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Re: Mantras by swegiedon(m): 1:39pm On Jul 24, 2017
I am very much interested in magick. so dear sarassin i will keep checking to see if you've updated
Re: Mantras by flexshop(m): 2:06pm On Jul 24, 2017
Sarassin:


Sure, I can teach you wealth magick, have you practised before?

I'm a neophyte...

Started Rosicrucian studies......

How I like it, simple and straight to the point...
If it involves conjuring any external force, ten you teach me protection magick first
Re: Mantras by Nobody: 10:17pm On Jul 24, 2017
flexshop:


I'm a neophyte...

Started Rosicrucian studies......

How I like it, simple and straight to the point...
If it involves conjuring any external force, ten you teach me protection magick first

If you’ve not practised before then it becomes extremely difficult. You have to learn to cast a circle of protection, a triangle for containment, a vessel to "see", i.e a black mirror then in turn you have to learn how to raise power and since the most efficient form of wealth ritual is through invocation, either Planetary or Goetia then of course, that too. Then supposing, just supposing you were able to somehow sort your way through all of the above, then there’s the small matter of actually conversing in trance with the entity you have raised by declaring your intention, striking a bargain and then doing a successful banishing.

If you will heed my advice, you will get a practitioner to do it on your behalf.
Re: Mantras by flexshop(m): 11:18pm On Jul 24, 2017
Sarassin:


If you’ve not practised before then it becomes extremely difficult. You have to learn to cast a circle of protection, a triangle for containment, a vessel to "see", i.e a black mirror then in turn you have to learn how to raise power and since the most efficient form of wealth ritual is through invocation, either Planetary or Goetia then of course, that too. Then supposing, just supposing you were able to somehow sort your way through all of the above, then there’s the small matter of actually conversing in trance with the entity you have raised by declaring your intention, striking a bargain and then doing a successful banishing.

If you will heed my advice, you will get a practitioner to do it on your behalf.


That is why nairaland is blessed with the best practitioner
Sri Sarassin himself

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Re: Mantras by Khonifer: 1:02am On Jul 25, 2017
Sarassin:


Hello Khonifer I hope you found some of my posts interesting. Actually I would not describe myself as a wizard, a wizard being a specific type of practitioner. I would characterise myself more as a Mystic. Sure, there have been on occasion negative impacts, particularly as a family person I find that I often have to spend inordinate amounts of time in seclusion and that can be difficult, but as an “old school” mystic we were taught that the most successful mystic practitioners live amongst others virtually unrecognised, never seeking nor drawing attention, helping others and subtly imposing one’s will on their environment in a positive manner.

I practise Tantra and mind-blowing-sex is a big part of that, and yes I do love to drive, I have my trusty TVR for the long drives of solitude and the family wheels, so, no I am not an ascetic.

Most Sanskrit mantras are to be recited at least 108 times, or in multiples thereof. Which one are you interested in?


The Namaha series. I've always wanted to open my "inner vision", but I'm always too scared to try anything.

Yea. Even just chanting mantras. To be honest, spiritual things scare me. ( I am a big baby cheesy) One of my fears was that I'd have to let go of my physical attachments, that I would not be able to enjoy life itself. You know, as a normal person. That somehow, being more knowledgeable in the spirit than most people would cause me to crave seclusion and probably go mad and commit suicide.

But since you've cleared that out, another thing I'm scared of is demons. Most of my knowledge is from books I've read, and of course horror movies cheesy, and it seems once a you open yourself to anything spiritual, there is always a chance of unwanted spirits slowly possessing you. Its seems a little bit silly, but this is something that has seriously been holding me back.

I don't even pray (I'm a christian, or at least I'm trying to be) because I'm too scared to. Most of the time I just rush the Lords Prayer and quickly open my eyes.

Is there a way to overcome fear? Permanently?
Re: Mantras by Nobody: 2:23pm On Jul 25, 2017
Khonifer:


The Namaha series. I've always wanted to open my "inner vision", but I'm always too scared to try anything.

Yea. Even just chanting mantras. To be honest, spiritual things scare me. ( I am a big baby cheesy) One of my fears was that I'd have to let go of my physical attachments, that I would not be able to enjoy life itself. You know, as a normal person. That somehow, being more knowledgeable in the spirit than most people would cause me to crave seclusion and probably go mad and commit suicide.

But since you've cleared that out, another thing I'm scared of is demons. Most of my knowledge is from books I've read, and of course horror movies cheesy, and it seems once a you open yourself to anything spiritual, there is always a chance of unwanted spirits slowly possessing you. Its seems a little bit silly, but this is something that has seriously been holding me back.

I don't even pray (I'm a christian, or at least I'm trying to be) because I'm too scared to. Most of the time I just rush the Lords Prayer and quickly open my eyes.

Is there a way to overcome fear? Permanently?

The only thing to fear is fear itself, it is the limiting factor of aspiration. It doesn’t help that religious conditioning is fear based also. In reality there is very little chance that one becomes unwittingly possessed by an entity, demon or what have you simply as a result of a spiritual quest. The entities that we so often refer to really have far more pressing things to do than seeking the unwary soul. This is not to say that there aren’t those who have dabbled in dilettantish manner with darker elements and paid the price, but my point is that the quest for spiritual enlightenment is not synonymous with demonology, far from it.

A very good way for you to overcome your fear is to learn the simple invocation of Archangel Michael, he offers protective armour, he builds integrity, courage, strength and provides clarity to all who call on him in sincerity. He will remove fear and trepidation from the core of your being, All the best.

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Re: Mantras by Nobody: 4:45pm On Jul 25, 2017
Sarassin:


The only thing to fear is fear itself, it is the limiting factor of aspiration. It doesn’t help that religious conditioning is fear based also. In reality there is very little chance that one becomes unwittingly possessed by an entity, demon or what have you simply as a result of a spiritual quest. The entities that we so often refer to really have far more pressing things to do than seeking the unwary soul. This is not to say that there aren’t those who have dabbled in dilettantish manner with darker elements and paid the price, but my point is that the quest for spiritual enlightenment is not synonymous with demonology, far from it.

A very good way for you to overcome your fear is to learn the simple invocation of Archangel Michael, he offers protective armour, he builds integrity, courage, strength and provides clarity to all who call on him in sincerity. He will remove fear and trepidation from the core of your being, All the best.

Tell me something about myself? You have spiritual power and I want my own spirit too.
Re: Mantras by HoraCanada(m): 6:03pm On Jul 25, 2017
Sarassin, pls how do I invoke the protection of Archangel Micheal?
Re: Mantras by AlvanT(m): 10:57am On Jul 26, 2017
Sarassin:


The only thing to fear is fear itself, it is the limiting factor of aspiration. It doesn’t help that religious conditioning is fear based also. In reality there is very little chance that one becomes unwittingly possessed by an entity, demon or what have you simply as a result of a spiritual quest. The entities that we so often refer to really have far more pressing things to do than seeking the unwary soul. This is not to say that there aren’t those who have dabbled in dilettantish manner with darker elements and paid the price, but my point is that the quest for spiritual enlightenment is not synonymous with demonology, far from it.

A very good way for you to overcome your fear is to learn the simple invocation of Archangel Michael, he offers protective armour, he builds integrity, courage, strength and provides clarity to all who call on him in sincerity. He will remove fear and trepidation from the core of your being, All the best.

How do you invoke him? a spell,sigil or mantra? also I've be chanting the mantra "OM NAMAHA SHIVAYA" as you gave me,it feels good.So I checked it on Youtube and it was "OM NAMAH SHIVAYA".Just want to be sure I'm getting it right,and can one chant mantras in his mind without actually speaking the words out? Thank you.
Re: Mantras by Nobody: 3:34pm On Aug 04, 2017
AlvanT:
How do you invoke him? a spell,sigil or mantra? also I've be chanting the mantra "OM NAMAHA SHIVAYA" as you gave me,it feels good.So I checked it on Youtube and it was "OM NAMAH SHIVAYA".Just want to be sure I'm getting it right,and can one chant mantras in his mind without actually speaking the words out? Thank you.

Hi there, apologies it's taken a bit to get back to you. There's a specific invocation for the Archangel Michael, I have to dig it up and send to you. Concerning the Mantra you are good to go. There is a slight difference with what you may find on youtube, I prefer the version I put down because it allows one to vibrate the tones which is quite essential.
Re: Mantras by Nobody: 4:15pm On Aug 04, 2017
HoraCanada:
Sarassin, pls how do I invoke the protection of Archangel Micheal?

Here is the invocation prayer to Archangel Michael. Invoke him on a Friday with a Red Candle if you can.

In English;

Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection against the malice and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray; and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly host, by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all evil spirits who wander through the world for the ruin of souls. Amen.

In the more powerful Latin;

Sáncte Míchael Archángele, defénde nos in proélio, cóntra nequítiam et insídias diáboli ésto præsídium. Ímperet ílli Déus, súpplices deprecámur: tuque, prínceps milítiæ cæléstis, Sátanam aliósque spíritus malígnos, qui ad perditiónem animárum pervagántur in múndo, divína virtúte, in inférnum detrúde. Ámen

cc: AlvanT

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Re: Mantras by Nobody: 4:16pm On Aug 04, 2017
flexshop:


That is why nairaland is blessed with the best practitioner
Sri Sarassin himself

"Sri",? well thank you sir.

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Re: Mantras by MiddleDimension: 6:20pm On Aug 04, 2017
Sarassin:


Here is the invocation prayer to Archangel Michael. Invoke him on a Friday with a Red Candle if you can.

In English;

Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection against the malice and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray; and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly host, by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all evil spirits who wander through the world for the ruin of souls. Amen.

In the more powerful Latin;

Sáncte Míchael Archángele, defénde nos in proélio, cóntra nequítiam et insídias diáboli ésto præsídium. Ímperet ílli Déus, súpplices deprecámur: tuque, prínceps milítiæ cæléstis, Sátanam aliósque spíritus malígnos, qui ad perditiónem animárum pervagántur in múndo, divína virtúte, in inférnum detrúde. Ámen

cc: AlvanT

hey, this is christian! How can christianity be yoked with all the tings you've been saying here?

What has christianity got to do with geometric shapes?

Answers pls.

I am an atheist, but i like to learn.
Re: Mantras by MiddleDimension: 6:40pm On Aug 04, 2017
To all of you who do mysticism, i want to ask what you mean when you say you are in a state of bliss? My understanding of the word "bliss", is a state of absolute happiness, joy and peace. So how on earth can the chanting of some words, which are actually frustrating to chant that many times, result in a 'state of bliss'? I think one stands a better chance to reach that state of bliss, if at all any kind of bliss can be reached from anything of that sort, if he has to put up with a notoriously slow internet connection of 2bytes/sec!
Re: Mantras by MiddleDimension: 6:53pm On Aug 04, 2017
also can the christian speaking/praying in tongues be called a mantra too?

Can the so called bliss be achieved from speaking/praying in tongues?

In one of his videos, Oyakhilome was saying something about him sitting down and speaking in tongues, and also experience some kind of joy...i really cannot remember anymore, exactly how he put it. While saying it in that video, he was preaching at LCC; so he took a chair and sat on it. It's really been a long time i watched it and cannot remember anymore.

Also, does this "energy centre" also the same as the spirit of man? When they speak in tongues, christians claim that they are only stiring up their spirit so that they can become open to the holyghost so as to recieve revelations. So can we now say that mystical sounds like "AUM" etc, are to mystics as speaking in tongues is to christians, since they both perform the same or similar functions?
Re: Mantras by Nobody: 9:25am On Aug 05, 2017
MiddleDimension:


hey, this is christian! How can christianity be yoked with all the tings you've been saying here?

What has christianity got to do with geometric shapes?

Answers pls.

I am an atheist, but i like to learn.

It really doesn't matter whether one is Muslim, Christian, Atheist or Buddhist. The Archangel Michael is universal, this invocation can be used by any and all regardless of religion. You can in fact pray to Archangel Michael independent of any religious framework, but in my view results are best obtained in the context of the Christian invocation.

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Re: Mantras by netzro(m): 10:57am On Aug 05, 2017
AlvanT:
Can one chant mantras in his mind without actually speaking the words out? Thank you.

Sarassin:



Sri Sarassin, you missed this question
Re: Mantras by MiddleDimension: 7:09pm On Aug 05, 2017
MiddleDimension:
also can the christian speaking/praying in tongues be called a mantra too?

Can the so called bliss be achieved from speaking/praying in tongues?

In one of his videos, Oyakhilome was saying something about him sitting down and speaking in tongues, and also experience some kind of joy...i really cannot remember anymore, exactly how he put it. While saying it in that video, he was preaching at LCC; so he took a chair and sat on it. It's really been a long time i watched it and cannot remember anymore.

Also, does this "energy centre" also the same as the spirit of man? When they speak in tongues, christians claim that they are only stiring up their spirit so that they can become open to the holyghost so as to recieve revelations. So can we now say that mystical sounds like "AUM" etc, are to mystics as speaking in tongues is to christians, since they both perform the same or similar functions?

@sarassin what about this question? i would like you to respond to this. and the other post
Re: Mantras by Ken4Christ: 2:11am On Aug 06, 2017
When men refuse to believe the truth, you will be made to believe a lie instead. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. There is no amount of philosophical teachings on mantras or whatsoever that can give the kind of peace and joy that comes with knowing Jesus.

Please, Jesus is all you need. Don't entangle yourself with religion that is devoid of spiritual virtues.
Re: Mantras by Nobody: 6:13pm On Aug 06, 2017
netzro:




Sri Sarassin, you missed this question

Sri...hehehe.., Yes, one can actually chant a Mantra directly in one's mind. The proper way to chant is to begin by chanting out loud over the period of the first few days, then to successively lower the sound level of the chant until it eventually becomes silent and one then chants soto-voce i.e under your breath, and then mentally.

The idea is that the mantra becomes such an integral part of you that it wells up in your mind of its own accord.
Re: Mantras by MiddleDimension: 6:47pm On Aug 06, 2017
Ken4Christ:
When men refuse to believe the truth, you will be made to believe a lie instead. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. There is no amount of philosophical teachings on mantras or whatsoever that can give the kind of peace and joy that comes with knowing Jesus.

Please, Jesus is all you need. Don't entangle yourself with religion that is devoid of spiritual virtues.


you've been hearing people here talk about peace, joy and happiness, which are FRUITS of the holy spirit, according to your bible; yet you come here warning against religions (despite the fact the mystics here have said it that this has noting to do with religion) that in your opinion lack 'spiritual' virtues.

I as an athesit, find conversations with members of esoteric organizations more fruitful than conversations with 'believers'.

Sometimes, i do think that 'born agains' (and that phrase is begining to have an evil and negative connotation with me) are the worst things ever to happen to the world.
Re: Mantras by Nobody: 6:50pm On Aug 06, 2017
MiddleDimension:


@sarassin what about this question? i would like you to respond to this. and the other post
MiddleDimension:
also can the christian speaking/praying in tongues be called a mantra too?

Can the so called bliss be achieved from speaking/praying in tongues?

In one of his videos, Oyakhilome was saying something about him sitting down and speaking in tongues, and also experience some kind of joy...i really cannot remember anymore, exactly how he put it. While saying it in that video, he was preaching at LCC; so he took a chair and sat on it. It's really been a long time i watched it and cannot remember anymore.

I don’t presume to speak for Christians or their practice, however, but yes, one can attain a state of bliss through the medium of speaking in tongues but what really matters is what they do with this bliss when they stand at the threshold. I find the charismatic practice of speaking in tongues very strange. In Christian magical tradition we know from the writings of the likes of Ignatius of Loyola or even the Liber Sacratus, that Christian mystics have for very long recognised the effects of communicating directly with the subconscious and that in order to do so, the conscious mind had to be by-passed. This is why you see practitioners of various other religions whip themselves into an orgiastic frenzy, for instance, you must have heard of the whirling dervishes, as well as the Sufi’s who dance themselves into a trance. Ultimately at the very core, it is the same principle but ineffectively rendered…in my opinion.

MiddleDimension:
Also, does this "energy centre" also the same as the spirit of man? When they speak in tongues, christians claim that they are only stiring up their spirit so that they can become open to the holyghost so as to recieve revelations. So can we now say that mystical sounds like "AUM" etc, are to mystics as speaking in tongues is to christians, since they both perform the same or similar functions?

This is why I wrote above that the process of speaking in tongues is largely flawed, again, I should make clear that it is my own opinion. Mystical sounds are precisely that, mystical, they are primordial sounds that take on life forms of their own and reflect one’s desires. Reciting mystical sounds or chants are causative in nature. Not so for glossolalia, at best if performed properly it has the propensity to clear the mind, but no more. The most successful Christian mystics are those who have learnt to use that space. And even though Christians refer to the Holy Ghost as an external entity, for me, it is in fact internal as you have alluded. Both the Mystic and Christian seek the same thing, the process is all that is different.

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Re: Mantras by MiddleDimension: 7:06pm On Aug 06, 2017
Sarassin:



I don’t presume to speak for Christians or their practice, however, but yes, one can attain a state of bliss through the medium of speaking in tongues but what really matters is what they do with this bliss when they stand at the threshold. I find the charismatic practice of speaking in tongues very strange. In Christian magical tradition we know from the writings of the likes of Ignatius of Loyola or even the Liber Sacratus, that Christian mystics have for very long recognised the effects of communicating directly with the subconscious and that in order to do so, the conscious mind had to be by-passed. This is why you see practitioners of various other religions whip themselves into an orgiastic frenzy, for instance, you must have heard of the whirling dervishes, as well as the Sufi’s who dance themselves into a trance. Ultimately at the very core, it is the same principle but ineffectively rendered…in my opinion.



This is why I wrote above that the process of speaking in tongues is largely flawed, again, I should make clear that it is my own opinion. Mystical sounds are precisely that, mystical, they are primordial sounds that take on life forms of their own and reflect one’s desires. Reciting mystical sounds or chants are causative in nature. Not so for glossolalia, at best if performed properly it has the propensity to clear the mind, but no more. The most successful Christian mystics are those who have learnt to use that space. And even though Christians refer to the Holy Ghost as an external entity, for me, it is in fact internal as you have alluded. Both the Mystic and Christian seek the same thing, the process is all that is different.

i was about to write a post to air my frustration at what i was seeing as a deliberate attempt on your part to by-pass some of my questions because they are a bit christian and could be carrying fire that someone of 'demonic' background wouldn't dare to attempt so as not to get 'burnt'. Lol cheesy. I was about to do so when i saw your mention.

Anyway, like i said in one of my post, discussions with the likes of you, is better than discussions with 'believers' if at all we can have any sort of discussion.

Your reply is a very beautiful one.

And yes, i have heard of the wirling dervishes and the sufis. I wonder why a lot of people of mainstream religion are skeptical and afraid of mystics! They seem to me to be cool people.
Re: Mantras by Nobody: 7:54pm On Aug 06, 2017
MiddleDimension:


i was about to write a post to air my frustration at what i was seeing as a deliberate attempt on your part to by-pass some of my questions because they are a bit christian and could be carrying fire that someone of 'demonic' background wouldn't dare to attempt so as not to get 'burnt'. Lol cheesy. I was about to do so when i saw your mention.

Anyway, like i said in one of my post, discussions with the likes of you, is better than discussions with 'believers' if at all we can have any sort of discussion.

Your reply is a very beautiful one.

And yes, i have heard of the wirling dervishes and the sufis. I wonder why a lot of people of mainstream religion are skeptical and afraid of mystics! They seem to me to be cool people.

Thank you, I am quite happy to have discussions, occasionally it might take a bit longer to get a reply out but to quote a friend of mine on here, I don't like to give wishy-washy replies. Once again thanks for your kind words.

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Re: Mantras by tjmc: 3:32pm On Nov 05, 2017
Sarassin pls come continue your thread.
I would appreciate if u can give a mantra for someone seeking g for a direction or spiritual path to follow.
Secondly I would need another for business growth
Thanks for your continuous enlightenment
Re: Mantras by Nobody: 4:25pm On Nov 05, 2017
tjmc:
Sarassin pls come continue your thread.
I would appreciate if u can give a mantra for someone seeking g for a direction or spiritual path to follow. Secondly I would need another for business growth
Thanks for your continuous enlightenment

I hear you sir, what is your religious background presently?

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Re: Mantras by Dcholeric: 4:48pm On Nov 05, 2017
Sarassin:


I hear you sir, What is your religious background presently?
I believe I need what tj.mc asked for.
right now i am open to what works spiritually (though I was brought in a christian home) . I practice meditation now but I have once only seem to get to a deep state where it seems I was passing through a tunnel .
I need to know what one can achieve positively in meditation and how to achieve it.

and I have heard of meditation OBE or should I say Meditative AP. can you please throw light on this ....thank you .
Re: Mantras by tjmc: 9:11am On Nov 06, 2017
Christian sir

Sarassin:


I hear you sir, What is your religious background presently?
Re: Mantras by Nobody: 5:19pm On Nov 06, 2017
tjmc:
Christian sir

I am giving you two mantras as requested. The first one will bring you the change that you seek. Recite it with humility exactly as you see it there in multiples of 108 times.

AND ALL THAT WAS IN HER FELT A COMING CHANGE OBEDIENT TO TIME’S CALL”

The second one will bring you what is yours in the Divine scheme of things, You should recite this over a glass of plain water and drink it daily as you commence your business. You should re-double your efforts too and leave it in the hands of the Divine God. We cannot ask for more.

"OPEN DIVINE MARVELS"

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Re: Mantras by Nobody: 5:27pm On Nov 06, 2017
Dcholeric:

I believe I need what tj.mc asked for.
right now i am open to what works spiritually (though I was brought in a christian home) . I practice meditation now but I have once only seem to get to a deep state where it seems I was passing through a tunnel .
I need to know what one can achieve positively in meditation and how to achieve it.

and I have heard of meditation OBE or should I say Meditative AP. can you please throw light on this ....thank you .

I have updated the MP thread with a little information on meditation and I will be expanding on it as we go along. You need to focus your meditation on your inner self. I will give you a mantra in a day or so that will help.

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Re: Mantras by Dcholeric: 6:47pm On Nov 06, 2017
Sarassin:


I have updated the MP thread with a little information on meditation and I will be expanding on it as we go along. You need to focus your meditation on your inner self. I will give you a mantra in a day or so that will help.
I am grateful for your kindness....

I await your promise (about the mantra).

And finally thanks for the good job. referring to the update on your MP thread I look forward to the expand you talk of.

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Re: Mantras by iamnlia(m): 7:21pm On Nov 06, 2017
Sarassin:


I am giving you two mantras as requested. The first one will bring you the change that you seek. Recite it with humility exactly as you see it there in multiples of 108 times.

AND ALL THAT WAS IN HER FELT A COMING CHANGE OBEDIENT TO TIME’S CALL”

The second one will bring you what is yours in the Divine scheme of things, You should recite this over a glass of plain water and drink it daily as you commence your business. You should re-double your efforts too and leave it in the hands of the Divine God. We cannot ask for more.

"OPEN DIVINE MARVELS"
Should I change to first mantras person from feminine to masculine?
She to he?

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