jnrbayano:


I should demand a proof as to why my post is a "big lie" not the other way round.

That burden lies on you

1. There was nothing like apostolic succesion in the writings of the church fathers before St Augustine of Hippo.

2. When paul talked about apostolic succesion to Timothy and Titus, he talked about passing on doctrine to the next generation, not apostolic office, then the main works of ministry were teaching and preaching. But in the writings of Clement of Rome, ministerial activity is liturgical: the undifferentiated 'presbyter-bishops' are to "make offerings to the Lord at the right time and in the right places" something which is simply not defined by the evangelists.

3. there is a "strong and ancient tradition" that the presence of an ordained man is necessary for the celebration of the Eucharist (a basic argument for apostolic succession). But there is "certainly no evidence for this view in the New Testament" and in the case of Clement of Rome and Ignatius of Antioch the implication is not that it cannot be celebrated by anyone else, but that it ought not. Harvey says in the third century this "concern for propriety" begins to be displaced by the concept of 'power' to do so which means that in the absence of such a man it is "literally impossible" for a Eucharist to be celebrated.

jnrbayano:



1) Pls check out these bible passages:


2 Thess 2:8-9 (St Paul's teaching)

"And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9. Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders."


Rev 13:13-14 (St John's revelations)

"And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14. And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live."


Exo 7:11-12 (Moses and Aaron vs Pharaoh's sorcerers)

"Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments. 12. For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods."


Matt 24:24 (Jesus Christ himself warns)

"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."

I don't believe you. I believe Paul, John, Moses and Jesus Christ.


2) By sexual nature I meant sexual immorality. Masturbation is an example and sexual immorality is a sin. There shouldn't be any twisting about it. Only the devil thinks its not a sin. Look at what St Paul said in 2 Cor 11:14; And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Do not be deceived by Chris.

3) Dear friend, see what St John teaches below:

1 John: 4.1

"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

The Op in its entirety has already tested the spirit of Chris. I, and many others on evidence here have as well. You can't teach on National TV that masturbation isn't a sin and yet you are of God. Light and darkness has got no business.

Like 2 Thes 2, Rev 13 and Matt 24 the timeline of events was clearly delineated. All 3 were referring to a great tribulation after the rapture has occurred. 2 Thes 2 in fact tells us why satan's power would be in full force then enough to do the mighty signs, wonders and deeds- the church of God, who are presently responsible for limiting His power would be taken away from the way. Paul says so in verse 7.

Concerning Moses and Aaron, I do believe there were also magicians in Jesus' day as well in Peter and Paul's. I don't see how the presence of sorcerers who don't cast out demons or heal the sick is used as evidence that Satan performs miracles. And if your argument still subsists then you must point me out to whom you consider genuine men of God whose demonstration of power via signs, wonders, mighty deeds and miracles eclipses or at least is on par with Pastor Chris. If you cannot do so, then your argument will be that Satan is more powerful than God.

Now concerning masturbation, if a man masturbates to his wife while having sex or if he is to do a penile test to (check his fertility) that includes him submitting semen for test is he sinning while providing it?

You and the OP in your entirety don't count because there will always be people like you and the OP. Jesus had people like you and the OP who specialize in testing spirits by their own criteria and not God's. Nothing new Charlie.

Maestro21:


Like 2 Thes 2, Rev 13 and Matt 24 the timeline of events was clearly delineated. All 3 were referring to a great tribulation after the rapture has occurred. 2 Thes 2 in fact tells us why satan's power would be in full force then enough to do the mighty signs, wonders and deeds- the church of God, who are presently responsible for limiting His power would be taken away from the way. Paul says so in verse 7.

Concerning Moses and Aaron, I do believe there were also magicians in Jesus' day as well in Peter and Paul's. I don't see how the presence of sorcerers who don't cast out demons or heal the sick is used as evidence that Satan performs miracles. And if your argument still subsists then you must point me out to whom you consider genuine men of God whose demonstration of power via signs, wonders, mighty deeds and miracles eclipses or at least is on par with Pastor Chris. If you cannot do so, then your argument will be that Satan is more powerful than God.

Now concerning masturbation, if a man masturbates to his wife while having sex or if he is to do a penile test to (check his fertility) that includes him submitting semen for test is he sinning while providing it?

You and the OP in your entirety don't count because there will always be people like you and the OP. Jesus had people like you and the OP who specialize in testing spirits by their own criteria and not God's. Nothing new Charlie.

I really tried to help your shut eyes but being shut is like paradise to you.

In all the references I put out show that the devil can perform mighty acts, signs and lying wonders to deceive/intrigue (as with Moses and Aaron in the old testament, Jesus affimation in the new testament and John's revelation about the future events) Since you are hell bent on justifying a charlatan, by every means continue.

Jesus, John and Paul recognised Satan's signs and wonders and using your logic, they believed Satan's power is superior to God's. You people will say anything to support your God of man....lol

Keep masturbating. Keep finding a reason for it. I'm sure before Chris talked about Masturbation on National TV, you knew it was a sin. Now, you have the license from Almighty Chris.

John the baptist appeared to usher in Jesus the master. He brought a teaching centred on repentance which is focusing on God and eschewing sin.

...Chris was sent by his master to ready people to meet him by watering down completely repentance, (contrary to John the baptist's teaching) enslaving man, woman and child by fleecing them, (contrary to Jesus's teachings of setting captives free and feeding the hungry) and teaching blatantly on National TV that masturbation, an immoral act is not a sin.

Testing the spirit of Chris is the easiest thing a Christian can/would ever do.

musicwriter:
@Marchman



The above is the message of Paul not the message of Christ!!. And that's the exact reason Paul (a false prophet) appeared in the gospel.

Rome had tried for years to destroy the message of Christ and when it didn't work, they used Paul (a Greek) who was also personally interested in destroying the message of Christ. So, the scheme was Paul had to claim he saw Christ on his way to Damascus, has repented and is now the representative of Christ. Once Paul entered the gospel, Rome took over the gospel of Christ claiming pope Constantine also saw a cross in the dream. Soon they made themselves the custodians of Christ legacy, giving them power of remodeling Christianity to include collecting taxes in the name of God, committing other crimes/sin and justifying it.

If you keep following your God given mind you'll discover religion is a scam. Quit religion immediately and you'll discover God.

Eeyah

You are trying so hard to disprove the beloved apostle. Kpele
Sorry o

Paul was not a Greek. He was a Jew and also a Roman. Never a Greek.

bigtt76:
Toh! You've said it all. The Church today has become an avenue of theatrical acts and followers hip rather than fellowship. The pastor's word supercedes God's word these days hence we now have pastors being called daddy or mummy.

Their photographs now are a source of protection to our homes or properties. It has become the equivalent to the mark of blood God directed the Israelite to have on their door posts while preparing to leave Egypt.

We blame a religion that kill in the name of their God but the truth is some church members would do same not for their God but their pastors.

Whenever I read post like this I shed tears. Bitter, but true. Lord open our eyes that we may not go astray in this end time churches

Chi59:


Eeyah

You are trying so hard to disprove the beloved apostle. Kpele
Sorry o

Paul was not a Greek. He was a Jew and also a Roman. Never a Greek.

A Jew and a Roman at the same time? For your information, Rome was an occupying power oppressing the Jews at that time!!. You can't be a Roman (invader) and be a Jew (the colonized) at the same time. Its like saying you were British and Nigerian in the 15th century.

According to your bible, in Acts 21:37-39, Paul was arrested by the army for his past terrorist activities, and ''As they were about to take Paul into the barracks, he asked the commander, “May I say something to you?” “Do you speak Greek?” he replied. “Aren’t you the Egyptian who incited a rebellion some time ago and led four thousand members of the ‘Assassins’’” into the wilderness? But Paul answered, “I am a Jew from Tarsus in Cilicia, a citizen of no ordinary city. Now I beg you to allow me to speak to the people''.

Note that he denied his nationality claiming he was a Jew!!. But, guess what? The army knew he was lying and they locked him up, because there was no way he would've been persecuting fellow Jews!!. Get it?

akagaba:
Op, wake up... as soon as u left, 500 more people walked in so dont come here and disgrace urself. If u have allowed d devil to take a hold of u, then seek deliverance somehwere becus so many lives are being changed and transformed in Christ Embassy. We dont preach sin in CE cuz thats not what God asked us to preach. We rather preach the goodnews of the gospel of our Lord Jesus and thats the gudnews that brings sinners to God.

For money matter, its only a poor man that speaks d way u do. We give big, very very big in CE and thats becuz we serve a big God so deal with ur poverty.

Read the op post carefully and you will notice that he wasn't complaining about money. He made some notable observations which are not just found in CE but in few other churches of this end time. True Christians don't laugh out on others because they are poor when they made known their observations or what bothers them. Maybe he's wrong on some other points mentioned, I wouldn't know, but this is what is happening in most churches today.

musicwriter:


A Jew and a Roman at the same time? For your information, Rome was an occupying power oppressing the Jews at that time!!. You can't be a Roman (invader) and be a Jew (the colonized) at the same time. Its like saying you were British and Nigerian in the 15th century.

According to your bible, in Acts 21:37-39, Paul was arrested by the army for his past terrorist activities, and ''As they were about to take Paul into the barracks, he asked the commander, “May I say something to you?” “Do you speak Greek?” he replied. “- Aren’t you the Egyptian who incited a rebellion some time ago and led four thousand members of the ‘Assassins’’” into the wilderness? But Paul answered, “I am a Jew from Tarsus in Cilicia, a citizen of no ordinary city. Now I beg you to allow me to speak to the people''.

Note that he denied his nationality claiming he was a Jew!!. But, guess what? The army knew he was lying and they locked him up, because there was no way he would've been persecuting fellow Jews!!. Get it?

Saul was his Jewish name, Paul, his Roman name.

His father acquired Roman citizenship. He affirmed his Roman citizenship, after being mistreated in Acts 16:37.

But just before then, he and his partner in evangelism were called Jews (Acts 16:20)

Paul had dual citizenship, sir!

As for him speaking Greek (Acts 21:37), Greek was a major language spoken in many of the then Asia minor.

It was needful that he knew how to speak the language in order to reach the people living in those parts.

And yes, he did persecute Christians (a.k.a people of The Way), not Jews (the Jews who practised Judaism) as evident in Acts 8:1-3, 9:4-5, 26:9-11 etc..

Chi59:


Saul was his Jewish name, Paul, his Roman name.

His father acquired Roman citizenship. He affirmed his Roman citizenship, after being mistreated in Acts 16:37.

But just before then, he and his partner in evangelism were called Jews (Acts 16:20)

Paul had dual citizenship, sir!

Jeudaism is not a nationality!!. It's a religion!!.

Anybody can claim to be a Jew at the appropriate time to save their lives, if they find it pertinent. Here in Nigeria Nnamdi Kanu is a Jew. Is Nnamdi Kanu an Israeli citizen?

The notion of his father acquiring Roman citizenship for him is pure trash, and that shows you don't know what you're talking about. You can't be from Rome or even want to associate with the Roman empire, if you're were in Judea, Jerusalem and environ at that time in history. Rome was a colonial power occupying Jewish lands, oppressing the people and collecting taxes, just as Britain did here in Nigeria.

musicwriter:


Jeudaism is not a nationality!!. It's a religion!!.

Anybody can claim to be a Jew at the appropriate time to save their lives, if they find it pertinent. Here in Nigeria Nnamdi Kanu is a Jew. Is Nnamdi Kanu an Israeli citizen?

The notion of his father acquiring Roman citizenship for him is pure trash, and that shows you don't know what you're talking about. You can't be from Rome or even want to associate with the Roman empire, if you're were in Judea, Jerusalem and environ at that time in history.

You are so bent on disproving what I've written that you can't see the truth in your front.

If you read in between my lines, I wrote that he persecuted the Christians, not the Jews. And what is the main religion of the Jews?

Judaism!!

No need wasting my time trying to enlighten you.

You are entitled to your opinions.

And if ever you are interested, google is your friend.

jnrbayano:


I really tried to help your shut eyes but being shut is like paradise to you.

In all the references I put out show that the devil can perform mighty acts, signs and lying wonders to deceive/intrigue (as with Moses and Aaron in the old testament, Jesus affimation in the new testament and John's revelation about the future events) Since you are hell bent on justifying a charlatan, by every means continue.

Jesus, John and Paul recognised Satan's signs and wonders and using your logic, they believed Satan's power is superior to God's. You people will say anything to support your God of man....lol

Keep masturbating. Keep finding a reason for it. I'm sure before Chris talked about Masturbation on National TV, you knew it was a sin. Now, you have the license from Almighty Chris.

John the baptist appeared to usher in Jesus the master. He brought a teaching centred on repentance which is focusing on God and eschewing sin.

...Chris was sent by his master to ready people to meet him by watering down completely repentance, (contrary to John the baptist's teaching) enslaving man, woman and child by fleecing them, (contrary to Jesus's teachings of setting captives free and feeding the hungry) and teaching blatantly on National TV that masturbation, an immoral act is not a sin.

Testing the spirit of Chris is the easiest thing a Christian can/would ever do.

You cannot force logic. You simply get it or you don't. Satan cannot perform all those things until after the rapture and within great tribulation (which is part of why it will be a great tribulation). If that were not the case then Paul and Stephen could also be the false prophets and christs that Jesus was prophesying about. It is the same Jesus that told you a kingdom that stands against itself will fail in relation to being accused of using Belzebub's power.

Jesus, Paul and John revealed the type of power satan will be able to wield once the body of Christ is raptured. I did not even go to new scriptures, I simply interpreted the scriptures you posted IN CONTEXT. You cannot interpret scriptures in isolation.

In 2009 I argued with a friend about masturbation and I told him point-blank that it is not a sin in certain contexts. All these happened before 2011 when Pastor Chris answered a question on live TV. Some sins are contextual but when you are a babe in spiritual things you would be ignorant of this fact. When you grow up like Paul you would know that whatsover is not of faith (that works by love) is sin Rom 14:23 not all those "thou shall nots" you nepioses teach yourselves in your gatherings.

John the Baptist's message is old school. Jesus even said so. People for years have tried to eschew sin but kept sinning all the more. Paul exposed this in Rom 7. The new message Jesus brought is his new life - the one that supplants the old sinful ways man was born with and makes him completely new. That new life is superior to sin and all the wiles of the devil. Without that life, any eschewing of sin anyone practices will end up in futility.

No teacher world over (perhaps except Joseph Prince and a few others) understand "metanoia" or repentance the bible way or to the degree that Pastor Chris does. When you turn on the light, darkness will depart. Yelling about so much darkness in the world is the path people with zero revelations take. Pastor Chris centers his message on the righteousness we have in Christ and not the sins we ought to flee from. Righteousness is greater than Sin.

If the OP misunderstood this truth and continued to live in sin and fornication the fault is on him. The bible says a man who looks into the mirror of God- his word, and does not act accordingly is akin to someone who looked into a mirror and forgot what he looked like (and not that the mirror is bad). Genuine repentance unto God is by inundating one's mind with the word of God till it is all you act and think. When you do that, you would put aside fleshly reasonings like "he perms his hair, he cannot be a MOG" and other such unedifying garbage.

There is a good, acceptable and perfect will of God. Learn to live in the perfect will of God. My longest post on NL thus far. Hope the trend does not continue.

TheLordIsGr8:


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Chi59:


You are so bent on disproving what I've written that you can't see the truth in your front.

If you read in between my lines, I wrote that he persecuted the Christians, not the Jews. And what is the main religion of the Jews?

Judaism!!

No need wasting my time trying to enlighten you.

You are entitled to your opinions.

And if ever you are interested, google is your friend.

Enlightening me how? You must be joking!! . Use your Google, do the search and prove your point. The early Christians were still the few Jewish converts that accepted Christ's message even when he was alive. It was the same Jews Paul were persecuting!!. And when they caught him to answer for his crimes he claimed he's a convert and therefore a Jew. What a funny liar!!.

Whobedatte:

Guy, chill, what the guy said is true. Why I left CE too abule Egba
How can my pastor be celebrating his birthday and the pastors wife comes on stage , saying we should contribute N300k for him? Isn't that outrageous? How can I be tasked for Tithe, special offering, offering, evangelism, patnership, Rhapsody, etc just in one service? Haba!!! Reason am nau
How can I pay all these in church afterwards, cell meeting, after church, cell leader still asks for same thing again??
There was a time when we having evangelism, and cell leader ask us to pay some money to hire gen, and space , and projector.
I asked myself, what for? What happened to all the money we've being paying all these while ? At that moment, I already made up my mind to leave. , cos I'm fed up! That was few years back. Just a hustling guy then with no shishi

you mean the CE @ alexander street, abule egba right? that's my area bro! i used to see a particular guy fair in complexion with jerry curled hair, he used to make me laff hehehehehe

gameboyo:


The one with 2 general overseers and several court cases?

laffing out out and my people are wondering if i never run mad! Nairalanders! una funny die

jnrbayano:


...Chris was sent by his master to ready people to meet him by watering down completely repentance, (contrary to John the baptist's teaching) enslaving man, woman and child by fleecing them, (contrary to Jesus's teachings of setting captives free and feeding the hungry) and teaching blatantly on National TV that masturbation, an immoral act is not a sin.

Testing the spirit of Chris is the easiest thing a Christian can/would ever do.

How else will captives be set free except when they become aware about their liberty in Christ? You who placed them in bondage did you stop seeing sinners in your midst? If you did not, tell us the name of your Catholic parish so we would come and verify it. Pastor Chris has given more to hungry children (both physically and spiritually) than all the roman Catholics in Nigeria put together. In fact, if he was to list out how much he has helped people you would think he was running for the presidency.

I laugh when I see somethings online about Men of God and I just pray that some people's eyes will be open. The OP, ask him, as he stopped attending services and giving to the gospel did the ministry lack? That shows you that nobody was fleecing anyone. Pastor Chris always says if you don't believe in your pastor then you should not give your offerings. So how then can anyone be fleeced after hearing that caveat?

Or he talked about collecting N1000 for the New Year's service? Did he also mention that that venue is used regularly for many church programs and not a dime is collected? Did he mention that there were many other venues close by where people were told to go to free of charge? Did he tell you that the people who even paid for those tickets were Pastors who procured many tickets to give to their own members so they could attend. Was he also fleecing the Pastors? Lol.

A man that gave N1B to BIU. N1B to atleast 2 other Unis. How many times have we seen him give people, $500k, $200k, N100M? Just recently, he gave a church $2M in Lekki. Lol, is that the man that would fleece only N25M from people once in a whole year when he could have made them collect N100k per seat every week and not just N1000 once in a year? That is why other CE members were accusing the OP of lying or having a poverty mentality. I would not do that just yet.

Raptor15:
Who did you tell when you started the church at first? Who asked you why you left CE? Just because you are not hearing what you want to hear, or seeing what you want to see CE is now a bad church. Going to church is not by force those that are comfortable with what they are seeing there can stay those that hate it can leave no need for all these gossiping on social media.I believe when you wanted to leave nobody stopped you from leaving.

Even the 80% of people you are trying to tell why you left CE on Nairaland are senseless I wonder the advice they will give you. I haven't been to my own church regularly this year, though I don't agree with some things they do in my Church doesn't mean I should start gossiping when I leave. Trust me saying all these in social media will not make you better or more spiritual.

,
how did you know it is 80% of the people that are senseless? did you do a survey? of all the DUMB posts on this thread all day, yours is NUMERO UNO!
A wise man once said: it is better to SHUT YOUR MOUTH and have people assume you a UNINTELLIGENT, than to OPEN it and REMOVE ALL DOUBT!

I have always stayed clear of people from christ embassy, deeper life and jehovah's witness due to issues in ideology.

Kaysalas:

you mean the CE @ alexander street, abule egba right? that's my area bro! i used to see a particular guy fair in complexion with jerry curled hair, he used to make me laff hehehehehe

nope!!
They've left there (Alexander) now at Labak estate gate. But the one I'm talking about is at social club road (Pere side)

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Maestro21:


How else will captives be set free except when they become aware about their liberty in Christ? You who placed them in bondage did you stop seeing sinners in your midst? If you did not, tell us the name of your Catholic parish so we would come and verify it. Pastor Chris has given more to hungry children (both physically and spiritually) than all the roman Catholics in Nigeria put together. In fact, if he was to list out how much he has helped people you would think he was running for the presidency.

I laugh when I see somethings online about Men of God and I just pray that some people's eyes will be open. The OP, ask him, as he stopped attending services and giving to the gospel did the ministry lack? That shows you that nobody was fleecing anyone. Pastor Chris always says if you don't believe in your pastor then you should not give your offerings. So how then can anyone be fleeced after hearing that caveat?

Or he talked about collecting N1000 for the New Year's service? Did he also mention that that venue is used regularly for many church programs and not a dime is collected? Did he mention that there were many other venues close by where people were told to go to free of charge? Did he tell you that the people who even paid for those tickets were Pastors who procured many tickets to give to their own members so they could attend. Was he also fleecing the Pastors? Lol.

A man that gave N1B to BIU. N1B to atleast 2 other Unis. How many times have we seen him give people, $500k, $200k, N100M? Just recently, he gave a church $2M in Lekki. Lol, is that the man that would fleece only N25M from people once in a whole year when he could have made them collect N100k per seat every week and not just N1000 once in a year? That is why other CE members were accusing the OP of lying or having a poverty mentality. I would not do that just yet.

Okay

NubiLove:
I have always stayed clear of people from christ embassy, deeper life and jehovah's witness due to issues in ideology.

Stay clear of true worship

Marchman:
2. Sin Means Nothing at CE. In summary, at CE, sin means nothing!

But is there any well-established church where you will not find this?

paulGrundy:

2. When paul talked about apostolic succesion to Timothy and Titus, he talked about passing on doctrine to the next generation, not apostolic office....

As interpreted by freethinkers and church killers! Dem don start

musicwriter:


Jeudaism is not a nationality!!. It's a religion!!.

Anybody can claim to be a Jew at the appropriate time to save their lives, if they find it pertinent. Here in Nigeria Nnamdi Kanu is a Jew. Is Nnamdi Kanu an Israeli citizen?

The notion of his father acquiring Roman citizenship for him is pure trash, and that shows you don't know what you're talking about. You can't be from Rome or even want to associate with the Roman empire, if you're were in Judea, Jerusalem and environ at that time in history. Rome was a colonial power occupying Jewish lands, oppressing the people and collecting taxes, just as Britain did here in Nigeria.

This is the most meaningless argument I have ever seen. So then what are the natives of Jerusalem and Judea called?

Whobedatte:
nope!!
They've left there (Alexander) now at Labak estate gate. But the one I'm talking about is at social club road (Pere side)

Oh! i know that one too, one upstairs like that, a couple of buildings from the social club guest house, well done, where do you fellowship now?

Kaysalas:

Oh! i know that one too, one upstairs like that, a couple of buildings from the social club guest house, well done, where do you fellowship now?

Yea. I hardly go church again

paulGrundy:


This is the most meaningless argument I have ever seen. So then what are the natives of Jerusalem and Judea called?

What was Nigeria called before 1914? Do the maths and you'll arrive at what that region was called.

That region was called Palestine and maybe other names at that time, but not Israel. Isreal was created as a country in 1948. Before this time there was no place called Israel as a country. So, the Jews living there would have identified themselves as Palestinians or Egyptians or Mediterraneans. Israel was created from Palestine in 1948.

musicwriter:


What was Nigeria called before 1914? Do the maths and you'll arrive at what that region was called.

That region was called Palestine and maybe other names at that time, but not Israel. Isreal was created as a country in 1948. Before this time there was no place called Israel as a country. So, the Jews living there would have identified themselves as Palestinians or Egyptians or Mediterraneans. Israel was created from Palestine in 1948.

So which Jew was paul reffering to in Galatians 3:28, about 1500 years before 1948? ;

“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female....”

paulGrundy:


So which Jew was paul reffering to in Galatians 3:28, about 1500 years before 1948? ;

“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female....”

Problem you people have is you take everything you read in the Bible literally unable to understand what you read. Just to answer you, what he was saying is like me saying "there's no Christian, Muslim, Nigerian, American" when it comes to Christ. What he's saying here is everybody is acceptable no matter your religion (Jew) or nationality (Greece).

Whobedatte:
Yea. I hardly go church again

hmnn! that is NOT d solution either, i for recommend my church but e fit dey too hard for you... pray make God lead you shaaa! stay blessed bro

enimooko:
As interpreted by freethinkers and church killers! Dem don start

Yes that's true the RCC has deviated from the basic tenets of the early church that Peter preserved and passed to other bishops.