[quote author=aSuperS1Panther post=58156121]

When your fathers ran away from SW during June 12 saga, we are the ones that confronted your so called abokis, demystified their northern oligarchy, IBB ran awy from Aso Rock, Abacha died in Aso rock and they had no choice than to concede power to us. [ot]U chased ibb with yoruba AK 47 mouth ba?

SuperS1Panther:

What is wrong with Ilorin?

you failed to mention if you will cede it to the north or not

Eastfield1:

you failed to mention if you will cede it to the north or not

have you been to Ilorin before?

SuperS1Panther:
No dot of our ancestors' soil will be ceded to the North.

From Kabba to Epe, Jebba to Ese Odo, and Saki to Ore -- all will be excised into our region or nation.

Lokoja is a Yoruba town...dont leave it behind.

MetaPhysical:


Lokoja is a Yoruba town...dont leave it behind.

Lokoja is not but Ajaokuta is.

No way.

The Same Kogi and Kwara will, that easily work with North?

SuperS1Panther:


When your fathers ran away from SW during June 12 saga, we are the ones that confronted your so called abokis, demystified their northern oligarchy, IBB ran awy from Aso Rock, Abacha died in Aso rock and they had no choice than to concede power to us.

lolz propaganda as usual.U 4got to add that it was general diya(the weeping general) tha killed abacha...

Al mustapha is still out der,lolz after wat he did to kudirat abiola, or is it that one dat took rat poison cos of IBB lolz

Pls go and demystified them in ilorin and claim back ur land

SuperS1Panther:

have you been to Ilorin before?

Nekwanu Ajuju n'enu Ajuju

[s]

nototribalist:
you see am, una no wan give credit to the hero anymore. After una go say una get sense. It's like you've taken your toilet broom soup today again.

[/s]flat headed cannibals will never make sense.

They are cursed to walk the earth with compressed brains.

After eating the cannibal soup below, they start yapping dust on the internet.

sEGXY2:
All hail the great Oduduwa nation!

Unlike the other group we don't have to start staging violent protest and spewing hate statement before we get our own nation when we want it cos we'll get it on a platter of gold, that's sophistication.

The Okun and Kwarans has and will always be loyal to our brothers in the west, check election results if you're skeptical.

Omoluabi reporting from Egbe, kogi state.

maybe b'cos your 'nation' is unimportant. Good things don't come easily.

I am still waiting for the Yoruba to thank Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB for this.

Without Nnamdi Kanu, these groups would not be saying anything.

EvilMetahuman:
flat headed cannibals will never make sense.

They are cursed to walk the earth with compressed brains.

After eating the cannibal soup below, they start yapping dust on the internet.

Damn bro! You mean to tell me that some people actually consume that soup sheet that looks like the last poo that came out of my a$$?? Like seriously? Ewwww.

SuperS1Panther:


Lokoja is not but Ajaokuta is.

Lokoja is a Yoruba town own' by Oworo(weak hand) people. They are also part of Okun but under a local government that is not fully occupied by Okuns unlike other 5LGA' in Kogi that are 100% Okuns.
Ajaokuta is a Yoruba name bt not a Yoruba town. Ajaokuta is fully Ebira town.

sEGXY2:
All hail the great Oduduwa nation!

Unlike the other group we don't have to start staging violent protest and spewing hate statement before we get our own nation when we want it cos we'll get it on a platter of gold, that's sophistication.

The Okun and Kwarans has and will always be loyal to our brothers in the west, check election results if you're skeptical.

Omoluabi reporting from Egbe, kogi state.

Wagbayi kun!

Seun, lalasticlala and mynd44... This is front page material na. Please do the needfull.

wizzakosh:
That is your normal assignment. To post picture. Laterin poo eater

Damn! So irritating!!!

Deedeedee3:

Who da hell is Nnamdu kanu? And who told you Yorubas give a fucckk about him?

The fact is Nnamdi Kanu is giving you hydraulic toilet broom soup drinkers nightmare. Just yesterday an ewedu eater in the name of OBJ has this to say
http://www.socialtimesng.net/2017/07/stop-ipob-face-another-civil-war-obasanjo-fg/

ZZ22:
The fact is Nnamdi Kanu is giving you hydraulic toilet broom soup drinkers nightmare. Just yesterday an ewedu eater in the name of OBJ has this to say
http://www.socialtimesng.net/2017/07/stop-ipob-face-another-civil-war-obasanjo-fg/

Mr man, like i told you before, Yorubas dont give a fuucck about your stupid God call Nmadi or whatever

Guseh:


Lokoja is a Yoruba town own' by Oworo(weak hand) people. They are also part of Okun but under a local government that is not fully occupied by Okuns unlike order 5LGA' in Kogi that are 100% Okuns.
Ajaokuta is a Yoruba name bt not a Yoruba town. Ajaokuta is fully Ebira town.

I also agree that Lokoja is an Oworo town, especially judging by how it's mainly sorrounded by other Oworo settlements. Lokoja is surrounded to the North and West by Oworo people and to the East by the Niger river. The only border that's neither an Oworo nor a geographical border is the Southern border which is Ebira.


The Igala claim to the Lokoja is futile as the Igala actually largely settled on the Eastern bank of the Niger. The closest areas to Lokoja across the Niger is occupied by Bassa-komo, Bassa-Nge, and Ebira Koto peoples in Bassa lga, which is the local government area directly east of Lokoja. There are no Igala lgas that border Lokoja lga at all.

I think the weakest claim to the city is the one by Hausas. The obvious reason is because Hausaland in Nigeria is limited to the core north and Lokoja does not form a contiguous border with Hausaland. Also the name Lokoja phonetically is odd in Hausa. In the Hausa language, the open "O" found in LOkOja is absent in Hausa language; the "O" in Hausa is more closed and similar to the "O" in Ocean.

Anyways, I believe the Okun can stand alone as a state. The population of Okunland in Kogi state as of now should be between 1-1.5 million. If you also include Okun(Yagba) towns in Kwara like Eruku and Koro as well as other Okun towns in Northeastern Ekiti state like Aiyede, Itapaji, etc and I think(i don't know) to an extent to the border parts of Akoko Ondo; then an inclusive Okun state can have a population that approaches 2 million. I think this is enough for a state. Size is also not a problem because as of now, the Okunland in Kogi alone is larger than Ekiti state and it's comparable in size to Osun state and that's not including the Okun territories outside of Kogi.

sEGXY2:
All hail the great Oduduwa nation!

Unlike the other group we don't have to start staging violent protest and spewing hate statement before we get our own nation when we want it cos we'll get it on a platter of gold, that's sophistication.

The Okun and Kwarans has and will always be loyal to our brothers in the west, check election results if you're skeptical.

Omoluabi reporting from Egbe, kogi state.

Of course! You are absolutely right!
There are Okun settlements in the SW and there are Igbomina and Ibolo in the SW as there are in Kwara and Kogi. The only divide is the imaginary line created by outsiders.

9jakool:


Of course! You are absolutely right!
There are Okun settlements in the SW and there are Igbomina and Ibolo in the SW as there are in Kwara and Kogi. The only divide is the imaginary line created by outsiders.

Yoruba land ends in river niger -JEBBA which is after ilorin so we want all
No to local colonisation

Markfemi2:



Yoruba land ends in river niger -JEBBA which is after ilorin so we want all
No to local colonisation

Exactly!

9jakool:

Exactly!

Speak out ilorin Is occupied by Fulani but not for Fulani

SuperS1Panther:


Lokoja is not but Ajaokuta is.

Hausa was never indigenous to Lokoja. Hausas were refugees in Lokoja. The deposed Sarkis and Barons in Hausaland were driven South to the river basins by their Fulani conquerors. When British came to colonize they met resistance with the Fulani Emirs. They in turn were deposed and driven South to a refuge area in the basin and under the watchful eyes of the colonial administrators.

Lokoja was a tributary of Old Oyo. Old Oyo fell much after the first wave of deposed rulers sent Southward. So Hausa were guests and subjects under Yoruba dominion in Lokoja. By the time of the British establishment, Old Oyo had fell to Fulani. Our hold on Lokoja were not as resolute as before. After the second deposition and Fulani Emirs joined their Hausa kins in Lokoja Islam grew and overtook the city further cutting back Yoruba hold.

During successive military rule North consolidated their hold on Lokoja and brought in new settlements to dilute the Yoruba enclaves. We lost three important cities to the political North, Ilorin, Katunga and Lokoja. Ilorin and Katunga through war, Lokoja through our own self doing. Till today, the Yoruba ruler, Olu of Oworo is independent and does not pay homage to the Hausa ruler in Lokoja.

We are very prodigal and careless politically. Omoluabi has dwindled away our fortunes.

If I may add, river basins are naturally blessed for agriculture and commerce. Lokoja is a prime location, even moreso than Ilorin...but we failed to see the worth. If we are not careful, in another 50 to 100 yrs we will be completely irrelevant in Lokoja culture and politics.

wizzakosh:
That is your normal assignment. To post picture. Laterin poo eater

Please be serious. This is not food, is it?

MetaPhysical:


Hausa was never indigenous to Lokoja. Hausas were refugees in Lokoja. The deposed Sarkis and Barons in Hausaland were driven South to the river basins by their Fulani conquerors. When British came to colonize they met resistance with the Fulani Emirs. They in turn were deposed and driven South to a refuge area in the basin and under the watchful eyes of the colonial administrators.

Lokoja was a tributary of Old Oyo. Old Oyo fell much after the first wave of deposed rulers sent Southward. So Hausa were guests and subjects under Yoruba dominion in Lokoja. By the time of the British establishment, Old Oyo had fell to Fulani. Our hold on Lokoja were not as resolute as before. After the second deposition and Fulani Emirs joined their Hausa kins in Lokoja Islam grew and overtook the city further cutting back Yoruba hold.

During successive military rule North consolidated their hold on Lokoja and brought in new settlements to dilute the Yoruba enclaves. We lost three important cities to the political North, Ilorin, Katunga and Lokoja. Ilorin and Katunga through war, Lokoja through our own self doing. Till today, the Yoruba ruler, Olu of Oworo is independent and does not pay homage to the Hausa ruler in Lokoja.

We are very prodigal and careless politically. Omoluabi has dwindled away our fortunes.

If I may add, river basins are naturally blessed for agriculture and commerce. Lokoja is a prime location, even moreso than Ilorin...but we failed to see the worth. If we are not careful, in another 50 to 100 yrs we will be completely irrelevant in Lokoja culture and politics.

I don't really know about all of Lokoson being for Yorubas maybe a portion
And that we lost a land in a war does not mean we can't clamour to have it back
China lost Hong Kong to Britain but today they have it back

Good for them

MetaPhysical:


Hausa was never indigenous to Lokoja. Hausas were refugees in Lokoja. The deposed Sarkis and Barons in Hausaland were driven South to the river basins by their Fulani conquerors. When British came to colonize they met resistance with the Fulani Emirs. They in turn were deposed and driven South to a refuge area in the basin and under the watchful eyes of the colonial administrators.

Lokoja was a tributary of Old Oyo. Old Oyo fell much after the first wave of deposed rulers sent Southward. So Hausa were guests and subjects under Yoruba dominion in Lokoja. By the time of the British establishment, Old Oyo had fell to Fulani. Our hold on Lokoja were not as resolute as before. After the second deposition and Fulani Emirs joined their Hausa kins in Lokoja Islam grew and overtook the city further cutting back Yoruba hold.

During successive military rule North consolidated their hold on Lokoja and brought in new settlements to dilute the Yoruba enclaves. We lost three important cities to the political North, Ilorin, Katunga and Lokoja. Ilorin and Katunga through war, Lokoja through our own self doing. Till today, the Yoruba ruler, Olu of Oworo is independent and does not pay homage to the Hausa ruler in Lokoja.

We are very prodigal and careless politically. Omoluabi has dwindled away our fortunes.

If I may add, river basins are naturally blessed for agriculture and commerce. Lokoja is a prime location, even moreso than Ilorin...but we failed to see the worth. If we are not careful, in another 50 to 100 yrs we will be completely irrelevant in Lokoja culture and politics.

Truth
And we are still making the same mistakes today
Acting nonchalantly when there are obvious signs that our belongings are being stolen under one guise or another
We the Yoruba youths really need to take control or we'll be left with nothing
With our kind of history and early civilisation, the whole of Nigeria should be our conquered territory
But we squandered it
We have to sit up

9jakool:

I also agree that Lokoja is an Oworo town, especially judging by how it's mainly sorrounded by other Oworo settlements. Lokoja is surrounded to the North and West by Oworo people and to the East by the Niger river. The only border that's neither an Oworo nor a geographical border is the Southern border which is Ebira.


The Igala claim to the Lokoja is futile as the Igala actually largely settled on the Eastern bank of the Niger. The closest areas to Lokoja across the Niger is occupied by Bassa-komo, Bassa-Nge, and Ebira Koto peoples in Bassa lga, which is the local government area directly east of Lokoja. There are no Igala lgas that border Lokoja lga at all.

I think the weakest claim to the city is the one by Hausas. The obvious reason is because Hausaland in Nigeria is limited to the core north and Lokoja does not form a contiguous border with Hausaland. Also the name Lokoja phonetically is odd in Hausa. In the Hausa language, the open "O" found in LOkOja is absent in Hausa language; the "O" in Hausa is more closed and similar to the "O" in Ocean.

Anyways, I believe the Okun can stand alone as a state. The population of Okunland in Kogi state as of now should be between 1-1.5 million. If you also include Okun(Yagba) towns in Kwara like Eruku and Koro as well as other Okun towns in Northeastern Ekiti state like Aiyede, Itapaji, etc and I think(i don't know) to an extent to the border parts of Akoko Ondo; then an inclusive Okun state can have a population that approaches 2 million. I think this is enough for a state. Size is also not a problem because as of now, the Okunland in Kogi alone is larger than Ekiti state and it's comparable in size to Osun state and that's not including the Okun territories outside of Kogi.

Well said bro, but i have not heard the Igalas lay' claim to Lokoja before. I know they flocked to Lokoja being the state capital and for the fact that their brothers had occupied some strategic political positions in the state.

waledeji:


The difference is that those okun people were the once that wants to unite with their kit and kins in Yoruba

Unlike iPods that are doing attache by force on their kit and kins in SS

LET Igbo minorities in SS come out in one voice and says they want to join their brothers in Biafra.
Not attache by force from iPods

You nailed it bro.... Why would they wanna force someone into something they clearly don't wanna be a part of!?.... The igbos in the SS have clearly stated that they "ain't Igbos" and don't wanna be referred to as igbos.....

Guseh:


Well said bro, but i have not heard the Igalas lay' claim to Lokoja before. I know they flocked to Lokoja being the state capital and for the fact that their brothers had occupied some strategic political positions in the state.

I've seen some claim, especially online.

What do you think the capital of a proposed Okun state should be? Kabba? Lokoja?