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gentleiphy:
[b][/b]All the advice and contributions by everybody here as regards the OP's question whether to stay back in Nigeria or travel abroad are all valid point made.Being objective in some decisions seems the best way to tackle issues as well as being realistic.

For starters,no country in this world is the street littered with money money that as soon as you are born or arrived the country you start picking the coins and notes on the road...you have to work through your strengths,ability,ambition and mindset to achieve anything.With that said,in every country there are rich and poor,in Nigeria there are also rich and poor,graduates in any country also have to face competition to get jobs like Nigeria.In every country people have started jobs got fired and lose it from there,same in Nigeria.In every country you also need capital to start off a business so also is too in Nigeria and if you don't have capital you cant start..however some countries have stable economic environment to encourage business growth while some the harsh economic weather can stifle any intent of succeeding in business.

Now let me go to the question.Travelling abroad should not be seen as a do or die thing and also should not be seen as a route to the syndrome of Make-money-quick..if you intend to be in a legitimate job with a legal status..its easy to delve into the make-money quick in Nigeria than elsewhere because the system in Nigeria is based on anything goes..fake drugs goes,substandard materials goes and the rotten political systems and financial fraud.So many have personal reasons to relocate under [b]LEGAL[/b]means and not on a visit visa...some also have personal reasons to remain put in Nigeria and wade through the storm of hardship created by the politicians which by the way can in the near future end and things return back to normal.

someone here rightly said that so many in Diaspora are not better of because they have not built a house in Nigeria or have any investment in Nigeria...yes but measure of success mostly are not by how many houses you own,measure of success to so many is the quality of lifestyle you live with little or no money as compared to non quality lifestyle some live with plenty money..i will explain.

Some Nigerians left the country in search of better quality life for their family,kids and have access to the most commonest basic things being denied in Nigeria.Some have held big managerial positions in Nigeria but when the chips are down they are caught up in the web of confusion and hopelessness attached to Nigerian society.Some run away from Nigeria not because they dont have this money but because they seek for quick access to good and quality health care delivery system with or without money,some seek better security and protection of their lives,some seek easy access to clean portable drinking water and 24hrs electricity,some seek the freedom and respect as a human being first and foremost where rights are both for the poor and the rich and not only for the rich and where the legal system protects them whether rich or poor,some seek to relocate to better afford their kids a fast and assured future both in education which is quality and at a pace commensurate with their age.Most also sought for better job and at the same time enjoy all that i have mentioned above..nothing good also comes easy,you have to raise the bar to fit in to the new country you relocated to.The okonjo iwealas did not just get successful in the US,she worked hard for it and which she was to be in Nigeria she would been see as being made once she gets to Abuja politics..but US offered her the opportunity to become what she is today and mind you her kids have never lived in Nigeria.

Not undermining also the achievements made by so many Nigerians in Nigeria too and all that didn't come on a platter of Gold,hard work was also visible.But the difference is,the society and its perception about what quality life should be..Nigeria is zero and not looking like its going to ascend out from the zero mark anytime soon.Apart from the rich and the lucky middle class,can we say that everybody in Nigeria has the same access to same provisions of things that makes life easy?nope but in western world everybody both rich and poor have access to the most commonest things that makes life sweeter and better...in western world people may not be earning half of what an average Nigerian earns but are better in living life...simply put in western world both rich and poor are LIVING life while in Nigeria both rich and poor are merely EXISITING.. the difference in both[b] LIVING[/b] and EXISTING can put this way..the existing always run to the living for help and that clearly defines the abroad we talk about and the Nigeria we are comparing it with.

Finally,no place is as sweet as home,but sometimes the heat in the home will drive you outside to go receive the airconditon in another mans house and when you come back to your on house where you left you get surprised seeing the heat rashes(Poverty and stress) left in the body and faces of those in your home sweet home.Decision to relocate should not be based on what people abroad or people at home tells you...base your decision on what you actually want for yourself..is it money? or is better life or is it for the sake of running away from Nigeria...people work good jobs abroad..in US 99% of Nigerians are highly skilled and hold various top positions in their chosen profession and some destiny too kept them away from breaking through whether in abroad or back home...after all some in Nigeria started business before Dangote but some have parked up and return back to the village.But in all please do not relocate to any country without the legal way,do not run away to any country with visit visa...otherwise the sufferness you will meet wont be a nice story to write about..life is better abroad than Nigeria no matter how we explain it or try to use those that immigrated illegally and those not being fortunate to do the job they did back home which in anyway is tied to destiny...success is not by hardwork alone...success is favor from God first..to whom God chooses he bless.if you like run to jerusalem or remain in Nigeria what God decides about you is all that matters.

wisdom is the best.think carefully before you take any leap.

Ugosample:
This is the best conman here.

RELEASEUS:
Dont say what you dont know without making research. As civil Engineer in Qatar, I and many colleagues from Kenya, South Africa, Europeans, America, Sudan and many more are doing very well here. If you are a skilled professional then you have no problem at all. I never in my life thought I will buy a brand new 2016 ride delivered on flat bed truck while in Nigeria. Medical is 100% free here even if its heart operation. So forget Canada, Us and UK.some of them are runing to the middle east. More so tax is zero here. So bros abeg boon the western world.

erico2k2:
YOu are talking as if you have never lived in Nigeria B4, You are right its called advice, what worked for me might not work for him but do not forget it worked for me, so I must think it might work for him, i cant give anyone an advice I can guarantee, I can only give advice based on my own personal experience not what the next man went fru cos I would not know the ins and out.Talking about not trying, have you not seen people who are fully employed but still live in poverty cos of overhead?.Did you not see where we said having a combined salary of N200k might still mean you are living in poverty?
As things stand Nigeria is xtreemly expensive to live in by live I dont mean exist,you have to buy a car fuel it, service it, train kids build or rent a house, healthcare,school fees all these paid upfront.Me using that young man as an example is and explanation of the basic ills of Nigerai, it merely expands to what extent our society has decayed up to.I have a room mate from ESUT back in the days, when I was a 100 level student, he was a 400 level Comp science student,I saw him in the bank 2008 on one of my visit to Nigeria, he only just got a job the month B4,2008, I graduated 1999, he was Brilliant. Like I said in my respond about taxi drivers in the US, people who failed to secure employments are not weak,Its not as if they dont try enough,Sometimes life is just sooo unfair in Nigeria the chances of you securing employment is so slim unless you know somebody that knows somebody the past 2 years FG has a freeze on civil service employment.You will even work and wont get paid.The country is frustrating for those of us who aint so fortunate.

gentleiphy:
[b]Conman?how...i just gave my objective opinion boss...and conman doesn't seem to me a proper language..my objective response is based on experience of both side of the coin of living in Nigeria and also living abroad.I quess i made sense to the op..by the way before you conclude that i am one of those naija that wont hesitate to leave naija with visit visa or one of those that ran away to abroad and are no where to be found...i worked as an Accountant with the Maritime in Nigeria for 12yrs and now living in Canada with my family as permanent resident and work with one of the richest Estate and property development company in Western Canada..i moved to Canada under the federal skilled workers program out of choice of getting tired with what naija offers in terms of living life and for the future of my kids..and i have enjoyed every bit of my decision so far.

Pidgin2:
Is Nigeria more expensive to live in than Ghana or Abhijan? Smh

Ugosample:
Abidjan is cheaper than Ng by far

Ghana stuffs are expensive tho

Pidgin2:
That's a big lie, Nigeria is cheaper than Abhijan, there's no point arguing on this

Ugosample:
sorry it Was a typo.

I meant best comment.

You said it all

Pidgin2:
Is Nigeria more expensive to live in than Ghana or Abhijan? Smh

gentleiphy:
[b][/b]All the advice and contributions by everybody here as regards the OP's question whether to stay back in Nigeria or travel abroad are all valid point made.Being objective in some decisions seems the best way to tackle issues as well as being realistic.

For starters,no country in this world is the street littered with money money that as soon as you are born or arrived the country you start picking the coins and notes on the road...you have to work through your strengths,ability,ambition and mindset to achieve anything.With that said,in every country there are rich and poor,in Nigeria there are also rich and poor,graduates in any country also have to face competition to get jobs like Nigeria.In every country people have started jobs got fired and lose it from there,same in Nigeria.In every country you also need capital to start off a business so also is too in Nigeria and if you don't have capital you cant start..however some countries have stable economic environment to encourage business growth while some the harsh economic weather can stifle any intent of succeeding in business.

Now let me go to the question.Travelling abroad should not be seen as a do or die thing and also should not be seen as a route to the syndrome of Make-money-quick..if you intend to be in a legitimate job with a legal status..its easy to delve into the make-money quick in Nigeria than elsewhere because the system in Nigeria is based on anything goes..fake drugs goes,substandard materials goes and the rotten political systems and financial fraud.So many have personal reasons to relocate under [b]LEGAL[/b]means and not on a visit visa...some also have personal reasons to remain put in Nigeria and wade through the storm of hardship created by the politicians which by the way can in the near future end and things return back to normal.

someone here rightly said that so many in Diaspora are not better of because they have not built a house in Nigeria or have any investment in Nigeria...yes but measure of success mostly are not by how many houses you own,measure of success to so many is the quality of lifestyle you live with little or no money as compared to non quality lifestyle some live with plenty money..i will explain.

Some Nigerians left the country in search of better quality life for their family,kids and have access to the most commonest basic things being denied in Nigeria.Some have held big managerial positions in Nigeria but when the chips are down they are caught up in the web of confusion and hopelessness attached to Nigerian society.Some run away from Nigeria not because they dont have this money but because they seek for quick access to good and quality health care delivery system with or without money,some seek better security and protection of their lives,some seek easy access to clean portable drinking water and 24hrs electricity,some seek the freedom and respect as a human being first and foremost where rights are both for the poor and the rich and not only for the rich and where the legal system protects them whether rich or poor,some seek to relocate to better afford their kids a fast and assured future both in education which is quality and at a pace commensurate with their age.Most also sought for better job and at the same time enjoy all that i have mentioned above..nothing good also comes easy,you have to raise the bar to fit in to the new country you relocated to.The okonjo iwealas did not just get successful in the US,she worked hard for it and which she was to be in Nigeria she would been see as being made once she gets to Abuja politics..but US offered her the opportunity to become what she is today and mind you her kids have never lived in Nigeria.

Not undermining also the achievements made by so many Nigerians in Nigeria too and all that didn't come on a platter of Gold,hard work was also visible.But the difference is,the society and its perception about what quality life should be..Nigeria is zero and not looking like its going to ascend out from the zero mark anytime soon.Apart from the rich and the lucky middle class,can we say that everybody in Nigeria has the same access to same provisions of things that makes life easy?nope but in western world everybody both rich and poor have access to the most commonest things that makes life sweeter and better...in western world people may not be earning half of what an average Nigerian earns but are better in living life...simply put in western world both rich and poor are LIVING life while in Nigeria both rich and poor are merely EXISITING.. the difference in both[b] LIVING[/b] and EXISTING can put this way..the existing always run to the living for help and that clearly defines the abroad we talk about and the Nigeria we are comparing it with.

Finally,no place is as sweet as home,but sometimes the heat in the home will drive you outside to go receive the airconditon in another mans house and when you come back to your on house where you left you get surprised seeing the heat rashes(Poverty and stress) left in the body and faces of those in your home sweet home.Decision to relocate should not be based on what people abroad or people at home tells you...base your decision on what you actually want for yourself..is it money? or is better life or is it for the sake of running away from Nigeria...people work good jobs abroad..in US 99% of Nigerians are highly skilled and hold various top positions in their chosen profession and some destiny too kept them away from breaking through whether in abroad or back home...after all some in Nigeria started business before Dangote but some have parked up and return back to the village.But in all please do not relocate to any country without the legal way,do not run away to any country with visit visa...otherwise the sufferness you will meet wont be a nice story to write about..life is better abroad than Nigeria no matter how we explain it or try to use those that immigrated illegally and those not being fortunate to do the job they did back home which in anyway is tied to destiny...success is not by hardwork alone...success is favor from God first..to whom God chooses he bless.if you like run to jerusalem or remain in Nigeria what God decides about you is all that matters.

wisdom is the best.think carefully before you take any leap.

jiangchu:
you need to be here to know. a PHD holder driving taxi in london is more honourable than a pHD holder applying as a trailer driver in dangote. come and stay in nigeria for 6 month. you will explode. business aint moving, even artisan can't get job cos construction is flat.

mikolo80:
when all you do is consume
nobody thinks of production
enter farm
enter mine
manufacture

Ugosample:
Pidgin

I've lived in Abidjan b4
And I have spent considerable time in GH too


So don't even go there.

Life over there is FAR better than it is there in Nig.

Nig just has more opportunities, that's all

jiangchu:
who told you no one thinks about all that. you think everyone is as docile as you are. you what it takes to get nafdac approved number or to run business in this country with multiple taxation. do you think you can just plant tomatoes and take it to mile-12 and start selling. i guess you are in the corner of your room and never get engaged in the real world.

Pidgin2:
So far others are doing it then it's possible. Quit complaining let's learn how others are succeeding.

jiangchu:
BUHARI children graduated from foreign university same as saraki same as okorocha. there after they are fixed in CBN

that is how to succeed.

in what field do you play?

jiangchu:
who told you no one thinks about all that. you think everyone is as docile as you are. you what it takes to get nafdac approved number or to run business in this country with multiple taxation. do you think you can just plant tomatoes and take it to mile-12 and start selling. i guess you are in the corner of your room and never get engaged in the real world.

Pidgin2:
I pity u

mikolo80:
my farm will be planted Next Week.
not everyone is an internet warrior

Pidgin2:
I pity u

jiangchu:
i also run a poultry are you really satisfied with it and the cost.

gentleiphy:
[b][/b]All the advice and contributions by everybody here as regards the OP's question whether to stay back in Nigeria or travel abroad are all valid point made.Being objective in some decisions seems the best way to tackle issues as well as being realistic.

For starters,no country in this world is the street littered with money money that as soon as you are born or arrived the country you start picking the coins and notes on the road...you have to work through your strengths,ability,ambition and mindset to achieve anything.With that said,in every country there are rich and poor,in Nigeria there are also rich and poor,graduates in any country also have to face competition to get jobs like Nigeria.In every country people have started jobs got fired and lose it from there,same in Nigeria.In every country you also need capital to start off a business so also is too in Nigeria and if you don't have capital you cant start..however some countries have stable economic environment to encourage business growth while some the harsh economic weather can stifle any intent of succeeding in business.

Now let me go to the question.Travelling abroad should not be seen as a do or die thing and also should not be seen as a route to the syndrome of Make-money-quick..if you intend to be in a legitimate job with a legal status..its easy to delve into the make-money quick in Nigeria than elsewhere because the system in Nigeria is based on anything goes..fake drugs goes,substandard materials goes and the rotten political systems and financial fraud.So many have personal reasons to relocate under [b]LEGAL[/b]means and not on a visit visa...some also have personal reasons to remain put in Nigeria and wade through the storm of hardship created by the politicians which by the way can in the near future end and things return back to normal.

someone here rightly said that so many in Diaspora are not better of because they have not built a house in Nigeria or have any investment in Nigeria...yes but measure of success mostly are not by how many houses you own,measure of success to so many is the quality of lifestyle you live with little or no money as compared to non quality lifestyle some live with plenty money..i will explain.

Some Nigerians left the country in search of better quality life for their family,kids and have access to the most commonest basic things being denied in Nigeria.Some have held big managerial positions in Nigeria but when the chips are down they are caught up in the web of confusion and hopelessness attached to Nigerian society.Some run away from Nigeria not because they dont have this money but because they seek for quick access to good and quality health care delivery system with or without money,some seek better security and protection of their lives,some seek easy access to clean portable drinking water and 24hrs electricity,some seek the freedom and respect as a human being first and foremost where rights are both for the poor and the rich and not only for the rich and where the legal system protects them whether rich or poor,some seek to relocate to better afford their kids a fast and assured future both in education which is quality and at a pace commensurate with their age.Most also sought for better job and at the same time enjoy all that i have mentioned above..nothing good also comes easy,you have to raise the bar to fit in to the new country you relocated to.The okonjo iwealas did not just get successful in the US,she worked hard for it and which she was to be in Nigeria she would been see as being made once she gets to Abuja politics..but US offered her the opportunity to become what she is today and mind you her kids have never lived in Nigeria.

Not undermining also the achievements made by so many Nigerians in Nigeria too and all that didn't come on a platter of Gold,hard work was also visible.But the difference is,the society and its perception about what quality life should be..Nigeria is zero and not looking like its going to ascend out from the zero mark anytime soon.Apart from the rich and the lucky middle class,can we say that everybody in Nigeria has the same access to same provisions of things that makes life easy?nope but in western world everybody both rich and poor have access to the most commonest things that makes life sweeter and better...in western world people may not be earning half of what an average Nigerian earns but are better in living life...simply put in western world both rich and poor are LIVING life while in Nigeria both rich and poor are merely EXISITING.. the difference in both[b] LIVING[/b] and EXISTING can put this way..the existing always run to the living for help and that clearly defines the abroad we talk about and the Nigeria we are comparing it with.

Finally,no place is as sweet as home,but sometimes the heat in the home will drive you outside to go receive the airconditon in another mans house and when you come back to your on house where you left you get surprised seeing the heat rashes(Poverty and stress) left in the body and faces of those in your home sweet home.Decision to relocate should not be based on what people abroad or people at home tells you...base your decision on what you actually want for yourself..is it money? or is better life or is it for the sake of running away from Nigeria...people work good jobs abroad..in US 99% of Nigerians are highly skilled and hold various top positions in their chosen profession and some destiny too kept them away from breaking through whether in abroad or back home...after all some in Nigeria started business before Dangote but some have parked up and return back to the village.But in all please do not relocate to any country without the legal way,do not run away to any country with visit visa...otherwise the sufferness you will meet wont be a nice story to write about..life is better abroad than Nigeria no matter how we explain it or try to use those that immigrated illegally and those not being fortunate to do the job they did back home which in anyway is tied to destiny...success is not by hardwork alone...success is favor from God first..to whom God chooses he bless.if you like run to jerusalem or remain in Nigeria what God decides about you is all that matters.

wisdom is the best.think carefully before you take any leap.

RELEASEUS:
Dont say what you dont know without making research. As civil Engineer in Qatar, I and many colleagues from Kenya, South Africa, Europeans, America, Sudan and many more are doing very well here. If you are a skilled professional then you have no problem at all. I never in my life thought I will buy a brand new 2016 ride delivered on flat bed truck while in Nigeria. Medical is 100% free here even if its heart operation. So forget Canada, Us and UK.some of them are runing to the middle east. More so tax is zero here. So bros abeg boon the western world.

mctowel01:
Lol... life savings?? ... Lack of information is the problem. I spent less than 4kusd to become a permanent resident in Australia. Its all about opportunity man.

mctowel01:
Dont be ridiculous,..Nothing is free, even in freetown.. Dubai is a great place to visit... much more developed than Nigeria, calling it a hype is stupid.

fbtowner:
I like your thinking faculty. Just like mine.


Take my case for example.

All my male cousins had gone to Dubai. And we are all Graduates oo. And we even have up to 2-3 hand work each Take me for example. Im a certified Mobile and computer Engineer both hard and software. And also an Integrated plumber both domestic and industrial, also a graduate of Economic


Same as all my cousin. We all had same hand work.


To be sincere with u. I have not for a once envy their life over there. They have been asking me to come.


So i started thinking. Leaving my business where im my own boss. Leaving all my professions and become a security guard in another mans land doesnt seems like an upgrade to me. Though im not very bouyant here. But i know future is bright.


Most people out there are not that making it Most of them engage in illegal activities. Dont ever be carried away with those sweet pictures and selfies they take in fine places. Dont be decieved


And if u have a Benin friend. It wont help matter. Those people dont believe they are human unless they travel out of naija.

Please watch and listen to this in close door.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wumZv3pmERA

Topshow4real:
I think it's better I work as a security guard in Dubai with better pay than depending on parents for months after nysc without hope of getting job soon...

Lloydfolarin:


Pls, as a fellow Nigerian, ensure you have your working permit before leaving Nigeria for another country...

Pls and pls, the suffering ll be too much to bear if you don't have papers

If anybody advise you against what i wrote here, that person is your enemy on earth and in heaven

Coming to western world without papers is like living in Nigeria without primary school certificate, no vocational skills, no eyes, no legs etc

Without papers, you ll be forced to do Drugs which might land you in prison for the next 10years...

Pls, stay back home or get a working permit.

You are welcome anytime to western world with your working permit but without it, your blood brother ll become your enemy in few weeks after your arrival

fbtowner:
The choice is yours bro. Getting a job in Dubai is like playing cards. Don't let agents lie to u.

My brothers over there said a lot of ppl come back to Nigeria because they couldn't secure a job till their tourist visa expired.


He also said a lot of ppl are coming there from all part of Africa even Philippines Indians Lebanese. The list is countless.


He also said the reason why getting a job as a Nigerian there is like playing card 50/50. Is because they believe we have very poor IT knowledge

This information above is not something u would hear from a travel agent.


So if u cant put ur self to good use here u can try ur luck there as well.


Good luck