propaganda against colonial failure such as Nigeria

Nobody is perfect under the sun. However, some countries have taken strides toward perfection but Nigeria continues to embark on strides toward insanity. I bet that jackasses such you would rely on the cries of racism when placed in your rightful corner by nationalistic individuals who have deemed it necessary to build a functional nation state different from the colonial contraption called Nigeria.

I guess that people who are adamantly agitating for disintegration of the geographical expression called Nigeria do so because of the missing nationalistic pride of being Nigerians. You should refrain from insulting people who would want to part ways with the jungle called Nigeria granted that a slimy lamb dung such you can never be better than the agitators. Only idiots in and from Nigeria would build their impression of Nigeria or become piqued through the so-called propaganda streaming out of European media.
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Nobody: 1:51pm On Apr 03, 2010
cap28:

use of propaganda where the western media continuosly demonises and caricatures the object of their attack in order to discredit and bring into disrepute the reputation of that person/country -  notice the vast propaganda campaign that has suddenly sprung up in britain in the last couple of weeks about senseless killings in nigeria (channel 4 and daily mail) the corruption of nigeria's leaders (bbc2 , oil and blood) all of this is deliberate it is  designed to garner support from the british public in order to justify any proposed military intervention on the part of britain or america on "humanitarian grounds".


Keep on blaming the west for your problems.

Others are moving on, Ghana is developing very fast, Cameroon is picking up, Kenya is like Heaven and so called Nigeria Giant of Africa is busy blaming outsiders when the real culprits, thieves and criminals are at home. !!
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Nobody: 1:55pm On Apr 03, 2010
@ROSSIKE


Not everyone is inclined to your politically correct, ear warming and unrealistic opinions.

Calling a spade a spade is what we need to  do.

Blaming the west for all the ills of our society is blatant ignorance and silly.
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Nobody: 1:56pm On Apr 03, 2010
ROSSIKE:

Ibime said:


Take your self-hating complex and stuff it up your dirty asss.

Don't try to rope us all into your diseased mental state.






Not everyone is inclined to your politically correct, ear warming and unrealistic opinions.

Calling a spade a spade is what we need to  do.

Blaming the west for all the ills of our society is blatant ignorance and silly.
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Nobody: 2:01pm On Apr 03, 2010
Dede1:


I guess that people who are adamantly agitating for disintegration of the geographical expression called Nigeria do so because of the missing nationalistic pride of being Nigerian.

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No amount of  concerted, cyber-based propaganda by hate-filled fascist reactionaries will stop the march of progress of Nigeria as one indissoluble entity.

There is no place in today's Africa for ethnically pure empires.

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Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Nobody: 2:03pm On Apr 03, 2010
tensor777:

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No amount of  concerted cyber-based propaganda by hate-filled fascist reactionaries will stop the march of progress of Nigeria as one indissoluble entity.
There is no place in today's Africa for ethnically pure empires.



100% agree.

But our problem is not Ethnic , it is religious and ideological, go figure.
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Mbeki: 2:47pm On Apr 03, 2010
Does anyone has the link to the said video on youtube?
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by cap28: 2:54pm On Apr 03, 2010
frosbel:

Keep on blaming the west for your problems.

Others are moving on, Ghana is developing very fast, Cameroon is picking up, Kenya is like Heaven and so called Nigeria Giant of Africa is busy blaming outsiders when the real culprits, thieves and criminals are at home. !!



frosbel if you had any sense you would go back and read about the history of western nations, have you heard of the berlin conference of 1884? - did you know that from that period onwards the white imperialists  attempted to map out africa's economic destiny?
Does it not occur to you that if a group of powerful nations could go as far as waging war against their own people over territory and resources  (world wars 1 and 2) within europe they would certainly do the same over territory and resources in africa and other parts of the world.  

Is it too much to ask that you for one minute pick up a book and actually read world history?

The thing you are totally oblivious to is the fact that africa is seen as nothing more than an unending supply of cheap natural resources to the white man and he is not prepared to let anything stand in his way to obtain this, do you think they see our humanity, do you think they care about our suffering, our terrible leaders - who incidentally are installed by them, - Guess what? They couldnt give a damn we are nothing to them , just objects.

These whites who you revere, regard africans with about as much importance as you would regard a speck of dust on your shirt - a minor irritation. So wake up and learn to see and understand outside the rigid box that you currently reside in .

Have you heard of the trilateral commission, the bilderberger group, the council on foreign relations?  Go and read up about these groups and find out how powerful they are and how to date they continue to control and dictate the economic policy of  many nations of this world.

You say Ghana is moving on - who are the major beneficiaries of this progress? - the ordinary Ghanaian people or the Ghanaian puppet govt installed by the US.

Cameroon - can they make autonomous economic decisions without having France breathing down their neck?

Kenya - you say its like heaven, for whom? the Kenyan people or the white british elite who have been dictating the economic policy of this country for over 60 years.  My sister did an exchange programme in Kenya in the 90's and she was appalled at the unequal distribution of wealth, this is how the Kenyan socio economic structure looks:

europeans/white americans  at the top - landowners, entrepreneurs, industrialists,

Tiny elite Kenyan ruling class - corrupt politicians who work in collaboration with the whites and asians to keep the indigenous populace in poverty.  

Asians - business owners and entrepeneurs

Majority of the black Kenyan population - poor peasantry who work for the above three  

would you be comfortable living as a black african in any of the above scenarios?

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Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Nobody: 3:38pm On Apr 03, 2010
cap28:

frosbel if you had any sense you would go back and read about the history of western nations, have you heard of the berlin conference of 1884? - did you know that from that period onwards the white imperialists  attempted to map out africa's economic destiny?
Does it not occur to you that if a group of powerful nations could go as far as waging war against their own people over territory and resources  (world wars 1 and 2) within europe they would certainly do the same over territory and resources in africa and other parts of the world.  

You better stop reading all those conspiracy theories all over the Internet. It might one day drive you mad.

I hope you are not an Alex Jones fan, he must be milking your dollars and millions of others while spouting conspiracy trash, such as:

1. 9/11 was an inside Job. grin grin grin grin

2. 7/7 in the UK was also an inside Job. grin grin grin

3. Google is watching us in our homes from space, lol. grin grin


and many other junk kinds of information.


We are responsible for our destiny and no one else, except you think that the Oyinbo man or the Chinese man is superior to us such that we cannot help but be held captive in this day and age against our will. Utter rubbish!!

No matter how much money Shell make, they can never stand in the way of a responsible government who wants to better the lives of its citizens. In fact they will respect that. But when they see the government treat its people like trash they obviously will do the same.

Look at Angola, oil found not long ago and they have a rapidly growing economy with solid infrastructure, look at Dubai where the west does big business, yet with the small oil they have, the economy and country have been transformed into a 21st century modern state.

It’s all about leadership and good leadership but also responsible and hardworking citizens with good moral ethic.
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Dede1(m): 3:45pm On Apr 03, 2010
tensor777:

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No amount of concerted, cyber-based propaganda by hate-filled fascist reactionaries will stop the march of progress of Nigeria as one indissoluble entity.

There is no place in today's Africa for ethnically pure empires.


I wonder who or what granted you the authority of an arbiter to decide what should be in place in Africa with respect to ethnically pure or impure empire.
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by ziga: 4:23pm On Apr 03, 2010
civil war ko, civil war ni?

Well, i can't blame the journalist. That was his point of view. And, i don't agree with his on the brink of a civil war conspiracy!
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Nobody: 4:59pm On Apr 03, 2010
There is no place in today's Africa for ethnically pure empires

even the nazis did not have an ethnically pure empire, so I dont know what kind of jargon a lot of internet users and especially Nigerians like spouting.

Ethnically pure = genocide at some point in time.

some people just type through their nether regions.

Rwanda only has two tribes- both engage in decimating each other periodically.



98% fail rate in NECO- it shows!!!

stupid people.
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by ikeyman00(m): 5:11pm On Apr 03, 2010
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nigeria is here to stay but many things has to change!!

the main wahala is the leadership

if only the understand the reason they are there in the first place

its about time the fg has to address all these pocket of incidence

this is what we should talking about as far as the ultimate truth is concerned

but then they talk like they know when the know nothing

as corrupt as the communist party is; the orderliness of china comes first

The fg is a joke and allah knows; that pepper soup house in aso rock they are all joke

so question now is- isnt time the arewa should do something; idotssssssssss and useless abokis
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Nobody: 5:14pm On Apr 03, 2010
tpia.:

even the nazis did not have an ethnically pure empire, so I dont know what kind of jargon a lot of internet users and especially Nigerians like spouting.
Ethnically pure = genocide at some point in time.
Rwanda only has two tribes- both engage in decimating each other periodically.
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I actually agree with your points. I  used that phrase to illustrate the cloud cuckoo land fantasies of the cyber warriors.
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by cap28: 5:17pm On Apr 03, 2010
frosbel:

You better stop reading all those conspiracy theories all over the Internet. It might one day drive you mad.

I hope you are not an Alex Jones fan, he must be milking your dollars and millions of others while spouting conspiracy trash, such as:

1. 9/11 was an inside Job. grin grin grin grin

2. 7/7 in the UK was also an inside Job. grin grin grin

3. Google is watching us in our homes from space, lol. grin grin


and many other junk kinds of information.


We are responsible for our destiny and no one else, except you think that the Oyinbo man or the Chinese man is superior to us such that we cannot help but be held captive in this day and age against our will. Utter rubbish!!

No matter how much money Shell make, they can never stand in the way of a responsible government who wants to better the lives of its citizens. In fact they will respect that. But when they see the government treat its people like trash they obviously will do the same.

Look at Angola, oil found not long ago and they have a rapidly growing economy with solid infrastructure, look at Dubai where the west does big business, yet with the small oil they have, the economy and country have been transformed into a 21st century modern state.

It’s all about leadership and good leadership but also responsible and hardworking citizens with good moral ethic.


if only it were that simple, in a utopian world yes i would agree that we are all masters of our own destiny, but unfortunately we dont live in  a utopian paradise where every man looks out for his fellow man - this is a dog eat dog world, its a world where cunning, treachery, skullduggery and wickedness are rife and where honest innocent people die for no just cause.

I have never said that the white man or chinese man is superior to us, but what i have said is that they have an agenda towards us which is not beneficial to the well being of our people, the chinese are actually a more humane in their dealings with africa because all they seem to want is to trade peacefully with us  the british and the americans on the other hand have imperialist ambitions and it doesnt matter how well meaning and confident we are as a race it will not help us, what will help us is military might combined with sound economic policies and good leadership, but this combination is not easy to acheive especially in a country as complex and diverse as nigeria, if we are fortunate to bring forth a good leader and beef up our military to prevent invasion from the americans, british or any other superpower then we are halfway there - this is what chavez has done

You say that Shell cannot stand in the way of a responsible govt who defies the west and puts its people first, you are grossly underestimating the power of multinational organisations -

if what you say is true  - why have there been numerous assassination attempts by the americans on Chavez's life following his nationalisation of Venezuela's oil industry?

also can you explain to me why mossadegh of Iran was overthrown by the british and americans after he nationalised the Anglo Iran oil company (now known as BP) which was formerly run and owned in its entirety by the british govt.  

how about the assassination of patrice lumumba of congo by the americans and the belgians following his rise to power and his promise to use the mineral wealth of congo for his people and not for the belgian and american multinational companies - are you aware that he was murdered by a belgian and american firing squad, his body dumped in the boot of a car and eventually burnt with acid in order to remove all traces of evidence implicating the americans/belgians?

how about the overthrow of Kwame Nkrumah of Ghana in 1966 by the americans following his meteoric rise to power and his declaration to halt the economic exploitation of his people.  

there are so many more examples in and outside africa.

you actually dont understand that western powers wage covert and overt  wars to oust "unfriendly" govts whose economic policies favour the indigenous people and adversely affect multinationals who are driven by profit and exploitation.

You talk about angola but again i ask you - who are the beneficiaries of the huge profits that this country is reaping from oil and gas contracts - the same ruling elite and not the average angolan on the street,

On paper, Angola is described as a middle-income country but 70 percent of its population live below the poverty line with life expectancy at  just 41.7 years.   there is a huge  disparity between those who have benefited from the boom, and the majority living on the land that have not, average annual income in Luanda last year was  just $201.

The capital has huge housing shortages and yet almost all of the construction being carried out is geared towards housing foreign visitors and the new ruling class.  

There are ongoing constructions of hotels along with marinas, golf courses and luxury flats - but again these are not intended for ordinary angolans but foreign investors.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/sep2008/ango-s04.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/World_News_3/The_exploitation_of_Africa_s_land_and_people_5661.shtml
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by nex(m): 5:27pm On Apr 03, 2010
Britain has long lost its importance in this world. Their economy grown by less than 1% in recent time. So rather than go down alone, they want to drag others with them.


Do the British sponsor wars all over the world? Have they sponsored war in Nigeria before? Within the last decade they've even tried to sponsor 2 bloody coups in Equatorial Guinea. It is the only thing that gives them a competitive edge over the other top economies in the world today.


There will be no bloody civil war in Nigeria. I really don't know when British media delved into soothsaying. They should know that very soon, it is themselves that will rise up in a bloody civil war against their Despotic Monarchy that has been there for ages living off the masses' sweat with nothing to show in return. Charles, Harry, Phillip, Elizabeth, William, they will all hang by the noose.

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Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by Nobody: 5:38pm On Apr 03, 2010
nex:


There will be no bloody civil war in Nigeria. I really don't know when British media delved into soothsaying.

Just to make the point that the opinion of one Channel 4 journalist does not constitute the mainstream view of the English media.
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by ikeyman00(m): 5:43pm On Apr 03, 2010
capuk
if only it were that simple, in a utopian world yes i would agree that we are all masters of our own destiny, but unfortunately we dont live in  a utopian paradise where every man looks out for his fellow man - this is a dog eat dog world, its a world where cunning, treachery, skullduggery and wickedness are rife and where honest innocent people die for no just cause.

I have never said that the white man or chinese man is superior to us, but what i have said is that they have an agenda towards us which is not beneficial to the well being of our people, the chinese are actually a more humane in their dealings with africa because all they seem to want is to trade peacefully with us  the british and the americans on the other hand have imperialist ambitions and it doesnt matter how well meaning and confident we are as a race it will not help us, what will help us is military might combined with sound economic policies and good leadership, but this combination is not easy to acheive especially in a country as complex and diverse as nigeria, if we are fortunate to bring forth a good leader and beef up our military to prevent invasion from the americans, british or any other superpower then we are halfway there - this is what chavez has done

You say that Shell cannot stand in the way of a responsible govt who defies the west and puts its people first, you are grossly underestimating the power of multinational organisations -

if what you say is true  - why have there been numerous assassination attempts by the americans on Chavez's life following his nationalisation of Venezuela's oil industry?

also can you explain to me why mossadegh of Iran was overthrown by the british and americans after he nationalised the Anglo Iran oil company (now known as BP) which was formerly run and owned in its entirety by the british govt. 

how about the assassination of patrice lumumba of congo by the americans and the belgians following his rise to power and his promise to use the mineral wealth of congo for his people and not for the belgian and american multinational companies - are you aware that he was murdered by a belgian and american firing squad, his body dumped in the boot of a car and eventually burnt with acid in order to remove all traces of evidence implicating the americans/belgians?

how about the overthrow of Kwame Nkrumah of Ghana  in 1966 by the americans following his meteoric rise to power and his declaration to halt the economic exploitation of his people. 

there are so many more examples in and outside africa.

you actually dont understand that western powers wage covert and overt  wars to oust "unfriendly" govts whose economic policies favour the indigenous people and adversely affect multinationals who are driven by profit and exploitation.

You talk about angola but again i ask you - who are the beneficiaries of the huge profits that this country is reaping from oil and gas contracts - the same ruling elite and not the average angolan on the street,

On paper, Angola is described as a middle-income country but 70 percent of its population live below the poverty line with life expectancy at  just 41.7 years.   there is a huge  disparity between those who have benefited from the boom, and the majority living on the land that have not, average annual income in Luanda last year was  just $201.

The capital has huge housing shortages and yet almost all of the construction being carried out is geared towards housing foreign visitors and the new ruling class. 

There are ongoing constructions of hotels along with marinas, golf courses and luxury flats - but again these are not intended for ordinary angolans but foreign investors.

so we as nigerians should fight like martin luter king to change things cuz of your write-ups

rubbish

like Obama said the world has changed and u got to accept that to those that pretend not to know
Re: Nigeria On The Brink Of A Bloody Civil War - UK's Channel 4 Predicts - Video by cap28: 5:52pm On Apr 03, 2010
ikeyman00:

capuk
so we as nigerians should fight like martin luter king to change things cuz of your write-ups

rubbish

like Obama said the world h change and u got to accept that to those that pretend not to know

thats your prerogative, but please then dont complain tomorrow when you cant feed your family because of the grim poverty and suffering you've been plunged into by the powers that be.

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