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Babacele:
what book did Abraham,the father of faith read, before he received the promise of God? Absolutely none. Has that God changed? not at all.
Did Moses read any scriptures before God chose him too?

Babacele:
it was Deuteronomy 7:1-2 and other verses where Humans murdered in the name of God.



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Deuteronomy, chapter 7
1: "When the LORD your God
brings you into the land which
you are entering to take
possession of it, and clears away
many nations before you, the
Hittites, the Gir'gashites, the
Amorites, the Canaanites, the
Per'izzites, the Hivites, and the
Jeb'usites, seven nations greater
and mightier than yourselves,
2: and when the LORD your God
gives them over to you, and you
defeat them; then you must utterly
destroy them; you shall make no
covenant with them, and show no
mercy to them.

Babacele:
what a fanatical contraction!

Babacele:
The Catholic doctrine of Trinity is the foundation of Christianity: you tamper with that, you destroy Christianity.


Don't be fanatical. In the Bible, God spoke and men spoke. In men's claims were errors ,biases and misrepresentations especially in the Old testament hence the need for the word of God to come in flesh in Jesus. God does not contradict Himself but men do or else how do you explain " an eye for an eye" and Christ doctrine of " turning the other cheek", and many Phariseessical practices claiming God ordained them?

brocab:
The Catholic priest of today were the Pharisees back then-both claiming they were ordain by God.
You are mistaken there are no errors found in the Word of God-God doesn't make mistakes, if the Catholic Church didn't change the scriptures twisting the Words around, in the first place-there wouldn't be any mistakes found.
Thank God He had Men and Women-who were willing to risk there life's for God's sake.
Men of God-stood fern, risking their own lives, hiding away from the Catholic Church, men of God had rewritten the scriptures, the true meanings of the Hebrew and the Greek languages, so we the people in every nation, will know all truth, God Himself exist.

johnw74:
That reminds me of this:



It seems rc's cannot stop lying and false accusing, taking after their god:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

blackbriar:
WOW..........SUPER WOW.......I CANT EVEN WHISTLE.....STILL SHAKING MY HEAD.....WOW.

Ubenedictus:
now all you need to do is show clearly that i ask lying have.

I repeat tyndale was killed in anglican england under the reign of king henry founder of anglicanism.

Feel free to prove me wrong.

italo:
You don't want to know why non-Catholics kneel and bow to their beds? Is bowing to a bed not idolatry?

Are you sure the Bible condemns repetitive prayers of Catholics?

Rev 4:8 Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying:

“‘Holy, holy, holy

is the Lord God Almighty,’

who was, and is, and is to come.”

These heavenly beings are obviously very Catholic then. They keep repeating the same prayer forever and ever.

Jesus is also Catholic. He prayed the the cup should pass over him using the same thing THREE times.

The Bible condemns all of us, right?

Ubenedictus:
now all you need to do is show clearly that i ask lying have.

I repeat tyndale was killed in anglican england under the reign of king henry founder of anglicanism.

Feel free to prove me wrong.

johnw74:
I wasn't talking about tyndale but about you,
your name calling-accusing, reminded me of u doing that before, and being wrong
it was u that was the liar-false accuser

so one who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones,
the pot calling the kettle black etc.

I will leave bro to straighten u out on tyndale.

italo:
Many words have no correlation with making sense. Think before you type. Not the other way round.

You don't understand anything. Read the post I was replying and my post again. If you still can't understand them, keep re-reading them day and night. You will eventually understand it in the world to come.

brocab:
Is the, WOW..........SUPER WOW.........I CANT EVEN WHISTLE ......STILL SHAKING MY HEAD....WOW, is this a sign for us to know you haven't the slightest idea where to run too?
This information is to far advanced for you to even touch the sides, you haven't enough knowledge to know the truth-you believe more about nothing-then you know about anything.
You only believe you are a Catholic-only because your Mama told you so, you haven't the slightest idea-which down road you are heading yourself into..

johnw74:
rcc say that Mary sits "on the right hand of the majesty on high"
that is no where said in the Holy Scriptures,
however the Bible shows that Jesus Christ sits "on the right hand of God"

Mat_22:44  The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Mar_16:19  So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Col_3:1  If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

Heb_1:3  Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Heb_8:1  Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

Heb_10:12  But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

Heb_12:2  Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

1Pe_3:22  Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

rcc pervert the truth of the Bible as do false jehovahs witnesses and many others.

brocab:
Yeh ok keep on asking Mary to pray for you-what good is that to you.
And I will keep on praying to Micky Mouse, and Donald Duck.

blackbriar:
wait am confused ,what do catholics claim,mary sits at the right hand of God the father or God the son( her son)?

blackbriar:
wait am confused ,what do catholics claim,mary sits at the right hand of God the father or God the son( her son)?

emmanuelex1:
Nil, John was trying to explain Jesus in the Bible, John is against Catholicism. Nevertheless I am a Catholic

According to Roman Catholicism: "Mary sits on the right hand of the majesty on high" (Pope Pius X, Ad Diem Illum Laetissimum, 14).

johnw74:
roman catholicism claim that Mary sits on the right hand of the majesty on high,
that is the Father






Nil u say emman, u say roman catholicism doesn't have Mary sitting on the right hand of the Majesty on high,
u keep saying lies, they come naturally to u

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

satan is the father of lies-liars

@bold, means: when the devil speaks a lie he is speaking naturally,
u take after him-your father

johnw74:
rcc say mary had no original sin,

which is said nowhere in God's written word,
however God's word says all have sinned:

Rom 3:23  For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Rom 5:12  Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Rom 3:9  What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

Gal 3:22  But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.


Rom 5:19  For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

johnw74:
some more for u on Mary, emman


Summary of Roman Catholic Teachings about Mary


Mary holds a very high position in the Roman Catholic Church, so much so that she is like a goddess. Even though Roman Catholics will not agree with the statement of goddess-like abilities, the fact remains that Mary is highly exalted.

According to Roman Catholicism, Mary is "the all-holy ever-virgin Mother of God" (Catechism of the Catholic Church, hereafter referred to as "CCC" 721), the "Queen over all things" (CCC 966), our "Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix" (CCC 969), who is "full of grace" (CCC 722), the "Mother of God and our mother" (CCC 2677), the "new Eve" (CCC 726), and the "seat of wisdom" (CCC 721). She had no original sin (CCC 508), and never committed sin (CCC 493). She is second only to her Son" (Vatican II, Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, par. 66) and sits "on the right hand of the majesty on high" (Pope Pius X, Ad Diem Illum Laetissimum, 14). In fact, "no man goeth to Christ but by His Mother" (Pope Leo 13th, Octobri Mense). It was Mary who "crushed the poisonous head of the most cruel serpent and brought salvation to the world" (Pope Pius IX, Ineffabilis Deus). It is she who "delivers our souls from death" (CCC 966), and "continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation" (CCC 969). "Mary, by her spiritual entering into the sacrifice of her divine son for men, made atonement for the sins of man," (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma4, Ott, page 213). Therefore, we can "entrust all our cares and petitions to her" (CCC 2677), "give ourselves over to her now" (CCC 2677), "pray to her" (CCC 2679), and have devotion to her (CCC 971). She was "taken up body and soul into the glory of heaven" (CCC 974). When speaking of the Church, "we can find no better way to conclude than by looking to Mary," (CCC 972). In her, the church is holy (CCC 867). "Mary is the Church's model of faith and charity" (CCC 967). Finally, in paradise the church gathers "around Jesus and Mary" (CCC 1053).
The Bible says,

"Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively applied to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that in us you might learn not to exceed what is written, in order that no one of you might become arrogant in behalf of one against the other." (1 Cor. 4:6).

Has the Roman Catholic Church exceeded the scope of scripture with its teaching about Mary? Absolutely, yes!

by Matt Slick
Summary of Roman Catholic Teachings about Mary

emmanuelex1:
Nil, John was trying to explain Jesus in the Bible, John is against Catholicism. Nevertheless I am a Catholic

emmanuelex1:
Nil, John was trying to explain Jesus in the Bible, John is against Catholicism. Nevertheless I am a Catholic

emmanuelex1:
I am sorry not to accept you idea. I will still continuing praying to Jesus but I will stil continue to ask a Mary to pray for me.

blackbriar:
i am still wow(ed) by the heights you go to wow me.....too advanced you say........am catholic only cos my mum said so.......WOW.

blackbriar:
Quoting Pope Pius IX in Ineffabilis Deus, Pius X reiterated that, "Jesus "sitteth on the right hand of the majesty on high" (Hebrews i. b.). Mary sitteth at the right hand of her Son - a refuge so secure and a help so trusty against all dangers that we have nothing to fear or to despair of under her guidance, her patronage, her protection. (Pius IX. in Bull Ineffabilis).

brocab:
Interesting? Do you really believe in this rubbish-Please explain, in scripture where Mary sits on the right hand of her son?
Now this NONSPIRITUAL rubbish is a "WOW WOW?

blackbriar:
Quoting Pope Pius IX in Ineffabilis Deus, Pius X reiterated that, "Jesus "sitteth on the right hand of the majesty on high" (Hebrews i. b.). Mary sitteth at the right hand of her Son - a refuge so secure and a help so trusty against all dangers that we have nothing to fear or to despair of under her guidance, her patronage, her protection. (Pius IX. in Bull Ineffabilis).".

Where did u get yours?

According to Roman Catholicism: "Mary sits on the right hand of the majesty on high" (Pope Pius X, Ad Diem Illum Laetissimum, 14).

blackbriar:
SIN is divided into two Original sin(sin of adam that condems all men born of a woman as sinners) and actual sin.
HAIL MARY FULL OF GRACE(THE GRACE FORM ORIGINAL SIN)......if mary had original sin that makes JESUS a sinner.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s2c1p7.htm

johnw74:
I quoted where I got it from, but apparently most rc's like to lie or don't read what is posted

show me from the Bible where Mary sitteth at the right hand of her Son" on the Fathers throne

Heb_1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;