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emmanuelex1:
Trust you guys lack manners, you just go online and insult people over what you do not even understand. I wonder how you intend to win souls for God with the way you insult people. Well I pray God help you know exactly what you are doing. Please do not mention me save it.

Babacele:
but your pastors ,mortals, can intercede or pray for you, but ever living holy persons in heavens can't pray for us poor sinners ? What hypocrisy!

Babacele:
God talks to all manner of persons irrespective of creeds ,tongue and place in everyday and everyway : through holy writings, prophets,or directly. He is a universal love that cannot be appropriated by any group whose existence is so recent and has benefited from the synthetic evolution of different cultures and efforts in man's movement towards God. Right now, God is deliberately sending babies to be born in different homes with different tongues,color and creed.

blackbriar:
you are mis-quoting urself.......first u said original sin was not passed to jesus then u say i dont believe,then u call me a liar...pls read ur post again...and be more clear with ur post

blackbriar:
funny...i dont see the term RCC in any of those quotes.
#and rcc is derogatory term used by protestants on the church

blackbriar:
pls wats funny?

Babacele:
We believe in one God Almighty and pray to Him alone directly ,through our clergy and congregation or through the holy people in heaven .

Babacele:
in your futile efforts at destroying Christianity's 2000years + history , seemed you forgot you uttered these words below not long ago?



y brocab: 10:59am
Jesus said pray for one another.
{James 5:15-16} And the prayer
offered in faith will restore the
sick. The Lord will raise him up, if
he had sinned, he will be forgiven.
Therefore confess your sins to
each other, and pray for each
other, so that you may be healed,
the prayer of a righteous man has
great power to prevail..

emmanuelex1:
Please save some money and visit the Vatican to correct what you called lies. Stop mentioning me again, I chose to stop disusing with you guys
because of your insults. I gave gave you the explanation you wanted then, now you bring up another. Please save some money and visit the Vatican to correct what you called lies. I am busy.

blackbriar:
Lord, have mercy on us.
CHRIST, have mercy on us.
LORD, have mercy on us.
CHRIST, hear us.
CHRIST, graciously hear us.
GOD, THE FATHER OF HEAVEN, have mercy on us.
GOD THE SON, REDEEMER OF THE WORLD, have mercy on us.
GOD THE HOLY GHOST, have mercy on us.
HOLY TRINITY, ONE GOD, have mercy on us.
HOLY MARY, pray for us.
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD, pray for us.
HOLY VIRGIN OF VIRGINS, pray for us.
ST. MICHAEL, pray for us.
ST. GABRIEL, pray for us.
ST. RAPHAEL, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY ANGELS AND ARCHANGELS, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY ORDERS OF BLESSED SPIRITS, pray for us.
ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST, pray for us. ST. JOSEPH, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY PATRIARCHS AND PROPHETS, pray for us.
ST. PETER, pray for us.
ST. PAUL, pray for us.
ST. ANDREW, pray for us.
ST. JAMES, pray for us.
ST. JOHN, pray for us.
ST. THOMAS, pray for us.
ST. JAMES, pray for us.
ST. PHILIP, pray for us.
ST. BARTHOLOMEW, pray for us.
ST. MATTHEW, pray for us.
ST. SIMON, pray for us.
ST. THADDEUS, pray for us.
ST. BARNABAS, pray for us.
ST. LUKE, pray for us.
ST. MARK, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY APOSTLES AND EVANGELIST, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY DISCIPLES OF OUR LORD, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY INNOCENTS, pray for us.
ST. STEPHEN, pray for us.
ST. LAWRENCE, pray for us.
ST. VINCENT, pray for us.
SS. FABIAN AND SEBASTIAN, pray for us.
SS. JOHN AND PAUL, pray for us.
SS. COSMOS AND DAMIAN, pray for us.
SS. GERVASE AND PROTASE, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY MARTYRS, pray for us.
ST. SYLVESTER, pray for us.
ST. GREGORY, pray for us.
ST. AMBROSE, pray for us.
ST. AUGUSTINE, pray for us.
ST. JEROME, pray for us.
ST. MARTIN, pray for us.
ST. NICHOLAS, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY BISHOPS AND CONFESSORS, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY DOCTORS, pray for us.
ST. ANTHONY, pray for us.
ST. BENEDICT, pray for us.
ST. BERNARD, pray for us.
ST. DOMINIC, pray for us.
ST. FRANCIS, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY PRIEST AND LEVITES, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY MONKS AND HERMITS, pray for us.
ST. MARY MAGDALEN, pray for us.
ST. AGATHA, pray for us.
ST. LUCY, pray for us.
ST. AGNES, pray for us.
ST. CECILIA, pray for us.
ST. CATHERINE, pray for us.
ST. ANASTASIA, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY VIRGINS AND WIDOWS, pray for us.
ALL YE MEN AND WOMEN, SAINTS OF GOD, make intercession for us.
BE MERCIFUL, spare us, O Lord!
BE MERCIFUL, graciously hear us, O Lord!
FROM ALL EVIL, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM ALL SIN, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM THY WRATH, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM A SUDDEN AND UNPROVIDED DEATH, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM THE DECEITS OF THE DEVIL, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM ANGER, HATRED, AND ALL ILL WILL, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM THE SPIRIT OF FORNICATION, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM LIGHTNING AND TEMPEST, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM THE SCOURGE OF EARTHQUAKE, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM PESTILENCE, FAMINE, AND WAR, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM EVERLASTING DEATH, O Lord, deliver us.
THROUGH THE MYSTERY OF THY HOLY INCARNATION, O Lord, Deliver us.
THROUGH THY COMING, O Lord, deliver us.
THROUGH THY NATIVITY, O Lord, deliver us.
THROUGH THY BAPTISM AND HOLY FASTING, O Lord, deliver us.
THROUGH THY CROSS AND PASSION, O Lord, deliver us.
THROUGH THY DEATH AND BURIAL, O Lord, deliver us.
THROUGH THY HOLY RESURRECTION, O Lord, deliver us.
THROUGH THINE ADMIRABLE ASCENSION, O Lord, deliver us.
THROUGH THE COMING OF THE HOLY GHOST, THE PARACLETE, O Lord, deliver us.
IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT, We Sinners beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST SPARE US, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST PARDON US, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO BRING US TO TRUE PENANCE, We Beseech Thee hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO GOVERN AND PRESERVE THY HOLY CHURCH.... We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO PRESERVE OUR APOSTOLIC PRELATE AND ALL ECCLESIASTICAL ORDERS IN HOLY RELIGION. We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO HUMBLE THE ENEMIES OF THY HOLY CHURCH, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCH SAFE TO GIVE PEACE AND TRUE CONCORD TO CHRISTIAN KINGS AND PRINCES, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO GRANT PEACE AND UNITY TO ALL CHRISTIAN PEOPLE, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO BRING BACK TO THE UNITY OF THE CHURCH ALL THOSE WHO HAVE STRAYED AWAY, AND LEAD TO THE LIGHT OF THE GOSPEL ALL UNBELIEVERS, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO CONFIRM AND PRESERVE US THY HOLY SERVICE, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST LIFT UP OUR MINDS TO HEAVENLY DESIRES, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST RENDER ETERNAL BLESSINGS TO ALL OUR BENEFACTORS, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST DELIVER OUR SOULS AND THOSE OF OUR BRETHREN, RELATIVE, AND BENEFACTORS FROM ETERNAL DAMNATION, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO GIVE AND PRESERVE THE FRUITS OF THE EARTH, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO GIVE ETERNAL REST TO ALL THE FAITHFUL DEPARTED, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE GRACIOUSLY TO HEAR US, We beseech Thee, hear us.

SON OF GOD, We beseech Thee, hear us.
LAMB OF GOD, WHO TAKEST AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD, Spare us, O Lord.
LAMB OF GOD, WHO TAKEST AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD, Graciously hear us, O Lord.
LAMB OF GOD, WHO TAKEST AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD, Have mercy on us.
CHRIST, HEAR US.......
CHRIST, GRACIOUSLY HEAR US.......
LORD, HAVE MERCY ON US.......
CHRIST, HAVE MERCY ON US.......
LORD, HAVE MERCY ON US.......

Our Father, etc, (In Secret.)
V- And Lead Us Not Into Temptation.
R- But Deliver Us From Evil.

Psalm LXIX

Incline unto my aid, O God.
O Lord, make haste to help me.
Let them be confounded and ashamed that seek my soul.
Let them be turned backward and blush for shame that desire evils to me.
Let them be presently turned away blushing for shame that say to me, "Tis well, 'tis well."
Let all that seek Thee rejoice and be glad in Thee; and let such as love Thy salvation say always, The Lord be magnified. But I am needy and poor: O God, help me.
Thou art my helper and my deliverer; O Lord, make no delay.

Glory Be To The Father, etc.

Ubenedictus:
i hope you know this is rubbish.

blackbriar:
Lord, have mercy on us.
CHRIST, have mercy on us.
LORD, have mercy on us.
CHRIST, hear us.
CHRIST, graciously hear us.
GOD, THE FATHER OF HEAVEN, have mercy on us.
GOD THE SON, REDEEMER OF THE WORLD, have mercy on us.
GOD THE HOLY GHOST, have mercy on us.
HOLY TRINITY, ONE GOD, have mercy on us.
HOLY MARY, pray for us.
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD, pray for us.
HOLY VIRGIN OF VIRGINS, pray for us.
ST. MICHAEL, pray for us.
ST. GABRIEL, pray for us.
ST. RAPHAEL, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY ANGELS AND ARCHANGELS, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY ORDERS OF BLESSED SPIRITS, pray for us.
ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST, pray for us. ST. JOSEPH, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY PATRIARCHS AND PROPHETS, pray for us.
ST. PETER, pray for us.
ST. PAUL, pray for us.
ST. ANDREW, pray for us.
ST. JAMES, pray for us.
ST. JOHN, pray for us.
ST. THOMAS, pray for us.
ST. JAMES, pray for us.
ST. PHILIP, pray for us.
ST. BARTHOLOMEW, pray for us.
ST. MATTHEW, pray for us.
ST. SIMON, pray for us.
ST. THADDEUS, pray for us.
ST. BARNABAS, pray for us.
ST. LUKE, pray for us.
ST. MARK, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY APOSTLES AND EVANGELIST, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY DISCIPLES OF OUR LORD, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY INNOCENTS, pray for us.
ST. STEPHEN, pray for us.
ST. LAWRENCE, pray for us.
ST. VINCENT, pray for us.
SS. FABIAN AND SEBASTIAN, pray for us.
SS. JOHN AND PAUL, pray for us.
SS. COSMOS AND DAMIAN, pray for us.
SS. GERVASE AND PROTASE, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY MARTYRS, pray for us.
ST. SYLVESTER, pray for us.
ST. GREGORY, pray for us.
ST. AMBROSE, pray for us.
ST. AUGUSTINE, pray for us.
ST. JEROME, pray for us.
ST. MARTIN, pray for us.
ST. NICHOLAS, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY BISHOPS AND CONFESSORS, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY DOCTORS, pray for us.
ST. ANTHONY, pray for us.
ST. BENEDICT, pray for us.
ST. BERNARD, pray for us.
ST. DOMINIC, pray for us.
ST. FRANCIS, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY PRIEST AND LEVITES, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY MONKS AND HERMITS, pray for us.
ST. MARY MAGDALEN, pray for us.
ST. AGATHA, pray for us.
ST. LUCY, pray for us.
ST. AGNES, pray for us.
ST. CECILIA, pray for us.
ST. CATHERINE, pray for us.
ST. ANASTASIA, pray for us.
ALL YE HOLY VIRGINS AND WIDOWS, pray for us.
ALL YE MEN AND WOMEN, SAINTS OF GOD, make intercession for us.
BE MERCIFUL, spare us, O Lord!
BE MERCIFUL, graciously hear us, O Lord!
FROM ALL EVIL, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM ALL SIN, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM THY WRATH, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM A SUDDEN AND UNPROVIDED DEATH, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM THE DECEITS OF THE DEVIL, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM ANGER, HATRED, AND ALL ILL WILL, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM THE SPIRIT OF FORNICATION, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM LIGHTNING AND TEMPEST, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM THE SCOURGE OF EARTHQUAKE, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM PESTILENCE, FAMINE, AND WAR, O Lord, deliver us.
FROM EVERLASTING DEATH, O Lord, deliver us.
THROUGH THE MYSTERY OF THY HOLY INCARNATION, O Lord, Deliver us.
THROUGH THY COMING, O Lord, deliver us.
THROUGH THY NATIVITY, O Lord, deliver us.
THROUGH THY BAPTISM AND HOLY FASTING, O Lord, deliver us.
THROUGH THY CROSS AND PASSION, O Lord, deliver us.
THROUGH THY DEATH AND BURIAL, O Lord, deliver us.
THROUGH THY HOLY RESURRECTION, O Lord, deliver us.
THROUGH THINE ADMIRABLE ASCENSION, O Lord, deliver us.
THROUGH THE COMING OF THE HOLY GHOST, THE PARACLETE, O Lord, deliver us.
IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT, We Sinners beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST SPARE US, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST PARDON US, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO BRING US TO TRUE PENANCE, We Beseech Thee hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO GOVERN AND PRESERVE THY HOLY CHURCH.... We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO PRESERVE OUR APOSTOLIC PRELATE AND ALL ECCLESIASTICAL ORDERS IN HOLY RELIGION. We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO HUMBLE THE ENEMIES OF THY HOLY CHURCH, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCH SAFE TO GIVE PEACE AND TRUE CONCORD TO CHRISTIAN KINGS AND PRINCES, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO GRANT PEACE AND UNITY TO ALL CHRISTIAN PEOPLE, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO BRING BACK TO THE UNITY OF THE CHURCH ALL THOSE WHO HAVE STRAYED AWAY, AND LEAD TO THE LIGHT OF THE GOSPEL ALL UNBELIEVERS, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO CONFIRM AND PRESERVE US THY HOLY SERVICE, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST LIFT UP OUR MINDS TO HEAVENLY DESIRES, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST RENDER ETERNAL BLESSINGS TO ALL OUR BENEFACTORS, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST DELIVER OUR SOULS AND THOSE OF OUR BRETHREN, RELATIVE, AND BENEFACTORS FROM ETERNAL DAMNATION, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO GIVE AND PRESERVE THE FRUITS OF THE EARTH, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE TO GIVE ETERNAL REST TO ALL THE FAITHFUL DEPARTED, We beseech Thee, hear us.
THAT THOU WOULDST VOUCHSAFE GRACIOUSLY TO HEAR US, We beseech Thee, hear us.

SON OF GOD, We beseech Thee, hear us.
LAMB OF GOD, WHO TAKEST AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD, Spare us, O Lord.
LAMB OF GOD, WHO TAKEST AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD, Graciously hear us, O Lord.
LAMB OF GOD, WHO TAKEST AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD, Have mercy on us.
CHRIST, HEAR US.......
CHRIST, GRACIOUSLY HEAR US.......
LORD, HAVE MERCY ON US.......
CHRIST, HAVE MERCY ON US.......
LORD, HAVE MERCY ON US.......

Our Father, etc, (In Secret.)
V- And Lead Us Not Into Temptation.
R- But Deliver Us From Evil.

Psalm LXIX

Incline unto my aid, O God.
O Lord, make haste to help me.
Let them be confounded and ashamed that seek my soul.
Let them be turned backward and blush for shame that desire evils to me.
Let them be presently turned away blushing for shame that say to me, "Tis well, 'tis well."
Let all that seek Thee rejoice and be glad in Thee; and let such as love Thy salvation say always, The Lord be magnified. But I am needy and poor: O God, help me.
Thou art my helper and my deliverer; O Lord, make no delay.

Glory Be To The Father, etc.

Babacele:
We believe in one God Almighty and pray to Him alone directly ,through our clergy and congregation or through the holy people in heaven .

in your futile efforts at destroying Christianity's 2000years + history , seemed you forgot you uttered these words below not long ago?



y brocab: 10:59am
Jesus said pray for one another.
{James 5:15-16} And the prayer
offered in faith will restore the
sick. The Lord will raise him up, if
he had sinned, he will be forgiven.
Therefore confess your sins to
each other, and pray for each
other, so that you may be healed,
the prayer of a righteous man has
great power to prevail..

brocab:
Explain why do we need money-to see another Christian? Isn't the Vatican free-for all man kind?
It's always the same-with you Catholic's-you don't mind given it out-but when the heat comes back-you ran away.
It's always the same 'old story-you expect people to believe in your Gospel-but you can't show the evidence in bible history, that your doctrine really exist.
You claim to know the bible-but your doctrine isn't found in any of the scriptures, and your information about Praying "to" Mary, or praying "through" Mary-isn't seen in any of the other books the Church had taken out of the bible..
From the stone age-we now have everything written down on paper-from a signature to a camera-everything these day's have to be proven, given in evidence, before people believe it's true.
We have been kindly asking each of you-if you can prove some evidence' your doctrine is true and correct?
And please leave your abuse, outside the door.

Ubenedictus:
You wont read the correct document but you are happy to quote him out of context.

That is bias, sorry.

According to Roman Catholicism: "Mary sits on the right hand of the majesty on high" (Pope Pius X, Ad Diem Illum Laetissimum, 14).

Ubenedictus:
why not read what the catholic Church teach from the catholic Church? Is it with to read about toyota cars from innoson?

johnw74:
because the rcc has many unbibical lies in it's teachings

emmanuelex1:
Sorry you can trek to vatican

johnw74:
nothing is out of context, carm org quote:




14. We are then, it will be seen, very far from attributing to the Mother of God a productive power of grace - a power which belongs to God alone. Yet, since Mary carries it over all in holiness and union with Jesus Christ, and has been associated by Jesus Christ in the work of redemption, she merits for us de congruo, in the language of theologians, what Jesus Christ merits for us de condigno, and she is the supreme Minister of the distribution of graces. Jesus "sitteth on the right hand of the majesty on high" (Hebrews i. b.). Mary sitteth at the right hand of her Son - a refuge so secure and a help so trusty against all dangers that we have nothing to fear or to despair of under her guidance, her patronage, her protection. (Pius IX. in Bull Ineffabilis).

roman catholicism has both Jesus and mary sitting on the right hand of the majesty on high
and Hebrews was quoted as reference

hebrews has only Jesus sitting on the right hand of the majesty on high, and not mary

brocab:
Which Church? Since the Catholic Church had separated themselves from the world.

brocab:
Then the history must be wrong-while you Uben are right.

brocab:
"Really" it seems you Catholic's haven't been taught anything about the bible, or any of the verses written in it.
Praying to Mary and other dead saints is not biblical, and praying to anyone other then God is idolatry, nor to bow down to a statue or a painting, and bow down to them, is evil, and it's forbidden in scripture.
When confronting the Catholic's they say, they don't pray to them, but we ask them to pray for us {We all have spoken with Catholic's, and of course they had agreed they pray directly to Mary}
Nowhere in scripture does it say pray to dead saints, Nowhere in scripture does it say ask dead saints to pray for you. Nowhere does it say that people in heaven will pray for people on Earth.
Live Christians on Earth can pray for you, but dead people will not pray to God for you, and we can't find any passages to justify this.
And the question is, why pray to the dead-when you can pray to straight to God?
It's a evil and terrible thing to pray to Mary, but Catholic's seem to worship Mary-more then they do Jesus.
The Lord will not share His Glory with anyone, but the Catholic's will do all what they can do, to justify rebellion, but the truth is Catholicism will continual to put many people on the road to Hell.

The Salve Regina {hail Holy Queen} is Blaspheme.
[Hail Holy Queen Mother, Mother of Mercy, our life our sweetness and our hope}
To thee do we cry, poor banished Children of Eve; to thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in the valley of tears. Turn then most gracious advocate, thine eye's of mercy towards us, and after this our exile show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus O clement, O loving, O sweet, Virgin Mary!"

Catholic's we have one mediator, and this is Jesus.
{1 Timothy 2:5} There is One God, and one mediator between God and man, the messiah Jesus.
{Hebrews 7:25} Wherefore He is able also to save them, to the uttermost that come unto God by Him, seeing He ever lived to make intersession for them.
{John 14:13-14} And whatsoever you shall ask in My name, that will I do, that the Father maybe glorified in His Son, if you shall ask anything in My name I will do it.

Prayer is worship, "The angel said: "No" worship God, not me, "Peter said: get up.
{Revelation 19:10} hen I bowed down at the angels feet to worship him, but he said: to me, do not worship me, for I am a servant, like you, and your brothers and sisters who have the message about Jesus, Worship God, because the message about Jesus is the Spirit that gives all prophesy.
{Acts 10:25-26} When Peter entered, Cornelius met him, fell at Peters feet and worship him, but Peter helped him up, saying, "stand up" I too am only a human.

Mary idolatry in the Catholic Church.
{2 chronicles 33:15} And he took away the strange god's, and the idol out of the house of the Lord, and all the altars that he had built in the mount of the house of the Lord, and in Jerusalem and cast them out of the city.
{Leviticus 26:1} Ye shall make you no idols nor graven images, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall you set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it, for I am the Lord your God.

The Scripture never ever say's pray to dead people, or ask dead people to pray for you.
{Matthew 6:9} Pray like this-Our Father in Heaven hallowed be thy name.
{Philippians 4:6} Be careful for nothing, but with everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving, let your request known unto God.
{Lamentations 3:40-41} Let us test and examine our ways, and return to the Lord! Let us lift up our hearts and hand to God in Heaven.

Speaking with the dead in scripture is always associated with sorcery.
{Leviticus 20;27} Men and women among you who act as medians or who {Consult the spirits of the dead} Must be put to death by stoning, They are guilty of a capital offence.
{Deuteronomy 18:9-12} When thou art come into the land which the Lord thy God given thee, thou shalt not to do after the abominations of those nations, there shalt be not found among you any one that make his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that use divination, or a observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or an charmer, or an consulter, with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer, For all that who do these thing are an abomination to the Lord: and because of these abominations, thy Lord your God doth drive them out from before thee.

But here are some reminders for you Catholic's, just in case you do turn yourselves fully over to God.
{John 14:6} Jesus said: to him I am the way and the truth, and the life, no-one comes to the Father except through Me.
{1 john 4:1} Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, to see weather they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
{Matthew 6:7} And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases, as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their many words.
When I think about it-it would be pretty scary, to find out-on judgement day-I will end up in Hell-because I had chosen Mary, and all the saints to be my mediator's between man and God, instead of Jesus.

brocab:
Please Uben explain-where is it written in the bible-Mary is sitting on her Sons right side of the throne.

johnw74:
because the rcc has many unbibical lies in it's teachings

brocab:
Do you actually believe the Lord is talking about those already in heaven? Wait I will just wake the dead up-since you believe they are still with us-I may have to ask them which direction they are going-before asking for their prayers.
"No" he is not talking about praying to heavenly saints, they can't hear us, but God can, God said: we must pray to Him in heaven, but on earth we are to pray with each other, and God is in the mist of us who are gathered in His name.
Your doctrine doesn't show any evidence it really exist.

johnw74:
@bold, that is blasphemy praying to all of those people who have died and angels, and then saying saying "Glory Be To The Father"
oh blinded one

it reminds me of the rosary where ten hail mary's are prayed and then one our Father

johnw74:
i know the truth is rubbish to u

johnw74:
u pray to others in Heaven to pray to God for u, and u call that praying to God directly



duh, praying "for people", is diffrent to praying "to people", oh blind one

johnw74:
The Bible contains the only Holy writings, which u rc's reject over false rcc doctrines

Ubenedictus:
visit a priest and ask him these questions .

Thanks