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orunto27:
Jesus Christ is real and alive now.
All Glory be to God Who acted manytimes in Mary in thesame way as Osinbajo is now acting for His(God's) Presidency in Nigeria.
Roman Catholics honour Mary the same way Nigerians is honouring Osinbajo now.
Mary acted God when:-
1, She instructed the 3 wise men to talk directly to The Baby in the Cradle.
2, At the Wedding in Cana, She instructed her Son to provide drinkables to the Quests.
3, She also instructed jesus' Disciples to obey Him.
4, She sang The Magnificant and The Baby leaped in her by The Inspiration of The Holy Spirit of God and Jesus Christ.
Mary carried Holy Spirit. Mary bore Holy Spirit. Mary is an embodiment, Cloak, Armour and Shalom of The Holy Spirit.

brocab:
We aren't ignorant of Catholicism at all-the problem is-you claim to be a Catholic-and none of you seem to know anything about the religion you stand up for.
And every time we ask anything about your religion, none of you, can answer our questions. Which of course not only does it confuse us, we of course know it confuses you more.
So you see-when the questions are asked-we retrieve the wrong answers from you, some of you write down scriptures-which none of them relate to our questions?
This is why we know-none of you-have any bible knowledge, because none of you are Spirit filled believers, and without having the Spirit-it is impossible to even try to know the bible.
Jesus said by their fruit, we will know them...
And of course we know you...

brocab:
And don't forget as the bible tells us-Elizabeth carried the Holy Spirit too.
{Luke 1:41} When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leap up in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.
I can't seem to find, where it says, Mary sang, and the Holy Spirit leap up in her womb?
This is why it is important to write scripture-not something the Catholic's have thought up out of the blue.

emmanuelex1:
Your points are too weak to lower the significance of Mary but you should have asked Elizabeth to carry Jesus for you.

emmanuelex1:
I am still feel you are ignorant of Catholicism, I am sorry not to buy your idea. I will still continuing praying to Jesus but I will stil continue to ask a Mary to pray for me.

johnw74:
@bold blue, Not my idea. You mean, " you are sorry not to believe the Bible"
because that's where my post was from, "the Spirit makes intercession for us"
Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

I gave Bible verse showing so,
now you give scripture showing you should pray to mary.

emmanuelex1:
The Mistake you continously make which I do not know if it is a genetic issue is that------ I ask Mary to pray for me, not praying to Mary(in terms of worship) please employ any English translator close to you to help you explain.

emmanuelex1:
The Mistake you continously make which I do not know if it is a genetic issue is that------ I ask Mary to pray for me, not praying to Mary(in terms of worship) please employ any English translator close to you to help you explain.

emmanuelex1:
Yes but you should have asked Elizabeth to carry Jesus for you.

emmanuelex1:
The Mistake you continously make which I do not know if it is a genetic issue is that------ I ask Mary to pray for me, not praying to Mary(in terms of worship) please employ any English translator close to you to help you explain.

emmanuelex1:
I am still feel you are ignorant of Catholicism, I am sorry not to buy your idea. I will still continuing praying to Jesus but I will stil continue to ask a Mary to pray for me.

emmanuelex1:
It depend on what you choose to call the fruit

brocab:
How hypocritical does this sound-I will still continuing praying to Jesus, but I will still continue to ask Mary to pray for me.
Have you some kind of a metal disorder-both Jesus and Mary can't be seen in person-and yet Jesus seems to be so far away-while Mary is standing at your door.
This is so funny?

brocab:
If you are asking Mary to pray for you-then in the correct term-you are actually praying to Mary-asking her to pray for you.

brocab:
Well Elizabeth carried someone else important-John the Baptize-he was needed too.

johnw74:
You emman, say I continually make the mistake of saying you are praying to mary in worship

I had posted to you at the time of your post just four times, only twice about the topic of praying to mary,
that's hardly consistently, and I never once said you pray to mary in worship


However, try and show that you are not a liar-a false accuser, and point out those continuos mistakes of mine,
saying that you are praying to mary in worship,
just one will do.

johnw74:
@bold, Try posting in truth,
I have talked about praying to mary, not about praying to mary in worship or in anything specific.

Your post above doesn't even address anything I said in my post, that your reply is to,
don't run away from the issue here, changing the subject and falsely accusing, just because you cannot reply,
be a man and reply to what is said.


you wrongly say I need a translator
I rightly say you need to use your brain and speak truth if possible.

where are these scriptures saying we are to pray to mary and others who have died,
I have posted scripture supporting my view, do the same, I'm not interested in your wrong doctrine or lies.

proof man.

emmanuelex1:
Do you mean important than Jesus? Then pray to John while I pray to Jesus.

emmanuelex1:
So when you ask your pastor to pray for you it means you are praying to your Pastor? May God deliver you from Ignorance, in Jesus name, Amen. I do not see reason to continue talking to you becos I believe you lack simple wisdom

emmanuelex1:
I do not understand what you are even mean, run from what, do I owe you? In as much as I choose to reply you ignorance I owe you no explanation. I hope you know that. I know who I serve and I do not think I serve God becos of you or anybody. Go meet a Priest to address your concerns, but please learn how to talk before you go.

emmanuelex1:
So when you ask your pastor to pray for you it means you are praying to your Pastor? May God deliver you from Ignorance, in Jesus name, Amen. I do not see reason to continue talking to you becos I believe you lack simple wisdom

emmanuelex1:
Enjoy your ignorance, I can see you just talk anyhow

emmanuelex1:
I do not understand what you are even mean, run from what, do I owe you? In as much as I choose to reply you ignorance I owe you no explanation. I hope you know that. I know who I serve and I do not think I serve God becos of you or anybody. Go meet a Priest to address your concerns, but please learn how to talk before you go.

johnw74:
emman the bad mouthed false accuser who calls truth ignorance

So you continue to run away from what is said and avoid answering,
that's what cowards do.
show scripture where we are to pray to mary, I'm not interisted in your own ideas of faith which just come out of your head, pick up the Bible and prove your points.

Christians pray only to God, but you wouldn't know about that bad mouth:

Mat_6:6  But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.



Is this fella @bold your god:
Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

brocab:
The reason you can't talk to me is, you can't find any evidence to prove any of your theories, because you know it yourself, you have a imagination-that everything you have said: isn't proving to be correct.
{2 Thessalonians 2:7-12}For the mystery of the lawlessness is already at work, only He will now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not believe the love of the truth, that they might be saved.And for this reason God will send them strong delusions, that they should believe the lie, that they all maybe condemned who did not believe in the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteous.
So you see, if you are refusing to believe in the truth, and correct yourself whom you worship, or ask for whom to pray for you-you will end up chasing after the lawless one.

brocab:
Well if I was to meet a priest-how do I present myself towards him?
Do I call him father? Do I bow down to him in respect?
How does one like you-respect such priest who are in authority?
If I was to quote the bible to him-would he understand it fully?
If I told him-the Word said: I am also a man of God and I am from the priesthood of God-would he respect me?
If I told him-the Word said: he must repent, would he agree with me?
If I told him-the Word said: bow only to God-instead of Mary would he listen to me?

johnw74:
emman the bad mouthed false accuser who calls truth ignorance

So you continue to run away from what is said and avoid answering,
that's what cowards do.
show scripture where we are to pray to mary, I'm not interisted in your own ideas of faith which just come out of your head, pick up the Bible and prove your points.

Christians pray only to God, but you wouldn't know about that bad mouth:

Mat_6:6  But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.



Is this fella @bold your god:
Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

brocab:
The reason you can't talk to me is, you can't find any evidence to prove any of your theories, because you know it yourself, you have a imagination-that everything you have said: isn't proving to be correct.
{2 Thessalonians 2:7-12}For the mystery of the lawlessness is already at work, only He will now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not believe the love of the truth, that they might be saved.And for this reason God will send them strong delusions, that they should believe the lie, that they all maybe condemned who did not believe in the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteous.
So you see, if you are refusing to believe in the truth, and correct yourself whom you worship, or ask for whom to pray for you-you will end up chasing after the lawless one.

johnw74:
emman the bad mouthed false accuser who calls truth ignorance

So you continue to run away from what is said and avoid answering,
that's what cowards do.
show scripture where we are to pray to mary, I'm not interisted in your own ideas of faith which just come out of your head, pick up the Bible and prove your points.

Christians pray only to God, but you wouldn't know about that bad mouth:

Mat_6:6  But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.



emman is this fella @bold your god:
Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

emmanuelex1:
Please define truth

johnw74:
emman the bad mouthed false accuser who calls truth ignorance

So you continue to run away from what is said and avoid answering,
that's what cowards do.
show scripture where we are to pray to mary, I'm not interisted in your own ideas of faith which just come out of your head, pick up the Bible and prove your points.

Christians pray only to God, but you wouldn't know about that bad mouth:

Mat_6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.



emman is this fella @bold your god:
Rev_12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

emmanuelex1:
You call me accuser and reference the Bible, please just allow God to be the Judge, he our heart better.

emmanuelex1:
Even if I quote some verses in the scripture to support my claims like I did to a member of anti catholic crusader agents like you, I only discovered that it produced more argument, If you think you know the bible so well go and meet a Catholic priest and seek your answers instead of calling people cowards on line.

johnw74:
@blue, What a pathetic excuse for not posting Bible verses
@blue bold, I'm anti false beliefs-anti lies, whether they be from rc or false jw or whoever,
but u the false accuser is still at it

@bold black, Those who run away from a topic, such as "showing bible verses for praying to mary" and reply with false accusations-lies, are indeed cowards.