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Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 6:22am On Jul 14, 2017

The Father didn't tell you to pray "to" Mary-nor did He tell you to pray "for" Mary, She is already saved-spending time with the Lord in Heaven-it is right for you to pray for the living, left on Earth-and it is right for you to obey the Word of God, and pray straight to the Father who is in heaven.

emmanuelex1:
I do not remember trying to impress you, then run your race while I run mine. If I ask Mary to pray for me and other sinners it is not your race race but mine. I know who I worship so run your own race and I will run mine

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 6:30am On Jul 14, 2017*

No-one is telling you what race to run-all I am telling you is run the race God directed you to run.
And His race isn't denying His Word-which you have already done-one must be born again before He/She can enter into the kingdom of God.

emmanuelex1:
Thanks for the info but I am still a Catholic and I know who I served. I do not remember trying to impress you, then run your race while I run mine. If I ask Mary to pray for me and other sinners it is not your race race but mine. I know who I worship so run your own race and I will run mine

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 6:31am On Jul 14, 2017

Thanks, and I will say a prayer for you too

Ubenedictus:
Do see a priest if you truly wish to be informed on these issues? i'll say a prayer for your welbeing.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by emmanuelex1(m): 2:32am On Jul 15, 2017

Direct yours while direct mine, thanks

brocab:
No-one is telling you what race to run-all I am telling you is run the race God directed you to run.
And His race isn't denying His Word-which you have already done-one must be born again before He/She can enter into the kingdom of God.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by emmanuelex1(m): 2:33am On Jul 15, 2017

Thanks but I see no harm asking Mary or you to pray for me.

brocab:
The Father didn't tell you to pray "to" Mary-nor did He tell you to pray "for" Mary, She is already saved-spending time with the Lord in Heaven-it is right for you to pray for the living, left on Earth-and it is right for you to obey the Word of God, and pray straight to the Father who is in heaven.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by emmanuelex1(m): 2:34am On Jul 15, 2017

Thanks but I see no harm telling Mary to pray me since you already acknowledge she is spending time with the lord.

brocab:
The Father didn't tell you to pray "to" Mary-nor did He tell you to pray "for" Mary, She is already saved-spending time with the Lord in Heaven-it is right for you to pray for the living, left on Earth-and it is right for you to obey the Word of God, and pray straight to the Father who is in heaven.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 3:38am On Jul 15, 2017

Why did Jesus strongly speak about lukewarm faith?
{Answer} {In Revelation 3;14-21} The Lord is describing the "Lukewarm" Heart attitude of those in the Laodicean Church, an attitude manifested by their deeds.
The Loadiceans were neither cold nor hot, in relation to God, Just lukewarm, hot water can cleanse and purify, cold water can refresh and enliven.
But Lukewarm water carries no similar value.
The Loadiceans understood the Lords analogy because their city drinking water came over aqueduct from a spring six miles to the South, and it arrived disgustingly Lukewarm, the Loadiceans water was not hot like the nearby hot springs that people bathed in, nor was it refleshingly cold for drinking,'It was Lukewarm" good for nothing.
In fact it was nauseating, and that was the Lords response to the Loadiceans, they sickened Him, and He said" I am about to spit you out of My Mouth {Verse 16}
The letter to the Church of Loadicea is the harshest of the "Seven Letters to the Churches" in Asia Minor.
By His indictment of their deeds [Revelation 3:15} Jesus makes it clear that this is a dead Church.
The members of this see themselves as "Rich" and self-sufficient, but the Lord see's then as wretch pitiful, poor blind and naked" {verse 17} Their lukewarm faith was "Hypocritical" their Church was full of unconverted, pretend Christians.
Jesus frequently equates deeds with a persons true Spiritual state" By their fruit you will recognise them," and every good tree that bears good fruit {Matthew 7:16-17}.
Clearly the lukewarm deeds of the Loadiceans were not in keeping with true Salvation.
The deeds of a true believer will be "Hot or Cold" That is, they will benefit the world in some way and reflect the Spiritual passion of a life transformed.Lukewarm deeds however-those done without joy" without love" and without the fire of the Spirit" do harm to the watching world..
"The lukewarm are those who claim to know God, but live as though He doesn't exist". They may go to Church and practice a form of religion, but their inner state is one of self righteous complacency, They claim to be Christians but their hearts is unchanged, and their hypocrisy is sickening to God.
The fact that the individuals to whom Christ speaks are not saved" is seen in the picture outside the Church {Revelation 3:20} He has not yet been welcomed into their midst, In love the Lord rebukes and disciplines them, commanding them to repent {Verse 19} He see's their lukewarm attitudes as "shameful unclothedness" That needs to be clothed in the white garments if true righteousness {Verse 18} He earnest or zealous, and commit themselves totally to Him. 'Our Lord is gracious and long suffering and gives the Lukewarm time to repent"
So come along Catholic's there is still time to give yourselves totally over to Jesus, it isn't to late, to become a born again believer-and receive the Holy Spirit to teach you all things. Your life will have a new light shining upon you, the power of God will flow through you, and the glory of the Lord will save you.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 3:44am On Jul 15, 2017

Why not ask the Lord to pray for you-it is much easier when we obey Him, at His Word.
Mary can't save you-Jesus can..

emmanuelex1:
Thanks but I see no harm telling Mary to pray me since you already acknowledge she is spending time with the lord.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 3:56am On Jul 15, 2017

Well for fact-Mary can't pray for you-but I can pray for you-Jesus is the God of the living-he isn't the God of the dead-Mary maybe Living in Heaven-She doesn't need our prayers-she had already finish her race-"I believe she made it to heaven?
I don't pray to my sister in heaven-and I don't ask her to give me, other saints to pray for me, matter of fact-I thank the Lord for taken her there.
Why not pray for each other, "we" the living-needs others to pray for us daily.

emmanuelex1:
Thanks but I see no harm asking Mary or you to pray for me.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by orunto27: 8:22am On Jul 15, 2017

"The Rosery is "The Staff" of Moses "The Scalf" of Elijah and "The Key" of Power given Simon Peter for all Righteousness".

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by emmanuelex1(m): 12:32am On Jul 16, 2017

If you feel Mary can not pray for me then please leave that to me worry about.

brocab:
Well for fact-Mary can't pray for you-but I can pray for you-Jesus is the God of the living-he isn't the God of the dead-Mary maybe Living in Heaven-She doesn't need our prayers-she had already finish her race-"I believe she made it to heaven?
I don't pray to my sister in heaven-and I don't ask her to give me, other saints to pray for me, matter of fact-I thank the Lord for taken her there.
Why not pray for each other, "we" the living-needs others to pray for us daily.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by emmanuelex1(m): 12:35am On Jul 16, 2017

We ask Mary to pray for us does not me mean we do not pray to Jesus. We Catholics pray to Jesus very well, we do not ask Jesus to pray for us rather we pray to him and ask Mary to assist us with prayers also.

brocab:
Why not ask the Lord to pray for you-it is much easier when we obey Him, at His Word.
Mary can't save you-Jesus can..

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 4:19am On Jul 16, 2017

emmanuelex1:
We ask Mary to pray for us does not me mean we do not pray to Jesus. We Catholics pray to Jesus very well, we do not ask Jesus to pray for us rather we pray to him and ask Mary to assist us with prayers also.

The saved pray to God, not to man, or woman in the case of rc

Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

The Holy Spirit helps believers with prayer, believers don't pray to people who have died to help them pray,
unless you can show scripture saying we are to pray to mary and others who have died, to pray for us?

Bible tells us the Spirit helps us in prayer

rc say mary and others who have died help us in prayer.

produce Bible verses to prove your own words.

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Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 4:23am On Jul 16, 2017

orunto27:
"The Rosery is "The Staff" of Moses "The Scalf" of Elijah and "The Key" of Power given Simon Peter for all Righteousness".

Is that more rc rubbish belief?
or maybe u from other brain washed mob,
plenty of you around,
most of all "so called" christianity is of the devil.

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

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Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by emmanuelex1(m): 6:49am On Jul 16, 2017

Probably you have turned a prophet to know what upsets me or rather is that your goal? well ride on Ignorance is still your probably, just keeping assuming, meanwhile I am going to my Catholic church to worship and I do not know if that pains you? but anyways I careless

brocab:
This upsets you-believing your Church is above all other Churches-But to be honest-people who call themselves Catholic's are not Catholic-its only the name that carries them through life.
Many people only use the term Catholic because they either were baptised as one-but deep down-none have walked into a Catholic Church since birth.
Which doesn't count-you believing there are more Catholic's then the rest of the other believers, the bible strictly tell us, one must be born again before He/She can enter into the kingdom of God.
And Catholic's aren't born again Christians, you all have your own beliefs that doesn't line up with the bible.
Are you truly God's people? My answer to this question is "No" There is no evidence to prove the Catholic's are God's people, plus you use another doctrine, one that doesn't line up with the Word.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by orunto27: 8:38am On Jul 16, 2017

Flesh and Blood have not told me whatever I say. I belong to "The Righteous". I don't talk rubbish 'cos I don't parade Paranoia.
May my God forgive your ignorance IJN AMEN.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 8:45am On Jul 16, 2017

No not-really, like you had said-its your walk, but don't get up God-when your time is up-saying to Him, no-one told me, I had to become a born again Christian, before I enter into the kingdom of God.

emmanuelex1:
Probably you have turned a prophet to know what upsets me or rather is that your goal? well ride on Ignorance is still your probably, just keeping assuming, meanwhile I am going to my Catholic church to worship and I do not know if that pains you? but anyways I careless

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 8:53am On Jul 16, 2017

You don't ask Jesus in prayer to assist you in any way-but you ask Mary to assist you?
{John 17:20-23} Without asking-Jesus prays for all believers. "Did you hear me, I said: He prays for all believers.
So I suppose you not being a believer-it is alright-for you to pray to whom you like.

emmanuelex1:
We ask Mary to pray for us does not me mean we do not pray to Jesus. We Catholics pray to Jesus very well, we do not ask Jesus to pray for us rather we pray to him and ask Mary to assist us with prayers also.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by orunto27: 8:56am On Jul 16, 2017

When you're my Mother and I always receive anything from you with a Bow and a Thank you, am I worshipping you or just honouring you as decreed by thesame God Who was born for us by Mary?
Mary is The Mother and Nature of all Righteous Humans of which I am one!!!
Eve is the mother of Evil!!!

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 9:01am On Jul 16, 2017

Well then if you a righteous person-well thank you, besides Jesus, we have another, non sinner.

orunto27:
When you're my Mother and I always receive anything from you with a Bow and a Thank you, am I worshipping you or just honouring you as decreed by thesame God Who was born for us by Mary?
Mary is The Mother and Nature of all Righteous Humans of which I am one!!!
Eve is the mother of Evil!!!

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 9:07am On Jul 16, 2017

If Mary could pray for you-then the Word of God would have said so...
{John 17:20-23} Should be every-bodies answer, and if you refuse the truth-then pray to whom you like, but don't expect answers in a hurry.
Only Jesus can answer our prayers.

emmanuelex1:
If you feel Mary can not pray for me then please leave that to me worry about.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 9:09am On Jul 16, 2017

Are you on drugs?

orunto27:
"The Rosery is "The Staff" of Moses "The Scalf" of Elijah and "The Key" of Power given Simon Peter for all Righteousness".

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 9:13am On Jul 16, 2017*

My sister is also spending time with the Lord-I don't pray to her-I pray to the Lord-my sister-can't bring me closer to God-that's my choice to make.
She made Her choice-and she made the best choice-now it's my turn to make my choice.
{1 Peter 2:9} But you are a chosen race, a Royal priesthood, A Holy nation, A people for "God's" only procession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.
Haven't you ever wondered why Mary's name-doesn't retrieve a mention, like the Father's the Son and the Holy Spirit, Mary isn't part of the Godhead-the bible isn't written for Mary-it is written for God, our focus is He alone-everything we do for God-is done in His name.
You find Mary the Mother of Jesus-above any other name-she can't give us light-take us out of darkness-nor can she make any decisions, this is your choice now-which God you worship.

emmanuelex1:
Thanks but I see no harm telling Mary to pray me since you already acknowledge she is spending time with the lord.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 9:28am On Jul 16, 2017*

Mary"s tried, she had already done her hard yards-now let her rest-she needs it, Why not give all your prayer deeds to Jesus-He can fix everything you ask.

emmanuelex1:
Thanks but I see no harm asking Mary or you to pray for me.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by orunto27: 9:44am On Jul 16, 2017

Jesus Christ is real and alive now.
All Glory be to God Who acted manytimes in Mary in thesame way as Osinbajo is now acting for His(God's) Presidency in Nigeria.
Roman Catholics honour Mary the same way Nigerians is honouring Osinbajo now.
Mary acted God when:-
1, She instructed the 3 wise men to talk directly to The Baby in the Cradle.
2, At the Wedding in Cana, She instructed her Son to provide drinkables to the Quests.
3, She also instructed jesus' Disciples to obey Him.
4, She sang The Magnificant and The Baby leaped in her by The Inspiration of The Holy Spirit of God and Jesus Christ.
Mary carried Holy Spirit. Mary bore Holy Spirit. Mary is an embodiment, Cloak, Armour and Shalom of The Holy Spirit.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 9:58am On Jul 16, 2017*

Are you sure you aren't on drug's-please where does it say their were three wise men, and where in the bible does it say, Mary instructed three wise men-to talk with Jesus in the cradle?
Mary may have mentioned a few things concerning Jesus-but this didn't come directly from Mary herself-the Holy Spirit-gave Mary the things to say.
If you would like to join in, please do-but give us a break-we are talking bible here-not made up stories.

orunto27:
Jesus Christ is real and alive now.
All Glory be to God Who acted manytimes in Mary in thesame way as Osinbajo is now acting for His(God's) Presidency in Nigeria.
Roman Catholics honour Mary the same way Nigerians is honouring Osinbajo now.
Mary acted God when:-
1, She instructed the 3 wise men to talk directly to The Baby in the Cradle.
2, At the Wedding in Cana, She instructed her Son to provide drinkables to the Quests.
3, She also instructed jesus' Disciples to obey Him.
4, She sang The Magnificant and The Baby leaped in her by The Inspiration of The Holy Spirit of God and Jesus Christ.
Mary carried Holy Spirit. Mary bore Holy Spirit. Mary is an embodiment, Cloak, Armour and Shalom of The Holy Spirit.

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Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by emmanuelex1(m): 12:32pm On Jul 16, 2017

I am sorry I stil pray to Jesus but I will stil continue to ask a Mary to pray for me.

brocab:
Mary"s tried, she had already done her hard yards-now let her rest-she needs it, Why not give all your prayer deeds to Jesus-He can fix everything you ask.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by emmanuelex1(m): 12:35pm On Jul 16, 2017

I am sorry not to accept you idea. I will still continuing praying to Jesus but I will stil continue to ask a Mary to pray for me.

brocab:
Are you sure you aren't on drug's-please where does it say their were three wise men, and where in the bible does it say, Mary instructed three wise men-to talk with Jesus in the cradle?
Mary may have mentioned a few thing concerning Jesus-but this didn't come directly from Mary herself-the Holy Spirit-gave Mary the things to say.
If you would like to join in, please do-but give us a break-we are talking bible here-not made up stories.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by emmanuelex1(m): 12:38pm On Jul 16, 2017

I am still feel you are ignorant of Catholicism, I am sorry not to buy your idea. I will still continuing praying to Jesus but I will stil continue to ask a Mary to pray for me.

johnw74:
The saved pray to God, not to man, or woman in the case of rc

Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

The Holy Spirit helps believers with prayer, believers don't pray to people who have died to help them pray,
unless you can show scripture saying we are to pray to mary and others who have died, to pray for us?

Bible tells us the Spirit helps us in prayer

rc say mary and others who have died help us in prayer.

produce Bible verses to prove your own words.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 2:18pm On Jul 16, 2017

Than ask if you wish-but Mary can't do anything for you. But Jesus can, and He will, only if you will ask Him.

emmanuelex1:
I am sorry not to accept you idea. I will still continuing praying to Jesus but I will stil continue to ask a Mary to pray for me.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 2:23pm On Jul 16, 2017*

You don't have to be sorry to me-I am not the one you will have to stand up too-when your time is up.
You need to repent before Jesus-He is the one that makes all the decisions-where we go at the end of this age.
I suppose you could ask Mary to pray for you-I don't know how far you will go with that? Mary's Spirit is with the Lord-her body is still waiting for the day Jesus comes back-the dead will raise first-and those who are alive will meet them in the clouds, as the Word of God explains.
So if you actually believe Mary's Spirit can save you-go ahead-all we can say' we have tried to help you understand all bible truth.

emmanuelex1:
I am sorry I stil pray to Jesus but I will stil continue to ask a Mary to pray for me.

Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 2:35pm On Jul 16, 2017

We aren't ignorant of Catholicism at all-the problem is-you claim to be a Catholic-and none of you seem to know anything about the religion you stand up for.
And every time we ask anything about your religion, none of you, can answer our questions. Which of course not only does it confuse us, we of course know it confuses you more.
So you see-when the questions are asked-we retrieve the wrong answers from you, some of you write down scriptures-which none of them relate to our questions?
This is why we know-none of you-have any bible knowledge, because none of you are Spirit filled believers, and without having the Spirit-it is impossible to even try to know the bible.
Jesus said by their fruit, we will know them...
And of course we know you...

emmanuelex1:
I am still feel you are ignorant of Catholicism, I am sorry not to buy your idea. I will still continuing praying to Jesus but I will stil continue to ask a Mary to pray for me.

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