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The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 9:11am On Mar 10, 2017
Since the first day I began engaging in the arguments for the existence of God, never have I seen any person(s) display such a cowardly and hypocritical request like that of the theists here on NL which I find highly disgraceful.

It is the shameful attempt by christians and other religious persons to switch the burden of proof to those who from the onset have declared their lack of believe in the existence of their God(s) on the basis of lack of evidence.

This dishonesty have come to be the last resort for rendering meaningful discussions and intelligently progressing arguments useless.

My stance as an atheist have been further strengthened and arguments have become distasteful.

"I lack believe in Yahweh or any other god's existence owing to the absence of proofs"

But before you theists demand for a proof for the inexistence of Yahweh/Orunmila... it is important to clarify the atheistic position.

Atheist simply lack the belief in the existence of God(s)!

Perhaps, the above notion have been misinterpreted to mean the believe in the inexistence of God, that is wrong.

Can I say you believe in the inexistence of SantaClaus, Peter Pan, Ojuju-Calabar, Mamiwater, Bigfoot, Tooth Fairies, Dragons, Vampires etc? No. Because it would mean that you've had evidences to show it exists but chose to believe otherwise. This isn't the case.

I implore you to provide evidences for the existence of the God you believe in. The burden is on you who dedicate so much time to an "idea", not the other way round.

If you can't, it's fine. I will accept that you have chosen to believe even in the absence of proofs.

No one can judge you for believing in anything. But don't present it to us as if they are proven facts. And don't expect us to prove the inexistence of something held unto by mere belief.

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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 10:15am On Mar 10, 2017
Good!
You mean absence of proofs or absence of insufficient proofs?
Pls now you at least be sincere and unbiased so you aint accused of what you have accused theists of.
Anyway, know im no theist but a Jesus Follower!
So answer my question.
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by akintom(m): 10:22am On Mar 10, 2017
They are all bunch of dishonest and unintelligent cowards.

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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 10:43am On Mar 10, 2017
Atheism only means sheer antagonism of the Christian God..It bares itself in anger, rage and insults.
I have said you only waste your emotion in futility trying to do this cos we are not deterred and God isnt moved either.
I dont move nor fidget when you tell me Im not who I am..I only laugh you to scorn!
My assertion is 'you dont believe someone exists, sulk it save you are hiding something and an hypocrite'
Atheism gives no hope for the present nor the future! Gbam!!

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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by luvmijeje(f): 10:59am On Mar 10, 2017
It is the shameful attempt by christians and other religious persons to switch the burden of proof to those who from the onset have declared their lack of believe in the existence of their God(s) on the basis of lack of evidence.

Hehehe. .. ... what's good for the goose is also good for the gander.
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 11:09am On Mar 10, 2017
luvmijeje:


Hehehe. .. ... what's good for the goose is also good for the gander.
And there you go again.
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 11:11am On Mar 10, 2017
enshy:
Atheism only means sheer antagonism of the Christian God..[/b]It bares itself in anger, rage and insults.
You still don't understand what atheism is.
Smh

I have said you only waste your emotion in futility trying to do this cos we are not deterred and God isnt moved either.
You're wrong my efforts are not futile. More people have read these conversations and re-examined their faith.
Your unintelligent responses have indicated your lack of sincerity. Thus, many are still being Freed From the shackles of unrealistic religious-teachings.


I dont move nor fidget when you tell me Im not who I am..I only laugh you to scorn!
My assertion is 'you dont believe someone exists, sulk it save you are hiding something and an hypocrite'
[b]Atheism gives no hope for the present nor the future! Gbam!!
@bolded, I see you've considered it. But the fear of the inevitable(death) has kept you playing to the tunes of religious dogmas.

Well, grow up. Our lives are short, enjoy it while it lasts.

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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 11:14am On Mar 10, 2017
enshy:
Good!
You mean absence of proofs or absence of insufficient proofs?
Pls now you at least be sincere and unbiased so you aint accused of what you have accused theists of.
Anyway, know im no theist but a Jesus Follower!
So answer my question.
No proofs.

Lack of proofs.

Absence of proofs.

Choose anyone.
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 11:19am On Mar 10, 2017
ScepticalPyrrho:
You still don't understand what atheism is.
Smh
Nonsense!
Atheism as is the case of drunkeness, hopelessness and shame is only best described, read about and not experienced!
Atheism is only an hypothesis for the fools to grope over! Its only fit for the thrash can!!
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 11:26am On Mar 10, 2017
enshy:

Nonsense!
Atheism as is the case of drunkeness, hopelessness and shame is only best described, read about and not experienced!
Atheism is only an hypothesis for the fools to grope over! Its only fit for the thrash can!!
All this rage...

Because you're scared of dying.

Look around you, everything dies off.

What hope do other animals have?
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 11:39am On Mar 10, 2017
ScepticalPyrrho:
You still don't understand what atheism is.
Smh

You're wrong my efforts are not futile. More people have read these conversations and re-examined their faith.
Your unintelligent responses have indicated your lack of sincerity. Thus, many are still being Freed From the shackles of unrealistic religious-teachings.
@bolded, I see you've considered it. But the fear of the inevitable(death) has kept you playing to the tunes of religious dogmas.

Well, grow up. Our lives are short, enjoy it while it lasts.
Your life may be short so enjoy it.
Just like the fear of 'sinners in the hands of an angry God' makes you opt for a way of escape in atheism..No hiding place for you will all be judged by that God!
You say you are intelligent and dont know anything about end of life...Your mentors died telling you nothing about it.
Please dont patronize your readers! Tell us about atheism and not xtianity...Your intelligence profers neither solutions or answers, it thrives only in criticisms. Speak of atheism, lets hear you.
How wise you think you are?
Atheism is empty, no content in it only criticisms from pervert souls who have failed God!

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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 11:42am On Mar 10, 2017
ScepticalPyrrho:
All this rage...

Because you're scared of dying.

Look around you, everything dies off.

What hope do other animals have?
You just goofed!
So atheists are only comparable to animals, its well said!
Your hope at death is that of an animal! No wonder your vision, thinking is as an animal indeed.
Your folly is on a GP!!

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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 11:46am On Mar 10, 2017
enshy:

Your life may be short so enjoy it.
Just like the fear of 'sinners in the hands of an angry God' makes you opt for a way of escape in atheism..No hiding place for you will all be judged by that God!
You say you are intelligent and dont know anything about end of life...Your mentors died telling you nothing about it.
Please dont patronize your readers! Tell us about atheism and not xtianity...Your intelligence profers neither solutions or answers, it thrives only in criticisms. Speak of atheism, lets hear you.
How wise you think you are?
Atheism is empty, no content in it only criticisms from pervert souls who have failed God!

So, we can have a truce here.

You lack the ability to substantiate your beliefs with evidence.

I am saying it as it is.

If that makes me an atheist. I'm cool with that. But I will never live in delusions of grandeur like you.

Sweat it, repeat it over and over again in ur head. It doesn't make it real, until it is real.
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 11:49am On Mar 10, 2017
enshy:

You just goofed!
So atheists are only comparable to animals, its well said!
Your hope at death is that of an animal! No wonder your vision, thinking is as an animal indeed.
Your folly is on a GP!!
Welcome to reality.

Even with all your visions, I see no proof of Yahweh's existence.

Now, back to where we started off.

Where is your God?
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Richirich713: 11:51am On Mar 10, 2017
So if a theist asked u if God exists, what would your answer be? Yes, No or I don't know
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 11:53am On Mar 10, 2017
Richirich713:
So if a theist asked u if God exists, what would your answer be? Yes, No or I don't know
Is this question directed at me?
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Richirich713: 11:57am On Mar 10, 2017
ScepticalPyrrho:
Is this question directed at me?

@ atheists, but since u the op u can answer
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 11:57am On Mar 10, 2017
ScepticalPyrrho:
So, we can have a truce here.

You lack the ability to substantiate your beliefs with evidence.

I am saying it as it is.

If that makes me an atheist. I'm cool with that. But I will never live in delusions of grandeur like you.

Sweat it, repeat it over and over again in ur head. It doesn't make it real, until it is real.
Leave criticisms, talk about atheism!
Tell us your hope in it, your research that led to your conclusion.
Dont forget you have likened the hope of atheists to that of an animal!
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 12:03pm On Mar 10, 2017
ScepticalPyrrho:
Welcome to reality.

Even with all your visions, I see no proof of Yahweh's existence.

Now, back to where we started off.

Where is your God?
My God is eternal!
He has given hope in present life/eternity to humans not animals.
He is God to humans and not animals (save creation).
Since you say God doesnt exist and your hope is the animals hope, tell us about atheism now!!!
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 12:08pm On Mar 10, 2017
enshy:

Leave criticisms, talk about atheism!
I already told you what atheism means.
atheism is the lack of belief in God or gods.

Atheism is not a belief system or an organized religious doctrine.

there are numerous variations of atheistical disposition.

Atheists may disagree on certain issues.


Tell us your hope in it, your research that led to your conclusion.
Dont forget you have likened the hope of atheists to that of an animal!
You know what, you aren't prepared yet.

Let's stay with the topic.
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 12:17pm On Mar 10, 2017
enshy:

My God is eternal!
He has given hope in present life/eternity to humans not animals.
He is God to humans and not animals (save creation).
What makes you believe all these?

Since you say God doesnt exist and your hope is the animals hope, tell us about atheism now!!!
I don't need to tell you what atheism is. Stop being an hypocrite.
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 1:09pm On Mar 10, 2017
ScepticalPyrrho:
I already told you what atheism means.
atheism is the lack of belief in God or gods.

Atheism is not a belief system or an organized religious doctrine.

there are numerous variations of atheistical disposition.

Atheists may disagree on certain issues.

You know what, you aren't prepared yet.

Let's stay with the topic.
Is that all there is to atheism - lack of belief in God?
Atheism then has no content.
Xtianity is loaded with proofs of Gods existence, omnipotence, omnipresence, omniscience...He is evident in workings in my life as I live based on scriptural principles. I have tasted Jesus and he is just so sweet.
One of you on NL this week admitted that creation is the work of an Almighty who he proposed is Wicked!
God not only exists, He is evident!!!!
I can do you an 100 paged book on God but you can do simple sentences of criticisms of God...You have no conviction, no history, no proofs aside criticisms, no morals. Atheism is purely empty!
I call you today before all that Atheism is empty and hopeless, if not, prove it with accurate details and historical evidences without mentioning other religions.
Base your assertions on atheism cos it seems atheism cant even stand alone without God!

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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 1:17pm On Mar 10, 2017
ScepticalPyrrho:
What makes you believe all these? I don't need to tell you what atheism is. Stop being an hypocrite.
What makes me believe God is eternal? He is the beginning of creation and end of life! He lives and exists forever!! I live by absolute Faith in God, what He says I do.
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:35pm On Mar 10, 2017
ScepticalPyrrho:


Since the first day I began engaging in the arguments for the existence of God, never have I seen any person(s) display such a cowardly and hypocritical request like that of the theists here on NL which I find highly disgraceful.

It is the shameful attempt by christians and other religious persons to switch the burden of proof to those who from the onset have declared their lack of believe in the existence of their God(s) on the basis of lack of evidence.

This dishonesty have come to be the last resort for rendering meaningful discussions and intelligently progressing arguments useless.

My stance as an atheist have been further strengthened and arguments have become distasteful.

"I lack believe in Yahweh or any other god's existence owing to the absence of proofs"

But before you theists demand for a proof for the inexistence of Yahweh/Orunmila... it is important to clarify the atheistic position.

Atheist simply lack the belief in the existence of God(s)!

Perhaps, the above notion have been misinterpreted to mean the believe in the inexistence of God, that is wrong.

Can I say you believe in the inexistence of SantaClaus, Peter Pan, Ojuju-Calabar, Mamiwater, Bigfoot, Tooth Fairies, Dragons, Vampires etc? No. Because it would mean that you've had evidences to show it exists but chose to believe otherwise. This isn't the case.

I implore you to provide evidences for the existence of the God you believe in. The burden is on you who dedicate so much time to an "idea", not the other way round.


If you can't, it's fine. I will accept that you have chosen to believe even in the absence of proofs.

No one can judge you for believing in anything. But don't present it to us as if they are proven facts. And don't expect us to prove the inexistence of something held unto by mere belief.

The evidence of God is all around you. When I look at a building, how do I know that there was a builder? I can't see him, hear him, touch, smell or taste him. The evidence of a builder is the building I'm looking at. In other words, the building is the proof positive that there was a builder. The building is the product of the intelligence of the builder. Living things are also evidence of design. Wouldn't it be logical to assume that if man's highly intelligent brain designed the computer, then the human brain was also the product of design? There is your evidence. cool
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 1:40pm On Mar 10, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


The evidence of God is all around you. When I look at a building, how do I know that there was a builder? I can't see him, hear him, touch, smell or taste him. The evidence of a builder is the building I'm looking at. In other words, the building is the proof positive that there was a builder. The building is the product of the intelligence of the builder. Living things are also evidence of design. Wouldn't it be logical to assume that if man's highly intelligent brain designed the computer, then the human brain was also the product of design? There is your evidence. cool

On point bro in Christ!
You cant labour in vain.
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by jonbellion(m): 1:50pm On Mar 10, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


The evidence of God is all around you. When I look at a building, how do I know that there was a builder? I can't see him, hear him, touch, smell or taste him. The evidence of a builder is the building I'm looking at. In other words, the building is the proof positive that there was a builder. The building is the product of the intelligence of the builder. Living things are also evidence of design. Wouldn't it be logical to assume that if man's highly intelligent brain designed the computer, then the human brain was also the product of design? There is your evidence. cool

that's great but this does not PROVE the Abrahamic god
This is what we've been asking since

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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 1:56pm On Mar 10, 2017
jonbellion:
that's great but this does not PROVE the Abrahamic god
This is what we've been asking since
I tire for this guys.
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 2:01pm On Mar 10, 2017
Richirich713:


@ atheists, but since u the op u can answer
Alright.
Richirich713:
So if a theist asked u if God exists, what would your answer be? Yes, No or I don't know
I'll say WE DONT KNOW.

You, I, and every person don't know anything about any God. Not a even a pinch bit.

Nothing!

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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 2:05pm On Mar 10, 2017
enshy:

What makes me believe God is eternal?
He is the beginning of creation and end of life!
He lives and exists forever!!
I live by absolute Faith in God, what He says I do.
Who told you this crap?
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 2:07pm On Mar 10, 2017
enshy:

Is that all there is to atheism - lack of belief in God?
Atheism then has no content.
Xtianity is loaded with proofs of Gods existence, omnipotence, omnipresence, omniscience...He is evident in workings in my life as I live based on scriptural principles. I have tasted Jesus and he is just so sweet.
One of you on NL this week admitted that creation is the work of an Almighty who he proposed is Wicked!
God not only exists, He is evident!!!!
I can do you an 100 paged book on God but you can do simple sentences of criticisms of God...You have no conviction, no history, no proofs aside criticisms, no morals. Atheism is purely empty!
I call you today before all that Atheism is empty and hopeless, if not, prove it with accurate details and historical evidences without mentioning other religions.
Base your assertions on atheism cos it seems atheism cant even stand alone without God!
You can describe atheism anyway it suits your belief.

The burden of proof still lies on you.
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Richirich713: 2:18pm On Mar 10, 2017
ScepticalPyrrho:
Alright.

I'll say WE DONT KNOW.

You, I, and every person don't know anything about any God. Not a even a pinch bit.

Nothing!

How do u know that other people don't know anything about God? Where you getting this knowledge?
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 2:33pm On Mar 10, 2017
Richirich713:


How do u know that other people don't know anything about God? Where you getting this knowledge?



Aside from all the numerous threads that has failed to prove God's existence, or the inability to present a coherent argument to show how there is necessarily creator and how it so happens to be Allah or Yahweh by theists....

The word "know" or knowledge indicates acquaintance, contact, being real, fact, perceptible, certainty etc.

No one has ever any justification to claim to KNOW God.

People who claim to know God are over stepping.

You can only claim claim believe, because there there are no evidences to backup such wild claims.

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