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Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 10:34am On Nov 03, 2012 |
ijawkid:actually so far u are d person wu have been thinking in the "pagan BOX". U are d person wu says beads are pagan because budha used them, 25 is pagan because sun worshippers used that dat and sunday too. After seeing "pagan, pagan pagan" in everything u still have d effontry to talk abt a pagan box? I just noticed dat ur anti-catholic campaign isnt yielding fruits except to show me how superstitious u are. U may want to try ur luck here: www.catholicanswersforum.com mayb u wil find new convert there. I wil try to keep off ur arguement u argue with a closed mind and simply repeat some old stories u were told over and over again. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by ijawkid(m): 10:41am On Nov 03, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: actually so far u are d person wu have been thinking in the "pagan BOX". U are d person wu says beads are pagan because budha used them, 25 is pagan because sun worshippers used that dat and sunday too. After seeing "pagan, pagan pagan" in everything u still have d effontry to talk abt a pagan box? Na you sabi....... I don't enjoy this argument either...... Truths are what I'm after...... Thank you my dear ""UBE"".... |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 11:06am On Nov 03, 2012 |
italo: Italo, my friend, don't you know the difference between praise and prayer? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 11:22am On Nov 03, 2012 |
Matthew 6:7-8 New King James Version (NKJV) 7 And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words. 8 “Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him. 5 Likes |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by ijawkid(m): 12:05pm On Nov 03, 2012 |
Boomark: Matthew 6:7-8Thanks for bringing out this point... |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 1:14pm On Nov 03, 2012 |
Boomark: Boomark: Wonders shall never end.There is nothing anti-catholicism will not cause so praise is no longer prayer!!! I wonder what prayer is all about |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by rhymz(m): 2:44pm On Nov 03, 2012 |
Matter of fact, Christianity is a just copy cat of different pre-existing pagan religions that they christian crusader later destroyed, persecuted their followers and destroyed every material about their liturgy and litany only to incoorperate them into christian worship. The concept of death and ressurection of a deity as a means of atonement existed way before Jesus and christians were born. The concept of itenerant Godmen with disciples did not start with the Jesus story. People dying on the cross did not start with jesus either. Most of the miracles attributed to jesus and life situation are similar myth that are already known with other pre-existed godmen. Religion itself is a creation of man, including the fictional and mythical characters they talk about. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 4:28pm On Nov 03, 2012 |
ijawkid: Christ called those doing that heathen not me. But i will follow his footsteps and also call them heathen. We are anti-paganism. If catholic is pagan, then anti-pagan=anti-catholic. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by italo: 6:52pm On Nov 03, 2012 |
Boomark: I know. What was Jesus doing in the Garden of Gethsemane. Praying or Praising? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by italo: 7:04pm On Nov 03, 2012 |
Boomark: Matthew 6:7-8 Matt. 26: 39 Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.” 42 He went away a second time and prayed, “My Father, if it is not possible for this cup to be taken away unless I drink it, may your will be done.” 44 So he left them and went away once more and prayed the THIRD TIME, saying the SAME THING. Jesus sounded very Catholic there, didn't he? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 12:40pm On Nov 04, 2012 |
italo: Did he pray when he went to heaven? Want you to understand something there. Those that need help and those that don't. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 12:56pm On Nov 04, 2012 |
italo: Do you not understand what He meant when He said do not use vain repetitions as the heathens do. He sounded anti-catholic here and upon that called their likes HEATHEN. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by yah1(m): 3:29pm On Nov 04, 2012 |
Boomark:Phew, all those them prayerbooks |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 7:12am On Nov 05, 2012 |
Boomark:so in ur village praise is not a type of prayer? Pls just try to b honest 4 once |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by yah1(m): 7:19am On Nov 05, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: so in ur village praise is not a type of prayer? Pls just try to b honest 4 onceThis one na new one o. Kai! |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 7:21am On Nov 05, 2012 |
ijawkid:nah! Never make that mistake and claim "i am after d truth" that is a big lie. I have discussed with u for some time now and i hv seen u used d most ingenious of arguement just to claim u are right. Do u rememba d thread where after we should u d legit use of images u came back screaming that d image can only b legit if God explicitly comanded to make it? Hahaha i remember animal farm "all animals are equal but some i more equal than oda", in ur dictnary all images are equal but sum are more equal. U don try. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 7:26am On Nov 05, 2012 |
Boomark:my bibo shows me that d angel repeat a prayer continously, am happy to pray like them. If u want to sed paganism in every thing u shuld convict Jesus, he repeated one prayer 3x |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 7:34am On Nov 05, 2012 |
italo: Kai Jesus just made a jest of these hypocrites here.See as he just destroyed all their baseless arguments.Imagine someone who calls himself a xtian say praise is not prayer!!! Nothing person no go see for nairaland |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 11:52am On Nov 05, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: so in ur village praise is not a type of prayer? Pls just try to b honest 4 once Do you know how to pray? Go and read our Lords prayer. You can find it in mt 6:9-13. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 12:24pm On Nov 05, 2012 |
Boomark: At times I wonder if you actually reason before you type.are you sure you really know what praise and worship are all about? The first line of the Lords prayer you mentioned goes thus "Our father who art in heaven ,hallowed be thy name.thy kingdom come,may your will be done on earth as it is in heaven" What do you understand by these lines? Is it not obvious there are lines of praise? Your level of ignorance is amazing |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 12:40pm On Nov 05, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: my bibo shows me that d angel repeat a prayer continously, am happy to pray like them. If u want to sed paganism in every thing u shuld convict Jesus, he repeated one prayer 3x Where did angels repeat a prayer continuously? I want to learn. He repeated it a prayer 3x in a space how many seconds for how minutes. He went further and prayed again. Didn't you see that. Do you know what it means to pray without ceasing? Why not claim that its what you guys. Am sure He knows why He called them heathen, of which you can't exonerate catholics from no matter how hard you try. They worst is that the vain repetition is even a prayer to Mary. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 2:00pm On Nov 05, 2012 |
Boomark: I don't even know the logic for your argument.Do you ponder to read read what you have written @ all You claimed catholics pray repetiously to mary contrary to Jesus's command but here you are shown Jesus himself doing the same thing and you are now asking for how many minutes or seconds.how did you come about this absurd conclusion. Obvious you just read the bible like a novel without any understanding.let me explain that verse for you. Jesus did not condemn repetious prayers but rather VAIN and repetious prayer.Kindly get that into your skull.for prayer to be condemed it must be VAIN not necessary repetitious |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by italo: 2:51pm On Nov 05, 2012 |
Rev 4:8 Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying: “‘Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty,’[b] who was, and is, and is to come.” 9 Whenever the living creatures give glory, honor and thanks to him who sits on the throne and who lives for ever and ever, 10 the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say: 11 “You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being.” Even the 24 elders never stop because the repeat their prayer anytime the four creatures repeat theirs. This is the word of the Lord! 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by ijawkid(m): 3:47pm On Nov 05, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: nah! Never make that mistake and claim "i am after d truth" that is a big lie. I have discussed with u for some time now and i hv seen u used d most ingenious of arguement just to claim u are right. Do u rememba d thread where after we should u d legit use of images u came back screaming that d image can only b legit if God explicitly comanded to make it? Hahaha i remember animal farm "all animals are equal but some i more equal than oda", in ur dictnary all images are equal but sum are more equal. Does using the rosary sound like the truth to your ears??...... Only pagans use beads in worship and in prayer..... Or are you a muslim??..... 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 3:51pm On Nov 05, 2012 |
Boomark:even in d lords prayer there is 'prayer of praise" there. What is "hallowed b thy name" if it isnt praise? So in ur village praise isnt a type of prayer? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by ijawkid(m): 3:51pm On Nov 05, 2012 |
italo: Rev 4:8 Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying: Please can you write out verbatim what you say when you use the rosary and let's compare it with the words of praise the 24 elders /the living creatures render to the almighty??... And let's also find out if they were using prayer beads up there in heaven..... I tire for ona.... |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 3:53pm On Nov 05, 2012 |
Boomark:open ur bible to rev, u will find them doing their "holy,holy holy" yet u are telling me that any repetition is pagan. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 3:56pm On Nov 05, 2012 |
ijawkid:yeah Only pagans use beads in worship and in prayer.....before christ only pagans believed that a being from heaven could take human flesh. Does that mean that christ is fake? Why is ur logic alway defective? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 3:59pm On Nov 05, 2012 |
ijawkid:the ingenious ijawkid and his gymnastics. U guys said it is totally wrong to REPEAT prayers, we showed u that prayers are repeated in scriptures now u are diving to d meaning of d prayers and d types. U see what i mean wen i say u are ingenious? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by ijawkid(m): 4:22pm On Nov 05, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: the ingenious ijawkid and his gymnastics. U guys said it is totally wrong to REPEAT prayers, we showed u that prayers are repeated in scriptures now u are diving to d meaning of d prayers and d types. SMH!!!!!!........ What prayers??...... ""Holy mÀry mothe® of GOD please pray for us""?? Is that It?? You repeat those words like primary school kids that recently just learnt how to say the nigerian pledge....... And you repeat that ""pagan"" slogan morning and evening...... And worse of all,you do that while counting your beads..... How pagan can that get!!!!!!!!....... You think that is what tho§e living creatures Àre doing in he aven?? 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by ijawkid(m): 4:27pm On Nov 05, 2012 |
Ubenedictus: yeah The last time I checked ""Truths"" were found in the scriptures......can I find the use of beads in worship in the scriptures??.. Ubenedictus: And who told you the Jews never knew how the messiah would come ..... Those same Jews had earlier known how. Angels materialized and was welcomed by there fore-fathers........ Christ isn't fake,that is why the scriptures talked about Him.... Does the scripture say anything about the rosary??.. Mr ""UBE"".....:-) 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 4:42pm On Nov 05, 2012 |
ijawkid: Ol boy go siddon joor.u no get talk.your arguments are always inconsistent |
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