Markfemi2:


i won't join issue with tribe that's not up to 1m go and rescue your civilisation
All those brown roof towns are way wealthier and more advanced than the entire jos
If it's not bomb it's herdsman
Yoruba Muslims are great people who have their own leader in Ibadan
Unlike jos that has both Muslim and Christain and still lick the ass of sultan the last time I checked your members of arewa and should Nigeria split you have no where else to go

Lol
Seems you have forgotten Gowon that led civil war is from your state and you have audacity to say someone' supports war

Go and read your history before commenting

Yoruba man i dare you to show me which yoruba brown-roof town is more developed than Jos! Ogbomosho, Oshogbo, Abeokuta or Ibadan?
90% of Ibadan are dillapidated old rusty houses with pit latrines, dirt, shit and gutters everywhere.

Jos is far far comparatively beautiful, green, picturesque, very cool weather, very friendly indigenes and neater than any core- yoruba city. There are many yorubas in Jos who do not know where their villages are in the South-west because since their grand & great-grandfathers came to Jos they never went back to the godforsaken brown-roofs. Lol

Please leave Oshogbo and explore life for yourself!


There is only one major traditional ruler in Jos and he is the GBON GWOM JOS! Pls, how does the caliphate come into Jos? How do they influence Jos? Do they have any traditional rulers in Jos?

Where were you when middlebelt elders have been making it clear to the core-north that we are forming our own middlebelt country per-adventure break-up??

Gowon saved Nigeria from disintegrating and after the war, you coward yoruba majority group through Awolowo came to thank the north for sparing the lives of your people. The one Nigeria Gowon fought for, is it not the same one Nigeria you yoruba muslims always brag with and beg the Igbos not to have their own Biafra (always loosing sleep over Nnamdi Kanu)?

Gowon liberated the Eastern minorities from Igbo stronghold and till date they are grateful for it.

If not subsequent military leaders who created the stupid geo-political zones and so much proliferation of states today, Nigeria would have fared better with the first 12 states Gowon created.

AbakalikiPress:


I know what your exact problem is.
As the plateau man that you are, you know you have no future outside the North. You know you are caught up in the quagmire of Fulani and Northern domination forever, as such you are looking for other tribes be it middle-beltan or Fully Southern with parts in the "North" due to past injustices, to drag down into the pit with yourselves in your Northern wahala.
That is why you hate Fulani domination but at the same time have no problem saying that Yorubas in Kwara or Ilorin or Lokoja are under the dominion as "Properties of the Caliphate"

Middlebelt leaders came out recently to openly declare that we are not going to join Arewa peradventure break-up of Nigeria and this is what we have been saying. Have you ever heard any Hausa-fulani come out to challenge this submission?

That is the exact same reason most of you will always be against the idea of an Oduduwa or Biafra republic, because you need the southerners to check the balances of the north on your behalfs, else they'll suyanize you lot, isn't it?..

Hahahaha, seriously, i have never met dumb people like you guys!
Do you know that Tafawa balewa town in Bauchi state where the Hon Speaker (Yakubu Dogara) hails from is a no-go zone for Hausa-fulanis or any muslims? All muslims were cleansed out of that town in 2009 and till date no mosque can ever be built in that town!

Now, this is Bauchi state, a core muslim state with about 90% muslim population.

The entire Jaba LGA in Kaduna state does not have a single mosque standing as we are speaking. Every muslim or Hausa-fulani were chased away from the entire LGA in the post 2011 election violence and not just in Jaba alone, many other towns and LGAs in Southern Kaduna are like this.

Wukari is the largest city in Taraba state and in 90% of the city, there are no muslims or mosques anymore!

Shendam & Pankshin are the 2nd & 3rd largest towns in Plateau state. There is no mosque in the entire Pankshin town as we speak. I hope you remember the Shendam massacre of 2004 that was dealt to Hausas & muslims?

Middlebelters and Northern christians times without number have proven to be able to defend themselves when it comes to a full scale crisis or war.

With all the efforts to introduce Sharia law into Kaduna state, did it work? Did Southern kaduna people not hold their ground against it and equally dealt with Hausas in the subsequent crisis that divided Kaduna city?

Fulanis only succeed with attacks due to their hit & run tactics. This they also use in the South too and it worked for them.
Why did it not work for them in Taraba state? Cos they cannot run since they have villages and towns there. Shebi you can see the way hundreds of them were massacred recently? This is what usually happens whenever middlebelt tribes and Hausa-fulanis have a face-me-face-you war.
Free Grazing has been banned in Benue state and will be fully enforced very soon. Taraba state govt too is also about to implement theirs. Fulanis have been quiet in Plateau, but if they raise their head again, same thing will be enforced in Plateau. Now, let us see how their hit and run tactics will work anymore after they have been fully ranched and registered by the state.

Yoruba man, i dare you to show me any face-me-face-you crisis in the north where Hausa-fulanis have ever defeated any northern christian tribe. I dare you! But in far away yoruba land, they completely defeated you guys in Mile 12!

The first Nigerian lawyer to actually bring to the notice of the UN the Fulani killings in Southern Kaduna, which prompted the fact finding delegation that was sent to investigate what was actually going on was a Yoruba man. Yet you keep talking like we have actually done anything to wrong plateau or middle-belt people.
Examine your life bro, you have got serious problems.

Hahahaha, what stupidity. Crisis between our people and Hausa-fulanis did not start today! It started since the days of Danfodio. So, you want me to clap for you or that yoruba man for that?

I hope you know that during the Southern kaduna killings, any Hausa-fulani travelling to the north have to take the long route through Kwara to Niger state and then Kebbi-Sokoto, or through Plateau- Bauchi-Taraba-Gombe? They dare not pass through Kaduna villages cos the whole bus will be hijacked, all the Hausa muslims filtered out and killed?? Now, you won't hear this in media will you? When they also kill the fulanis you don't hear it on the media cos the fulanis don't have large settlements in anymore in those areas.

It is not Yorubas' fault that your actual indigenous language is now extinct or drawing closer to moribundity.

Languages die everywhere and everyday in the world. What matters the most is loss of identity. Niger deltans are also loosing their languages to pidgin, aren't they? Ijebus, Eguns, Aworis and many other yoruba sub-groups are also loosing their language to Oyo yoruba aren't they? But that doesn't make them Oyo people as long as they still know who they are.

Besides, almost every Plateau person you find can still speak his language, we still hold church services and even have bibles in most of our languages. Bauchi islamized tribes are the ones whose languages are facing extinction and not Plateau state languages please. Go to the villages if you will not hear the native languages!

Yoruba as a tribe was created by the British. Nothing of such ever existed. So all you have to do is thank the British for creating a yoruba tribe. It was never by the efforts of you warring South-western tribes who were killing each other in Kiriji wars and all manners before the white men came and called you all Yorubas.

Nowenuse:


So, are you saying that no yoruba lives were lost in Shagamu? The fight was not entirely one-sided. If you tell me Ife crisis was almost completely one-sided i can accept, but not Shagamu where there were also yoruba casualties.
Yorubas were almost completely wiped out of Kano that year in retaliation. Most of them had to run to Sabongari for Igbo & middlebelt christians protection. Lol. How many hausas were arrested and had to bail themselves?? Your own people are being arrested and have to bail themselves for defending their own land.

FYI, Plateau people and other northern christians do not live in Hausa quarters cos we don't trade like the hausas. So how could we be victims in yoruba land?

So what you are telling me now is that whenever there's a fight between yorubas and hausas in the north, the hausas simply massacre the yorubas there without suffering any casualties? But whenever there's a fight in shagamu we have both yoruba and hausa casualties?


I think you are sounding too desperate in a bid to prove hausa superiority when it comes to violence.. Whenever there's a fight there will be casualties on both sides but one tribe will surely have the upper hand.

Let me reiterate this again, an average OPC member doesn't even know the difference between hausa and fulani talkless of someone from Jos as long as you speak hausa then you are an hausa man... I'm just telling you the truth.. . It doesn't matter wherever you stay in the south west. . Infact not all hausas stay in sabo. . Whenever there's violence here you guys join your caliphate brothers in sharing the sorrows

Nowenuse:


Yoruba man i dare you to show me which yoruba brown-roof town is more developed than Jos! Ogbomosho, Oshogbo, Abeokuta or Ibadan?
90% of Ibadan are dillapidated old rusty houses with pit latrines, dirt, shit and gutters everywhere.

Jos is far far comparatively beautiful, green, picturesque, very cool weather, very friendly indigenes and neater than any core- yoruba city. There are many yorubas in Jos who do not know where their villages are in the South-west because since their grand & great-grandfathers came to Jos they never went back to the godforsaken brown-roofs. Lol

Please leave Oshogbo and explore life for yourself!


There is only one major traditional ruler in Jos and he is the GBON GWOM JOS! Pls, how does the caliphate come into Jos? How do they influence Jos? Do they have any traditional rulers in Jos?

Where were you when middlebelt elders have been making it clear to the core-north that we are forming our own middlebelt country per-adventure break-up??

Gowon saved Nigeria from disintegrating and after the war, you coward yoruba majority group through Awolowo came to thank the north for sparing the lives of your people. The one Nigeria Gowon fought for, is it not the same one Nigeria you yoruba muslims always brag with and beg the Igbos not to have their own Biafra (always loosing sleep over Nnamdi Kanu)?

Gowon liberated the Eastern minorities from Igbo stronghold and till date they are grateful for it.

If not subsequent military leaders who created the stupid geo-political zones and so much proliferation of states today, Nigeria would have fared better with the first 12 states Gowon created.

Seems like I over underestimate the level of your foolishness, I have always known you to be foolish right from Kenya VS Nigeria thread.
Let me quote my own mention.

@AbakalikiPress.

Just for the records as i told ODVanguard. No middlebelter gives a flying fvck about Kwara yorubas & Okuns. Especially the Okuns, what have they contributed to the North-central?

The only issue here is that Okuns will not be allowed to take Lokoja to the South-west. They cannot divide the capital city of Lokoja away to the South-west.
As for Ilorin people, they have never mentioned joining the South-west. So, that's their concern.

Besides i only mentioned Ilorin & Lokoja being properties of the caliphate to spite you brown-roofers cos it's obvious many of you think things are done by mouth alone. Much mouth and no action!

Also, Ilorin & Lokoja are developing fine without brown-roofs, we don't want you guys to brown-roofenize these cities as brown roof has become the South-western trademark

Nowenuse:


Lol. Honestly, is it just me or i have enough dullards to entertain me on this thread?

Kano city is the heart of Hausa land! Do you know that in Kano, no matter the heat of the crisis there, Hausa-fulanis can never take their madness to Sabon-gari? Igbos and other christians there will cure that madness for them.
The same thing with Wusasa in Zaria city (core hausa land), yet it is dominated by northern christians and Igbos. Hausas can never take their madness there no matter what. This is why i always advice you yorubas to leave your brown-roofs in Oshogbo, Ogbomosho and travel wide! ......Is that not the same case in Lagos where the Hausas defeated yorubas in Mile 12? Hausas have been showing themselves in Lagos in recent times and they keep on migrating to Lagos now more than ever. So, very soon, expect to see stronger cases than that of Mile 12.

Pls which ancestral lands in Jos were surrendered to Hausa-fulanis? Can you list them? Which city centre is dominated by Hausas? Is it Terminus? Why have the hausas not produced the Jos north chairman till now?
Can you list their traditional leaders and the political offices they dominate in Jos/Plateau?

Jos is enjoying peace today after the last time the indigenes rounded up all the Hausa-fulanis in a jumaat prayer ground, burnt them to ashes and ate their roasted meat . That was the last episode of conflict till now. Plus christians and Hausas no longer live together, so there is no need for a fight when you hardly see each other on daily basis.

And FYI, there is almost nowhere i haven't been to in the entire North-central my zone. I have been to Ilorin very very well. Many yorubas are now leaving their brown-roofs in the South-west to stay and school in Ilorin and this is why some of you fools think Ilorin is so yoruba. Meet most core Ilorin indigenes one on one and get the shock of your lives. Most of them do not even dress traditionally like yorubas.

Jos is still the most developed city in the entire North-central after Abuja. So i wonder where the war torn areas and contention is.
Leave your brown roofs in Oshogbo and travel out ejoo!

I know your fears, you are looking for accomplice to join you in your new country in the event of Nigeria eventually breaking up, because you are afraid of being enslave by the hausa Fulani.

I don't have to attend to your postulation let me just ask you series of questions and some comments

1, who dominate and lord over Jos north and Part of angwan donkey in Jos south, which you dare not visit?

2, Can you dare move anyhow in this part of Jos city: Masallachi jummat street, Ango rogo, nassarawa filling bali, Dilimi, gangere, adebayo street, part of Terminus and environ?

And you are forced to manage Tina junction, yantrailer, angwan rukuba, part of amy engineer and fudawa ring road in your ancestry land o?

3, And don't forget; You lost a senator and a house of reps member to this war. what have you done to retaliate this lost in this magnitude to the hausas?

And don't forget that the level of genocide Hausa Fulani herdmen perpetrated in Southern kaduna is a child play compare to the one they did on your people in Barkin ladi! I might be sounding inhuman here.


And your acknowledgement on how movements and guarantee of safety is limited in Kano, Kaduna and Jos and Plateau in general vindicate me of how your Jos and state being a war zone. Restrictions of movement and non guarantee on safety in a place are the characteristics of war zone areas.
Your statement on mile 12 crisis shows how dunce headed you are on Lagos.
You should note that in the entire SW, okunland and Kwara State there is no place a Muslim or Christian is barred from moving freely because of fear of being attack by one stupid religion fanatic.

Omofunaab2:



So what you are telling me now is that whenever there's a fight between yorubas and hausas in the north, the hausas simply massacre the yorubas there without suffering any casualties? But whenever there's a fight in shagamu we have both yoruba and hausa casualties?


I think you are sounding too desperate in a bid to prove hausa superiority when it comes to violence.. Whenever there's a fight there will be casualties on both sides but one tribe will surely have the upper hand.

Please go and ask of any history of crisis in the north from those who live there! Here is your fellow yoruba who has lived in the north. This is why i keep on telling your likes to leave Oshogbo for once!

myobjective:


I was a yoruba Muslim ( albeit a closet atheist now), you absolutely spot on some of the issues you raised above.
The problem is not that yoruba are caword but yoruba are liberal and peace loving people, majority of the yoruba in the north are only interested in how to make a meaningful living and as a result are caught un aware when their is a violence.

The truth is hausa-fulani use religion as a political tool to control others, this is one of the reasons why I have to do a more thorough research and analysis of the religion. Islam is a political tool used by the founder to plunder and steal things that doesn't belong to him, the hausa and fulani also use this method to plunder and steal what doesn't belongs to them.

I was born in the North, I grew up in the north and I have a great respect for northern minority in places like plateau, Kaduna, taraba, bauchi etc. These people are peace loving people, they receive a great deal of immigrants from yoruba, hausa and igbo but only the husas fight over things that don't belong to them.
The hausa-fulani through the help of the military dictator has established themselves in areas that doesn't belong to them, they abuse the indigenous, fight to grab land etc.

Most yoruba Muslim don't hass lick hausa-fulani in the north but we have some minority that does that but after the kano riot of 2001 many of these yoruba no better. If there is a problem in the North, I will rather side with a northern minority Christian than an hausa fulani.

Hausa fulani also kill minority like gwari Muslim, Igala Muslim, egbira Muslim etc if their is religious violence

Yorubas do not stand to defend themselves in the north by fighting back like the Igbos do. I really don't know why. I understand that yorubas are respectful and peaceful people compared to Igbos and Hausas (especially on others people soil). But shiit, sometimes, one has gotta man up.
The problem i think with many yoruba muslims in the north is that they think because they are muslims then Hausa-fulanis will spare them, but they usually get the shock of their lives! Unlike Igbos that know that Hausas hate them, so they are always prepared for anything.

That was how some yoruba muslims went to hide in a mosque during Kaduna crisis, thinking they were safe, only for the Hausas to go drag them out of the mosques and butcher them. Likewise in Jos. Some of them (yoruba muslims) will start reciting islamic recitations thinking Hausas will spare them once Hausas find them, only for them to be called Munafuqi (hypocrites/ fake muslims) by the Hausas and still killed. ........Honestly i feel pity for these yoruba muslims during crisis in the north. But they are the fools here for allowing fake religious bond that doesn't exist enslave them!

You can imagine the Sultan of Sokoto is adressed as the spiritual leader of all muslims in Nigeria. A permanent position. What nonsense!
Why have the almost 20 million yoruba muslims never challenged this nosense title and dissociate themselves? On what basis was the Sultan of Sokoto made the permanent head of all yoruba muslims? Where was the election done? 9jakool, Markfemi2, AbakalikiPress and all yoruba muslims here, please i need an explanation from you guys!! Cos these are the reasons why other Nigerians see yorubas as cowards.

Just see what happened recently where Buhari sent Sallah message from London in Hausa language! This made it so obvious that the Hausas naturally don't even care if yoruba muslims who do not speak Hausa existed! And you will never hear yoruba muslims condemn or challenge hausas. What kind of 2nd class status can ve worse than this. Tufiakwa!

Let me reiterate this again, an average OPC member doesn't even know the difference between hausa and fulani talkless of someone from Jos as long as you speak hausa then you are an hausa man... I'm just telling you the truth.. . It doesn't matter wherever you stay in the south west. . Infact not all hausas stay in sabo. . Whenever there's violence here you guys join your caliphate brothers in sharing the sorrows

And that is what i am telling you! Most Plateau people in the South are educated and do not appear as Hausa-fulani muslims!
Our ladies and guys mostly dress like Southerners with jeans, gowns and western clothes always. We don't flaunt kaftans and hijabs like Hausa-fulanis. We don't do shoe making, mai ruwa, sell onions, carrots, mai shayi. We don't hawk. We rent houses among other residents. We do not live in seclusions and market/cattle communities like the Hausas do in the South! We worship in different normal churches with everyone else. So, we can not be easy targets for OPC members! Simple!

Nowenuse:


Please go and ask of any history of crisis in the north from those who live there! Here is your fellow yoruba who has lived in the north. This is why i keep on telling your likes to leave Oshogbo for once!



Yorubas do not stand to defend themselves in the north by fighting back like the Igbos do. I really don't know why. I understand that yorubas are respectful and peaceful people compared to Igbos and Hausas (especially on others people soil). But shiit, sometimes, one has gotta man up.
The problem i think with many yoruba muslims in the north is that they think because they are muslims then Hausa-fulanis will spare them, but they usually get the shock of their lives! Unlike Igbos that know that Hausas hate them, so they are always prepared for anything.

That was how some yoruba muslims went to hide in a mosque during Kaduna crisis, thinking they were safe, only for the Hausas to go drag them out of the mosques and butcher them. Likewise in Jos. Some of them (yoruba muslims) will start reciting islamic recitations thinking Hausas will spare them once Hausas find them, only for them to be called Munafuqi (hypocrites/ fake muslims) by the Hausas and still killed. ........Honestly i feel pity for these yoruba muslims during crisis in the north. But they are the fools here for allowing fake religious bond that doesn't exist enslave them!

You can imagine the Sultan of Sokoto is adressed as the spiritual leader of all muslims in Nigeria. A permanent position. What nonsense!
Why have the almost 20 million yoruba muslims never challenged this nosense title and dissociate themselves? On what basis was the Sultan of Sokoto made the permanent head of all yoruba muslims? Where was the election done? 9jakool, Markfemi2, AbakalikiPress and all yoruba muslims here, please i need an explanation from you guys!! Cos these are the reasons why other Nigerians see yorubas as cowards.

Just see what happened recently where Buhari sent Sallah message from London in Hausa language! This made it so obvious that the Hausas naturally don't even care if yoruba muslims who do not speak Hausa existed! And you will never hear yoruba muslims condemn or challenge hausas. What kind of 2nd class status can ve worse than this. Tufiakwa!



And that is what i am telling you! Most Plateau people in the South are educated and do not appear as Hausa-fulani muslims!
Our ladies and guys mostly dress like Southerners with jeans, gowns and western clothes always. We don't flaunt kaftans and hijabs like Hausa-fulanis. We don't do shoe making, mai ruwa, sell onions, carrots, mai shayi. We don't hawk. We rent houses among other residents. We do not live in seclusions and market/cattle communities like the Hausas do in the South! We worship in different normal churches with everyone else. So, we can not be easy targets for OPC members! Simple!

You are spot on, on some of the issues you raised here but I will indulge you to reduce some of the insult bro.

I have serious problem with yorubas that believe religion is a binding factors between us and the Hausa-fulanis. Some of these yorubas assimilate and behave like Hausa Fulani just to be accepted by them, the group mostly quilty of this offence are not even the so called northern yorubas like ilorin yorubas but mostly OGBOMOSHO (OYO STATE). These set of yorubas assimilate, speak Hausas, sometime they even deny their yoruba ethnic group just to attract cheap sympathy from hausa Fulani.

All what the Yorubas need to learn is the Hausas will never see themselves as equal to the yorubas.
Yorubas were Muslim even before many of the so called Hausa accepted Islam, Yoruba Muslim should never play second fiddle to mostly violent Hausa Fulani.
I don't accept sadauna of Sokoto as my leader, I don't accept a second class status for been a Yoruba Muslim.

Many yorubas in the north have learnt their lesson and they have started living in community with exclusively fellow yorubas, northern minorities and other southerners, they know that an Hausa man is not their friend because of religion.

Nowenuse:


Please go and ask of any history of crisis in the north from those who live there! Here is your fellow yoruba who has lived in the north. This is why i keep on telling your likes to leave Oshogbo for once!



Yorubas do not stand to defend themselves in the north by fighting back like the Igbos do. I really don't know why. I understand that yorubas are respectful and peaceful people compared to Igbos and Hausas (especially on others people soil). But shiit, sometimes, one has gotta man up.
The problem i think with many yoruba muslims in the north is that they think because they are muslims then Hausa-fulanis will spare them, but they usually get the shock of their lives! Unlike Igbos that know that Hausas hate them, so they are always prepared for anything.

That was how some yoruba muslims went to hide in a mosque during Kaduna crisis, thinking they were safe, only for the Hausas to go drag them out of the mosques and butcher them. Likewise in Jos. Some of them (yoruba muslims) will start reciting islamic recitations thinking Hausas will spare them once Hausas find them, only for them to be called Munafuqi (hypocrites/ fake muslims) by the Hausas and still killed. ........Honestly i feel pity for these yoruba muslims during crisis in the north. But they are the fools here for allowing fake religious bond that doesn't exist enslave them!

You can imagine the Sultan of Sokoto is adressed as the spiritual leader of all muslims in Nigeria. A permanent position. What nonsense!
Why have the almost 20 million yoruba muslims never challenged this nosense title and dissociate themselves? On what basis was the Sultan of Sokoto made the permanent head of all yoruba muslims? Where was the election done? 9jakool, Markfemi2, AbakalikiPress and all yoruba muslims here, please i need an explanation from you guys!! Cos these are the reasons why other Nigerians see yorubas as cowards.

Just see what happened recently where Buhari sent Sallah message from London in Hausa language! This made it so obvious that the Hausas naturally don't even care if yoruba muslims who do not speak Hausa existed! And you will never hear yoruba muslims condemn or challenge hausas. What kind of 2nd class status can ve worse than this. Tufiakwa!



And that is what i am telling you! Most Plateau people in the South are educated and do not appear as Hausa-fulani muslims!
Our ladies and guys mostly dress like Southerners with jeans, gowns and western clothes always. We don't flaunt kaftans and hijabs like Hausa-fulanis. We don't do shoe making, mai ruwa, sell onions, carrots, mai shayi. We don't hawk. We rent houses among other residents. We do not live in seclusions and market/cattle communities like the Hausas do in the South! We worship in different normal churches with everyone else. So, we can not be easy targets for OPC members! Simple!

An average southerner can differentiate between an Hausa Fulani from many northern minorities because the manotities mingle more, are more educated, assimilate more and they are more tolerant. The middle beltans are one of the most wonderful people I have ever come across, I have some of them during my university days. They have wonderful work ethics, more tolerant religious wise and generally more similar to south westerners than core northerners.

We need more alliance with middle beltans, we need them for the arable land, we need to build political and economic bridge with them. The middle belt also need the yorubas because we have access to the sea, peace loving people and we share slot in common with you guys. I will beg you to stop all these e insult so that we can focus more on our common enemy

Nowenuse:


[s] Please go and ask of any history of crisis in the north from those who live there! Here is your fellow yoruba who has lived in the north. This is why i keep on telling your likes to leave Oshogbo for once!



Yorubas do not stand to defend themselves in the north by fighting back like the Igbos do. I really don't know why. I understand that yorubas are respectful and peaceful people compared to Igbos and Hausas (especially on others people soil). But shiit, sometimes, one has gotta man up.
The problem i think with many yoruba muslims in the north is that they think because they are muslims then Hausa-fulanis will spare them, but they usually get the shock of their lives! Unlike Igbos that know that Hausas hate them, so they are always prepared for anything.

That was how some yoruba muslims went to hide in a mosque during Kaduna crisis, thinking they were safe, only for the Hausas to go drag them out of the mosques and butcher them. Likewise in Jos. Some of them (yoruba muslims) will start reciting islamic recitations thinking Hausas will spare them once Hausas find them, only for them to be called Munafuqi (hypocrites/ fake muslims) by the Hausas and still killed. ........Honestly i feel pity for these yoruba muslims during crisis in the north. But they are the fools here for allowing fake religious bond that doesn't exist enslave them!

You can imagine the Sultan of Sokoto is adressed as the spiritual leader of all muslims in Nigeria. A permanent position. What nonsense!
Why have the almost 20 million yoruba muslims never challenged this nosense title and dissociate themselves? On what basis was the Sultan of Sokoto made the permanent head of all yoruba muslims? Where was the election done? 9jakool, Markfemi2, AbakalikiPress and all yoruba muslims here, please i need an explanation from you guys!! Cos these are the reasons why other Nigerians see yorubas as cowards.

Just see what happened recently where Buhari sent Sallah message from London in Hausa language! This made it so obvious that the Hausas naturally don't even care if yoruba muslims who do not speak Hausa existed! And you will never hear yoruba muslims condemn or challenge hausas. What kind of 2nd class status can ve worse than this. Tufiakwa!



And that is what i am telling you! Most Plateau people in the South are educated and do not appear as Hausa of muslims!
Our ladies and guys mostly dress like Southerners with jeans, gowns and western clothes always. We don't flaunt kaftans and hijabs like Hausa-fulanis. We don't do shoe making, mai ruwa, sell onions, carrots, mai shayi. We don't hawk. We rent houses among other residents. We do not live in seclusions and market/cattle communities like the Hausas do in the South! We worship in different normal churches with everyone else. So, we can not be easy targets for OPC members! Simple![/s]

I have always known you to be one stupid cretin who loves arguing back and forth without saying anything meaningful other than ranting, and writing postulations right from that stupid thread created by shallow minded tonyebacanista comparing Nigeria with Kenya and how the Kenyan, Indian guys and south African ladies exposing how dunce you are.

You should better leave other North Central states out of your war and face the Hausa Fulani predators who have succeeded in turning your ancestral land to war zone, where movement is restricted and safety not guaranteed.

Nowenuse:
@AbakalikiPress.

Just for the records as i told ODVanguard. No middlebelter gives a flying fvck about Kwara yorubas & Okuns. Especially the Okuns, what have they contributed to the North-central?

The only issue here is that Okuns will not be allowed to take Lokoja to the South-west. They cannot divide the capital city of Lokoja away to the South-west.
As for Ilorin people, they have never mentioned joining the South-west. So, that's their concern.

Besides i only mentioned Ilorin & Lokoja being properties of the caliphate to spite you brown-roofers cos it's obvious many of you think things are done by mouth alone. Much mouth and no action!

Also, Ilorin & Lokoja are developing fine without brown-roofs, we don't want you guys to brown-roofenize these cities as brown roof has become the South-western trademark

Your comments are not only very rude but a complet demonstration of inadequate sense of history and Geography, it is a big concern to we of Yorùbá extraction from Kogi and Kwara state.

You have innocently asked what are the contributions of Yorùbás to Middlebelt? Perhaps, I should ask you the contribution of your tribe to Middlebelt? I strongly suspect though that you are not from Middlebelt and therefore you simply deserve no response.
As per the boundaries of Yoruba towards the northern hemisphere in this country, be not in doubt nor deceived by Britain's deliberate malicious demarcation of the the Northern boundary. The South West stretch from Jebba in Kwara state to Lokoja in Kogi State.You may wish to visit Jebba to confirm their history and mother's tongue and if you have ever heard of the Oworos in Kogi State, they own Obajana. A(Obajana is a Yoruba name, the stretch of the land ends in Lokoja.

Also note the in Geography, river is a natural boundary and international river like Niger is no less.

I would have love to explain further but I could sense hatred from your comment toward my people, perhaps born out of your general hatred for the Yorùbás.

myobjective:


You are spot on, on some of the issues you raised here but I will indulge you to reduce some of the insult bro.

I have serious problem with yorubas that believe religion is a binding factors between us and the Hausa-fulanis. Some of these yorubas assimilate and behave like Hausa Fulani just to be accepted by them, the group mostly quilty of this offence are not even the so called northern yorubas like ilorin yorubas but mostly OGBOMOSHO (OYO STATE). These set of yorubas assimilate, speak Hausas, sometime they even deny their yoruba ethnic group just to attract cheap sympathy from hausa Fulani.

All what the Yorubas need to learn is the Hausas will never see themselves as equal to the yorubas.
Yorubas were Muslim even before many of the so called Hausa accepted Islam, Yoruba Muslim should never play second fiddle to mostly violent Hausa Fulani.
I don't accept sadauna of Sokoto as my leader, I don't accept a second class status for been a Yoruba Muslim.

Many yorubas in the north have learnt their lesson and they have started living in community with exclusively fellow yorubas, northern minorities and other southerners, they know that an Hausa man is not their friend because of religion.

I doubt your Yorubaness, dozens of your likes have been busted here on this thread and if you are you are ọmọ ale. You should better face the hausa Fulani army killing your people if you are liepod tout or better still face the hausa and Fulani who have succeeded in turning your states to war torn area if you are from benue or plateau state.

myobjective:


An average southerner can differentiate between an Hausa Fulani from many northern minorities because the manotities mingle more, are more educated, assimilate more and they are more tolerant. The middle beltans are one of the most wonderful people I have ever come across, I have some of them during my university days. They have wonderful work ethics, more tolerant religious wise and generally more similar to south westerners than core northerners.

We need more alliance with middle beltans, we need them for the arable land, we need to build political and economic bridge with them. The middle belt also need the yorubas because we have access to the sea, peace loving people and we share slot in common with you guys. I will beg you to stop all these e insult so that we can focus more on our common enemy

This is one of the unity begging associated with many yorubas on this forum that i dread so much.. .. . Someone insulted the hell out of your tribe without any apologies and you here trying to negotiate peace with the same man.. you are even forming "yorubas are tolerant bullshit" Don't you get it? The dude has been abusing yorubas for so long on this thread claiming they are cowards.. . Well, where I come from in yoruba land, we don't tolerate shiit from anybody.. And you can't even hear of any foreigner making noise here.

realjoker:


Hahaha. I don't like doing this but your ill manner attitude about Ilorin tempt me. Guy stop deluding yourself about Ilorin, I know your knowledge about Ilorin is limited to nairaland. And on Hausa or Fulani not being able to move in some places in Jos is the same way you dare not move in Hausa or Fulani area, your city center inclusive.
Countless of your local chiefs were butchered and 95% of your entire state turned to war zone what have you done about it rather than surrounding your ancestral land to the Hausa and Fulanis? even though I am against Hausa and Fulani actions on this.
And you failed to mention that the little pseudo-peace you enjoy in Jos today is do to your state governor and people surrendering your ancestral lands to Hausa and Fulani people and you dare not visit those area. And on Saraki having a Fulani ancestry is one of the lies turned truth after being repeated over and over again. I am 99% sure you have never been to Ilorin before, face your war torn Jos and Plateau in general Ilorin is not under contention rather Plateau is.

I don't like involving in these issues, but man, you are too ignorant for your own good.

Jos and the entire Plateau is entirely in the hands of plateau people, so I don't get the contention you speak of.

Your entire comment makes a mockery of the little education you have.

Omofunaab2:



This is one of the unity begging associated with many yorubas on this forum that i dread so much.. .. . Someone insulted the hell out of your tribe without any apologies and you here trying to negotiate peace with the same man.. you are even forming "yorubas are tolerant bullshit" Don't you get it? The dude has been abusing yorubas for that since on this thread claiming they are cowards.. . Well, where I come from in yoruba land, we don't tolerate shit from anybody.. And you can't even hear of any foreigner making noise here.

FYI, we don't need Plateau state.. .

So you want to insult an entire people on account of the opinion of just one man? Oga o.

aolawale025:
Those are the issues a proper restructuring would address. An okun is ethnically yoruba but he is classified as a northerner. So he's neither here nor there in terms of benefits.

Ndigbo do not give a ratass about your ethnical restructure of Niger-Area. Ndigbo are simply interested in equity of economic infrastructure. There must be a Lagos or Abuja in the defunct eastern or midwestern regions respectively. Every military academy in the northern region of Nigeria must be situated in eastern region. Quota system must jettison and replaced with merit-based system. The institutionalized discrimination known as federal character must be killed. It funny that fools in Nigeria talk about federal character when there is no federalism.

coptic:


So you want to insult an entire people on account of the opinion of just one man? Oga o.

I know you are from Plateau state, but have you made attempts to scold your fellow tribesman for many of his unguided utterances here?

coptic:


I don't like involving in these issues, but man, you are too ignorant for your own good.

Jos and the entire Plateau is entirely in the hands of plateau people, so I don't get the contention you speak of.

Your entire comment makes a mockery of the little education you have.

You dare not say this in Jos North or else you will be leech.

coptic:


So you want to insult an entire people on account of the opinion of just one man? Oga o.

Seems like you are a gentleman but call your loudmouthed kinsman to order and make sure you make provision for his rehabilitation in a rehab center.

Omofunaab2:



I know you are from Plateau state, but have you made attempts to scold your fellow tribesman for many of his unguided utterances here?

I have not.

But that's largely because he's his own person. I can't tell him what to do or not.

I for one have great respect and admiration for the Yoruba so much that I've been wrongly labelled as Yoruba on here. How then do you relate that?

I have never had any issues with a Yoruba person nor has anyone around me. Should I then be made to suffer the same fate as one who may have personal issues with some?

This is an isolated issue. Meanwhile, I apologize for the anger his comments might have stirred.

We should all know better than to put everyone in small boxes.

realjoker:
Seems like you are a gentleman but call your loudmouthed kinsman to order and make sure you make provision for his rehabilitation in a rehab center.

Lol. See as u dey make me laugh this night.

Dedetwo:


[s] Ndigbo do not give a ratass about your ethnical restructure of Niger-Area. Ndigbo are simply interested in equity of economic infrastructure. There must be a Lagos or Abuja in the defunct eastern or midwestern regions respectively. Every military academy in the northern region of Nigeria must be situated in eastern region. Quota system must jettison and replaced with merit-based system. The institutionalized discrimination known as federal character must be killed. It funny that fools in Nigeria talk about federal character when there is no federalism. [/s]

What is this brainwashed liepod yoot saying?

realjoker:
I doubt your Yorubaness, dozens of your likes have been busted here on this thread and if you are you are ọmọ ale. You should better face the hausa Fulani army killing your people if you are liepod tout or better still face the hausa and Fulani who have succeeded in turning your states to war torn area if you are from benue or plateau state.

Oga! I am original "omo Karo ojire" I am pure Yoruba and a very proud one, I have been living in the north all my life so, I can relate to what the guy typed. He might exaggerated some of his point but he has a very good point.

People don't know that yorubas are more than igbos inoat northern city, yorubas travelled a lot contrary to some what some iPod youth used to say here. For example, one can survive in a city like Minna is one can speak Yoruba language alone because of the large number of yoryba people there. The truth these yorubas need to break away from algae alliance with Hausa Fulani, they don't see us as their friend and we should be ready to defend ourselves against this people.

Yorubas are not coward, we have fought so many wars even before the coming of the colonial masters, we have built better empire than any group in Nigeria w shouldn't relegate ourselves to people core Northerner can easily bossed around, we should be prepare to defend both home and abroad against any group be it Hausas or igbo

coptic:


Lol. See as u dey make me laugh this night.

Lol.. You need and deserve it, keep smiling and laughing.

realjoker:
You dare not say this in Jos North or else you will be leech.

Jos north, you say?

Secret secret, bro, it was in that same Jos north that the Muslims were roasted alive for suya. Their concentration along the commercial areas of the city gives an illusory image of their numbers in Jos North, which isn't the case.

Funny enough, the present lands they occupy are about the only space they have got, as nobody sells them lands again in Jos ever since they were found out.

Omofunaab2:



This is one of the unity begging associated with many yorubas on this forum that i dread so much.. .. . Someone insulted the hell out of your tribe without any apologies and you here trying to negotiate peace with the same man.. you are even forming "yorubas are tolerant bullshit" Don't you get it? The dude has been abusing yorubas for so long on this thread claiming they are cowards.. . Well, where I come from in yoruba land, we don't tolerate shiit from anybody.. And you can't even hear of any foreigner making noise here.

I am sorry also if you misunderstood my intentions, I am not a unity begger, I believe the yoruba nation will do better by standing alone (with our brothers in the so called middle belt, I am part kwara), I will support oduduwa republic any day but at this point of our national life we can't keep making enemies everywhere repeating the mistakes of the igbos.

I don't like most of insult he was throwing around but I never wanted to heat up the discussion, I don't know what transpired between both of you so I don't want to take side. Most of the middle beltans I have met, respect us Yoruba and they always say yorubas are peaceful and progressive either Muslim or Christian, so I can't abuse his tribe based on his conversation here with you guys

realjoker:
Lol.. You need and deserve it, keep smiling and laughing.

Hehe. Thanks!

myobjective:


Oga! I am original "omo Karo ojire" I am pure Yoruba and a very proud one, I have been living in the north all my life so, I can relate to what the guy typed. He might exaggerated some of his point but he has a very good point.

People don't know that yorubas are more than igbos inoat northern city, yorubas travelled a lot contrary to some what some iPod youth used to say here. For example, one can survive in a city like Minna is one can speak Yoruba language alone because of the large number of yoryba people there. The truth these yorubas need to break away from algae alliance with Hausa Fulani, they don't see us as their friend and we should be ready to defend ourselves against this people.

Yorubas are not coward, we have fought so many wars even before the coming of the colonial masters, we have built better empire than any group in Nigeria w shouldn't relegate ourselves to people core Northerner can easily bossed around, we should be prepare to defend both home and abroad against any group be it Hausas or igbo

I was born and raised in the North and I have stayed and visited many of the northern states and I have a first hand experience of what is happening. And you saying Yoruba and Hausa being in alliance shows you don't know your history, you needs to restudy your history.

realjoker:
I was also bore and raised in the North and also note: I have stayed and visited many part of the northern states and I have a first hand experience of what is happening. And you saying Yoruba and Hausa being in alliance shows you don't know your history, you needs to restudy your history.

I know that we have always been in opposition and it was necessary we teamed up with them to chased away the ''clueless Jonathan '' . I know my history so well.

myobjective:


Oga! I am original "omo Karo ojire" I am pure Yoruba and a very proud one, I have been living in the north all my life so, I can relate to what the guy typed. He might exaggerated some of his point but he has a very good point.

People don't know that yorubas are more than igbos inoat northern city, yorubas travelled a lot contrary to some what some iPod youth used to say here. For example, one can survive in a city like Minna is one can speak Yoruba language alone because of the large number of yoryba people there. The truth these yorubas need to break away from algae alliance with Hausa Fulani, they don't see us as their friend and we should be ready to defend ourselves against this people.

Yorubas are not coward, we have fought so many wars even before the coming of the colonial masters, we have built better empire than any group in Nigeria w shouldn't relegate ourselves to people core Northerner can easily bossed around, we should be prepare to defend both home and abroad against any group be it Hausas or igbo

Now, you are talking. .. If you had said this earlier maybe i won't have replied you the way i did... The guy was attacking yoruba and you kept agreeing with him. you made it look like yorubas were some kind of conquered tribe in the north.. We really need to drop this "tolerance bullshit", some of them see it as cowardice besides the guy was indirectly abusing you but you kept agreeing with him.. We have crossed that bridge, we no longer reply hatred with love, neither do we reply war with peace.


Well, I'm sorry for my earlier remark

coptic:


Jos north, you say?

Secret secret, bro, it was in that same Jos north that the Muslims were roasted alive for suya. Their concentration along the commercial areas of the city gives an illusory image of their numbers in Jos North, which isn't the case.

Funny enough, the present lands they occupy are about the only space they have got, as nobody sells them lands again in Jos ever since they were found out.

You are a gentleman. Don't let me go into deep arguments with you on this, I attack your state in the first place do to the action of your loudmouthed kinsman.

Omofunaab2:



Now, you are talking. .. If you had said this earlier maybe i won't have replied you the way i did... The guy was attacking yoruba and you kept agreeing him. you made it look like yorubas were some kind of conquered tribe in the north.. We really need to drop this "tolerance bullshit", some of them see it as cowardice besides the guy was indirectly abusing you but you kept agreeing with him.. We have crossed that bridge when, we no longer reply hatred with love, neither do we reply war with peace.


Well, I'm sorry for my earlier remark

No problem sir.....
You are doing a great job here and I think we need to take this out of nairaland to our respective yoruba communities for more people to be aware of what is going on