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| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ValentineMary(m): 12:21am On Jul 25, 2017 |
ScienceWatch:Emotions were built in by our evolutionary progression to better our survival and sharpen our consciousness. As you would know, not only humans have emotions. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ScienceWatch: 10:57am On Jul 25, 2017 |
ValentineMary:Could it be that scientist are deceiving us when they claim that the most abundant molecules found in the Stars are the same molecules that passively formed life on earth. They are still trying to get to the nearest Star. In spite of scientists dubious claims there is zero verifiable evidence of life on these Stars. A new challenge is now baffling scientists about their established theories of how life began. Recently, Many scientists are known to study the transparent and abundance of scientifically verifiable evidence of the existence of an intelligent loving creator -GOD. This evidence is flowing like a mighty river out of the SCOAN CHURCH. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by Martinez19(op): 11:19am On Jul 25, 2017 |
ScienceWatch:How can you believe a member of TB Joshua's church. That charlatan. His false prophecies are enough to show you that he is a fake. Smh. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by SmartyPants(m): 11:28am On Jul 25, 2017 |
Of course some things happen in life that are not attributable to an act of God. But there are certain things that are beyond coincidence. In the late 90's i was a pre-teen living in Ibadan. One night, my parents gathered us around and asked us to pray and ask God for any one thing that we wanted. I asked for a pair of roller blades. Now this is the 90's we are talking about, in Ibadan. Roller blades were not exactly found everywhere you looked. I forgot about the prayer, but the next day a certain family that were our friends came over and gave us some roller blades. Was that a coincidence? Or an answered prayer? No one has given me any roller blades since then o. ![]() |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by Martinez19(op): 12:04pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
SmartyPants:It's God's will to grant someone a roller blade but not to heal cancer. If you didn't have that roller blades and you told someone that God didn't answer your prayer, they will tell you it's God's will or any jargons to defend God. ![]() |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by SmartyPants(m): 12:07pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
Martinez19:I don't understand what point you are trying to make... if i didn't get the blades, yes one very possible answer is that it was not God's will. Are you of the opinion that we believe God answers all prayers? Or that we know all things about God? |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ScienceWatch: 12:20pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
Martinez19:The fact that you are a CHEAP unregistered non-fee paying Atheist proves that you are a charlatan. How can anybody believe what you say ? Your prophet of Atheism is waiting on you to pay him the yearly fee of only 14.5million Niara to have one meal with him. In contrast TB JOSHUA and his followers has given millions FREE meals, FREE life-time full scholarship educational bursaries where thousands have testified to his love for humanity. I would end up insane if I am unable to agree with the transparent scientifically verifiable evidence flowing like a mighty river out of the SCOAN. You are trapped in your proud LOGICAL cage that express itself in delusions of grandeur while millions are suffering. Your LOGICAL prophet of modern Atheism Richard Dawkins and his large gang of selfish non-fee paying members has failed miserably to destroy or even make a tiny dent in the explosive growth of the SCOAN CHURCH NIGERIA. Be blessed SCOAN ISRAEL !! Even the Jewish leaders and Muslims puplically thank SCOAN for providing EMMANUEL TV FREE OF CHARGE. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by Martinez19(op): 12:35pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
SmartyPants:if God answers prayers all his faithful followers, at least, would be cure of cancer, hiv and be restored if they are amputees. There is no justification for God refusing to heal his faithful followers except if we should kid ourselves. Given that God does not answer prayers, coincidence is the suspect in you receiving your roller blades. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by SmartyPants(m): 12:41pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
Martinez19:Are you confused? 1. We have established that God does not grant all prayer requests. 2. We have no way of knowing why He does not grant certain requests Since there is no requirement that God must answer all prayers, it is expected that some requests will not be fulfilled, and therefore there is no rule of thumb. Thus, what you attempt to call coincidence, could really be selective answer to prayer, which God, being the Almighty, is well justified to do. I further put it to you, that if we do not know all, but God does know all, certain things which may look bad at first may actually be for the better. Dying of cancer may seem bad on the surface for example, but spending an eternity in heaven is incomparably greater. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ScienceWatch: 12:49pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
Martinez19:Martinez19 will testify in public that it was the will of the accidental BIG BANG that humans get three mental faculties to use. But that ATHEISTS only get to use the lowest mental faculty called LOGIC as is evident here. This mighty God can not be understood using the lowest mental faculty. That's why the logically educated battle to raise to the challenge. Atheism is the best religion for the mentally slothful the selfish and chronically bitter believer. Examine their behaviour when confronted with giving kindness, charity, God's love, healing etc. They respond with bitterness disguised as superior LOGIC. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ValentineMary(m): 1:19pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
ScienceWatch:many Okay, dude things u said here are not true. First of all we can know the elements in the sun by using a spectrophotometer. Here is how it works. Every substance when heated emits a unique light. The normal human eyes might not be able to tell the difference using we have a limited wavelength we can observe and can't different similar wavelength. But a spectrophotometer can. I have never heard any scientist claim that lives can be found on stars. That scientist would immediately be stripped of his/her degree(s). The study of how life began is the field of pre biotic chemistry and it's not as recent as u claim it to be. We are still baffling with so many things in science. eg why nutrinos don't interat with matter, why a fraction of matter greater than anti matter is made in collision, why black holes emit hawkins radiation, etc. Should we then say because we don't know the answer, we should all subscribe to a deity and occupy our ignorance with a mythical tale just to make us feel good? |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ScienceWatch: 1:43pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
ValentineMary:You stated that the essence of all life came from the Stars. I am saying that they have not been to the nearest Star to prove their deluded theories. For too long science has deceived the masses into believing that there is no creator GOD. The consequences resulted in the dramatic increase of global INSANITY. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ValentineMary(m): 1:49pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
ScienceWatch:Okay, how do I know that our essential elements came from the star? look at the most abundant element in biological organisms, it's hydrogen which is also the most abundant in the stars. Carbon, iron, oxygen, can only be made in the star due to it's intense energy level. And in a nebula (which is gotten from a pre existing star) which is where our earth and stars came from, these atoms are released after a super nova. The basic point is that the atoms used in the creation of biological organisms are seen made in the stars which is the only place that has the ability to make such atoms. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by Martinez19(op): 2:16pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
ScienceWatch:Because I ruled out the religious gods doesn't mean that I rule out the possibility of a God. Don't make the mistake of assuming that irreligious folks believe in chances. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ScienceWatch: 2:19pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
ValentineMary:Scientist have made serious blunders when they accepted Psychiatry as a science. Today after as hundred years of mass destruction of human lives Psychiatrists admit that they have not even healed one patient. The emerging evidence reveal that so-called psychiatric/psychological problems are actually spiritual problems. That is more evidence that scientists create huge money making opportunity for themselves at the expense of human suffering. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ScienceWatch: 2:20pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
Martinez19:oh, thanks. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by Martinez19(op): 2:22pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
ScienceWatch:Because I ruled out the religious gods doesn't mean that I rule out the possibility of a God. Don't make the mistake of assuming that irreligious folks believe in chances that caused creation. Remember that because I ruled out the possibility of a God. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ScienceWatch: 3:01pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
ValentineMary:So the Stars are the only place that was given tha ability to make the necessary atoms . Could this be just coincidental ? Or does it somehow point to evolutions incredible intelligence ? |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ScienceWatch: 3:07pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
Martinez19:Is the the number of Atheists that play the National Lottery enough PROOF for you that Atheists BELIEVE in chance ? Or would you prefer more subtle PROOF ? |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by Martinez19(op): 3:09pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
ScienceWatch: What are you saying for goodness sake? |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ScienceWatch: 3:17pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
Martinez19:You said that Atheists don't believe in CHANCE. I said that the large numbers of Atheists that play the National Lottery is conclusive proof that they do believe in CHANCE. Why can't you understand that. That evidence is the result of LOGIC. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by Martinez19(op): 3:25pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
ScienceWatch:I modified that post, it was incomplete. What I meant was creation by chance. Have you mentioned Richard Dawkins today? |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ScienceWatch: 3:29pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
Martinez19:hmmm !! After using LOGIC briefly you suddenly admit that there is a God, but prefer to rule out any God that religions have tried and tested for thousands of years. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ScienceWatch: 3:44pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
Martinez19:Thanks for encouraging me to voice my much sort after opinions on the failed modern day prophet of Atheism Richard Dawkins. He certainly has done a lot for humanity !! His most valuable contribution ; he gave the world a lot to TALK about. He reminds me of the fake pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye. All this talk talk, while the SCOAN are the DOERS. TALK IS CHEAP! People cry out for practicable solutions. EMMANUEL TV is proof to the whole world that the SCOAN and it's followers are DOERS not mere TALKERS like their vicious critics, Atheists, Bronchitis Oaroloye and his handlers the PENTECOSTAL PNF. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by oaroloye(m): 6:12pm On Jul 25, 2017 |
SHALOM! NAGUALISM teaches that "coincidences" are Spiritual Powers attempting to engage our attention, with the hopes that we will notice, and facilitate communication. https://www.nairaland.com/3897929/satanic-teaching-nagualism-reaffirmations-world [See: JOURNEY TO IXTLAN, by Carlos Castaneda.] https://archive.org/details/CarlosCastanedaAllBooksInOne THE CELESTINE PROPHECY teaches something similar- it is called THE FIRST INSIGHT. [See: THE CELESTINE PROPHECY, by James Redfield.] https://archive.org/details/pdfy-ykNBT42I1yJzOCsj |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ScienceWatch: 7:40am On Jul 26, 2017 |
Martinez19:I am so sorry Sir, I did not notice that you made a modification. I am waiting to receive your forgiveness. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ScienceWatch: 8:01am On Jul 26, 2017 |
oaroloye:pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye your cruel attempt to mix Satanic NAGUALISM and FICTIONAL CELESTINE PROPHECY, criminal SCIENTOLOGY and FICTIONAL Lopsam Rampa with the HOLY SCRIPTURE has generated the fictional fantasy where victims of rape are to blame for their RAPE. After you mixed your Satanic CHARMS you had a coincidental revelation while you were under hallucinogenic drug induced astral-projection. Pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye, your coincidental revelation that RAPE IS NOT A SIN is historic and ground breaking. You have gone further than the Authors of your favourite fictional novels on NAGUALISM and FICTIONAL CELESTINE PROPHECY.. Have mercy on the youth pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye. Have mercy !! |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ScienceWatch: 9:04am On Jul 26, 2017 |
oaroloye:The founder of FICTIONAL NAGUALISM, Carlos Castaneda was a real life Sex-maniac but put himself as a character in all His novels as a fictional character that practise CELIBACY. He formed a dangerous Religious CULT called NAGUALISM. Pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye's beliefs that RAPE VICTIMS ARE TO BLAME FOR THEIR OWN RAPE was born out of FICTION. While he spews his bronchial flegm at the disciples of the mighty Jesus and a truly humble servant of Jesus, the SCOAN CHURCH is producing greatness and paying more 27 million Niara for just one students degree. Millions have been fed, thousands are given given full bursaries, the sick are healed, the blind can see, the deaf can hear, etc, etc. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ValentineMary(m): 4:07pm On Jul 27, 2017 |
ScienceWatch:Your question is not clear to me. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ValentineMary(m): 4:11pm On Jul 27, 2017 |
ScienceWatch:The bold text is very untrue. Pls desist from spreading such information. Psychiatrist have healed countless number of people. A source to your claim would be well appreciated. And pls psychological problems are not spiritual problems. They are problems involving our perception of reality thus our brain. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ScienceWatch: 4:57pm On Jul 27, 2017 |
ValentineMary:It points to the amazing ability of the Stars and the awesome intelligence of abstract Evolution. |
| Re: Utilisation Of Coincidence By Religious Folks. by ScienceWatch: 5:05pm On Jul 27, 2017 |
ValentineMary:You ask for a source, I don't want you to appear ill informed on matters of science, so I would encourage you to do your own research. Your inference suggest that I have fabricated all this. Please do an unbiased study on spiritual problems and symptoms. |
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