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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 7:57am On Jul 17, 2017
I'm not saying Disu is a member of this thread oh, but some of his points in this interview is something some of us have been saying for awhile now. Rohr looks like a hardworking manager, the type that will follow print and electronic media reportage of his team.
In this regard we expect nessesary changes and adjustments when we face Cameroun.
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Disu warns Rohr on tactics against Cameroon



Tunde Disu, former Technical Director, Nigeria Football Federation (NFF), on Sunday warned Super Eagles coach Genort Rohr against wrong tactics against Cameroon in the Russia 2018 qualifiers on September 1.
Disu told the News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) in Lagos that the team’s tactical formation against South Africa in the AFCON qualifiers was wrong and should not be used again.
He said that the Eagles loss to Bafana Bafana in the AFCON qualifiers was due to wrong tactical formation, adding that the Indomitable Lions of Cameroon would be more tactical.
“The formation used by Rohr during the AFCON qualifier against South Africa is wrong tactics. He cannot use a supporting striker as an arrow head when using 4-3-3.
“Rohr should know that Kelechi Iheanacho cannot spearhead attack, that is not his role and that is why he is roaming about during the match against South Africa without a shot at goal.
“I want them to sit down and analyse the match themselves, that system is faulty because most teams can now predict the formation. If we use that selection and tactics, we will be embarrassed.
“Rohr should align with the modern tactics of play rather than stick with the old play which will not benefit us. We are too predictable now.
Disu said that the players at the disposal of Rohr were good enough to accommodate another formation which was less probable to opposing teams.
“We cannot continue to use the 4-3-3 formation, it’s outdated and counterproductive. We should rather play 4-2-3-1 which is far better for the defenders.
“The players determine the system and not the system that determines the players. It is better to have two defensive midfielders in front of the defenders, maybe if there is an overlapping one.
“Playing 4-3-2-1 formation also means that we need intimidating strikers like the late Rashidi Yekini to torment the opposing teams. We have Gbolahan Salami before but I don’t know if he is not called.
“The lone striker may be very tall and strong to hold the ball up as his midfielders while full-backs join him in attack. The striker could also be very fast.
“African soccer is more physical and there is need for us to have a strong striker in the manner of Salami that can torment the defence of our opponent,’’ he said.
Disu warned Rohr to be wary of Cameroon threat could pose to the Eagles’ qualification, adding that a loss to Indomitable Lions would close the qualification ticket.
“I want the coach to be careful with the Cameroonians so that they will not scuttle our chances; any defeat to them closes the qualification ticket.
“It does not matter where we are now because we won’t be begging Cameroon to lose any of their games after defeating us.
“The Indomitable Lions are in form now and they are using the modern formation. Rohr needs to change that formation or else we will be out of contention.
“To beat those indomitable Lions, a very good top 9 will be a good option and not necessarily to score goals but to torment the defence line and maybe to create chances for others,’’ he said
Disu said that other countries and clubs have been winning through the golden formation, noting that countries that had yet to play the style were lagging behind.
“I want to give the example between Spain national team and the Germans. The Germans are more tactical in their formation and are not playing false 9 like their Spanish counterparts.
“The golden formation continues to have the upper hands. In these cases, the opponent’s defense will be forced to fall back early, thereby leaving space for the offensive central midfielder.

“Rohr does not need to inject fresh blood into the team but play within what he has to achieve better results. We are blessed with players that can suit the golden formation.
“The coach should also have two options in which he can switch and Iheanacho should drop back for a strong striker for him to be effective,’’ he said.

https://m.guardian.ng/sport/disu-warns-rohr-on-tactics-against-cameroon/
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:13pm On Jul 17, 2017
Oga no surprises. Even a very fit Cilic would have still lost. US Open title next. FedEx for 20.

do4luv14:
guy how you see today final btw ROGER and MARIN huh
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:20pm On Jul 17, 2017
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:21pm On Jul 17, 2017
Now we have an experienced coach Disu with a degree of knowledge. Saying almost verbatim what quite a few informed and observant contributors have already said time and time again.

Unfortunately some sentimental miss informed comments have accused some of us as being unpatriotic and prejudiced against the Golden boy who can do no wrong KC.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 2:36pm On Jul 17, 2017
komekn:
Now we have an experienced coach Disu with a degree of knowledge. Saying almost verbatim what quite a few informed and observant contributors have already said time and time again.

Unfortunately some sentimental miss informed comments have accused some of us as being unpatriotic and prejudiced against the Golden boy who can do no wrong KC.
You are looking for trouble. I remember talking about how poor Kelechi was against Algeria and my head was almost swallowed.

Kelechi's best games for Nigeria have come when he played behind the main striker. Playing him as a top man has not worked.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 3:21pm On Jul 17, 2017
tbaba1234:
You are looking for trouble. I remember talking about how poor Kelechi was against Algeria and my head was almost swallowed.

Kelechi's best games for Nigeria have come when he played behind the main striker. Playing him as a top man has not worked.
The Disu guy is even confused, we played a 4-2-3-1 on the day and he said we played a 4-3-3, though I wouldn't blame him because Rohr isn't the most tactical manager there is. I do however agree with everything else he said thought, he made point
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:12pm On Jul 17, 2017
disu made very good points. the part i liked was his opinion that the top 9 doesn't necessarily have to be the goal getter as long as he is keeping opposition defenders occupied and creating openings for teammates to score
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 5:04pm On Jul 17, 2017
komekn:
Now we have an experienced coach Disu with a degree of knowledge. Saying almost verbatim what quite a few informed and observant contributors have already said time and time again.

Unfortunately some sentimental miss informed comments have accused some of us as being unpatriotic and prejudiced against the Golden boy who can do no wrong KC.
Tunde Disu is another hater who aired his jaundiced opinion . You know the drill.

I reckon those making the defence that he wasn't given through balls, only watched the game highlights and not the match.
That is the only logical reason I can come up with.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 5:32pm On Jul 17, 2017
do4luv14:
ah tell you, nah wetin make Liverpool, man u, arsenal, even ma own Chelsea sef link with IGHALO,

I still remember. When went wan buy, DEENEY, gunners fans wan kill am, say instead of DEENEY nah IGHALO Dem want,

onli for that hotel manager to come spoil show;o
Well, he's replaced by Marco Silva who impressed with hull city, let's hope he brings out the best in "Isaac success"
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 6:41pm On Jul 17, 2017
goldfish80:
Tunde Disu is another hater who aired his jaundiced opinion . You know the drill.

I reckon those making the defence that he wasn't given through balls, only watched the game highlights and not the match.
That is the only logical reason I can come up with.
I watched the full match a few times and I still say he didn't get service. I had always said Nacho would be better as a SS if u remember I brought up his stats in both positions but my claim has little to do with his position. He was not poor against SA.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 6:43pm On Jul 17, 2017
junnyjake:
Well, he's replaced by Marco Silva who impressed with hull city, let's hope he brings out the best in "Isaac success"
Isaac must start scoring goals. He has every physical trait it takes to be a boss in the game, he just needs to prove what we already know.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:44pm On Jul 17, 2017
junnyjake:
Well, he's replaced by Marco Silva who impressed with hull city, let's hope he brings out the best in "Isaac success"
Ighalo started flopping even before Sanches Flores left, let's not blame any coach, he lost form simple
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:44pm On Jul 17, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
I watched the full match a few times and I still say he didn't get service. I had always said Nacho would be better as a SS if u remember I brought up his stats in both positions but my claim has little to do with his position. He was not poor against SA.
So when the service did not come what did he do as the 'world class' player he is? He didn't bring others into the game, that's the basic point here
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 7:36pm On Jul 17, 2017
Mickael2:
So when the service did not come what did he do as the 'world class' player he is? He didn't bring others into the game, that's the basic point here
How did we have a good first half if u say our striker didn't bring others in the game? How did Etebo get his chance didn't Iheanacho bring him into the game? We are talking about midfielders basically lobbing the ball straight to the keeper.
Btw who said Nacho was World Class? We pray and hope he will be but lets not turn this into a comedy show.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 7:41pm On Jul 17, 2017
Mickael2:
Ighalo started flopping even before Sanches Flores left, let's not blame any coach, he lost form simple
I was willing to accept that until I saw how they ended last season. The right move was leaving Watford because the players were simply happy with beating relegation. His only fault was not taking a bow at the loudest ovation.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 8:30pm On Jul 17, 2017
Mickael2:
Ighalo started flopping even before Sanches Flores left, let's not blame any coach, he lost form simple
I agree, he lost his goal scoring form under Flores.

I'm not blaming Walter of any wrong.

It's only natural for players to lose form, many recover from that and even become better players than they were.

Would you agree with me that a contrast in playing/managerial style of a coach can affect a player?

Don't forget, Denney was also affected and we had players like capoue, (abi wetin be him name) Okaka taking over the goal-scoring responsibility.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 8:38pm On Jul 17, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
Isaac must start scoring goals. He has every physical trait it takes to be a boss in the game, he just needs to prove what we already know.
Yes o.

I pray for him 'a season free of injuries'

I really want him to be successful.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Certitude(m): 9:59pm On Jul 17, 2017
Mickael2:
The Disu guy is even confused, we played a 4-2-3-1 on the day and he said we played a 4-3-3, though I wouldn't blame him because Rohr isn't the most tactical manager there is. I do however agree with everything else he said thought, he made point
Una don't start... which one be Rohr isn't the most tactical manager again
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:17pm On Jul 17, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
How did we have a good first half if u say our striker didn't bring others in the game? How did Etebo get his chance didn't Iheanacho bring him into the game? We are talking about midfielders basically lobbing the ball straight to the keeper.
Btw who said Nacho was World Class? We pray and hope he will be but lets not turn this into a comedy show.
First of all, zero shot on target isn't a good half. Second, it was Moses simon that held up the ball, poked it to Nacho who squared to Etebo so it was virtually Moses that brought them into the game. If you play football, you will know that nothing is sweeter than 'touch and go' which the midfielders were doing till they get to the final third but because Nacho was only concerned with playing off the shoulder of the last man, they couldn't do that with him all game long
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:17pm On Jul 17, 2017
Certitude:
Una don't start... which one be Rohr isn't the most tactical manager again
everyone knows that easily
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:19pm On Jul 17, 2017
junnyjake:
I agree, he lost his goal scoring form under Flores.

I'm not blaming Walter of any wrong.

It's only natural for players to lose form, many recover from that and even become better players than they were.

Would you agree with me that a contrast in playing/managerial style of a coach can affect a player?

Don't forget, Denney was also affected and we had players like capoue, (abi wetin be him name) Okaka taking over the goal-scoring responsibility.
I am not saying that the coach was great, just that players lose form naturally sometimes as you mentioned
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:59pm On Jul 17, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
How did we have a good first half if u say our striker didn't bring others in the game? How did Etebo get his chance didn't Iheanacho bring him into the game? We are talking about midfielders basically lobbing the ball straight to the keeper.
Btw who said Nacho was World Class? We pray and hope he will be but lets not turn this into a comedy show.
khikhikiki
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:35pm On Jul 17, 2017
Mickael2:
First of all, zero shot on target isn't a good half. Second, it was Moses simon that held up the ball, poked it to Nacho who squared to Etebo so it was virtually Moses that brought them into the game. If you play football, you will know that nothing is sweeter than 'touch and go' which the midfielders were doing till they get to the final third but because Nacho was only concerned with playing off the shoulder of the last man, they couldn't do that with him all game long
However you want to paint the story fits u but I know that Nacho waited for Etebo's run, hence bringing him into the game. We didn't build up well enough. Our midfield madly needed Mikel, everyone seemed content playing chucking long balls.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 12:38am On Jul 18, 2017
Pre season goals for Osimhen, Ekong

Goal for Junior Ajayi for Al Ahly vs Zamalek.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 1:14am On Jul 18, 2017
tbaba1234:
Pre season goals for Osimhen, Ekong
Goal for Junior Ajayi for Al Ahly vs Zamalek.
Osimhen goal was ruled out for offside.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 1:56am On Jul 18, 2017
junnyjake:
Osimhen goal was ruled out for offside.
You are correct, thanks
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:15pm On Jul 18, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
However you want to paint the story fits u but I know that Nacho waited for Etebo's run, hence bringing him into the game. We didn't build up well enough. Our midfield madly needed Mikel, everyone seemed content playing chucking long balls.
see the picture I am painting now, Moses Simon found himself in the box and despite how small he is, he managed to help create a very good chance, if Etebo had scored, the assist would have gone to Nacho and Moses will be totally forgotten but we would have won so nobody would care. Now let's say Nacho was able to do what Moses did like 3 times, he may not have gotten an assist but we would have scored, that is what Disu is saying, the CF does not really need to score, just help create chances and we are good to go
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:15pm On Jul 18, 2017
Mickael2:
see the picture I am painting now, Moses Simon found himself in the box and despite how small he is, he managed to help create a very good chance, if Etebo had scored, the assist would have gone to Nacho and Moses will be totally forgotten but we would have won so nobody would care. Now let's say Nacho was able to do what Moses did like 3 times, he may not have gotten an assist but we would have scored, that is what Disu is saying, the CF does not really need to score, just help create chances and we are good to go
Moses didn't hold up anything for Pete sake the boy tapped a loose ball to Nacho. It still depends on the passing all the same. If the ball doesn't make it to his area then how does he hold the ball up?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 1:35pm On Jul 18, 2017
all of a Sudden we are about to replay the same argument because Disu said this or that.. are we lacking stories for argument? Una don chop?

BascoVanVeli:
Moses didn't hold up anything for Pete sake the boy tapped a loose ball to Nacho. It still depends on the passing all the same. If the ball doesn't make it to his area then how does he hold the ball up?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 1:38pm On Jul 18, 2017
Which Nigerian's move to Belgium do you fancy most and why?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:52pm On Jul 18, 2017
Joebie:
all of a Sudden we are about to replay the same argument because Disu said this or that.. are we lacking stories for argument? Una don chop?
No this is about the match against SA.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jieta: 1:54pm On Jul 18, 2017
CHAN Qualifier: Home Eagles to hit camp on Thursday.




The home-based Super Eagles are expected to
be in camp on Thursday to start preparation for
their second round 2018 African Nations
Championship (CHAN) qualifier against either
Benin Republic or Togo.


This was announced on the Super Eagles
official Twitter handle on Sunday.
The 2018 CHAN will hold in Kenya from
January 11 to February 2.
It however stated that the venue for the camp
will be made known in a later date, although
Kano has been mentioned as a possible host
city.


“Our camp for the #2018CHAN qualifiers vs
Benin Rep/Togo will now open on Thursday,
July 20, 2017. Camp site will be communicated
later,” the Super Eagles handle wrote.
The home-based Eagles, coached by Salisu
Yusuf, will be away to either Benin Republic or
Togo in the first leg on August 11.
They will host the second leg on August 19
with the winner qualifying for the 2018 CHAN
tournament.


The first leg, first round qualifier between Togo
and Benin Republic, comes up today (Sunday)
in Lome. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/07/chan-qualifier-home-eagles-hit-camp-thursday/
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