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butterflylion:
You dey mind the insecure pity party throwing yet they don't care atheist?

Na dem care pass and na dem dey petty pass. See thread where he is just rambling on and on over what he brought upon himself or they brought upon themselves and he is now playing the blame game.

So who make I blame when I preach to an atheist and tell him God loves him. Who should I blame for that?

analice107:
Thanks for having my back always. She get here and shred them. She gives them bad dreams. lol.

Emmanystone:
stop crying and grow some balls, men don't cry. There's surgery today, go get some dead man's dick to build yourself confidence and stop crying because a woman has got more balls than you.

sirfee:
@Hopefullandlord,thanks for this post.I've always asked myself this same question though I'm a deist who doesn't give a flying fvck about any religious god or gods.


Ever since I became a deist few years ago,many of my friends and family now see me as a devil.I'm currently having issue at my work place because of my belief,most of my colleagues don't want to see me just because I'm a deist.Few weeks back,I was bullied at work because I said Christianity is a scam during an argument,a Christian colleague said I've sinned against the holy spirit because of that statement.


I'm from a Christian family,my dad is a Catholic while my mum is a Pentecostan.I was once a devotee,my question to the religious folks is this;why do you always impose your religion and belief on the non religious. Why do you see us as bastards,why can't you focus on your lives and religion,live and let's live.

CuteMadridista:
I only attack religious bull in real life if someone attempts to preach it to me, except Jehovah's witnesses who I simply tell that I'm a Jew or I'm excommunicated and they usually leave very fast

edicied:
Wow, so this is the tricks to get them running

CuteMadridista:
how dare you call Christianity a scam lol

anyways, notice how Christians were bothered by a deist calling their religion a scam but would pay less attention if it were a Muslim calling Christianity a scam, the irreligious are the common enemy to the religious

I only attack religious bull in real life if someone attempts to preach it to me, except Jehovah's witnesses who I simply tell that I'm a Jew or I'm excommunicated and they usually leave very fast

hopefulLandlord:
Has this question ever bothered you?

why is it that the average Christian likes you more when you were a Muslim than when you became an atheist/irreligious?

why is it that the average Muslim likes you more when you were a Christian than when you told them/they discovered you're an atheist?

why is it that the average Pagan likes you more when you were a Christian/Muslim than when you told them/they discovered you're an atheist?

this is one of the biggest head scratching things you'll notice when your atheism is discovered/you come out of the "closet"

let's try to put this thing in logical form, let's say there's this lady neighbour of yours you really like but she's already with this other guy and they seem happy together so you don't bother trying to act on your feelings cuz you feel she won't leave her boyfriend for you (which is sensible)
for some weeks you then notice the guy is not visiting her, you're not a stalker but perhaps you noticed there's a particular time he comes to visit her and his car makes a distinct sound when zooming in and parking, you haven't heard that sound for some weeks so you see the girl jogging and decided to join her, both of you jog for a while and decided to take a short rest before resuming, so you ask after some small talks, "BTW, did George travel? I haven't seen him around for a while" she then says "We broke up"

logically speaking, you'll see this as an opportunity to make her yours now that she's free, you now act on that feeling (with sense, of course) and try to make her yours, your "dream" has a better chance of coming true now more than ever

let's use another analogy, Neymar is arguably the hottest property in world football at the moment cuz he's in the midst of transfer tussle

Neymar has a release clause of €220M, and PSG are apparently ready to pay that, let's say by some chance Neymar frees himself from Barcelona's (his present club) contract and becomes free, shouldn't PSG be even happier to get him now that they don't even need to pay €220M? of course they would cuz a free Neymar is as good as €220M Neymar



why then is it that when it comes to religion in which Christians are supposed to show more love to an ex Muslim who's an atheist, they seem to be more hostile? isn't the Muslim going to hell? isn't this time that he/she is an atheist the best time to draw him closer and attempt to make him see your religion as the true one?

why are Muslims usually more hostile towards ex Christians who are now atheists than they do Christians?

why is it that a Muslim doesn't care if her child has Christian friends and vice versa but would do anything to prevent an atheist from getting close to their child?

why is it that a Christian would rather hire a Muslim than an atheist for a job?

why is it that a Christian would rather help a Muslim in time of need than an atheist?

why is it that a pagan would rather help a Muslim and a Christian than an atheist?

about the "hiring" part, I used to think that maybe they feel an atheist might steal from them without remorse or may even kill them since he doesn't believe in any god but I later realised it doesn't make sense! if a Christian can hire a Muslim knowing that such a Muslim can get a hair up his Arse one day and decide to blow up the establishment of "infidels" to the glory of Allah, how then is such a Muslim different from an atheist? of course no, that doesn't stop him hiring a Muslim, all the bombings he hears of on TV hasn't stopped him, all the Boko Haram killings hasn't stopped him, all the Islamic terrorism he hears of hasn't stopped him, all the beheading he sees circulating hasn't stopped him, he hires the Muslim anyways but the atheist should look elsewhere for jobs

Try to take a babysitting job and tell the Christian parents you're an atheist and they would most likely freak out and hire someone else, tell the Christian parents you're a Muslim and they would most likely give you the job anyways even though there's a chance they'll return and see their "infidel" home in flames, they take the chance anyways


I've always asked myself this question and it always confuses me as there seems to be no logical answer to it, until I reread "The Emperor's New Clothes" by Hans Christian Andersen few days back and the connection was telling

for those who haven't read the story, I'll tell an abridged version of it

a long time ago, a vain emperor who cares about nothing except wearing and displaying clothes hires two weavers who promise him the finest, best suit of clothes from a fabric invisible to anyone who is either unfit for his position or "hopelessly stupid". The emperor's ministers cannot see the clothes themselves, but pretend that they can for fear of appearing unfit for their positions, and the emperor does the same. Finally, the weavers report that the suit is finished, they mime dressing him, and the emperor marches in procession before his subjects. The townsfolk play along with the pretense, not wanting to appear unfit for their positions or stupid.


I'll pause the story right there,

notice that in this hypothetical scenario, the townsfolk would agree that the emperor isn't naked but that's where all the agreement ends

they can never agree on:

what colour the clothe is

what material the cloth is made of

if the cloth has patterned colour or its just plain

which design was sown

whether the cloth long sleeved or short sleeved

whether the trouser is long or short

whether the cloth is tight or loose fitting

and many other questions concerning this "cloth" in question

If Mr Appleby says "he's wearing green silk" and someone else says "no, it's pink taffeta" and another screams "No! its purple Aposhe" that is merely annoying. I mean, they can argue forever without damaging the illusion.

try to imagine after not having a consensus on the cloth they decide to ask Epositive the properties of the said cloth and he goes "I honestly didn't see any cloth on the emperor, I'm not sure but it looks to me like the emperor was actually naked or maybe my eyes were deceiving me but I saw his junk and his potbelly and no! I'm not hopelessly stupid or unworthy"

try to imagine the reaction of those he's talking to, he has threatened the entire illusion and is not afraid to be called hopelessly stupid and unworthy cuz he knows what he saw, they'll shout him down and might even be ready to harm or kill him for daring to insult their dear emperor


that's why Christians are comfortable having Muslims as best friends and vice versa but would try to avoid atheists as much as possible, they can even marry in an interreligious fashion; at least with a Muslim friend you can both argue which one is the true word of god between Koran and Bible, with other religions they can argue about whose rules are correct, which reinforces that the game is worth playing, while atheists by their existence imply the... game... is.... meaningless

Religion wears many veils. Atheists see through all of them and see nothing real behind them. It drives the religious bananas, more than a challenge from a different religion ever will. There is no common ground.

This is the reason there's less love shown to an atheist than a competing religion, atheists are threatening the illusion

everyday you spend being alive is an insult to them as they believe they owe their survival to their imaginary friend

every little success you have in your endeavour is a massive blow to them, you're achieving these things without what they deem most essential (god)

every property you acquire is an insult to them and their god cuz you're acquiring these things without any god

everyday you spend not battling an illness feels painful to them

that explains why they would deny you that job and pass it on to a rival/competing religion instead, why they'd rather demote you or even fire you, why they'll rather watch you suffer in life cuz every health problem, every financial problem, every relationship problem you are going through, every huge challenge you face and its weighing on you is a sign to them that their god is realNo! its purple Aposhe

spartan117:
Ur entire analogy is built upon the premise that most Christians would u Identify with Muslims rather than pagans

spartan117:
Ur entire analogy is built upon the premise that most Christians would u Identify with Muslims rather than pagans

CuteMadridista:
we know you are

you have just 3 posts and they are all "Crap" lol

CuteMadridista:
please, this post isn't clear enough, sounds broken somewhere maybe typography

spartan117:
Ur entire analogy is built upon the premise that most Christians would Identify with Muslims rather than pagans and this is not true given that all Christians have been given the ministry of reconciliation so we don't discriminate btw Muslims and athiests we see them all as un-believers who need Jesus in their lives,that is the primary passion that drives us to evangelism and missionary work.
Don't ever think that we see atheists as a threat ,we rather regard them with pity and compassion because we see them as people who the God of this world(the devil) have blinded their eyes so that they may not see the truth. It is therefore our responsibility as THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD to live an exemplary live that will draw others to Christ so that their souls may be saved.

Always remember this "a live lived without Jesus is vanity upon vanity no matter how much u achieve or how much wealth you make " King Solomon realized this after he strayed away from God and went ahead to marry unbelievers, he ultimately lost his relationship with God which is the most iimportant thing a man needs in this live,and all his wealth became vanity upon vanity.

God bless you.

sirfee:
It is pathetic,some Christians are hypocrites especially the Pentecostan,Jesus/Yeshua asked them to love their neighbour as themselves, he even asked them to pray for their enemies though I don't see myself as an enemy to anyone.On the contrary,most religious folks are tribalists,sexists and nepotists.
They speak from both sides of their mouth.

I don't argue with religious folks anymore because to me it is irrelevant.

GoodMuyis:
A kind of Review or Question

==modified==

There once an emperor, his subject called him Shadows Lord, he commands their loyalties and praise, his palace is always full of extravagant celebration, not for themselves but for visitors and stranger who passed by the Emperors Royal Palace. Both Visitor and stranger that passed by are entitled to be entertained and given a non-transferable Golden Box of gifts but of course you may not like add more to your load hence you are at liberty to reject the box, but you must be entertained.

In this Box there is a Golden Key, A scroll, 9 vials, a Glass Ring and a Purple Rob. To cut the story short (I will update late)...
The Glass ring signifies Identity of Acceptance and the Purple Rob is Identity of Association, that is you Accept and Associate your self with the emperor, and that gives you access to Emperors Royal Palace and his people.


The question I want anyone reading this to answer is,
Could anyone who get entertained at the Emperors Royal Palace but rejected the Golden box have the privilege of associating with Emperors kinsmen?

==modified 28/07/17==
OP listen to this
You cant ridicule and insult the culture of the Chinese and expect them to show you love.
You ridicule Chinese food, yet you wanted a Chinese wife, what do you expect her to cook for?
You rejected Chinese language, yet you want a job in Chinese Coy, how will function among chinese speakers
The list can go on...

If we are to judge by atheists rule of self define MORAL CODE. they were so right to determine what is good for them and thereby rejecting you, at least they are happy with such decision.

If you start believing on Jesus today, what you highlight up there will change and you will feel real LOVE more than what you highlight up there

===

Story by Prince goodmuyis (the nobo-prince)

CC: Analice107

CuteMadridista:
, except Jehovah's witnesses who I simply tell that I'm a Jew or I'm excommunicated and they usually leave very fast

spartan117:
Ur entire analogy is built upon the premise that most Christians would Identify with Muslims rather than pagans and this is not true given that all Christians have been given the ministry of reconciliation so we don't discriminate btw Muslims and athiests we see them all as un-believers who need Jesus in their lives,that is the primary passion that drives us to evangelism and missionary work.
Don't ever think that we see atheists as a threat ,we rather regard them with pity and compassion because we see them as people who the God of this world(the devil) have blinded their eyes so that they may not see the truth. It is therefore our responsibility as THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD to live an exemplary live that will draw others to Christ so that their souls may be saved.

Always remember this "a live lived without Jesus is vanity upon vanity no matter how much u achieve or how much wealth you make " King Solomon realized this after he strayed away from God and went ahead to marry unbelievers, he ultimately lost his relationship with God which is the most iimportant thing a man needs in this live,and all his wealth became vanity upon vanity.

God bless you.