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You just enjoy arguing and from Biblical and philosophical view you even lack basic ability to understand simple points. Well I can not help you, you need to understand yourself. The only I only thing I know you are good at is to assume things and accuse people wrongly. Well ride on if it is your hobby. If I may ask what is the name of church? My assignment for you is to research how Christianity came to Africa, Nigeria and to your church, please do not assume thing just research. It is must not be Catholics who came first but read it first. If I may ask once again what is the name of church?

brocab:
Changing the bible-disobeying the commandments of God-making images is a start.
You shall not have any other god's before Me.
You shall not make for yourself carved images-any likeness of anything that is in Heaven above, or that is in Earth beneath, or that is in the water under the Earth.
You shall not bow down to them nor serve them.

"Question" Did the Catholic Church give us the bible, at the beginning?
The "Catholic's" say yes-but the "Truth" say's no.

Lets go thought the list-to see if the bible was first written by the Catholic Church, as emmanuelex1 claims it to be?
{1} Why does it condemn clerical dress? {Matthew 23:5-6}
{2} Why does it teach the adoration of Mary? {Luke 11:27-28}
{3} Why does it show that all Christians are priest? {1 peter 2:5,9}
{4} Why does it condemn the observance of special days? {Galatians 4:9-11}
{5} Why does it teach that all Christians are Saints?{Corinthians 1:2}
{6} Why does it condemn the making and adoration of images? {Exodus 20:4-5}
{7} Why does it teach that Baptism is immersion instead of pouring? {Colossians 2:12}
{8} Why does it forbid us to address religious leaders as "father"? {Matthew 23:9}
{9} Why does it teach that Christ is the only foundation, and not the apostle Peter? {2 Corinthians 3:11}
{10} Why does it teach that their is one mediator instead of many? {1 Timothy 2:5}
{11} Why does it teach a Bishop must be a married man? {1 Timothy 3-2,4-5}
{12} Why is it opposed to the primacy of Peter? {Luke 22:24-27}
{13} Why does it oppose the idea of purgatory? {Luke 16:26}
{14} Why is it completely silent about infant baptism, instrumental music in worship, indulgence, confession to priest, the Rosaries, the Mass, and many other things in the Catholic Church.

Does this mean emmanuelex1 is mistaken where the bible actually come from-does the Catholic Church actually follow the bible, to it's full-or lets say parts of it-that suits the Catholic Church.

See the problem is, this forum teaches us, about scripture and everything the bible has to offer-I have learnt the bible in way's I never understood it before-but this forum is a door opening for all to understand the truth.
I have learnt the differences between different religions, and cults, that really wakes a man up-the computer is full of information-about the differences between what's false and what is truth.
I have found the Catholic's believe they have all the answers-they believe the bible began with them-but is this true?
After studying through time-the answer to this question is false, no the bible didn't start with the Catholic's first, "Matter of fact the Catholic's have their own view that doesn't concern the bible at all.
Mary's name stands before the Catholic Church-her name is above all other names-within the Godhead.
Bible knowledge have a different view about Mary, who she is, and what role she played, Mary was blessed by God to give birth to Jesus-but she is still human-and she believed in the Word of God-she needed a savour-just like we all do-the bible strictly tells us who we bow down too and who we worship-"And Mary's name isn't mentioned.
But still the Catholic Church disagrees with this bible knowledge.
Every cult, every religion that claims to know Christ-and doesn't obey His Word fully-are mouths without a voice.

emmanuelex1:
Your problem rest with you, you must think you are God. Get behind me. I believe in God and not what you understand.

Really it doesn't matter who came to Africa first-what matters which ones delivered the truth of Christ.
What matters are the Africans saved-did God send in the pioneers to bring in His message, these are the answers I would be searching for-not some religious cult like the Catholic Church who claim to know Christ, bringing with them another message-that doesn't belong to any bible knowledge, but themselves and their religion.

emmanuelex1:
You just enjoy arguing and from Biblical and philosophical view you even lack basic ability to understand simple points. Well I can not help you, you need to understand yourself. The only I only thing I know you are good at is to assume things and accuse people wrongly. Well ride on if it is your hobby. If I may ask what is the name of church? My assignment for you is to research how Christianity came to Africa, Nigeria and to your church, please do not assume thing just research. It is must not be Catholics who came first but read it first. If I may ask once again what is the name of church?

Please need prayers go meet a Catholic priest to help you out. From your choice of words I still think you are ignorant of the practices of Catholics. I am sorry but you are still very ignorant of what you are saying. The funniest part is that even in Sunday services you do not see Catholics reciting the Holy Rosary, nevertheless the there are different programs in Catholicism which include Children ministry( bible teachings), Charismatic program(praying section, Block Rosary(Teaching of Jesus and Mary), Holy communion, confirmation program etc. See I can not teach you everything online.You can remain ignorant if you want or best meet a good Catholic to teach properly.

brocab:
See the problem is, this forum teaches us, about scripture and everything the bible has to offer-I have learnt the bible in way's I never understood it before-but this forum is a door opening for all to understand the truth.
I have learnt the differences between different religions, and cults, that really wakes a man up-the computer is full of information-about the differences between what's false and what is truth.
I have found the Catholic's believe they have all the answers-they believe the bible began with them-but is this true?
After studying through time-the answer to this question is false, no the bible didn't start with the Catholic's first, "Matter of fact the Catholic's have their own view that doesn't concern the bible at all.
Mary's name stands before the Catholic Church-her name is above all other names-within the Godhead.
Bible knowledge have a different view about Mary, who she is, and what role she played, Mary was blessed by God to give birth to Jesus-but she is still human-and she believed in the Word of God-she needed a savour-just like we all do-the bible strictly tells us who we bow down too and who we worship-"And Mary's name isn't mentioned.
But still the Catholic Church disagrees with this bible knowledge.
Every cult, every religion that claims to know Christ-and doesn't obey His Word fully-are mouths without a voice.

Your ignorance knows no bound, saying catholic church is a cult is like saying Christianity is a cult. I just wonder what you will tell your kids well it is not not business. Can you please tell me the name of church, are you scared or ashamed of telling me the business enterprise you attend?

brocab:
Really it doesn't matter who came to Africa first-what matters which ones delivered the truth of Christ.
What matters are the Africans saved-did God send in the pioneers to bring in His message, these are the answers I would be searching for-not some religious cult like the Catholic Church who claim to know Christ, bringing with them another message-that doesn't belong to any bible knowledge, but themselves and their religion.

Again what can a priest teach me, what the bible can't teach me? "Nothing"
This is your problem-and this is where you go wrong in learning the scriptures yourself, you would rather ask the priest to give you all the answers.
This is why the bible was written-when we need the answers-we pray to God for the answers needed.
Priest and pastors can be wrong-but the bible can never be wrong-the bible is God's Word.

emmanuelex1:
Please need prayers go meet a Catholic priest to help you out. From your choice of words I still think you are ignorant of the practices of Catholics. I am sorry but you are still very ignorant of what you are saying. The funniest part is that even in Sunday services you do not see Catholics reciting the Holy Rosary, nevertheless the there are different programs in Catholicism which include Children ministry( bible teachings), Charismatic program(praying section, Block Rosary(Teaching of Jesus and Mary), Holy communion, confirmation program etc. See I can not teach you everything online.You can remain ignorant if you want or best meet a good Catholic to teach properly.

You don't seem to know the differences what is a cult-and what isn't a cult.
The Catholic Church doesn't obey the Word of God fully-the Catholic Church has their own beliefs how the bible should sound.
The Catholic Church had added-and removed scriptures.
Let us try Purgatory-a place where you can buy your love ones out, allowing them to go to heaven to be with the Lord-this lie is used within the Catholic Church, this place purgatory isn't written in the bible-how about the Rosaries, this is used to pray to Mary? Building images is another to remind Catholic's God exist, and you use your mediators such as Mary and the dead saints-to save you, the bible doesn't teach any of these things the Catholic's believe-these are taught by men-not God.
Any religion that makes images {idols} to remind them that a god exist-and not following the truth the Word of God, these are called cults, God lives in the heart of the living, He isn't the God of the dead.
Most Catholic's don't know the truth-because most don't have the Spirit of God, to know anything about anything.
This is why you are trying to push me to ask a priest-another one who He/She are like back in the days of the Pharisees, they didn't know anything either.

emmanuelex1:
Your ignorance knows no bound, saying catholic church is a cult is like saying Christianity is a cult. I just wonder what you will tell your kids well it is not not business. Can you please tell me the name of church, are you scared or ashamed of telling me the business enterprise you attend?

None-I don't attend any Church-but it doesn't stop me from studying the bible.
Churches these days a corrupt, and many of them are teaching about prosperity-collecting money from the poor-and spending it for their own pleasures.
Pentecostal Churches aren't any different to the Catholic Church when using their own doctrines-to deceive God's people.
Your Church-is well and truly involved in collecting finances, just as proud as any other Church this exist, Monies without God are just evil.
Who stands above all other Churches the Roman Catholic Church stands above-with its riches flooding Rome the Vatican.

emmanuelex1:
Your ignorance knows no bound, saying catholic church is a cult is like saying Christianity is a cult. I just wonder what you will tell your kids well it is not not business. Can you please tell me the name of church, are you scared or ashamed of telling me the business enterprise you attend?

Receive sense in Jesus name I pray Amen.

brocab:
You don't seem to know the differences what is a cult-and what isn't a cult.
The Catholic Church doesn't obey the Word of God fully-the Catholic Church has their own beliefs how the bible should sound.
The Catholic Church had added-and removed scriptures.
Let us try Purgatory-a place where you can buy your love ones out, allowing them to go to heaven to be with the Lord-this lie is used within the Catholic Church, this place purgatory isn't written in the bible-how about the Rosaries, this is used to pray to Mary? Building images is another to remind Catholic's God exist, and you use your mediators such as Mary and the dead saints-to save you, the bible doesn't teach any of these things the Catholic's believe-these are taught by men-not God.
Any religion that makes images {idols} to remind them that a god exist-and not following the truth the Word of God, these are called cults, God lives in the heart of the living, He isn't the God of the dead.
Most Catholic's don't know the truth-because most don't have the Spirit of God, to know anything about anything.
This is why you are trying to push me to ask a priest-another one who He/She are like back in the days of the Pharisees, they didn't know anything either.

Receive sense in Jesus name I pray Amen. Please can you tell me the name of your church? or Have you created your own church?

brocab:
None-I don't attend any Church-but it doesn't stop me from studying the bible.
Churches these days a corrupt, and many of them are teaching about prosperity-collecting money from the poor-and spending it for their own pleasures.
Pentecostal Churches aren't any different to the Catholic Church when using their own doctrines-to deceive God's people.
Your Church-is well and truly involved in collecting finances, just as proud as any other Church this exist, Monies without God are just evil.
Who stands above all other Churches the Roman Catholic Church stands above-with its riches flooding Rome the Vatican.

Since you do not attend any church? please which mosque do you attend? or have created your own church and now seeking followership?

brocab:
None-I don't attend any Church-but it doesn't stop me from studying the bible.
Churches these days a corrupt, and many of them are teaching about prosperity-collecting money from the poor-and spending it for their own pleasures.
Pentecostal Churches aren't any different to the Catholic Church when using their own doctrines-to deceive God's people.
Your Church-is well and truly involved in collecting finances, just as proud as any other Church this exist, Monies without God are just evil.
Who stands above all other Churches the Roman Catholic Church stands above-with its riches flooding Rome the Vatican.

Personally I am a proud Catholic but still I attend other churches provided they do worship God not satan. Please the word of God is not physics or Biology or Chemistry or a news paper or history novel, you need Jesus Christ guidance to understand it. Stop insulting Churches just becos they are corrupt rather pray for the church you think is corrupt. Who knows if you are even holy?

brocab:
None-I don't attend any Church-but it doesn't stop me from studying the bible.
Churches these days a corrupt, and many of them are teaching about prosperity-collecting money from the poor-and spending it for their own pleasures.
Pentecostal Churches aren't any different to the Catholic Church when using their own doctrines-to deceive God's people.
Your Church-is well and truly involved in collecting finances, just as proud as any other Church this exist, Monies without God are just evil.
Who stands above all other Churches the Roman Catholic Church stands above-with its riches flooding Rome the Vatican.

This isn't accusing people in direct-you claim you are Catholic-and yet you haven't studied the in's and out's with your own beliefs, which I have, when it comes to the Pentecostal's-I have studied and seen first hand-about many of the corrupt attitudes the Church had given out.
When knowing about anything, one must study all truth, to separated it from the lies people claim-and as sad as it is, Churches have a lot of explaining to do when judgement day arrives.
If you aren't sure about anything-go straight to the source to find what you are looking for-the bible is flooded with information about everything.
Why sit in your Church and listen to everybody else-He/She may not give you the right answers-where most Churches don't-this is why we have the bible to teach us all things, and if you aren't sure-it's best to ask God-He never lies-so He will be your best shot, to receive any information about Him. Sometimes God leads us to the net-their are Christians everywhere-writing about all sorts of information.
But if your heart isn't into it-and you are happy to believe in the little information you have, then don't get yourself all up tight when someone like myself knows things about your Church-and wants to share the good news to others, and bad news to you.
The differences between you and I is, I don't need to sit in front of a pastor-to find out the truth-it's written before my eye's-and the Holy Spirit leads me in all things.
To find out any truth-it is written somewhere, you may not like what you read-but it's out there, but if you sat down and studied about your beliefs, you will find most Churches that exist today have some sort of corruption-that's leading, not only themselves-but other believers into Hell fire.
The bible is the key to freedom-the bible holds the secrets and the power of God's Word, Jesus promises us He will never leave us-and these are His Words for those who truly believe, in Word, and in Truth.

emmanuelex1:
You just enjoy arguing and from Biblical and philosophical view you even lack basic ability to understand simple points. Well I can not help you, you need to understand yourself. The only I only thing I know you are good at is to assume things and accuse people wrongly. Well ride on if it is your hobby. If I may ask what is the name of church? My assignment for you is to research how Christianity came to Africa, Nigeria and to your church, please do not assume thing just research. It is must not be Catholics who came first but read it first. If I may ask once again what is the name of church?

Praying I do, and I am also a watchmen, spreading the word around-about corrupt Churches, so the people may hear.
Staying quite isn't my speciality-letting people know-don't go down that road, or this road, could save them from hell fire.
Warning them to stick with the bible-is directing them in the right direction.
Don't you think?

emmanuelex1:
Personally I am a proud Catholic but still I attend other churches provided they do worship God not satan. Please the word of God is not physics or Biology or Chemistry or a news paper or history novel, you need Jesus Christ guidance to understand it. Stop insulting Churches just becos they are corrupt rather pray for the church you think is corrupt. Who knows if you are even holy?

I taught you said you do not go to church, now you say when it comes to Pentecostal, I will take it that you are ashamed of your church, soorryyooo. You know nothing about Catholicism, trust me when I say so. There are good and bad people in the catholic church just like eslewhere but trust me Bro you are ignorant of the practices of Catholics. I thank God you are not a muslim or rather I thank God your parents were christians becos if you were to be a muslim you must have being a sucide bomber

brocab:
This isn't accusing people in direct-you claim you are Catholic-and yet you haven't studied the in's and out's with your own beliefs, which I have, when it comes to the Pentecostal's-I have studied and seen first hand-about many of the corrupt attitudes the Church had given out.
When knowing about anything, one must study all truth, to separated it from the lies people claim-and as sad as it is, Churches have a lot of explaining to do when judgement day arrives.
If you aren't sure about anything-go straight to the source to find what you are looking for-the bible is flooded with information about everything.
Why sit in your Church and listen to everybody else-He/She may not give you the right answers-where most Churches don't-this is why we have the bible to teach us all things, and if you aren't sure-it's best to ask God-He never lies-so He will be your best shot, to receive any information about Him. Sometimes God leads us to the net-their are Christians everywhere-writing about all sorts of information.
But if your heart isn't into it-and you are happy to believe in the little information you have, then don't get yourself all up tight when someone like myself knows things about your Church-and wants to share the good news to others, and bad news to you.
The differences between you and I is, I don't need to sit in front of a pastor-to find out the truth-it's written before my eye's-and the Holy Spirit leads me in all things.
To find out any truth-it is written somewhere, you may not like what you read-but it's out there, but if you sat down and studied about your beliefs, you will find most Churches that exist today have some sort of corruption-that's leading, not only themselves-but other believers into Hell fire.
The bible holds all truth, only if you believe in it, nothing could go wrong.
The bible is the key to freedom-the bible holds the secrets and the power of God's Word, Jesus promises us He will never leave us-and these are His Words for those who truly believe, in Word, and in Truth.

You are making no sense at all-I said I don't go to Church-this doesn't mean I have never been to a Church?
Of course I gave my life to Jesus somewhere?

emmanuelex1:
I taught you said you do not go to church, now you say when it comes to Pentecostal, I will take it that you are ashamed of your church, soorryyooo. You know nothing about Catholicism, trust me when I say so. There are good and bad people in the catholic church just like eslewhere but trust me Bro you are ignorant of the practices of Catholics. I thank God you are not a muslim or rather I thank God your parents were christians becos if you were to be a muslim you must have being a sucide bomber

Loooool I can not stop laughing, so you are a watch man, no wonder you are shy of mentioning the name of your church. Please tell me the full name of your church.

brocab:
Praying I do, and I am also a watchmen, spreading the word around-about corrupt Churches, so the people may hear.

You are a confused clown, what is the meaning of I do not go to church you said? who asking if you if you never being to church> you blood liar you said you do not go to church,please do you go to mosque?

brocab:
You are making no sense at all-I said I don't go to Church-this doesn't mean I have never been to a Church?
Of course I gave my life to Jesus somewhere?

Lets not forget I was once a Catholic too-but the problem is-I could never understand it, only because they didn't follow the bible, because they have their own ways in dealing with life.
No one taught the bible-and the priest didn't explain the Word of God, the way it's written-but they had their own method how they think it should sound.
But it wasn't correct, I became a Born again believer-and later I found I could read the bible first hand, without listening to someone else-reading it from a pulpit.
The Catholic's have their own views who God is-it isn't the God of the bible-praying the Rosaries and bowing down to statues-and thanking Mary-for her services-isn't what the bible directs us to know.
This is why, you need to stop listening to others and find the truth for yourself-pick up your bible, clean the dust of it, and read it, you won't find-the Rosaries-nor purgatory, nor praying to Mary and the dead saints written in the bible.
This isn't mocking your beliefs, but this is the truth, you won't find any lies written in the bible, you won't find any lies your priest have been telling you.

I see you can't understand pure English-because I don't go to Church now-it doesn't mean I have never been inside a Church?
Where else was I saved-giving my life to Jesus.
You don't like me rubbishing the Catholic Church, even if their is any truth about your beliefs-but you rubbish me with your bad language-did you learn bad language from your Church-or is this something you have been hiding away from the crowd? So on Sundays you become a saint, and the rest of the week you become yourself, an abuser of Satan once again.
Is this the identity description I have retrieved from a true blue Catholic?

emmanuelex1:
You are a confused clown, what is the meaning of I do not go to church you said? who asking if you if you never being to church> you blood liar you said you do not go to church,please do you go to mosque?

Keep on laughing-who cares-mocking me-is mocking the Lord, you would like a name of a Church-Hmmm-how about AOG or COC. are they good names, and which of the two do I fellowship at, Hmmm none.
But which of the two did I fellowship at in the past-both, and the many more I found suited at the time.

emmanuelex1:
Loooool I can not stop laughing, so you are a watch man, no wonder you are shy of mentioning the name of your church. Please tell me the full name of your church.

So you are a proud Catholic-attending other churches, this must confuse you deeply, you wouldn't know who is speaking the truth, and who is not speaking the truth-this must be the reason why you don't know any truth yourself.
What a joke.

emmanuelex1:
Personally I am a proud Catholic but still I attend other churches provided they do worship God not satan. Please the word of God is not physics or Biology or Chemistry or a news paper or history novel, you need Jesus Christ guidance to understand it. Stop insulting Churches just becos they are corrupt rather pray for the church you think is corrupt. Who knows if you are even holy?

You only see it as a argument-because you don't know anything.
Everyone knows-people get themselves all worked up-only because they don't know anything, this is your chance to study a thing or two, maybe than we could have a positive conversation.
Instead of listening to you-on a topic, that you don't have any information about.

emmanuelex1:
You just enjoy arguing and from Biblical and philosophical view you even lack basic ability to understand simple points. Well I can not help you, you need to understand yourself. The only I only thing I know you are good at is to assume things and accuse people wrongly. Well ride on if it is your hobby. If I may ask what is the name of church? My assignment for you is to research how Christianity came to Africa, Nigeria and to your church, please do not assume thing just research. It is must not be Catholics who came first but read it first. If I may ask once again what is the name of church?

Get it through your head man, I said I don't go to a Church-meaning to say, I don't fellowship at any Church "Now"
But it doesn't mean I haven't fellowshiped in a Church in the past.

emmanuelex1:
You are a confused clown, what is the meaning of I do not go to church you said? who asking if you if you never being to church> you blood liar you said you do not go to church,please do you go to mosque?

I don't believe a watchmens job is speaking about a Church, I am no longer at, you are confused-a watchmen is somebody spreading the truth to others, somebody who is led by the Lord-yelling out from the house tops warning people to turn from their evil ways, I am doing this by writing to you, I am telling you to turn from your evil ways, by reading your bible finding out the truth about Christ for yourself.
And are you listening?

emmanuelex1:
Loooool I can not stop laughing, so you are a watch man,no wonder you are shy of mentioning the name of your church. Please tell me the full name of your church.

brocab:
I don't believe a watchmens job is speaking about a Church, I am no longer at, you are confused-a watchmen is somebody spreading the truth to others, somebody who is led by the Lord-yelling out from the house tops warning people to turn from their evil ways, I am doing this by writing to you, I am telling you to turn from your evil ways, by reading your bible finding out the truth about Christ for yourself.
And are you listening?

I've been reading your posts and I agree with everything you've been saying.
Some people are just too blind and too stuborn to accept the right antidote to see again. They'll rather start to quarell with you and call you names than reason with you.
Keep up the good work and goodluck with it.

Yes thanks bro-join in, if you are willing-I need all the help I can get.
And I agree with you-people are stubborn specifically-when the truth is revealed.
Just remember you are always welcome to join us.

Beckino:
I've been reading your posts and I agree with everything you've been saying.
Some people are just too blind and too stuborn to accept the right antidote to see again. They'll rather start to quarell with you and call you names than reason with you.
Keep up the good work and goodluck with it.

Please tell the full name of your church, that is not too much to ask? if you are not ashame of your church

brocab:
I don't believe a watchmens job is speaking about a Church, I am no longer at, you are confused-a watchmen is somebody spreading the truth to others, somebody who is led by the Lord-yelling out from the house tops warning people to turn from their evil ways, I am doing this by writing to you, I am telling you to turn from your evil ways, by reading your bible finding out the truth about Christ for yourself.
And are you listening?

When someone is ignorant of what he or she is saying, it becomes impossible to convince some one else, have baked know about a subject is deadly you know?

brocab:
Yes thanks bro-join in, if you are willing-I need all the help I can get.
And I agree with you-people are stubborn specifically-when the truth is revealed.
Just remember you are always welcome to join us.

Keep deceiving you soul, do not worry very you will create your and probably become gatemen.

brocab:
I don't believe a watchmens job is speaking about a Church, I am no longer at, you are confused-a watchmen is somebody spreading the truth to others, somebody who is led by the Lord-yelling out from the house tops warning people to turn from their evil ways, I am doing this by writing to you, I am telling you to turn from your evil ways, by reading your bible finding out the truth about Christ for yourself.
And are you listening?

I know I no nothing but as I know I do worship God and honor Mary. Thanks

brocab:
You only see it as a argument-because you don't know anything.
Everyone knows-people get themselves all worked up-only because they don't know anything, this is your chance to study a thing or two, maybe than we could have a positive conversation.
Instead of listening to you-on a topic, that you don't have any information about.

Now you are adding now, what stopped you from adding now before? you when I say you are liar you seem to doubt, probably you can tell me it is a sleep of tongue.

brocab:
Get it through your head man, I said I don't go to a Church-meaning to say, I don't fellowship at any Church "Now"
But it doesn't mean I haven't fellowshiped in a Church in the past.